Luuuc
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WNBL Round 10

A Thursday-Saturday double for every team this round.
Flames vs Lynx on Saturday is a double-header with the Kings-Bullets NBL game.

Thu 7:30pm - Melbourne vs Bendigo
Thu 7:30pm - Canberra vs Sydney
Thu 7:00pm - Townsville vs Adelaide
Thu 6:30pm - Perth vs Dandenong

Sat 2:30 pm - Adelaide vs Melbourne (Foxtel)
Sat 3:00 pm - Sydney vs Perth
Sat 7:00 pm - Bendigo vs Townsville
Sat 7:00 pm - Dandenong vs Canberra

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AshT  
Last year

I'm keen to find out one day why Foxtel wouldn't plan to televise Sydney v Perth, considering equipment set up would already be in place for the game being a double header with the Sydney Kings.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Hopefully that Perth/Sydney game gets streamed - we could be looking at a playoffs preview there. 5 of those games look like they'll be absolute belters, so really looking forward to this weekend! Hopefully my good tipping form will continue - I'm somehow on top of the tipping comp ladder!!

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AshT  
Last year

Are you ctp19 at Basket Case tipping?

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Melb Fan  
Last year

yep that's me!

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AshT  
Last year

Hopefully you haven't hit the front too soon - I guess there's only one direction you can go from here.

I've been watching that Tiger June who's in the top few after we all laughed at her for getting just one in Rd1.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

To be honest I was looking pretty bad in the first few rounds, I think I was bottom 6 or so for a while there. I credit the Lynx for getting to the top though, I don't think I've tipped against them this season - so far so good for both the team and myself. Pretty impressive by tiger june to bounce back from that first round though

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AshT  
Last year

Yes, I noticed yours was a name that seemed to come from the back of the field.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I had a shocker last round in the tipping comp.....dropped me back a few spots

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Melb Fan  
Last year

https://thewest.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-lynx-gunning-for-10-straight-wins-ng-b88682960z

Lavey is out tonight for the Rangers due to concussion - makes it a very tough night in the office for Palau, Steph Blicavs and Todhunter without another guard coming off of their bench unless they bring over a development player who'd be thrown to the wolves against Williams and Whitcomb.

It'd be a tough choice for their coaches to make deciding whether to start Todhunter in Lavey's spot or bring Palau down to PG and start one of Roberts - which wouldn't work against Perth's speed based game to be honest, or Rowe in SF. Just yikes..

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Lavet will also miss their game against Canberra this weekend - IMO making that one quite winnable for the Caps.

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Huge round this week. Full double round, and with just 3 more to go then once it's over we'll be on the home stretch for finals. Already!

Rangers will really need to get a win to stay in the hunt. A tough ask. Would be cool to be at the game tonight, hopefully they get a great crowd.

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AshT  
Last year

Bishop off just 19-seconds into the game and hasn't returned.

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AshT  
Last year

She's back on for the start of the second quarter.

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Double Dribble  
Last year

AshT, what site are you looking at?
The WNBL site is down.

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AshT  
Last year

http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/wnbl/681959/bs.html

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Anonymous  
Last year

Embarrassing stuff from Bendigo

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Anonymous  
Last year

Looks like another typical game from rangers, cannot get that 3rd and 4th quarter, Anderson needs to use her bench, they literally run out of legs, she never seems to learn

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Anonymous  
Last year

What bench? Should Anderson bring in Giliam or Pizzey for extended runs?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Where's the bench , how many injured do they have

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Anonymous  
Last year

Maybe you should learn that rangers are depleted with injuries so there's no players with experience on the bench to use! Great effort by them I say.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I agree. Great effort by the Rangers on the road and down 2 starters.
Perth playing with fire. Seem to get up for the big games but have seriously struggled with some "should-beat" opponents at home in consecutive weeks.

Burton could be a big loss for the Lynx. She has been really solid over the past month or so, holding her own against some big name opponents. Will be eagerly awaiting news on her, but I have to think that since she didn't return to the court tonight she'd be very doubtful to suit up in < 48 hours over in Sydney.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Luuc I can't tell if your comment on Burton was sarcasm or not...

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Luuuc  
Last year

I've been critical of her at times (actually not so much of her ... more of Joyce) but no sarcasm there. She really has played her role well over the past month.
Our import post player has not delivered - I'm pretty sure she would have been recruited with the intention of starting - so Nat has been shouldering a big workload against some big opponents.

Hamson should be looking for 30+ tomorrow I reckon.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Rangers always have a bad 3rd qrt, regardless of if they are players down or not, and the coach never uses her bench no matter whos on it, most teams if they are smart would have worked out by now if they run the legs off rangers in the first half they can pretty much guarantee the win in the second. No reflection on the players, Rangers work their tails off, they just dont have enough gas in the tank for 4 qrts, utilizing those bench players to give your primary players valuable rest breaks, specially if your up early in the game should be a no brainer for any coach, your obviously not going to rely on your bench in crunch times, but thats why you have a bench to give your starters and main players a quick break, you dont use them to run for 20 mins at a time, but popping them on to rest the legs of players you really need down the business end of the game would be smarter than running what you need into the ground.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

I have no idea why they put Pizzey in particular and Rowe on main roster contracts.. had Blicavs not been forced out, both Rowe and Pizzey would likely have played 25-30 mins combined over the course of the season. I just think they recruit poorly, if the coach doesn't have the faith in her bench to go in and give their core group relief then why are they there?

If their starters weren't constantly run into the ground then perhaps they'd be championship contenders (with a fit Sara Blicavs of course). They could probably get away with their over reliance on their core group in past seasons, but that model becomes quite flawed when in this condensed season.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Rangers only have 1 player in Top 10 average minutes? Sydney have 4 players!
I think you'll find other teams don't use their bench that much either.
Canberra rotate players the most of any team and have a look at their winning record!

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Luuuc  
Last year

Caps would have to be a legit chance vs Dandy tomorrow, yes? Big minutes & big effort by the Rangers starters last night, followed by a long flight home...

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Anonymous  
Last year

I assume budget might be reason for why rookies are in main roster in most teams. Sydney won a championship last season and are running their starters into the ground this season!

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Definitely agree Luuuc, especially given they won't be getting Lavey i.e an extra rotation back for that game. I thought the Caps did well last night - although Sydney were without Taylor. It'll be interesting to see whether she is available for their game on Saturday - if she's not suiting up, I can't see Perth losing that one, even if they're without Burton.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Be interesting to see which team out of Canberra and Dandy have the worse 3rd quarter.

Canberra have been good in the 1st half in the last few games.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Wouldn't worst 4th quarters be a key indicator for teams showing fatigue? Since teams get 10 mins rest at halftime, players shouldn't be fatigued during the 3rd unless unfit?

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think the Rangers have won most of their games coming from behind with large deficits?

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Melb Fan  
Last year

For those asking about teams' performances in each quarters I've done a quick little sum up (keep in mind most of these figures are accurate but some are slightly off from the totals derived from the for/agst on the ladder but I can't be bothered figuring out what I've messed up). IMO these figures are quite interesting, but I think it does clearly show the current top 4 are deserving of their spots.

1st Q:
Melbourne +67
Canberra +11
Adelaide +10
Dandenong +8
Sydney +7
Townsville -5
Perth - 8
Bendigo -100 (that is not a typo)

2nd Q:
Dandenong +38
Melbourne +36
Perth +18
Townsville +16
Sydney - 20
Canberra -22
Bendigo - 23
Adelaide -43

3rd Q:
Townsville +63
Adelaide +54
Melbourne +45
Perth + 29
Sydney +18
Dandenong -62
Canberra -63
Bendigo -64

4th Q:
Perth +39
Sydney +31
Dandenong +20
Townsville +13
Bendigo +9
Melbourne +6
Adelaide -31
Canberra -88

OT:
Adelaide, Dandenong, Melbourne +2
Perth -2
Bendigo -4

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Yeah the Top 4 looks like a battle between Sydney and Adelaide. Perth are the top team, Melbourne have highest ceiling, Townsville are very good, best depth and should have an easy run home. That leaves the Flames and Lightning. Tough for one of them to miss out, and if it is Sydney then it'll be huge that last years winners aren't there (or any of the GF teams for that matter).

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Teams would really want to be finishing either first or second to limit their travel factor in the finals given it's highly likely Perth and Townsville will feature.. If those series go to 3 games that's 3 in 5 days and that travel wouldn't be pretty for the teams having to go to either side of the country twice.

Townsville by far have the easiest run over the next few weeks with Bendigo twice and the Caps and Dandenong once, but a tough final round with Sydney and Perth.

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AshT  
Last year

Thanks for the Qtrs compilation, Melb Fan.

Rangers v Capitals live stream tonight:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/live

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Melb Fan  
Last year

No Taylor for Sydney today according to livestats. The Lynx only travelled with 8 which is interesting, though in saying that their 3 woman bench would probably receive more minutes than the entirety of Sydney's.

Sydney's starting 5 is Ebzery, Moffatt, Wilson, Snell & Hamson - interesting to say the least.. I'd have thought they'd at least try and exploit the lack of height and start Boag like they did against the Caps.

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AshT  
Last year

Eight on the bench but just how important is the moral support & energy a longer bench can provide for an away team? I'm starting to lean Sydney in this.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lol @ Liz trying coast to coast moves twice and coughing it up both times - 2nd time also costing herself an early 3rd personal

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Luuuc  
Last year

Gawd its frustrating watching the Boomers play. Is there a lower basketball IQ team in the WNBL?
Important win for them but it really should not have been that hard. If Novosel doesn't get injured early then maybe a different outcome.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Boomers -

Really should be scoring more than 64 points in a game.

Players tend to look constricted by the offense and scared to break it.

They have a lot of games where they don't make open 3s. Making those shots really opens up everything for them.

Like a lot of wnbl teams they don't seem to back up well on the 2nd game of the week.

Big win for them, they should make the top 4 now, and will be quite tough to beat in a 3 game series.

She wasn't good on offense today although I really like Purcell's game. She is a great defender and does a lot of good things without needing the ball. If she adds a 3 point stroke to her game she would potentially be a top 10 player in the wnbl.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Purcell - Top 10 player? Please only thoughtful & measured comments allowed on this website!

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Anonymous  
Last year

#660811 - or you could watch basketball and have a basic understanding of the sport.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If only Ebzery placed a higher premium at the PG position in assists & making the game easier for her teammates rather than being a volume shooter from the PG position! She was extremely frustrating to watch today especially when she's shooting so poorly from the field but continued to keep firing away without any conscious whatsoever! Please wake up Katie & be the PG that the Flames need you to be (Flames would love Leilani Mitchell back in a trade for Katie Ebzery) instead of you thinking you’re the second coming of Russell Westbrook.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Mr Purcell you're far too easily offended! Not in any lifetime will Purcell be a Top 10 player in the WNBL! Wake up Dopey...

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Luuuc  
Last year

I'm a Purcell fan too. Not gonna get carried away with predictions, but she's got a good head on her shoulders, and plays a valuable role for Melbourne. A rare winner for them when it comes to the possession game.

Ebzery is in a tough spot. She's not a PG, but has been doing a serviceable job of filling that role this season. I'm pretty sure that with Asia out of action today, everyone would have been asked to step up in the scoring department, and that would have included Ebzery being more "selfish" than usual. She's a streaky scorer, and evidently she copped the down side of that today, but the Flames probably couldn't afford for her to die wondering. She still racked up 11 assists (of her team's total of 19) which is pretty impressive.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brondello at the game...
She said she was keeping a close eye on Garrick, clydesdale and Seekamp.

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Double Dribble  
Last year

No one has talked about Perth winning 11 in a row.
From 0-3 too 12-4.
The team has come together extremely well. The big three shot well. When one has an off game the other two some how step up.
Can't wait till the 17th when Perth plays Melbourne.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Seen on the rangers facebook page the game has been stoped due to an injury to jarry. Anyone know whats happened?

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Dandenong playing their assistant coach lol. I am all for the pay rise these women deserve but please the league needs to also look into depth issues. No way two to three injuries should force coaches to play in a professional league.

Perth are on an amazing run. It's impressive that Kunek has come in to play the "Mijovic" role and found a better version of Sami to play next to her. We knew pre-season they likely had best guards in league but didn't know how it would all fit and work, especially with filling rest of roster late. I still think they're a lot closer to the pack than this streak suggest (Dowe being average so far can't help) but what they're doing clearly works. Just wish for more coverage of the team so we could see more of them.

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Per various tweets, Jarry had concussion symptoms and stretched of as precaution. Sad, this will probably be an issue forcing her into an early retirement :(

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Anonymous  
Last year

Harry is a serious risk , she really needs to retire there is more to life than basketball

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Danny Green  
Last year

Sammy Richards in the game!

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Schwagmeyer was in the squad for Perth but couldn't play because of her PR not coming through yet. It must be close if they thought it could have happened yesterday but not playing this game means it's impossible for her to be eligible for finals. Could be important for Perth if any injuries occur, especially to guards.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Nice tipping, AshT :)

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Luuuc  
Last year

Just catching up with all the Rachel Jarry stuff
:'(

Not good at all. Has a definite Matty Knight feel to it. At the very least that has to be season over.
I hope she gets the best possible advice, and puts her health first.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Waves2lynx .... rangers had both starting guards out only other choice was Antoniadou and she was only cleared to play today apparently she's been out for a few weeks with injury so can see why they needed Richardson

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Melb Fan  
Last year

I thought Dowe was pretty decent today with 6pts, 10 reb, 4 ast, 2 stl - I doubt Burton would've reproduced those numbers had she played. They really only need someone to get rebounds and be able to take the opposition bigs, they're quite competent in the scoring department with Whitcomb, Williams and Kunek in there.

Good on the Caps for breaking their losing streak - thankfully changed my tip to them once I found out Lavey was going to miss. Hopefully Jarry is going to be okay, it's never a good sign when someone gets carted off by paramedics. Such a shame for her after all the hard work she'd been putting in to get back from her knee injuries over the past year.

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Waves2Lynx  
Last year

Anon, I can see why they did it too and I'm not knocking Richards who by the stats didn't disgrace herself at all so not rusty at all, but it's a situation that shouldn't happen in any league so it's an issue squad depth (and in the end, money). Teams should be forced to have more than 10 contracted players some teams entered season with.

Melb Fan, yeah I agree for most part and think that game is about what they expected from her across the season but she hasn't done it enough, or they wouldn't be relying on Burton to be their main defensive big. I said average instead of flop or bust because I don't think she's been that bad.

Good for Caps getting a much needed win. Definitely took their chance and now you'd think that's the nail in Dandenong's slim finals chances.

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AshT  
Last year

Melb Fan, Novosel doesn't go down and they'd be getting your name & address ready for the Aus Post satchel.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Rangers were without Lavey and Palau not to mention Sara. Injuries are cruel sometimes but at least they are showing competitive spirit unlike the Bendigo spirit!

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Anonymous  
Last year

any more news on the Newcastle wnbl side?

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Injuries are fickle, AshT! Probably balancing out the ledger there though re the Lightning losing because I changed my tip to the Caps due to injuries. I thought I was going to get that one though when Liz got her 4th foul.

Waves2Lynx, for sure and if she could maintain that level of output for the remainder of the season it almost adds another string to the Lynx's bow. I'm still quite perplexed by her recruitment - she came from a second division French league, the step up from that to the WNBL would probably be similar to BigV to WNBL if not greater due to the different style of play between countries.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

As for Bendigo, what an absolutely horrendous performance by their starters.. outscored by their bench 41-21, with the bench playing way less minutes as well. Take out Laney's 10 points and the remaining four scored 11 points combined. not good enough at all. I feel bad launching into her, but Banham scored a grand total of 2 points this weekend - not good enough for an import, particularly one who is known for and should be scoring for them given their lack of scoring threats.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Not much point having more than 10 contracted "paid" players if coaches don't ever use them or those 8 to 12th players get paid peanuts but have to commit to the demands of the wnbl season so they struggle to work to make ends meet
What your left with is kids with no experience or disgruntled players who sit all year waiting for someone to get injured

Rangers have 5 guards contracted ,Blicavs, Palau, Lavey, Toddhunter and Antoniadou
Currently 3 of the 5 are injured.... it’s just one of those things , it doesn’t happen often to teams , but as they say shit happens ... they dealt with it best they could

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Anonymous  
Last year

Normally 9th & 10th spots on teams go to rookies in their 1/2nd season. They should learn and appreciate any opportunity given to them.

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James Harvey fan  
Last year

Good stuff Melb Fan. Do you have a shortcut to producing those figures?

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Normally 9th & 10th spots on teams go to rookies in their 1/2nd season. They should learn and appreciate any opportunity given to them."

absolutely, but when your down three starters,THATS their opportunity
so you probably shouldnt bring in an assistant coach who hasnt played for 5 yrs to take the place of one of your bench lol

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Melb Fan  
Last year

James Harvey Fan, I wish I could say yes, but I just pop all the figures into excel and let that add them all together. Probably helps that I'm pretty handy with excel and typing numbers with uni though.

To be fair to the Rangers, the only guards on their bench excluding Richards were Antoniadou who is inexperienced and coming back from an injury, plus DP Gilliam who is still a junior and has only played 2 minutes all season. Not exactly the two at this point in time whom they could rely on to play those 27 mins Richards played in a must win tight game against experienced guards in Hurst and Wehrung. Obviously not the greatest look to have a coach suiting up, but they can't just throw away a game - especially one that important - because short term injuries have struck.

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Anonymous  
Last year

think you will find Antoniadou would have enough experience , but perhaps the injury issue prevented crt time, you would want to hope so, shes been around long enough to be able to more than hold her own at WNBL level, otherwise its a bit of a slap in the face for her.
Time will tell if they do the same at the next game I suppose.

any news on Jarry, she I would imagine wont take the crt again this season.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Isnt Antoniodou 11th man on the Rangers roster? I didn't see her make an impact in SEABL last season to assume she could have an impact at WNBL?

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Camel 31  
Last year

you didn't know it..... you didn't think it could be done...
liz cambage with a ballet-like pirouette...
..in the final end , she won the game...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Any players not currently in the wnbl expected back next year?

1/5 of the players this season are not wnbl calibre.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Big statement. WNBL is as strong as it has ever been. If the 1/5 statement was true it would have been very high a few years ago as there are many players who can't get a gig now!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hopefully Mitchell, Mansfield, Allen, Talbot, tolo and a few others overseas come back next season making it stronger. Couple of quality senior college kids too.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Who can't get a gig?

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Anonymous  
Last year

http://www.hoopshots.com.au/2016-wnbl-offseason-tracker/
That will have maybe twenty names not playing now aside from those retired.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lol, who on that list is wnbl calibre who is not playing currently?

Players who chose the overseas route don't count.

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Anonymous  
Last year

There are loads of WNBL calibre players who just need the opportunity to step up. The strength of the comp this season means that very few of them end up on rosters and the ones that do don't get many minutes on the court to show what they can do. Having another couple of teams in the comp would help that situation. But do we want the strongest possible comp or do we want a bit of extra fringe player development? I think a strong comp is best because the SEABL does a good job of bringing talented young players up through the ranks.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Can you name some of these players please.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

If anything, next season I believe even more of the Opals squad level WNBL players will be playing overseas - this year the Commonwealth Games - i.e. chance to represent the Opals in Australia for once, would be a big draw card for those players, as well as having coaches keep a close eye on them in the lead up to the World Cup next year. They'd likely head over to Europe if they were wanting to experience that next season, then come back to play WNBL in 2019 ahead of the Olympics.

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Anonymous  
Last year

^ What coaches watching them lol...Brondello is in USA so too her assistant coach her husband

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brondello Said on the weekend that she watches film on the players here and overseas.

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Melb Fan  
Last year

Chambers & Goriss are WNBL coaches - thus keeping an eye on the players here even if Brondello is unavailable.. Also if they play in the WNBL and the season finishes mid January it makes them available for more training camps whereas European based players are unavailable until mid April at the earliest. The February Opals camp is being held when there is a break in the European competitions (and those European based players are only attending around one week of the two week camp).

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Brondello Said on the weekend that she watches film on the players here and overseas."

Which isn't even close to regularly being in Australia in person, on multiple levels and for multiple reasons. Why do you think coaches go to games for scout in person?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Chambers & Goriss are WNBL coaches who Brondello didn't trust enough so she brought in her own cadre of assistant coaches, who also aren't in Australia.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Olaf is coaching the Russian team. He's no longer involved.

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AshT  
Last year

Flames v Lynx Final Qtr
https://youtu.be/SvXkNswj_NU

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Melb Fan  
Last year

So great that Sydney were able to upload that! What a cracker of a final quarter, wish I could've seen that one live.

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