Anonymous
Last year

#41882

I like Homicide's commentary

Lot's of complainers that don't like his style.

While I don't think he's the greatest, and execution may not be fantastic, I enjoy his unfiltered thoughts.

His reaction to Coach Gleeson letting Cotton score 45 in a grand final for example.

With time I think he could be a great colour commentator once he iron's out the kinks.

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Manu Fieldel
Last year
22:14 5 Oct 17

Reply #648845

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Agree. I liked the announcement of his return from the start


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Ben
Last year
22:19 5 Oct 17

Reply #648849

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I like it when he's not talking.


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koberulz
Last year
22:42 5 Oct 17

Reply #648854

re: I like Homicide's commentary

His reaction to Coach Gleeson letting Cotton score 45 in a grand final for example.
Was to whine about Gleeson restricting him because God forbid anything going on be more important than him.

He also had no idea Ware and Andersen played in the NBL last year.

He's by far the worst commentator the league has ever had.


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
22:46 5 Oct 17

Reply #648862

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Ahhhh give 'im a chance


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CT
Last year
22:48 5 Oct 17

Reply #648863

re: I like Homicide's commentary

"and you know what's good about those nba trips? Frequent flyer points maaannn! And everything the Nbl does is executive class, baby"

Thanks for that insight you utter, utter twat.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:15 5 Oct 17

Reply #648871

re: I like Homicide's commentary

CT, go play monopoly in your room. It's about entertainment!


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koberulz
Last year
23:18 5 Oct 17

Reply #648873

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I wasn't aware spending two hours wanting to put my very expensive remote through my even more expensive television counted as 'entertainment'.

He reminds me of Donald Trump. Can talk for ages without actually ever saying anything, and the only substantive things he does say reveal a cluelessness that ought to make him ineligible for his job or serve no other purpose than inflating his already building-sized ego.


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Big Ads
Last year
23:32 5 Oct 17

Reply #648875

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Yeah, no kidding


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Kingpodge
Last year
23:56 5 Oct 17

Reply #648878

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Tell me more about this remote Kobe!


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koberulz
Last year
00:24 6 Oct 17

Reply #648879

re: I like Homicide's commentary

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KET
Last year
00:43 6 Oct 17

Reply #648882

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Haha aptly said Kobe - Homicide just talks sh*t and in an annoying way at that


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Anonymous
Last year
01:49 6 Oct 17

Reply #648886

re: I like Homicide's commentary

You would understand the appointment if he was some kind of NBL legend but he's not. Awful choice.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:18 6 Oct 17

Reply #648895

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I thought his commentary was good. Will get better as season goes on. I can think of a lot worse


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Isaac
Last year
09:20 6 Oct 17

Reply #648913

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Hate being a broken record about it, but he's the one commentator that leaves me muting the broadcast. Literally. I can't stand that sports bluster. And it's frustrating because we have loads of options, including past players who bring character and knowledge, like Heal, Rucker, Harvey, etc.

I can't comprehend his appointment. Unless there are thousands of teenagers who clamour for him?


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Anonymous
Last year
09:23 6 Oct 17

Reply #648915

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Not a teenager and I love his opinions.

You need to read between the lines with corey. Understand where he's coming from. Understand his background. Appreciate his journey and then u get where he is coming from and why he says what he says.

It's not always insightful but there's a background to it.

U can't take it on face value. If you do you're just being lazy.


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Bobby
Last year
09:26 6 Oct 17

Reply #648916

re: I like Homicide's commentary

He is OK, but looks as though he is just interested in money and not the league. You'd think if he was passionate about NBL he would of known that Cotton dropped 45pts in the grand final, and would of known other things too. He doesn't care about the league at all and only cares about his wallet.

A colour commentator should be the one giving insights into the NBL and interesting stats and facts. That's why colour commentators are ex-players/coaches most of the time, he fails to provide anything substantive for the viewers and is only there to provide a chin wag.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:30 6 Oct 17

Reply #648919

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Simple Isaac. There's two reasons. One is that LK has a hard-on for him. Loves his style. And it's LK's league, so what he says, goes. Second, the league's entire broadcast strategy revolves around greater social media engagement. If you noticed last night, there were constant calls by Casey to 'get involved in the conversation'.

They believe that Homicide (similar to Heal) is the ultimate love him or hate him guy. And people like that tend to get a spirited conversation happening on social media. The NBL believes that increased social media discourse/interest equates to greater TV ratings. Which is of course the end game.

Personally, I think Williams is incredibly unprofessional, a total self-promoter, and adds nothing to the broadcast from either an interest level or analytical level. He's just there to be a cartoon character, and if the league really wants to be thought of as a serious player with the general sports public, the kind of crap that Williams spews and his almost comical lack of knowledge about the NBL isn't going to get it done.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:38 6 Oct 17

Reply #648921

re: I like Homicide's commentary

"You need to read between the lines with corey. Understand where he's coming from. Understand his background. Appreciate his journey and then u get where he is coming from and why he says what he says.

It's not always insightful but there's a background to it.

U can't take it on face value. If you do you're just being lazy."

Just like Corey's commentary, this post is meaningless and says nothing useful.


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PeterJohn
Last year
10:17 6 Oct 17

Reply #648930

re: I like Homicide's commentary

To see colour commentary done really well, watch an NFL broadcast. Ex players usually, who really know the game, know the people playing and coaching the game, provide insightful analysis of individual plays and tactical status of the game. They also have clearly done their research and provide anecdotes and history about players pre NFL as well as about historical precedents. That said, they're full time, professional sports commentators in the sport and I think that's what shows with the use of ex-players and coaches in NBL coverage. They simply rely on their experience, which rapidly becomes out of date and less relevant as new players enter the league and new fans start following the sport.

Personally, NBL commentators have never added a lot of value to my watching of the game. They generally tell you what you can see for yourself and mostly provide little insight into the tactics and thinking of players and coaches. Williams is just a more extreme example of that. Too much sizzle and not enough steak.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:24 6 Oct 17

Reply #648932

re: I like Homicide's commentary

u need to understand his jounrey b4 u say he is a bad commntator or else ur ignorant


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Anonymous
Last year
10:41 6 Oct 17

Reply #648936

re: I like Homicide's commentary

When he said "Hodgson you need to stay in your lane and stick to the mid range jumper instead of going to the basket" I realised quickly he doesn't care about watching the league and is in it for the money.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:44 6 Oct 17

Reply #648937

re: I like Homicide's commentary

he only sed that bcos of his journey which u need to appreciate


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Pop
Last year
10:46 6 Oct 17

Reply #648938

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I haven't heard his commentary, so go nowhere near that, but in the context of this discussion the statement about 'understanding his journey' is nonsense.

As a commentator he needs to be judged on his performance in that role, not whether he has had a hard life [which I gather is the implication] or whatever.

To go down the 'understanding his journey' line is to suggest that every listener/watcher of any sport/activity needs to research and understand the life story of every radio or TV commentator he or she encounters, which is a nonsense ... and an impossibility, when you include 'understand'.

The attributes and effectiveness of a commentator can - should, anyway - be judged only on his or her performance in that role; not whether they have had a hard life, have played or coached the game/activity, are married or single, young or old ...


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Anonymous
Last year
10:59 6 Oct 17

Reply #648942

re: I like Homicide's commentary

On one hand, yes he should know more about the league. If a player was in it last season or who was the Grand Final MVP and who dropped 45.

He should have been briefed. Maybe he was.

On the other hand, much like the casual viewer, he's discovering things as it unfolds and that is interesting.

"oh Cotton dropped 45? Gleeson letting the imports play now"

I find that comment interesting and sparks conversation.

Yes Williams has beef with Trev, but who cares. It's about entertainment.

There are sports journo's who's entire career are based of annoying fans. Stephen A Smith, Skip etc.

They do it for a reaction... and everyone here is reacting.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:03 6 Oct 17

Reply #648944

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Thats like saying trolls have a purpose because they encourage people to respond.


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Isaac
Last year
11:24 6 Oct 17

Reply #648948

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Appreciate his journey and then u get where he is coming from and why he says what he says.
Pop's already said what I was going to say, but this is a bit ridiculous. The league and journos often play up a colourful history of imports as exotic, but as a concession for commentary, it's irrelevant.

Empty rhetoric is exactly that. It's cheap and without research.

No doubt shock jocks get attention, but I can't stand them, run in the other direction, and think they're a net negative for society.

I don't think Homicide is in that basket, but "it gets the people talking..." as an argument puts it on that spectrum.


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Hespect
Last year
12:05 6 Oct 17

Reply #648956

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I have high expectations of commentators, they include knowing the 10 best players in the league.

I think he would be fine in small doses interviewing coaches/celebrities during the game.

He has had plenty of opportunities in the commentary box and he simply isn't good at the job and hasn't put the in work to improve.


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Zodiac
Last year
12:19 6 Oct 17

Reply #648960

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Yeah but Homicide has a connection from LA that tells him Casper Ware is legit.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:20 6 Oct 17

Reply #648961

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I told you!!


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Hespect
Last year
12:24 6 Oct 17

Reply #648963

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Bad Santa knows hoops!!




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BVL
Last year
12:36 6 Oct 17

Reply #648966

re: I like Homicide's commentary

He needs to do courtside and half time interviews only.

Very amateurish.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:48 6 Oct 17

Reply #648967

re: I like Homicide's commentary

It's a slap in the face to his colleagues and the fans of the league when he doesn't even pretend to know about the league. It's like a giant "f**k you" to us all.


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Duke Fan
Last year
13:00 6 Oct 17

Reply #648968

re: I like Homicide's commentary

The only thing more over the top than this clown is KR's $289 remote :)


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Anonymous
Last year
14:07 6 Oct 17

Reply #648986

re: I like Homicide's commentary

He's dreadful.


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koberulz
Last year
15:15 6 Oct 17

Reply #649011

re: I like Homicide's commentary

When he said "Hodgson you need to stay in your lane and stick to the mid range jumper instead of going to the basket"
He actually said "Nathan Hodgson, you need to stay in your lane."

Guy has no clue.


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ME
Last year
16:20 6 Oct 17

Reply #649026

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I think it goes beyond research or caring about the league - I just think Homicide is not particularly intelligent overall. He probably went through his basketball career on his natural instincts but doesn't have the analytical capacity to talk too deeply about it, outside of "dudes from the west coast shoot jump shots," or whatever it was he said.

But having said that I think he could have a role in the broadcast but they've just put him in the wrong one. He should be something of a hype man and do sideline interviews with fans and sometimes coaches (it was hilarious to see him go straight to the Robert's issue with Joey in the socially oblivious way that he did). I also like his Ladbrokes ad. In a role like that he might thrive.

I can see what they're trying to do with Homicide, and maybe with some tinkering they'll find a spot for him, but I hope they're not married to the idea of him as an actual commentator because he isn't cut out for that.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:59 7 Oct 17

Reply #649255

re: I like Homicide's commentary

The interview with cotton at half time where he had to start by saying that he was a former Mvp was sickening, I'll put with all the othe,r commentators but I wish homicide would go back to New York.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:21 7 Oct 17

Reply #649291

re: I like Homicide's commentary

He is crap. Like Kobe, I was close to throwing something, but at my cheap tv. Spent most of the broadcast telling him to shut up every time he spoke. He commentates like a d..knead and I think it's natural.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:25 7 Oct 17

Reply #649293

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Thankfully John Casey was leading tonight because flanking him tonight were two pieces of crap from polar opposites of the personality spectrum.


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anon
Last year
10:12 8 Oct 17

Reply #649357

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Must say I'm extremely surprised by the consensus reaction in this thread. Presumably we all have a common interest in seeing basketball grow in this country. And if it does, it will be on the back of guys like homicide and his daddy LK, not john fkn casey. Honestly, john Casey is "cute" at best but dude won't be the reason 8-16 year olds are picking a ball up.

Anon few posts up spoke the truth - homicide is a LK appointment through and through and his sole purpose is to increase the exposure of the league. See -
recurring appearance from homicide on weds nights 'bill and boz show' where he plugged LK and his insta numerous times, post game interview with cotton, plugging his gram too, face of nbl fantasy.

I say all this despite being in complete agreement with you haters that his commentary is 'amateurish.' Sure, but if you can't see past that to appreciate the broader strategy at play, you guys deserve for the NBL to remain as shit as it has been these past 10 or so years. So the next time Homicide says something to offend the stat geeks amongst you, maybe just have a laugh at his poor grammar and phrasing then move on to enjoying the games. Which, by the way, have been great in this first round.


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koberulz
Last year
20:20 8 Oct 17

Reply #649488

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I thought Redhage did well, personally. The cross to him during Countdown was absolute garbage and he wasn't great in the pre-game and halftime segments, but during the game itself I enjoyed his work.

Yeah, his delivery is lacking, but he at least knows what he's talking about. Easily the best Perth-based color guy since John Gardiner.


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Luuuc
Last year
22:00 8 Oct 17

Reply #649496

re: I like Homicide's commentary

I find Redhage hard to listen to for any longer than about 10 seconds, knowledgeable or not.


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
22:12 8 Oct 17

Reply #649497

re: I like Homicide's commentary

Recharge is Perth so I don't like him


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