Frank
Years ago

Most overrated, underrated and worst players

With the season well underway, here is my list of the most over-rated, under-rated and simply the worst players this year...

Over-rated:
1. Andrew Ogilvy: continues to offer little, is temperamental, and rarely delivers
2. Chris Goulding
3. Jason Cadee: for some reason is continually talked up by commentators, however rarely contributes to the outcome of a game
4. Todd Blachfield: very disappointing season so far
5. Nathan Sobey

Under-rated:
1. Tom Jervis
2. Alex Pledger
3. Jesse Wagstaff
4. Mika Vukona
5. Alex Loughton

Worst:
1. Brendan Teys
2. David Barlow
3. Shaun Bruce

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TokotoRulz  
Years ago

What about an under-performing list

1. Goulding
2. Brad Newley
3. AJ oglivy

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TokotoRulz  
Years ago

Over-performing
1. L. Walker
2. S. Illi

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Manu Fieldel  
Years ago

I wouldn't say Shea Ili is overperforming, he's just a young bloke maturing as a player and figuring out how to get it done

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Blanchfield's always been wildly overrated putting up numbers on bad Townsville teams. Good luck to him he's been riding that these last few years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Over-rated:
Rhys Martin
Chris Goulding
Todd Blanchfield
Stephen Weigh
David Andersen
Mitchell Norton
Brad Newley

Under-rated:
Jesse Wagstaff
Mitchell Creek
Alex Pledger
Tom Jervis
Lucas Walker

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Lucas Walker has had a resurrection this season.

Ogilvy just seems to be temperamental than anything.

Cadee is just hot and cold. Has a great game, then goes missing for a few weeks. Probably needs some mentoring or something to get him playing hot week in week out.

for my money
most over-rated player - Goulding
most under-rated player - Vukona
worst player - Kevin White

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Snooch  
Years ago

How is Sobey overrated? Two seasons ago he was averaging 4 points a game. Last season 15ppg and league most improved player

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Bol  
Years ago

Ogilvy - most overrated

Andersen - most disappointing

Pledger - most underrated

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Bol  
Years ago

You can still be a good player and be overrated. Sobey should be classed more as disappointing because he hasn't reached the level of last season yet.

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Frank  
Years ago

Snooch, the reason I think Sobey is over-rated this year is based on the reasons you state.
He was outstanding last year, and as such had a whole lot of expectation placed upon him by commentators / fans / etc.
I don't think he has even come close to delivering or displaying the "NBA level talent" that there was chat about. Hence, I think that this season; he is over-rated.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most underrated by his own coach Dexter Kernich-Drew. Never gives him minutes even though he has performed when given time.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

DKD is fortunate to even be on a roster.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yet somehow Hire gets court time, and wtf does he even do out there!?

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

Kevoo White worst player to get regular minutes

Thoesby worst overall. He's a shooter who can't hit a shot

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Timberball  
Years ago

Hire is there to lift the intensity and get rebounds. He doesn't need to score to have an impact.
Overrated-Cadee (should not ever have been a Boomer)
Underrated- A healthy Jawai
Worst- Gibson (see Cadee)

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UseTaHoop  
Years ago

Goulding's a shooter who can’t hit a shot.
Yet we hear commentary fan boys talking up his "NBA level talent" shooting.

Most misrepresented player.

I won’t even mention most misrepresented manager and coach.

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Udog  
Years ago

Sobey has been awesome the past 2 games against Perth and NZ. Might have started playing into some form.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Creek underrated??? He has been tipped for a break out season for the past five years. Hasn't lived up to expectations at all.

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Each to their own with opinions.
For me overrated Moller , people talking like he is a future boomer.
Worst player Thoseby .

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To me Pledger has been under utilised his entire career! Always thought he was a guy worthy of 25-28 mins a game but has hovered around 17-18 most of his career! Foot injuries didnt help

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AshT  
Years ago

Good list, Frank! Love the under-rated, despite that Pledger & Vukona owe me one from a wager on Breakers today.

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Tickle me Cosby  
Years ago

Under-rated:

Tom Jervis
Majok Majok
Rob Loe
Perrin Buford

Over-rated:

Mitch Norton
Jarrod Kenny
Stephen Weigh
Te Rangi
Greg Hire
Cadee

Worst:

Teys
Hooley
Doyle
James Hunter
Te Rangi
Pineau

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Lawsy  
Years ago

Overrated

1. Jason Cadee. Will score 10, but oppponent will score 22 on him. Easily, the worst 1 on 1 defender in Australia, streaky shooter who can't really do anything but hit an open 3

Under rated

1. Perry Ellis been puttin up huge numbers. Is unguardable

Just plain crap

1. Todd blanchfield
2. Kevin White
3. Thoseby
4. Holt

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kyle Adnam for over rated.

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Ingles13  
Years ago

Norton is having a disappointing season after the improvement he showed last year

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Isaac  
Years ago

Wagstaff is my pick for underrated.

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LV  
Years ago

Over and under rated depends who's rating. I'll go with exciting and disappointing

Exciting/ better than expected:
Walker
Humphries
Wagstaff- makes the right plays. Smart, crafty, plays a role to perfection.


Disappointing
Ogilvy- was a superstar with Sydney and in first yr under Bevo in 2015-16. What happened?
Goulding
Holt
Andersen
Norton- hasn't come along as much as I'd hoped

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AshT  
Years ago

Agree Te Rangi has earned his over-rated spot but was the guy (& Trice) who hauled them over the line on Saturday.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I put Mitch Creek on the underrated list.

I have him as the best Australian player in the league.

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Udog  
Years ago

Creek just has just had injuries consistently. Great player and great energy.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

So who would be in the over-rated starting 5?

Seems like the consensus is

C Ogilvy
PF
SF
SG
PG

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anon  
Years ago

overrated kyle adnam pineau humphries

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Yinka Dare  
Years ago

Humpries at 19 has looked a lot more comfortable in the nbl than what Ferguson did. Not sure how you think he is overrated.

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AK-47  
Years ago

Overrated

Hodgson - commits a lot of dumb fouls which prevent him from staying on the court.

Blanchfield - inconsistent shooter that doesn't offer too much else

Underrated

Wagstaff - just seems to play well every time I watch him

Creek - starting to get the credit he deserves but the guy rarely plays a bad game and brings it every night

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AshT  
Years ago

Barlow's having his struggles with injury I believe.

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I got the impression of tyler being underrated and humphries overrated watching sydney...

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Yinka Dare  
Years ago

Yes because heaps of 19 year old big man have dominated the nbl like um um um?

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Frank  
Years ago

Jack Toft - agree with Ogilvy.
It would seem there is some consensus in having Cadee in the team.

So who would be in the over-rated starting 5?

Seems like the consensus is

C Ogilvy
PF
SF
SG Cadee
PG

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Hogwash  
Years ago

Hodgson to back up Ogilvy.

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Yinka Dare  
Years ago

Goulding sg, cadee pg?

Barlow sf?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The over rated all stars

C David Andersen
PF Delvon Johnson
SF Todd Blanchfield
SG Chris Goulding
PG Rhys Martin

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Zodiac  
Years ago

I don't think anyone overrates Johnson, there was a reason he was playing in Sweden before this.

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da_answer  
Years ago

Overrated:
- Newley / Penny / Barlow / Goulding (all once were good, now cooked)
- Cadde / Blanchfield

Underrated;
- Newbill / Buford / Conger (perhaps more a case of, just don't get the attention)

Worst:
- Teys.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sosa and Newbill are overrated, but only by Homicide.

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koberulz  
Years ago

He underrates Damian Martin horrendously.

If we're going to include Homicide ratings in this discussion we might as well list every player in the league, really.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Who is overrating Cadee? He cops it on the forum all the time.

I actually think he's an OK wild card to have off your bench, just not helped by starting in place of Lisch. Might be weak defensively, but routinely hits critical threes when I'm watching games.

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koberulz  
Years ago

The first post answers your question.

This is the difficulty with a topic like this: you have to work out whose ratings you're using. The consistency in names coming up here indicates that most of them probably aren't over/underrated unless you can specifically cite some other rating from somewhere.

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FSTOS  
Years ago

Under rated

1. Perry Ellis been puttin up huge numbers. Is unguardable

Check him out at the other end. Horrible defender.

There in lies the Kings problems...defensively

Cadee putrid
Randle Ordinary and too cooked from Gaze not resting him.
Ellis....see Cadee
Tyler Asked by Gaze not to try to defend in case he fouls.

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Bol  
Years ago

I'm not sure how critical Cadee’s 3s could be Isaac, they’ve won 3 games...

What bothers me about Cadee is his inability to push the ball up the floor with any intensity and create half breaks. Watch his style, he has this slow bouncy way of moving the ball up the court, like he’d rather look good than have an impact.

In Thoesby’s defense, he may be a horrible player, but apparently is an excellent set shooter. I’ve not seen Gaze use him in this way, it seems like Gaze tries to use him as a regular shooting guard, when clearly he should just stand in a corner and wait for a kick out from Tyler or Humphrey B Bear

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Anonymous  
Years ago

koberulz

I used a minutes per game cut off so development players were excluded and looked at a few different efficiency metrics to come up with the under rated / over rated. Most of it passes the eye test from watching games this season.

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4545  
Years ago

Over Rated this season would be Matt Hodgson and chris goulding.
I really don't get what the hype is about chris anymore.

Under Rated Players
Adam Doyle - plays such a solid game when on. Isn't given the opportunity to stand out in a team full of guards!
Majok Deng - killing it right now

Worst Player - Chris Patton

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Isaac  
Years ago

Bol, I watch Hawks games. I suspect a couple of those Kings wins have been against Illawarra!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Over rated - Jerome Randle. Doesn't actually help teams win, just puts up empty numbers & pouts if things don't go his way.

Under rated - Josh Boone. Actually think he's the best player on the MU team.

Worst - Brendan Teys. Daylight is 2nd. He would seriously struggle to get a game of C grade social. How is he getting paid?!

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