LV
Two years ago

United vs Wildcats, 19/11

United boys will be chomping at the bit.

Got the rough end of the reffing last time, and it extended the Wildcats streak over United. Recent history is that the Cats have dominated the matchup, and they've all been close.

At this stage of the season, this result is huge. Lose and Cats go 2 games in front (7-3 to 5-5) and puts United back with the pack. United wins, they go to 6-4 to equal the Wildcats and get a game on the pack and have some confidence heading into the 2 week break.

Bring it on.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Still blaming the refs LV??

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Can't believe it, refs have been terrible in this one.

Big Booney hacked all over the place, Damian Martin still getting away with everything.

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TokotoRulz  
Two years ago

Free it for Perth.

Winning game one of this road trip should have the guys relaxed and loose.

As long as it's close it'll be a good game.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

TV ratings will be interesting, I think this is the first Wildcats game live on free to air this season.

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Aussie  
Two years ago

Less than 100 tickets remaining. Great to see

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Cats 4 life  
Two years ago

Lv, make sure you tell me when the foul was that wasn't called and at minutes? Many thanks

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Two blown calls on the very first possession. Nice

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto stripping Prather

JP > Casey confirmed

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

And one then dunk
Casey > Tokoto confirmed

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Waxy = GOAT

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Sick of no moves Cooke

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Is Cotton really much better than Beal?

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Man Goulding stinks defensively

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"Is Cotton really much better than Beal?"

yes

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'Is Cotton really much better than Beal?'

Did you see Beal's last season?

And hell yes

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cooke on the hook.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That's a bad fast break

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Very poor due to Vague being hopeless.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

er Wagstaff I meant.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

LOL terrible fast break

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

and Stiendl why pass out?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'You take it'

'No you take it'

Hirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Catters right on top here

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

No such thing as a Perth over-the-back foul in this league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto only 5min on the court half way through the 2nd. 0/6 from the field

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tokoto is not a great jump shooter, Prather is only slightly better. They are both slashers primarily

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Good night nurse

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

United are awful.

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jimmy  
Two years ago

Tokoto destroyed Prather as the quarter ended. Perth finally playing the defence that won them the title. First game all year that they looked like last years team

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

Goulding has lost his right to be in any Boomers conversation.

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

United are just so stagnant on O when Wesley gets it. The entire arena knows he will not pass. It's ok if he's hitting shots, not today.

Perhaps some Boxing out drills at the Half may help United too. They are getting destroyed on hustle plays. Is it a lack of discipline or fitness?

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Tom  
Two years ago

Pert hitting some shots, United can't buy a bucket, that is the difference.

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LV  
Two years ago

At the game

Cats have done what they usually do. Perth basketball.

United have been atrocious and can't buy a basket. Did Casper, Wesley and CG hit the club's til 6am last night?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

really liking the hammer time segment lately

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Btown  
Two years ago

United problems mostly lied with giving up offensive rebounds. Gave Perth the chance to find rhythm. After that is missing open threes.

Tokoto needs to get his shots at the rim and not settle for outside. That spin move was special.
And I still don't get why Kenny is ahead of dkd

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

How does goulding stay on the court?
If a good player is struggling shooting wise they are expected to do other things to make up for it. To half time he has played 17 minutes some how for 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals and of course 0 points to go along with his poor defence as well as 3 turnovers.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I don't think anyone has ever had that bad a stat line to half time in the history of the league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hammertime segment proves Heal is just a chucker who needs to be catch fire rather than a shooter.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"How does goulding stay on the court?
If a good player is struggling shooting wise they are expected to do other things to make up for it. To half time he has played 17 minutes some how for 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals and of course 0 points to go along with his poor defence as well as 3 turnovers."

Plus the sloppy foul where Cats got freethrows and possession.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Goulding with more horribleness to start the second half.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lol Mel U

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I wonder if TAB will still have melbourne as clear favourites for the title after today. They have a bunch of individuals and a coach who doesn't know how to deal with that fact. No chance to even make the grand final series.

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Btown  
Two years ago

Lol classic way to fake a charge. Get your weight on your heels and wait

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'I wonder if TAB will still have melbourne as clear favourites for the title after today. They have a bunch of individuals and a coach who doesn't know how to deal with that fact. No chance to even make the grand final series.'

How could NZ not be outright favourites?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"How could NZ not be outright favourites?"

Off the top of my head its been something like Melb $3.50, Cats $4.50, NZ $6

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

That flabbergasts me

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Would've been interesting to see how Daniel Dillon would have gone this season

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

This is the best Perf performance in a long time

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Greer with the sound effects again

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Looks like the sleeping giant is starting to rumble

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LV  
Two years ago

I wish Homicide would shut up

Cotton proving that he's no 1.

Meanwhile this would have to be worst game I've seen Wesley or Casper play.

Embarrassing right now

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

wabap? wtf stfu Greer

TAB are in love with Utd, grab that value on PER and NZB guys.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Onomatopoeia Greer

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Love Homicide criticising Goulding and calling out Greer on his weak excuses about his performances. LOL at Goulding playing good D as an excuse. Greer is a horrible analyst.

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Btown  
Two years ago

LV you must really hate homicide if you're at the game and still telling him to shut up haha

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

only 12 points from melb since quarter time

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CT  
Two years ago

Did Goulding just pick his nose and then eat it?

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Btown  
Two years ago

Wow Goulding ranked 30th for scoring in league

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Greer claiming that Melb Utd assistant coaches are happy with Goulding as his D has improved despite the poor shooting surely can't be right?

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UseTaHoop  
Two years ago

Do 2 opposing floppers cancel each other?

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Cotton is a bit of a smart was, but I guess you've got to be

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Man this refereeing is horrible

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Because it's the Perth way

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Smart ass*

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cooke's rebounding has improved the last few games, better job at holding onto it and not rushing

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Kenny the GOAT PG

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Btown  
Two years ago

United can't even hit an easy basket unless it's Prather.

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UseTaHoop  
Two years ago

Manu's a poet
And he didn’t know it

(It was intra-line consonantal half-rhyme though, ie repetition not rhyme)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Goulding to brick these 2 freethrows with his form

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

United.... Except all your coaching staff are wearing something completely different than each other. Not a good look IMO.

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Btown  
Two years ago

United 14% from 3, most were uncontested

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Haha that is weird.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

When Perth produces this defence no offense to the Breakers but they dont even stand a chance

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

Maybe it's just me but I think Corey went too far with saying Goulding needs a shrink. Going on and on about mental health like that is too much. Especially when he has zero idea what he's on about.

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J  
Two years ago

Cotton with the goulding special on goulding. Haha

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Fool  
Two years ago

Perth look good against poor competition.

But average against good teams

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LV  
Two years ago

I haven't said anything about these refs....

Seriously though, they make an uncompetitive game worse

Quite a few horrendous bloopers, CG usf, Martin and cotton rewarded for flops. Ware sent off with 4. Adnam rebound foul.

Just makes unenjoyable game even worse. Pay them more, more training, whatever you need to do

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yeah with NZ watching them their shots are falling even the bad ones not sure how long that lasts.

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LV  
Two years ago

I haven't said anything about these refs....

Seriously though, they make an uncompetitive game worse

Quite a few horrendous bloopers, CG usf, Martin and cotton rewarded for flops. Ware sent off with 4. Adnam rebound foul.

Just makes unenjoyable game even worse. Pay them more, more training, whatever you need to do

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Thats why they are back to back champs because they are average against good teams lol

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

hahahaha

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Btown  
Two years ago

If your Perth do you try ramp up the score. Or play some really long offensive sets

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Ramp up the score.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Probably ramp up the scoring, get that % up

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

What a productive roadtrip!

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

There's a difference between a sports shrink (which is the kind Homicide is talking about) and a regular shrink. No one is saying Goulding has mental health problems

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Damo's finger = GOAT

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Melb Utd's pts% is getting ruined. :)

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Btown  
Two years ago

lol Martins face unflinching wih his finger being popped in. Wasn't there an NBA player recently almost in tears

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56  
Two years ago

LV how was the CG unsportsmanlike foul a bad call? He fouled to stop the fast break while he was out of position. Which is a clear path fpul/unsportsmanlike is it not?

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

Corey said nothing about a Sports specific shrink. He doesn't get the benefit of nuance as he spouts too much verbal crap to get any kind of a pass.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Margin now over 30, oh me oh my!

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LV  
Two years ago

Thank goodness for Prather otherwise United could've lost by 50....

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'lol Martins face unflinching wih his finger being popped in. Wasn't there an NBA player recently almost in tears'

Lonzo Ball?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Lucas Walker v Shane Ili for MIP?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Mercy rule? This is horrible to watch a team play so selfishly.

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LV  
Two years ago

Boone and Prather have kept United ticking this season but Casper and CG just way too hot and cold, both went completely missing vs NZ and again today

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Anyone else think Goulding looks a bit heavy?
The body language and poor attitude are definitely part of this slump, but I'm starting to think the extra weight is a big contributor to his slump

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

How about, instead of being PC first and level-headed second, we choose to not be offended as an initial reaction

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Fool  
Two years ago

I thought simmons made lonzo cry? Not a finger

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Wildcats made Utd cry is all I know.

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Awesome performance by Perth. Hate em, but respect them. Mostly.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'I thought simmons made lonzo cry? Not a finger'

Tomato Tomato

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Vague :O

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Vague :x

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

We're seeing Cooke Jr develop before our eyes

He'll probably stay now

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Yeah DERwayne, Damo will come back on with 2 minutes left in a 30 point injured game you nugget

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Tohi? What kind of name is that no offence.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Dwayne is terrible.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Not surprised just typical DERwayne behaviour

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'Tohi? What kind of name is that no offence.'

Insert joke about Melbourne having no offense

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Goulding face guarding cotton at the top of the key ball gets swung to the corner and he still is able to back cut slow goulding. Priceless

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

This Neroli reporter sucks too. Stupid question to Cotton who reacted correctly with a "huh?"

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Btown  
Two years ago

Fox lady is better, why did neroli laugh at everything everyone said in any of the interviews

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Btown???

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Timberball  
Two years ago

4 questions to Cotton at the end, 3 were about how good Melbourne are despite getting destroyed. Commentary team shocked that both teams went deep to their bench in a 30 point blowout. Embarrassing telecast.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

'Fox lady is better, why did neroli laugh at everything everyone said in any of the interviews'

Do you come with the car?

Oh you, ha ha ha

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

I'll be level-headed with a person that is the same. Corey runs his mouth without thought and sometimes goes too far. That time I think he did.

I think the "lists" and that banter are great. Great way to get conversation flowing.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I'm coming around to Corey, he's not perfect but he makes the commentary more interesting than when he's not there

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Roy Hobbs a bit sensitive methinks.

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

Yeah, nah. Just think he overstepped.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Refs then daylight.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

LV are you going to blame the refs for United's insipid performance.

NZ, Perth then daylight

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BVL  
Two years ago

Big Goulding fan but he looks out of shape and out of form ATM.

He used to have a quick first step to get to the rim but thats gone.

Used to have a great handle to shake defenders for the step back J - thats gone.

Used to have great lateral movement but gets blown by on D.

I doubt he partied all off season but he doesn't look like he's worked on his game to get better and the rest of the league has caught up. Lucky for him they have no-one to replace him in the starting lineup.

Doenst deserve his Boomers spot but running in a new system may invigorate him?

Gets a tick on his positive energy.

The mind is willing just the body isn't able...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Goulding was hot in the half-time segment with Hammer. 3/3 from downtown.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Didn't LV say that United would teach Perth a lesson at home? I remember him running his mouth after Perth won the first game in Perth.

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Perth Wilburs  
Two years ago

Nothing wrong with Chris except mentally. I reckon with a stacked team he was asked to take a paycut and resented it. He took the paycut but i reckon it's pissed him off.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

I'd like to see Melbourne aggressively run plays to get Goulding shots. Too many possessions tonight where he was just camped outside the arc with a defender stuck to him. His defender is never going to sag or help off of him, so I'm not sure how they expect to get him shots off penetration or anything else if he isn't actively being run off screens and moving off the ball.

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LV  
Two years ago

Nah I didn't say United would teach them a lesson, I said Cooke wouldn't get away with 4 uncalled fouls in 3 minutes and Cotton wouldn't get multiple undeserved trips to the line from incidental contact after jumpsuits

And I was right. The reffing was ok (apart from a few shockers in Q3). Cooke got called for a couple of moving screens and Cotton didn't get bailed out.

United have some serious soul searching to do. Lots of questions over this team.

I get Vickerman is a new coach for this group, but with so much experience in this line up, and obvious talent (which has been on show from time to time) it beggars belief that they'd have these games where so many players completely go missing like this. That's what you usually get from young players not seasoned vets

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LV  
Two years ago

(Well Cotton didn't get bailed out except his mid court flop which was almost as bad as Martin's a couple of minutes earlier, for which Martin bizarrely got rewarded with a charge against Casper)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Cotton is better then Warte and i doubt that was ever a question. Cotton when he is on is crazy good. Same with Perth when they play there A game noi one can beat them over a 3 game series

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Manu Fieldel  
Two years ago

Moller should play 20 minutes per game at least

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BVL  
Two years ago

If that's true that Goulding had to take a pay cut, maybe he did take it easy in the offseason?

United will have $500,00 to play with when Anderson retires.

DA has flown under the radar here, he looks finished with more than half the season to go...

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Roy Hobbs  
Two years ago

I really think Melbourne need to try increase the tempo and get into transition a lot more. It usually leads to layups, mis-matches and cleaner looks in both primary and secondary trans.

I also agree that if they play CG, he must be used in an aggressive manner. His defensive issues are not as bad as some make them out to be, but they are magnified when he doesn't get to go to work on the other end.

Not sure why they went away from Boone setting high screen rolls. they were very effective early.

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LV  
Two years ago

DA played an absolutely brilliant game against Adelaide at Hisense, but otherwise has looked fairly ordinary. The refs calling everything also makes it tougher for a guy who is relatively slow at the 4 spot and was already struggling last season with the adjustment compared to Europe refs.

Its looking like his last season.

The " Aussie core" is everyone's dream but United has 3 import starters then Anderson, Barlow probably in last seasons so United will likely have big roster turnover next year

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J  
Two years ago

I think the local core is key, the best teams are all fortunate enough to start only 2 imports on court or have at all NZ.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I'm a united fan and ive always loved chris goulding but golly me what the hell happened to him? He is terrible. I've seen better D in thursday nights mens E grade. For someone getting payed as much as he is we expect a lot better than what his showing. I walked out of the game early today because that was the worst display of team basketball ive ever seen. Casey Prather and Boone only guys having a real crack!

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BVL  
Two years ago

I think Vickerman is trying to play Goulding out of his slump. I just hope it doesnt cost them too many more games.

Does he look at starting Moller or Barlow and bring Casey to the 2?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Prather got 20 but Perths length troubled him, got beaten defensively numerous times, Goulding could not play worse, Ware not much better but Melbourne hardly ever go to there bench. Prather should've gone to two and try Moller at the three for more than a few minutes except for garbage time. Prather on Martin would've been a better contest where Prather length would've been better on Martin.No point having super stars if they can't play together. Will Vickerman find the answers or be brave enough to make the changes. Perths imports won every contest on Melbourne imports. Has Goulding ankle operation slowed him, if Ware not firing get Adnam on for 15/20 minutes every game and same with Moller and Prather to the two, try Anderson at the five, his feet aren't as fast as they were defensively but he has length and still runs the floor hard and is long, both Boone and Majok struggled inside defensively today on Brandt power and Cooke athletic ability.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Taped it. Watched it. Enjoyed it.

But ... Melbourne, WTF?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Gets a tick on his positive energy.


WTF? Are you serious? He's a wingeing bitch. Always has been. He has a terrible attitude. Always complaining. Doesn't lead on effort. Does very little to make his team mates better. When he's scoring he's a show pony.

Any member of a team complaining to refs or trying to sell every contact as a foul instead of focusing on plays to win, brings terrible energy.

Goulding also gets away with a lot of hand checking and bumping the ball carrier. LV loves to complain about Martin's favours from the refs (I agree on the bumping count generally), but CG gets plenty let go in that department too. Difference is, CG is not an effective defender.

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Isaac  
Two years ago

How does that Melbourne team fail to top 60 points? At home!?

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Bol  
Two years ago

The break has come at a good time for them to reset. And probably at a bad time for the wildcats after having played their best game of the year

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LV  
Two years ago

Isaac the simple answer is that 3 of United's best scorers - Ware, CG & Wesley- had absolute shockers and missed a lot of shots they would usually hit.

But credit to Perth's D too, it was good, just as you'd expect.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

For United, its sometimes easier to coach less talent. Too much talent can rock the boat.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

When Greg Hire outscores Ware and Goulding combined you know something is wrong.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

LV blaming refs in a 30 point loss....ok then.

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BVL  
Two years ago

Complaining to the refs is one thing - a lot of players do it.

Goulding was first to bring the guys into a huddle on foul shots, encouraging others on the bench etc.

Compare that to Jeremy Tyler who looks to be the new Rasheed Wallace of the NBL and that's an example of bad energy.

What makes this loss worse is United had a 8 days break at home and Perth played a road double!

NZ, Perth then daylight...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

I wonder if TAB will still have melbourne as clear favourites for the title after today.

They still are favourites with them... lol.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago

I checked TAB and Perth is at $3.30 with Melbourne and Breakers both at $4.00.
Sydney clear last at $27.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Which TAB? We aren't talking about WA TAB.

Main TAB (tab.com.au) has:

Melbourne $3.25
Perth $3.50
NZ $4.50

CNS & BNE at the bottom @ $26

This is the TAB talked about in this thread, they seem to have a thing for United. All other bookies have Perth as favourites now.

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Hogwash  
Two years ago


I'm from WA.
Sorry I didn't ask which TAB in this thread.
Personally I think NZ are deserving favourites at the moment.
Sydney and Brisbane will battle for the spoon

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BVL  
Two years ago

Do you think NZ are just hot right now?

I personally didnt think much of there roster and imports but they've delivered.

If they get home court they would be tough to beat, only Perth could steal one over there ATM.

Fridays game should be great bball.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

NEXT Friday ;)

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Do you think NZ are just hot right now?


NZ weren't just hot against Perth the last two games. IMO, NZ outplayed Perth in all aspects of the game. In contrast, Perth were not able to break down the NZ defence. Perth had no reliable penetration, and no motion in offence, and NZ were generally able to control the defensive match ups.

Pledger shut down Brandt, apparently without too much difficulty. NZ back court could do whatever they wanted. Illi is having a great season, was able to move freely, and I think a bit too long for Cotton to defend.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

If Perth replicates anything close to that defence they showed on Sunday the Breakers will struggle to overcome them in a 3 game series with or without HCA.

That was playoffs version of the Cats where they demolish teams.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

If Perth replicates anything close to that defence they showed on Sunday the Breakers will struggle to overcome them in a 3 game series with or without HCA.

That was playoffs version of the Cats where they demolish teams.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Watching the game now (couldn't get the stream live). Melbourne weren't good on team play, but actually missed a lot of open shots, and Perth shot much better than usual. Melbourne had a few good periods of hustle plays though. I had already thought Melbourne tended to rely on one or shooters having a great individual game.

Reffing really was all over the place. A few stand out terrible calls, but as usual the worst aspect was the inconsistency.

I feel there were a several cases where calls contradicted Scott Butler's comments. Eg, USF against Wesley could have been ignored. Wesley should have fouled harder to make it count. JP had an open court, and retained possession.

BTW, does Cooke have a crooked wrist? The alignment seems off with his free throws.

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paul  
Two years ago

"Cotton is better then Warte and i doubt that was ever a question."

As a scorer, absolutely, but they are different players who are playing different positions. Ware brings a more rounded game, he is a strong defender and runs the show, where Cotton's job is to do what he does best, put the ball in the hole.

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koberulz  
Two years ago

they are different players who are playing different positions.
No they aren't, Homicide said so.

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paul  
Two years ago

I stand humbly corrected!

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Both are point guards? One likes to score more than the other!

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paul  
Two years ago

Damian Martin and Jarrod Kenny run the point for Perth. Bryce could play point and has elsewhere, but he plays almost exclusively SG for the Wildcats, which is very smart by them, that's where he's at his best.

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D2.0  
Two years ago

Only just got around to watching the replay (NBL.TV issues) so apologies for late post.

Very unexpected result. (Although I did know it before watching :-)

Commentary was laughable. Prather has been B2B MVP of the Champion team, but NOW they have suddenly decided he's a great player. Plus they kept banging on about the match-up between him and Tokoto, when it was probably the least critical aspect of the game. (Bother are good players, and both played well.)

I'd say the matchup of the guards was probably key. Martin & Cotton completely pantsed Ware and Goulding.
Front court battle was also important, and despite early good work from Boone, MU got murdered on the boards.

Still not sold on Cooke.
Perth are clearly serious about that elusive 3-peat, and that means getting past NZ, and that means overcoming their dominant front-court.

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