Aussie
Years ago

Kings will sign import centre

According to Uluc.

So who will go? Kendle or Leslie?

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Reality  
Years ago

Kendle surely.

Leslie has been pretty good and Elis is a gun.

Big issue is they need a PG more so than a center because its clearly the most important position in the NBL and in 8 weeks time once Lisch is back the season could be over for them!

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AngusH  
Years ago

Leslie needs to go IMO. It has less to do with his ability (he's OK) than his fit... Ship Leslie out, get a PG, move Blanchfield to the 2 or 3, and plug a center in with Perry at the 4, and 75% of our problems are solved.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You think Gaze is only 25% of your problem?!?

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AngusH  
Years ago

Yeah, I think the roster is 75% of our problem (ie. JvG is 75%...). Gaze isn't great, but with the talent we have we would be a .500 team with a more balanced lineup.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why not get rid of Humphries, he'd be on good coin and hasn't shown much for it. Sure he's young and a local but his numbers aren't good, ditch him and one of the imports and pick up either a gun point or big and/or budget point/big.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You can't ditch local players midseason. Plus he is overpaid so doing that costs even more.

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Watto  
Years ago

Dunigan?

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Isaac  
Years ago

If you get rid of a local, you generally have to pay them out. If they're making a decision like Kendle, they're probably on a budget somewhere after spending so much on the roster and couldn't justify that.

To maximise their chances, they should probably swap out both Kendle and Leslie. Both were silly signings, but unless they are suddenly on a strict budget and think Kendle can seriously play PG, I don't understand that signing at all.

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Wookiee  
Years ago

1. Getting rid of Humphries is a stupid idea.

2. If they're not paying out Garlepp and are happy to get the negative publicity and bad feeling within the team due to that, then they're not getting their promising youngster who they chased really heavily and spent a bunch of cash on...

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woody  
Years ago

Absolute BS what is going on with Garlepp Seriously.

Humphries is actually really bad. Has terrible touch around the basket has worse hands than Bismack Biyambo did as a Rookie in Charlotte.

Below average rebounder for his height. Terrible Rim protector. Can't stretch the floor.

No wonder he did not get a gig in Europe or the NBA. We let go of good young talent like Brandt and he is dominating now.

Kings need to go get Benu Udrich or someone who just got cut from final NBA rosters preferably a PG.

Honestly would take Luke Neville on this team lol

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Yinka Dare  
Years ago

Guys humpries might be overpaid but he is also a 19 year old big man. Give him some time. Even khazzouh wasn't great at 19

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AngusH  
Years ago

Ironically, Brandt had pretty awful touch around the basket and wasn't a strong rebounder either. Took him awhile to figure it out. Humphries has a good right handed hook shot and is OK when facing up and attacking the basket, he just struggles to finish on feeds/offensive boards at the hoop... it will come. He's not worth what we're paying him though, and I'm guessing JvG expected him to come in and dominate for some reason... Sorta like they did with Maric, despite that not being his game.

We definitely do not need an ex-NBA PG... Would settle for an experienced journeyman. We don't need a Cotton/Ware type because we do have scorers, just need a playmaker who can defend the pick and roll and hit open 3s.

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LoveBroker  
Years ago

I reckon get rid of Kendle AND Leslie.

Kendle for obvious reasons.

Leslie because he is not the right fit.

Kings need a real PG not a combo not Lisch forced to play point.

Then get a PG and an import 5.

Even Jameel McKay would be an improvement to the current situation. Jameel will give you rebounds and rim protection with some putbacks and the odd alleyoop if the PG is good enough.

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Freethrows  
Years ago

What LoveBroker said.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kendle is not a bad fill in because he plays a similar way to Lisch i.e. with a scorers mentality so it keeps the schemes similar. It's just a pity he uses an import slot.

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FSTOS  
Years ago

"Kendle is not a bad fill in because he plays a similar way to Lisch i.e. with a scorers mentality so it keeps the schemes similar"

Yeah like Ben Allen plays in a similar way to Dirk Nowitzki

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Kendle is not a bad fill in because he plays a similar way to Lisch i.e. with a scorers mentality so it keeps the schemes similar. It's just a pity he uses an import slot"

Please bless us with more of this comedy.

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Wookiee  
Years ago

Lol... if he wasnt an import, yes he would probably have a job, but that doesn't mean that he's not a terrible selection for this team, now...

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SteveK2  
Years ago

You have to wonder if JVG knows what type of centre to recruit.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Should dump Leslie and Kendle get the import centre they need and a proper point guard.
Once Lisch is available either Thoseby or Garlepp should go.
Feel bad for Humphries he has been thrown in the deep end, would've been better off staying in college ( though he should have transferred from Kentucky).

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AngusH  
Years ago

TBH, education aside, not sure the US college system is even the best place for a big to develop... Probably better to go to Europe.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Along the same lines as McDowell-White in Germany would be the way to go.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon #652790

1) When the players stop listening to the coach
2) When the coach select the imports
3) when the coach decide to sign a aussie pt guard
instead of a Import
4) When the coach doesn't implement a defensive
game plan
5) When the coach doesn't have the ability to make
changes during the game
6) When the coach use outdated offense
7) When the coach isn't smart enough to hire
assistant coaches that will enhance the team
performances and work individually with
players
8) When the coach supposedly let the GM make player
decisions

Then the coach should be SACKED 100%!!

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koberulz  
Years ago

2) When the coach select the imports
3) when the coach decide to sign a aussie pt guard
instead of a Import
8) When the coach supposedly let the GM make player
decisions
You don't see the issue here? Apart from the fact that they haven't signed any point guards, so I have no idea who the Australian PG is that you're complaining about.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Probably the Australian who started at point guard for the Boomers this year?

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Isaac  
Years ago

From basketball.com.au - possibly speculating a little to draw initial traffic:

...Kings are set to rectify this issue, and will likely release a player or two in the coming days in order to bring in an NBA-level big man.


I don't see an issue with blooding Humphries in the NBL, but that means you're either rebuilding or you have someone good ahead of him. And either way, you give him minutes in a blowout.

He played 15 minutes (no foul trouble) against NZ where they were down 27 at 3Q time, then 13:46 in Adelaide again without foul trouble and where his team was down 35 at 3Q time. What are they saving him for?

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Agreed Isaac with as bad the as the Kings have been early in the last two games why not play Humphries more? I don't think there is a great deal there personally they've already got one import big that refuses to rebound but both he and Singh who has shown good glimpses should be getting a lot more court time.

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Isaac  
Years ago

From ESPN:

A new import big man would replace guard Jeremy Kendle, himself a short-term replacement for injured captain Kevin Lisch, but Gaze acknowledged they could not pin too much hope on the new centre.

"There's really only way to fix our problems and that is with real hard work, the reps on the floor," Gaze said.
He praised the attitude of established swingman Blanchfield, who is being played out of position at power forward, and former co-captain Tom Garlepp, who isn't getting much court time.

Gaze also rubbished a published claim that former Melbourne and Townsville player Blanchfield had been promised a starting role when he moved to Sydney this season.
Why play him out of position then? If it's working, it's not out of position. If it's not, do something else like start Garlepp or Humphries and bring Blanchfield in as an early sub.

(Personally I don't think starting him at PF is that crazy. It's happened to a number of presumed-SFs in Australia - Weigh, Worthington, etc.)

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Zodiac  
Years ago

The signing of Blanchfield was strange anyway when they already had Newley.

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SteveK2  
Years ago

Starting Blanchfield at PF isn't a bad idea as long as your centre is a dominant paint enforcer. Having Ellis suit up at 5, may not be too bad an idea either, if your 4 is a long and athletic ala Whittington but able to hold his ground vs. NBL 5.

Putting Blanchfield and Ellis together up front is just looking for trouble really. You're gambling that their offensive game are switched on and that they can defend without quickly picking up fouls.

As for NBA-level big man, IMHO not necessarily will translate into a serviceable NBL player in this day and age. Just recruit the right type of player, even if they are non-NBA. Names like Hibbert and Ezeli were thrown around with abandon, but they need to be careful if they think these guys will come in and dominate straightaway.

Hibbert may be too slow and plenty of questions WRT his mindset/work ethics. Ezeli would be a very good fit but the reason NBA teams stayed away from him was his knee problems not unlike Ronald Roberts.

Gaze's coaching is of more concern to me. I don't think Leslie's going anywhere, but if the unlikely should happen and they got Gaze a bona fide 1 and 5, would he be able to utilise them?

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Isaac  
Years ago

Is their roster so insanely different to Adelaide's, if you consider that Hodgson was limited by fouls in early games?

No clear PG. Sole big not known for his defence. Mixture of swingmen filling multiple roles.

If Hodgson isn't there, then Johnson is centre, and Creek or Deng are PF options. Parallels with Johnson-Ellis and Creek-Blanchfield (or Newley). Blanchfield should be able to handle at least most of the PFs of the NBL - Walker, Johnson, Vukona, etc.

That said, I prefer the recipe of a scoring PF and defensive centre rather than the other way around.

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SteveK2  
Years ago

Not insanely different, but there's enough there to place Adelaide at 3-2 while Sydney's 1-4. Your guards are more defensively-minded, individually they don't suffer from on-ball screen dramas like the Kings. As a team, your backcourt is far ahead of the Kings in terms of ball-containment.

DJ is a better rebounder than Ellis, and as woeful Hodgson has been so far, he has more experience than Humphries. Deng is also far ahead of Pineau at both ends of the floor. Each of these little things your players are better at, combined with their familiarity playing together and guided by the reining COTY become a whole world of difference compared to Sydney.

Still in saying that, you have to note that the 3 wins came from defeating the Kings and Taipans. Cairns without Jawai and Carrera is a different beast to what they could be. The 2 losses against United may be a better indication of what might happen if you pit a smallball lineup vs. more traditional strong frontline config.

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