Cut it short
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#41881

Shorter set for short season

He is not without game, but he is not what we need this year. A mid-range shooting point guard with terrible shot selection. Those jacked 3s in crucial moments of the game from a guy who was bought in to get the ball moving and being a level headed point guard were infuriating.

We need support for Sobey's heavy workload, and we require someone who can space the floor and finish when he gets some easy looks. Seems harsh, but if the results are similar against Lisch and Cadee on Saturday it would be good to cut the cord early.

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Nutsy
Last year
21:32 5 Oct 17

Reply #648838

re: Shorter set for short season

Settle down... he's not going to score like randle but he defends and was our best rebounder. I though his passing was solid. He come with a report card of a streaky shooter.
Have a big that can rebound we win.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:49 5 Oct 17

Reply #648839

re: Shorter set for short season

Sorry isn't he a fill in?


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NBL Fan
Last year
21:55 5 Oct 17

Reply #648841

re: Shorter set for short season

But is he better than Ebi Ere?


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Zodiac
Last year
21:59 5 Oct 17

Reply #648842

re: Shorter set for short season

Sobey had more than double the amount of rebounds Shorter had but he had 14p, 5a, 4r, 2s 5-13 fg 0-3 3pts. He'll fit in nicely given time had a dominant game in the Merlion Cup form memory.

The problem tonight was rebounding no Roberts, Hodgson had 6 and DJ 5 boards, to go with 4-12 fg he needs to lift.


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Dome Rat
Last year
22:04 5 Oct 17

Reply #648843

re: Shorter set for short season

36er fans have forgotten what it's like to have a PG run an offence

Shorter is more than capable in the league

Giving up 23 offensive rebounds is the bigger issue


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Big Ads
Last year
22:17 5 Oct 17

Reply #648847

re: Shorter set for short season

Anyone care to share their thoughts on why Deng only played 3 minutes. He racked up 2 quick fouls but was lively with a bucket and a block.

Did he mess up some sets and/or fail to make adjustments on d?

Joey can be brutal on the young bigs so curious if he fell foul of Joey's instructions or just couldn't match up with the physicality of United's bigs.


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John
Last year
22:19 5 Oct 17

Reply #648848

re: Shorter set for short season

It was a strange game. Adelaide had all the running and were playing with hustle and intensity but they lost all of that after half time. Shorter was good in patches. He is in my fantasy side and his shots were pretty ugly at times but most shots that miss are. Rotnei Clarke was ordinary for the 1st month of last year and came good. You have to give someone of his experience a chance.


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GrannyPanties
Last year
22:20 5 Oct 17

Reply #648850

re: Shorter set for short season

Shorter didn't run the offense though . His positioning , tempo , over handling , poor timing and execution in passing all were well below what i would expect for an import PG . His long ball is horrendous and his D patchy and rather loose . He showed a few glimpses but i do not think he lasts long .


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Dome Rat
Last year
22:42 5 Oct 17

Reply #648857

re: Shorter set for short season

You muppets, he lead the team in assists and had one less than Ware with 8 minutes less court time = he didn't run the offence lol you people are funny


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koberulz
Last year
22:43 5 Oct 17

Reply #648858

re: Shorter set for short season

Getting assists isn't the same thing as running an offence.


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Dome Rat
Last year
22:44 5 Oct 17

Reply #648859

re: Shorter set for short season

An assist is a measure of getting people the ball in positions to score, which is what he did


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joshuapending
Last year
22:50 5 Oct 17

Reply #648865

re: Shorter set for short season

Curious if you watched any of the Singapore games? He was pretty darn good in those. He will be fine, considering we were down an import I thought we were pretty decent, got a lot closer than I was expecting pre game.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:05 5 Oct 17

Reply #648868

re: Shorter set for short season

Jeez you Adelaide fans are funny.
A guy puts up 14-4-5 on 0 turnovers, has a +6 on the court and you're calling for his head.


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
23:19 5 Oct 17

Reply #648874

re: Shorter set for short season

Ahhhh give 'im a chance


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Anonymous
Last year
00:29 6 Oct 17

Reply #648880

re: Shorter set for short season

"A guy puts up 14-4-5 on 0 turnovers, has a +6 on the court and you're calling for his head."

Exactly plus 2 steals as well. With those stats he'd be Top 3 all time Cairns Taipans.


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KET
Last year
00:47 6 Oct 17

Reply #648883

re: Shorter set for short season

Our team loses and we're looking for heads, It's the Adelaide way.

I went to the singapore matches - the problem about dominating is you're playing against a bunch of kids save for Frankenstein in the semis. Players who dominate there won't necessarily dominate in Australia especially where you may be a tad slower or less athletic it will show in the NBL opposed to playing Asian sides where you tower over them and are like a physical freight train


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blanketyblanks
Last year
05:14 6 Oct 17

Reply #648891

re: Shorter set for short season

Congrats on a thread designed to pull-down fabric builds a season.
I found a lot of good things from Shorter and Moore.
This head-hunting really is a heap of shit. Be supportive, have constructive criticism but crucial moments come in all shapes and sizes. Perhaps you failed to see other players putting up for 3 in the last few minutes also? Maybe yeah? Where is your criticism on that? Start a thread, have seriously valid points and you get heard. But come up with dribble and ity gets shut down.

If you want Jerome back, help the club by forking out his 300k + salary per year and then let talk.

Its game 1 of 28, and Mr negativity is in the house


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Anonymous
Last year
06:54 6 Oct 17

Reply #648893

re: Shorter set for short season

0-2 possibly by end of round. Not an ideal start what so ever.


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Dome Rat
Last year
07:45 6 Oct 17

Reply #648896

re: Shorter set for short season

300k for Jerome? You only want half a season from
him lol

There is a reason no NBL team picked him up


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koberulz
Last year
07:53 6 Oct 17

Reply #648897

re: Shorter set for short season

0-2 possibly by end of round. Not an ideal start what so ever.
Yeah, if this continues they'll go 0-28. Changes need to be made.


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Isaac
Last year
08:57 6 Oct 17

Reply #648906

re: Shorter set for short season

Losing a big in the lead up is exactly what they couldn't afford to do, especially coming up against a team with a sizeable front court. Left Adelaide with DJ and Hodgson and that's about it. Creek has strength but not size and Drmic has neither playing in the paint.

Their glut is at SG and SF.

Meanwhile, Melbourne have Boone, Majok, Andersen and Wesley. Then guys like Prather and Barlow are strong forwards.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:09 6 Oct 17

Reply #648910

re: Shorter set for short season

Play Hodgson or deng more then, seemed poor coaching.


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Bobby
Last year
09:20 6 Oct 17

Reply #648912

re: Shorter set for short season

Giving up a 13pt lead at home is very disturbing. They lack the big men in the paint. Giving up so many offence rebounds is a joke, and when a guard (Sobey) gets most of the rebounds then that says how the big men are travelling.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:37 6 Oct 17

Reply #648935

re: Shorter set for short season

The offensive rebounds they let Melbourne get cost them the game, cutting Roberts might have just cost them the first game


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Anonymous
Last year
10:50 6 Oct 17

Reply #648939

re: Shorter set for short season

I wonder how many of you were sooking in the first quarter and a half when Adelaide were ramming it down Melbournes throat playing small ball. Vickerman adjusted and went mobile while still playing big and it worked. Joey just didn't counter counter adjust he just kept rolling with Creek at the 5... Stayed quick but got molested on the boards. The 131 zone was pretty good as well but got holstered after half time?


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Pop
Last year
10:58 6 Oct 17

Reply #648941

re: Shorter set for short season

I saw a lot to like last night, including Shorter, but was sadly reminded of several realities, like the fact that Johnson gets more rebounds when he is actually in the front court when the ball hits the ring ... a reality reinforced by the fact that Shorter gets rebounds because he works to get to the boards and moves his feet to position himself.

However, I was confused about why Hodgson, in particular, wasn't on court in the closing couple of minutes when it was obvious the 36ERS were looking to take outside shots. If he was injured, fine. Otherwise I'd suggest it was a coaching failure. I realise they were also looking to pressure, but it seemed to me that in the 'end game' it was lack of rebounding that cost.


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Dave
Last year
13:09 6 Oct 17

Reply #648971

re: Shorter set for short season

Cutting Roberts didn't cost them the first game, he wasn't fit to play anyway.


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Isaac
Last year
14:01 6 Oct 17

Reply #648982

re: Shorter set for short season

According to him he was! ;)


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LoveBroker
Last year
17:18 6 Oct 17

Reply #649035

re: Shorter set for short season

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-36ers-nbl-coach-joey-wright-rejects-import-ronald-roberts-claim-he-was-not-injured-when-released/news-story/17ec5b9c25917569824015b22c25f84a

Joey says he was injured.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:37 6 Oct 17

Reply #649036

re: Shorter set for short season

And Joey never lies so it must be true


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Anonymous
Last year
19:01 8 Oct 17

Reply #649458

re: Shorter set for short season

Joey just might find out how good a coach he isn't this season. Here's hoping.


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Shano76
Last year
19:06 8 Oct 17

Reply #649463

re: Shorter set for short season

Didn't take long for the Joey haters. Why is he so hated? I think SS has been good. He's no Randle but defensively thats a good thing. Harvey alluded last night JR didn't get along with teammates. So chemistry will be better too.


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paul
Last year
19:22 8 Oct 17

Reply #649466

re: Shorter set for short season

He was impressive in Sydney. Took command down the stretch like he needed to against Melbourne.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:03 8 Oct 17

Reply #649482

re: Shorter set for short season

I think all shorter haters just need to give it 5 games and realise the good thing that we have going with shannon shorter


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Anonymous
Last year
20:13 8 Oct 17

Reply #649484

re: Shorter set for short season

"Didn't take long for the Joey haters. Why is he so hated?" Maybe because he can't coach!. Not as badly as A Gaze however but I wouldn't either coach, coaching my side.


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