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Two years ago

Wildcats v United Friday 20th October

Perth Wildcats v Melbourne United

Where: Perth Arena

When: Friday October 20th 6:30pm Perth time. 9:30pm Eastern Standard Time

Tickets and Membership: www.wildcats.com.au

Television: Live on Foxtel, FOX Sports 503 (FREE 2 week trial, connect within minutes, no obligation) www.foxtel.com.au
Delayed: ABC Television 11:05pm

Streaming: nbl.tv

My thoughts: Game of the year so far, in my opinion. Should be an absolute cracker! I think United will pinch this one.

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Tornado  
Two years ago

Grand Final preview...

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TokotoRulz  
Two years ago

Weather - Sunny and 31 degrees

Traffic - Telethon is on, so it may be shit.

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Train  
Two years ago

Heart says Wildcats by 3
Brain says United by 7

I just hope this game lives up to the hype and we get a great close game.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Perth seems a solid enough team this season, but I wouldn't say we're as good as the OKC Thunder so it's hard to justify tipping us.

Looking forward to giving Prather a big pre-game cheer to express my appreciation for everything he gave us, and then booing him for the remainder of his non-Perth NBL career :p

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TokotoRulz  
Two years ago

I think it may be a blow out either way.

Tokoto with 30 points and a couple dunkshots.

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Cats 4 life  
Two years ago

Match ups all round, can't wait to see cp 23 again. Don't care it's any other team.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"He even got to the point this past off-season where he almost followed Ennis into the NBA following his strong showing at the Summer League with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

When that didn't eventuate, the Wildcats turned their attention to trying to re-sign Prather for an attempt at the championship three-peat. But he could see the writing on the wall that this was now Bryce Cotton's team with the Grand Final MVP somewhat surprisingly returning for 2017/18."

How does this shit make it to the NBL website?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto looks the goods, Prather will have to be at his best. The guard match ups look fascinating as well, Ware v Cotton, Goulding v Martin, then there's Brandt v Boone. Should be a great contest but sometimes these game can blow out. Both got good benches. Melbourne done lot traveling in last month, it could catch up. Cats by ten plus.

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Little H  
Two years ago

TokotoRulz
Today
11:18 20 Oct 17

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re: Wildcats v United Friday 20th October
Weather - Sunny and 31 degrees

Traffic - Telethon is on, so it may be shit.


Isnt Telethon on Saturday night? If your still trying to get out from Friday nights game on Saturday then you might have bigger issues.

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AC  
Two years ago

Wildcats may be too tough to beat at home.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Interesting words from Gleeson last night on CH 9

"We wanted him back, he didn't want to come back, thats his choice but we're fine with the team that we have".

Interesting to see if Prather gets booed.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

As above, I will congratulate Prather when he comes out but as soon as the game starts it is booing and jeering from my end to give my team any advantage it can get

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LV  
Two years ago

Looking forward to this one. This could be the first of many times in 2017/18 these two meet!

Not going to offer a tip!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

8:30pm is Eastern Standard Time. 9:30pm is Eastern Daylight Saving Time. Come on Aussie, it's not that hard.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brilliant LV. Yes you're right, they will meet at least 4 times this year. Einstein

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Red 73  
Two years ago

This stuff makes me so mad. I'm good friends with some of the cats coaching staff and the club offered Casey a pay CUT to return to the Wildcats. Not very fair considering he had won two rings and two MVP’s with them.

Of course he was going to look at other teams- it’s his career and anyone in the industry would be looking to make money during their short careers. In fact, when Devondrik Walker did his foot the Cats messaged Casey and asked if he’d be keen to be their injury replacement (he’d already signed with Melb).

Been a wildcats member for 15 years but I’m going for Melbourne tonight.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I'm good friends with some of the cats coaching staff and the club offered Casey a pay CUT to return to the Wildcats.

There's that arrogance we all know from the club. Not surprised.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cool story Red

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

In fact, when Devondrik Walker did his foot the Cats messaged Casey and asked if he'd be keen to be their injury replacement (he’d already signed with Melb).

LMAO, what planet are they on?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Planet Perthworld.

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Cats 4 life  
Two years ago

Who is Prather to decide? He said he is going overseas to play then comes back when it doesn't work out and you expect the cat's to kneel down for him? Red change it to white tonight.

Took Melbourne offer, more money and good luck to him but one player isn't bigger than the club. Tokoto has done enough so far to say that yes would love to have Prather back, shit happens we move on and he won't be the reason we don't get a three peat.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The point you're missing is they low balled him while in his prime. Amazing.

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Red 73  
Two years ago

Yep agree with you @Cats 4 Life- we can do it without Prather and we have a good team this season too. However part of the reason of him looking outside of the Cats was the offer they gave him prior to his decision to look overseas, he didn't come back knocking on their door once he realised Europe wasn’t for him (after playing in Germany). Basically I Just think Gleeson’s comments about saying it was his decision to leave are not really fair, that’s all :)

Should be a good game though!!

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Haha ... well played, Cats



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Anonymous  
Two years ago

$30 off a $120 jersey... bargain

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

@MelbUnitedHQ
TWO BIG INS ✔️✔️
Casey Prather and Chris Goulding both confirmed as IN for tonight's blockbuster in the jungle.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Or go to kickz101 and they're $85 anyway

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Kingpodge  
Two years ago

Well Brandt's come along way since that random anon 'Brandt isn't an NBL player' post from 12 months ago.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

#688 that was my point :)

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LV  
Two years ago

Everyone enjoying the latest instalment of the Kyle Adnam show??

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yep.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Redhage's voice is sooooo irritating. :x

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Redhage is probably the most irritating commentator I've ever heard in this league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Angus Brandt putting in early All NBL 5 form

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Manu or in the entire world.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wow Homocide saying Damo as good as any shooter in the league with his feet set

Damo's career 3pt accuracy has been the darndest thing with it's ups and downs

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Homocide did admit he didn't follow the league last season... LOL. At least he's honest.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Waxy getting a little excited after that dunk.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Waxy got outhustled so had to lash out. Next time don't get beaten.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

That's a flashback to Adelaide/Melbourne Waxy. A few big plays, then bonehead fouls.

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LV  
Two years ago

Lucas Walker is one of my favourite players of all time.

But that was 100% the right call.

Obvious unsportsmanlike.

Maybe becoming a Wildcat just makes people become jerks?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Four foul shots plus possession for MEL. O_o What?

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AngusH  
Two years ago

LOL!!! Prather

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Half time buzzer beater from half court made by Prather.

HT PER 43-44 MEL

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AngusH  
Two years ago

What a swing, nice job Waxy!

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AC  
Two years ago

This is a game!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Prather on being booed: "They don't know the whole story."

Well we heard you got lowballed.

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J  
Two years ago

Wesley with an obvious loose ball foul, no call. Fine waxys reaction was wrong, simple solution though. The another no call on Wesley when he floor cotton, disgraceful, Melbourne in the lead die to pathetic officiating again

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LV  
Two years ago

I'm predicting that was the first half of 18 halved between these two this season.

And if every half is that competitive I won't be complaining!

If Brandt keeps this up, Perth will be very tough this season.

Cotton and Casper yet to really get going. Second half might have that in store for us.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Boo that ya dickheads

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

just seen Wesley and Tokoto having a bit of beef as they head in to the tunnel. Wesley slapped Tokotos hand and Tokoto was then being held back while the two had some words

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wesley is such a bitch.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

TV said it was Goulding vs. Tokoto in the tunnel.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tony Ronaldson in the house.

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Pickem  
Two years ago

Tony Ronaldson hasn't aged well

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

tv is wrong it was Wesley and tokoto

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton vs. Prather show let's go

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto another clumsy turnover.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

and another crap pass. A bit out of control.

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LV  
Two years ago

Did I hear a Perth fan complaining about refs a minute ago?

I knew you were joking....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

OMGGGGG sick putback dunk by Tokoto

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

wow thewe NBL refs are highlight stealers

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

these*

Cooke scores finally!

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Gus3232  
Two years ago

Man this is some game of hoops. What a fantastic league we have.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The clear top two.

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Well its a possible GF preview Gus3232.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

13,037 in attendance.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

These Perth MFs need to get Td up on the flops

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AngusH  
Two years ago

lol @ Tai. Should've been an illegal screen on Cooke, but hey.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melbourne floundering.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

3QT PER 71-63 MEL

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

McKay just asked the pilot to turn around the plane

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LV  
Two years ago

Made a few comments in the Gaze thread by accident

Refs giving Perth loads of help here. Typical.

United really needs to get top spot this season. You have to be bloody brilliant when you're starting 12 points behind in this arena due to the reffing

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The Rooster  
Two years ago

LV what game are you watching?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Adnam playing defence said no one ever.

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LV  
Two years ago

Prather not fouled there?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cooke in beast mode.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

STFU LV

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Definitely not an over-the-back on Cooke there.

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LV  
Two years ago

Cooke didn't foul Boone on that rebound? (8 min mark)?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

No one on Knight for his midrange shot. Joke D by Melbourne.

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LV  
Two years ago

Not a charge there (653 4th)????

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

LV is spot on

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melbourne may be talented but aren't composed enough and lapse on D.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

As intimidating as the Perth arena must be for opposing players, it's 4x more intimidating for the referees.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

LV is not spot on

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LV  
Two years ago

This reffing is criminal

After giving up my NBL membership after 15 years last year, I was thinking of getting one this season

But tonight shows you how far the nbl has to go

It always happens in Perth. How many have I picked here (and in Gaze thread)?

Is genuinely not rocket science

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

AngusH is also spot on

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Your membership doesn't include games in Perth so don't worry.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Angus Brandt is like 9/10 FG. LOL @ Utd defence.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Did the refs help Brandt's shots go magically in?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Argh Brandt goaltends Cotton's successful shot.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Such a shame that Brandt wiped out Cotton's shot after his travel.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wow Homocide interviewing Simon Devlin. Never thought I'd see that.

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LV  
Two years ago

When Shawn Redhage says "I'm not sure what Casey has to do to get a charge?" Then you know it's a B.S. call

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The Rooster  
Two years ago

Bottom line is Perth are making shots and Melbourne just are not

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

LV the fact is scrub Brandt is like 90% shooting with 16pts. Go comment on the crappy defence by Utd.

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LV  
Two years ago

Bryce Cotton has about 7 points from the free throw line that he won't get at Hisense, so a I'm looking fwd to the rematch

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

You are a joke LV. Brandt torched Utd.... lmao

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Two years ago

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Two years ago

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LV  
Two years ago

If Perth hadn't got so much help down the stretch, we would've had a second half that was as tight as the first

It's a shame the refs robbed us of a tight finish

Bad decision by Vickerman to throw it in though. Only 8 points the diff and United had the ball.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

So the refs caused Tokoto to block Moller from three?

Brandt of all players torched your million$$$ of s roster. Address that.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Nah that's all right. Let these red blokes have it.

United for the 'ship tho

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Good to see some aggro, but this game didn't live up to the hype. Now, outta here before the drunk Perth fans get home...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melbourne disappointing. Not legit. Was expecting more.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

The bad guys won tonight but the good guys (any of the other 7 teams) will win it all

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Now, outta here before the drunk Perth fans get home...

Hahahahaha +1

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"When Shawn Redhage says "I'm not sure what Casey has to do to get a charge?" Then you know it's a B.S. call"
I thought you would know the game LV. Text book charge.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melbourne look like pretenders.

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LV  
Two years ago

Cotton will have a rude shock soon. Won't get away with kicking his legs on jumpshots in other arenas

Go Adnam. Played so well in the first quarter. Too bad the refs tried to reduce his impact in second half by calling the bogus foul defending Cotton and then letting Cooke smash him in an illegal screen

Apart from the refs..

United has to respect Brandt more. He's a beast in the low post. Deny the passes better. When he gets it, Double team him. Make him pass it out of the post and then rotate and adjust.

Push the ball at every opportunity. United has more firepower than Perth. A free flowing contest will suit United's strengths more. Chemistry will develop which will help here, Prather and CG looked a bit under done.

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LV  
Two years ago

Anon I meant BS no call. Absolutely it was a charge

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton had a rude shock last season too - winning a ring.

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LV  
Two years ago

In terms of season outlook, early signs suggest these two teams look like grand finalists.

Will Bairstow return? Bris could be smoky.

Adelaide look strong but I don't see them beating either of these two 2 out of 3 games.

Illawarra will come good and will compete like Adelaide.

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LV  
Two years ago

Last year doesn't mean much this year.

Cotton is a gun but didn't look like it tonight. Relied on refs bailing him out but otherwise wasn't effective

Ware was just Ok too. Both teams defended perimeter well.

Both will come out with a point to prove next time.

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

The amount of sodium chloride from Manu and LV is incredible.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Is this the game topic or crybaby thread? I can't tell.

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Pete Evans  
Two years ago

Yeah not happy with the officiating tonight. Perth got lucky. Played well but got lucky

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Robert Flores  
Two years ago

they gonna go cry in the car

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Foul 27 to 17, Perth the flop capital of world basketball.

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George Calombaris  
Two years ago

F Perth

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LV  
Two years ago

Just reading the box score, confirms my thoughts. Perth with 26/30 from the line. Cats took advantage of refs calling 27 fouls on United. Many very soft. Good luck calling those in front of 10,000 at Hisense - there would be a riot

Meanwhile Cats only got called for 16 (If you exclude Walker's elbow to the back of Wesley head) and Cooke got away with about 5 fouls on a 5 minute period there.

United hasn't actually played much game time with a full team. Sat their stars in the Blitz and then CG and Prather went down. No one likes losing but a 5 point loss in Perth Arena at this stage, under the circumstances isn't a bad result imo

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Iain Hewitson  
Two years ago

Aw geez I thought the basketball game tonight between the Perth Thundercats and Melbourne Tigers was good. But I got something to say. F Perth

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Gary Mehigan  
Two years ago

Yeah good one George you twat. Spot on about the 'Cats tho. Maybe go shove a Perth fan next home game

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J  
Two years ago

Of course Prather drew the charge, refs froze on about 3 charge block calls. Lv if the defence doesn't give the shooter space to land it's a foul, considering gouldings theatrics on every shot suggesting cotton was getting bailed out is a bit rich, he also got smashed by the rotating help defence on multiple occassions. If the d is moving forwards foul will always be on them.

No comment on Wesley behaviour? True sportsman I guess, especially when he couldn't leave it on the court.

I guess you are happy with the ref calling off one of the best highlights the nbl has seen in years too??

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Illawarra smashed by the Kings. Come good, said no one other other than LV. ;)

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Ainsley Harriott  
Two years ago

Spicy thread

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Kenny Mayne  
Two years ago

Even with derogatory credit, you can own a brand new car.

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Imaperthtool  
Two years ago

Cotton- no fouls? *someone gotta shower buddy**

I wonder what would have happened if the game was in Melbourne, the same stats and fouls registered but in opposite teams?

I like a good game, I like a close game. I don't really mind who wins cos I like basketball two-fold but I'm thinking there would be a few who will question 17 fouls to 27.

Bench points a major factor which shows Cats have depth like Melbourne.

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 9:00 Was that a foul on Goulding?

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

"Meanwhile Cats only got called for 16 (If you exclude Walker's elbow to the back of Wesley head) and Cooke got away with about 5 fouls on a 5 minute period there. "

LV did you miss the pasrt about how United weren't getting fouled taking jump shots all night long?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Man you'd think I'd get sick of the salty tears after crushing yet another usurper to our crown....

....but no it never gets old.

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 5:51 foul on Andersen?

If that's a foul call it at both ends.

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Ainsley Harriott  
Two years ago

Ey my celebrity chef chums made an appearance. Bonjour

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Kenny Mayne  
Two years ago

...Took a while to develop...

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 4:17 No foul on Cooke screen?

Perth is much better at defending post

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J  
Two years ago

Lv thinking, cooke jr fouled adnam so that justifies Wesley shirtfront. But the theory doesn't apply when Wesley fouled walker approaching the loose ball, walker is a flog. For the record dumb play by walker.

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 2:38 Cotton sticks his leg out. Incidental contact on arm after shot. Why a foul on Adnam? Let it go

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 2:16 Casper was fouled but they missed a foul on wagstaff on same play

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J  
Two years ago

I hope for the same outcry when there us a plus 10 foul differential against the cats. Oh wait that's just called justice isn't it?

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Fool  
Two years ago

Carn the us!

Got some good/bad footage. Strange ref calls tonight.

Taking the win but would prefer not to talk about it. You guys would likely just ruin it for me with jealousy!

And facts

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Ainsley Harriott  
Two years ago

Seriously tho, I feel like Cooke Jr impacted tonight's game more than McKay did any game he played last season

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Surprise, Ainsley is actually me.

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LV  
Two years ago

Q3 1:25 NO foul on Cooke screen?
0:56 No foul on Cooke pushing opponent off the ball?
Q3 0:25 No moving screen on Knight vs Goulding in the backcourt?
Q4 8:28 Prather arm grabbed and interfered with while getting rebound on baseline? not called
Q4 8:05 Cooke over the back on rebound not called
Q4 6:53 No charge called?

Thing is these aren't necessarily obvious calls. But if you're gonna call every tiggy touchwood foul on one team.... Then you call it on both.

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Fool  
Two years ago

Keep looking im sure you can find more

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

It's funny actually, just this morning I was watching the Jonny Flynn '8 v 5' press conference.

"That was one thing I heard when I first came to the NBL was you come here and you have to be ready to play a little extra, play a little harder because things aren't going to go your way."

"I'm looking like, 'what do you mean?' everyone knows this and nothing has ever been said about these certain things not going your way."

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Never quite reached the heights it could have with the talent on the floor, but still a pretty intense game.
FWIW I partially agree with LV. Felt like Perth copped some softish ones early, but after that there were regular serves of home cooking.
Loved DCJr's contributions.

WTF were MU doing pulling the starters with the game still winnable?

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anon  
Two years ago

In defence of manu and LV, they are spot on with the calls. I don't complain about 50/50 calls but 3 were obvious mistakes. 1- no charge on Prather. 2- 3pt foul on cotton when he kicked out (first not second one) 3- 2 no calls on Boone leading to TOs.

Nevertheless, the better team on the night won the game. But Melbourne to me look scary at their best, which they were very far from tonight.

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J  
Two years ago

There was beaps of holding off the ball both ways. MU should have adjusted how hard they closed out after the second time

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LV  
Two years ago

I think one thing United can learn from Perth is defending the post

You can't let a big unit like Brandt back his man down and go one out, so close to the hoop.

Contrast that to around the 430 (give or take) watch Perth doubling Andersen when he was posting up. Sure Martin is DPOY but we need to apply the same principles.

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LV  
Two years ago

It's simple.

Melbourne had loads of soft foul calls against them. Perth didn't. All of Perth's fouls were fairly clear cut fouls. And Perth actually committed a number of fouls that weren't called.

With fair reffing United probably wins that. So with your star shooting guard returning and in round 3 of the season with a new coach, losing by 5, I doubt Vickerman will be too upset about losing tbh. It's a long season.

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LV  
Two years ago

4:30 3rd quarter that was meant to be

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LV  
Two years ago

J- what about the foul on Goulding 9:00 3rd quarter? Thing is, if you call a foul cos someone brushed someone with a fingernail, well then they missed about 15 fouls on Perth - every time Prather went on a drive.

So don't say "adjust your close outs". NBL needs better refs in Perth. It's a longstanding issue.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Quite the meltdown, LV. Holy ....

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Kenny Mayne  
Two years ago

LV this site isn't your own personal blog.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'Seriously tho, I feel like Cooke Jr impacted tonight's game more than McKay did any game he played last season'

Selling McKay short. He was a beast defensively last year

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D2  
Two years ago

I was going to say that apart from a couple of strange calls, Perth were indeed favoured by the Refs tonight.
But then again, reading LV crying like a little girl is such good fun.

Couple of curious decisions by Vickerman, and conceding the game when 8 points down and 50+ to play, wtf?

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56  
Two years ago

The refs dont have benefit of sitting in a chair watching TV footage like you seem to be doing LV. If you actually watch what Melbourne do you'd realize that every time a refs veiw is obstructed they grab on a jersey, hook a body or grab the arm of the player cutting. From my courtside seats I saw that on almost every play. Sure perth do it to be no where near as much as Anderson, Boon and Wesley did. If you stop being a 1 eyed fan you'd notice that if every foul was called on both sides it would still be a plus 10 foul count because Melbourne still got away with alot of off ball fouls.
But at the end of the day you play to the whistle. Gotta adjust to what the refs are calling. They made crap calls but were consistent crap calls. Gotta adjust to it thats what they big $$ are for.

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56  
Two years ago

Also LV Prather didn't get those calls on drives even when he played for Perth. Why would he get them now?

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leungtl  
Two years ago

But really, what WAS up with Vickerman pulling his starters early? Watching live, I could see Boone go "WTF?" as he was walking towards the bench

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Btown  
Two years ago

Can LV have their own thread for future games, shit to read after the game when you are interested in more than just complaints. Like maybe the players and plays.

As for pulling players, it was really weird. It was unlikely but not mathematically out of reach, especially when you have Goulding/ware who can hit pressure threes.

my general thoughts -

cotton/ware seemed fairly passive considering we know what they can do, mostly taking what came to them and not so much creating.

Prather was a bit fumbly but came good and was probably MUs best.

Tokoto fumbled even more, honestly looks like he is thinking 2 steps ahead of where he actually is instead of being in the moment and reacting to defense. Some places you can get away with planning your moves on the approach but defense are ready for it here.

Brandt is legit, clearly the international stint has given him a lot of confidence. Willing to back anyone down on the post. teams will pay more attention to that left hook shot.

Cooke is exciting, can't say much more than that atm

Doubt wildcats will see another game against MU this season without Goulding nailing a 3.

Tensions were boiling over long before the walker incident, could see little bumps by both teams behind play.

Perths depth was the difference in the end. Matty knights move there gives the bench a whole new look and if Cooke keeps that up, the second unit is very strong with wagstaff offensively and defensively.






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Benno  
Two years ago

First off Redhage is the most biased commentator ever and is boring a fuck. 27 to 17 team fouls with 12 extra freethrows didnt help us. Refs were influenced by the crowd and called the softest of fouls. Wildcats fan getting all arrogant now when the game was gifted too you. Over the foul limit with over 7 minutes to go in one of the quarters?

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skull  
Two years ago

Really enjoyed the arm wrestle of the first 3 qtrs.

Once again a defensive momentum swing orchestrated by Martin swayed the pendulum the Wildcats way.

When Martin decides to lockdown (in this case on a rookie) why don't opposing coaches send a barrage of on balls....immediately??
Coaches/teams seem to just let him take the momentum, which is infectious within the Wildcats group and activates the fans(mission accomplished)

Although beautiful watch, at this level Martin alone shouldn't be allowed to have such control of the pendulum...


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MACDUB  
Two years ago

Didn't watch the whole game but IMO the standard of the league this year is pretty crazy (granted we were watching two of the best teams probably but still)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Jesus LV, you're a little bitch.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Prather shot 4/15 two pointers, Anderson 2/8, 1/4 from three not good enough, needed more ball movement. Really enjoyed the contest, quality game, refs spoiled it a little but if your getting 13000 fans each week you get the calls.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

The better team won the end.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The Melbourne bench against Perth starters in the last 56 seconds was strange move but they ended up plus three so probably got use bench more. Some Melbourne subbing seemed unusual re team balance.

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

"Jesus LV, you're a little bitch"

That's unfair, bitches stop once no one is listening. LV kept going after everyone left the Stadium.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Pretty cool to see the Facebook Page 'Basketball Forever' (Usually NBA posts, but its an Australian Admin) do a couple of posts about the game. Over 2mil followers who are basketball fans is some good exposure. Always going to be those handful of NBA snobs talking trash about the NBL, but quite a lot of the comments on the posts were pretty positive.

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paul  
Two years ago

LV, it's like you're surprised Perth got some home cooking mate! It's been happening for a long time now.

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Anklebreaker  
Two years ago

Melbourne could not play strong enough D without fouling. They were in team fouls with 7 mins left in the third.

Then Boone, Goulding & Ware were all on 3 fouls. Overall 27 fouls to 17. Sending the Wildcats to the line for 26-30. When you score 30% of your overall score as basically uncontested shots your going to win.

Tokoto is Prather 2.0, is more athletic and once he gets settled in could be phenomenal for the Cats. Remembering Prathers first few games, I thought he was going to be sent home!

Overall great game, going to be a great series between these 2 teams!

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Tokoto is certainly not Prather 2.0. Cannot create scores for himself, and not ready to say Tokoto trumps him defensively. Both are probably the best wing defenders in the comp though

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Timberball  
Two years ago

Cats absolutely got some home calls... but we were at home! That's what a 13k sellout gets you.
LV get over it, breaking down every play to find a missed call to justify your team losing is just sad.
United will be absolutely be in the GF this year in my opinion but they can't have Ware, Goulding and Prather all having off nights together.

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LV  
Two years ago

Tokoto could be just as effective in the NBL as Prather. Maybe not straight away but by the end of the season.

Prather I think is better at handling the ball and getting to the hoop, Tokoto is taller, more athletic and longer wingspan. On ball D I think Prather may shade him, but Tokoto looks Slightly more troublesome and disruptive than Prather on the glass and off ball D in the passing lanes.



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LV  
Two years ago

Tokoto reminds me of Kawhi Leonard about 2 or 3 seasons ago. Just before Kawhi took the final step to NBA superstardom.

Prather is already there.

Looking forward to seeing what Prather can do when Goulding is fit and firing.

If I'm Vickerman I'd be tempted to run Barlow alongside Ware and CG. Let Prather be the man with Adnam alongside him. I reckon the big 3 are wasted a little when on court together. I'd be making sure 1 of them is on court at all times

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LV  
Two years ago

(And Prather is a logical fit alongside Adnam because you're putting easily your strongest perimeter/wing defender on court with your weakest)

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Timberball  
Two years ago

LV did you just try and compare Casey Prather...a 0 time NBL MVP to Kawai Leonard? I've been a Perth fan all my life and I've never been that delusional. I guess you think Ware is A better IT and Goulding shoots as well as Steph Curry LOL

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LV  
Two years ago

I'm talking playing styles. Relative to the competitions they are in.

As in, I could see Tokoto having a Kawhi like impact in NBL like Kawhi has in NBA. Great 2 way player potential

Prather already is

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MACDUB  
Two years ago

Teams always tend to get some home cooking; and as paul says, Perth is no different (but arguably slightly worse than others). Even as a Breakers fan I'll concede we get some really bad home cooking (as in bad for the league; obviously good for the Breakers)

We really need Perth games to give really high quality, competitive games as they did last night. Last thing we want is for Perth to be so dominant at home that people aren't interested because the result is a foregone conclusion. But heck; I'd still tune in to all Perth games if they're as close and as high quality as that (but I fear the likes of the Hawks and Cairns going there)

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JR  
Two years ago

The refs were shocking last night and whilst the wildcats are always benefitting from some favourable calls, last night it was exceptionally bad. Melborine wasn't allowed to breathe on a wildcat at one end whilst the wildcats were allowed to play their brand of defense of which the cornerstone is physicality and contact down the other end with impunity.

The wildcats were struggling offensively early in the 3rd when the refs started giving out fouls to Melbourne like they were candy. The fact the wildcats were on the foul line shooting bonuses so early helped them withstand a run from United.. that along with United’s best players riding the bench by the end of the third due to foul trouble.

I see the favouritism.. is it league mandated or are the refs told that the revenue stream from the wildcats is too important to jeopardise by calling a fair and even game?

The wildcats are already a very good team, do they really need the extra help to win consistently?

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The Rooster  
Two years ago

LV - just loved your breakdown of calls/no-calls during the game, obviously with the benefit of slow-motion/rewind.
Each call is a split second, and can never be repeated.
Just hoping someone can do that for you, to help you improve your life's journey. That way, you'll always be right.

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

"I see the favouritism.. is it league mandated or are the refs told that the revenue stream from the wildcats is too important to jeopardise by calling a fair and even game?"

Yes its favourtism, the owner of the league (and the United) ordered the Refs make United lose.

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Anon  
Two years ago

My God, you Melb supporters are just pathetic. If any of you are over 13 years of age, you should hang your head in shame. Forget sport, go join a library or a bridge club. The bridge club may help you get over it.

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JR  
Two years ago

So what is it the lovebroker? You are quick with the sarcasm which tells me you are a feeble minded idiot.

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D2  
Two years ago

I still have a few questions over Vickerman's decisions.
Boone was the preeminent big-man early, yet as soon as he got 3 fouls he was benched for an extended period. Its not uncommon, but I think it cost them momentum at a crucial time.

he twice benched Prather early on when he seemed unsettled instead of allowing him to find his feet.

And whilst I am no fan of the protracted foulathon final minute, conceding the game with more than 50 seconds on the clock was a little extreme

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LV  
Two years ago

That was just bizarre.

Is there press conf recording anywhere? I hope they asked him that.

United had the ball. If they'd drilled a quick 3, it would've been a 5 point ball game with 45-50 secs left.

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Anon  
Two years ago

What's the point LV? Let your best players rest. No matter what they may have done the refs would have screwed them over and ensured Perth won. This is LV logic.
Please go to http://vba.asn.au/

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Btown  
Two years ago

Can't find the tokoto put back dunk anywhere. Sure it was waived but still would be nice to see.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

on foxtel

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

or nbl.tv or abc

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not sure how you can criticise the referees so much and not mention the Tokoto tip jam that was waved away due to a phantom call on Wagstaff.

Smells of bias.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yeah can't believe they called against sucha sick play with hardly any foul. Pathetic.

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Camel 31  
Two years ago

Two quality teams going at it , but tooo much whistle..Pretty hard to guard anyone at all ..
(one time ago we trialed play on advantage , but got too rough....)

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Watto  
Two years ago

Anyone else notice Chris Goulding running into a lot of screens during this game? I made a video of it

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