Dome Rat
Two years ago

Bradtke to help Sydney Kings as rebounding coach

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/bradtke-to-help-fix-kings-rebounding-woes-ng-s-1788074

Gaze , Copeland and Bradtke all coaching at the Kings

Boys club much? JVG just cant help himself

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Isaac  
Two years ago

"Concentrated block of time" - sounds like a bandaid. What are they realistically going to get from that that they haven't from a career in the sport with dedicated coaches.

Day one: "So, have you heard of boxing out?"

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

BWAHAHAHAHA at first it reads like an April Fool's Day joke.

While they are at it they should also sign up Giddey & Gordon as coaches. Oh and maybe take Lindsday out of retirement, why not.

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Benno  
Two years ago

Might as well bring in Dennis Rodman who can show them to play with a bit of heart and also resolve Australia and North Korea tensions..

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Yinka Dare  
Two years ago

If you got a starting centre who is 6'8 and a pf who is about 6’6 rebounding coaching will not help. Try getting an import centre.

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

Next they'll be bringing Warrick Giddy to show Cadee how to shoot 3's.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

This is pretty poor really. Firstly it reeks of being cheap hiring another Tigers mate on a part-time basis who can't exactly go out there and get the rebounds for them rather than addressing the real issue by signing a big man and secondly it really throws the players under the bus in a big way making them appear so inept that they need to be taught how to rebound.

In saying all that Ellis & Humphries are both very poor rebounders for players of their size.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Dave Simmons to come in as an import mentor too?

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Incoming Warwick Giddey on free-throw technique and Ray Gordon on the art of squirrel gripping.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

... Wow.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Very good read this from Olgun Uluc posted by Luuuc.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nbl/revealed-the-decisionmaking-behind-the-sydney-kings-horror-start-to-the-season/news-story/777fe42e9712649f5815a82927d34497

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Bret Rainbow as dunking coach

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Sydney Tigers

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

Giddy - Shooting Coach.
Nigel Purchase - Defence coach.
David Stiff - Head fake coach.
Stephen Whitehead - Assistant to the Assistance coach.
Ray Gordon - Anger Management Coach.
Lanard Copeland .....nah that's not even funny.

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TokotoRulz  
Two years ago

This reminds me of the time the Wildcats brought Scott Fisher back to play a couple of games coz the team lacked toughness.

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

I can't help but think that this should've been done the moment you have Humphries' signature. Even if you didn't, it would be wise to have someone with that experience or expertise working with bigs to watch them during practice.

One other thing, didn't Bradtke just have total knee reconstruction 2 weeks ago? How would he get around to show the kids?

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LoveBroker  
Two years ago

Bradtke will be playing in a wheelchair, so he'll be outrebounding the Kings front line in practice.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Brett Rainbow as dunking coach

Then JvG will hire Elle McFeast to judge his performance as said coach to show AEG everyting is fine.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

To hire Bradtke clearly tells everyone its all about the Tigers and screw us Kings fans!!

My season tickets are now in the bin!!

THIS TEAM IS OFFICIALLY A DISGRACE!

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Jumpshot  
Two years ago

"If you got a starting centre who is 6'8 and a pf who is about 6'6 rebounding coaching will not help. Try getting an import centre."

Agree 100%

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Instead of signing a player over 6'6 who can rebound, we of course hire a rebounding coach. Awesome. If the Kings were an under 16s reps squad, that might actually work.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not exactly a good advertisement for high profile players becoming coaches:

DMAC
ANSTEY
GAZE
HEAL

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

You missed Fisher

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

and Billy T

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

He said high profile.

And coaches.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Dmac was the worst decision ever. 2nd only to Gaze. How can these guys talk and teach about defence when they never played and 2 were the laziest trainers ever. Add LC and probably Bradtke to that list too.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Billy T is an icon of the NBL, in a more infamous way however but still an icon. "Coach"-turned-Goorjian's best-personal-assistant-ever. No joke but Billy T's main job role at the end was to make sure Goorj wouldn't forget his wallet and car keys etc, get coffee. as he was so forgetful. Billy T you did good! #icon

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

An integral part of the Kings threepeat. #icon

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Dome Rat  
Two years ago

This argument that ex players don't make good coaches is nonsense

Championship winning coaches that were "known" players

Smyth
Bruton
Goorjian
Joyce
Cole
L Gaze
Kerle

Ex Players that made finals or better

Fearne
Heal
Fisher
Brehney
McLeod
Vickerman

No doubt there are others but these are off the top of my head. Stating that ex players cant coach as a rule is nonsense.

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Reality  
Two years ago

Rebounding coach what a joke!

Ray Gordon in to bit the dirt dude off the bench coach?

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Duke Fan  
Two years ago

Dome Rat I don't think anyone is arguing that ex players don't make good coaches. Most coaches play at some level or another before getting in to coaching

The argument is against players mentioned who stepped or tried to step too soon into gigs that they weren't experienced or qualified for. A great player doesn't automatically become a great coach

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Dome Rat  
Two years ago

I 100% agree with that - see Magic and the Lakers

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Chewie  
Two years ago

Looking at the Bradtke hiring a little differently here, but don't get me wrong, polishing a turd you are still left with a turd, however.....

It is absolutely normal practice in business to hire people that you know when you are in a key position, either via direct reports or consultants. While there are a number of reasons for this, and not all are ethical, generally, the primary motivator is trust. If the hiring is in essence to fast track Isaac's rebounding or current lack of, Id have thought this was a positive for the Kings.

So many things just look "off" watching this team play at the moment. Their passing vs NZ was head-scratching and was the area that stood out even more than their inability to grab rebounds.

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Wookiee  
Two years ago

How man of those coaches were successful with no other head coaching experience or hell, even no assistant coaching experience?

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Duke Fan  
Two years ago

I think the significant points should be:

1. You don't have to have been a superstar as a player to be a great coach

2. Being a superstar as a player doesn't mean you'll automatically become a great (or even good) coach


Does anyone know what sort of coaching work Bradtke has done since his playing days?

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JR  
Two years ago

Gaze looks lost and out of his depth. The rebounding issue his team faces is a result
of poor defense on the perimeter allowing too much penetration and the fact as other mentioned that he has recruited a small front line. It becomes impossible for a player like Perry Ellis to step up and help on a drive and also get rebounding position when a shot is taken. If a Gaze would only realise that the rebounding is a problem as his defense is always (getting beaten and) in rotations and scrambling to find their players.. how do you block your man off the glass when in rotations on defense???

The fact he is treating the symptom rather than the cause tells me he lacks the knowledge to coach at this level.

One more thing, he admits that they won't get better quickly then says maybe they need to bring in "4 captain marvels"???

Has it not dawned on him that he selected and recruited this team. Any personnel shortcomings should be squarely attributed to who was responsible- himself!

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koberulz  
Two years ago

Gaze didn't pick the team.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

JvG controls all recruiting. He likes the control.

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gelder  
Two years ago

Gaze and Bradtke 2018 Youth Men's coaches at Melbourne Tigers. God help the poor boys!

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