Lukosius
Earlier this year

WA SBL - February 2018

New February thread.....

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JR  
Earlier this year

Wolves - Billups, Sullivan.
Redbacks - Barrow, Roberts.
Tigers - Diagne, Bowie.
Senators - Anshila,King
Giants - Sovine, Sharpe.
Hawks - Monroe, Carlwell.
Buccs - Natesan, Colter.
Eastern Suns - Davis, Belger.
Flames - Hire, Ritchart.
Cougars - ? , ?
Lightning - Isenbarger, ?
Magic - ? , ?
Slammers - Voelkel , ?
Eagles - ? , ?

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Betty Boo  
Earlier this year

Who are Anshila and King for the Senators?
Haven't seen any mention of them elsewhere.

Nor have I seen any confirmation of Barrow or Roberts at the Redbacks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Redhage will be back at redbacks. It got done today.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Stirling are waiting to hear the verdict on Cody Ellis regarding minutes. League source tells me they are applying for special dispensation on the grounds that he had a whole bunch of DNPs. One would assume it will be granted too.

They also confirmed Davis meaning the Stirling starting lineup can look something like:

PG Wroe
SG Davis
SF King
PF Ellis
C Anshila

B - Litterick
B - Coburn
B - Bruton
B - Thwaites
B - Thwaites

If Ellis can't coach that team to a semi final, then you really have to ask the question. 1x Wildcat 1x 36er 1x Hawk 2x Imports. Have the option of Vague too though I’m hearing he’s making a return to Cockburn OR junior club Willetton.
Good sauce.

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Anononon  
Earlier this year

Vague going to NZNBL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Caleb Davis is a 4. He's a not particularly mobile 6’8!!! Hearing that he’s making some good money though. Stats in SA were ok but %s were poor. Not sure what kind of player he will be in SBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Vague not returning to SBL.
Coaching staff at Wildcats want him playing seabl or nznbl

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

championship winning player and Australian opal squad member darcee garbin set to return to the rockingham flames.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

um, yeah, no.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/darcee-garbin-back-to-light-up-qbl-with-townsville-flames/news-story/aa252ad3e0bbac62ca42e42668854a0f

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anon  
Earlier this year

Good thing QBL has actual news articles all over the place must be nice to get decent coverage.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Early pick for SBL mvp

The mayor of Rockingham

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

QBL - starts on 28th april.

WSBL - starts on 17 march.

garbin will play for the flames for a short period.
alex Loughton done a similar thing last season.



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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Garbin will not be doing a Loughton. Stop spreading your fake news you wannabe new york times journalist!

Lets instead have some fun and go the early year predictions we can review in 7 months time:

Ladder (Top 8 In Order)
Wolves
Tigers
Buccs
Redbacks
Hawks
Senators
Flames
Giants

Wooden Spoon - Eagles
League MVP - Ross (Buccs)
Grand Final - Buccs vs Redbacks
Champion - Buccs

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ladder (Top 8 In Order)
Redbacks
Buccs
Wolves
Senators
Tigers
Flames
Giants
Hawks

Wooden Spoon - Eagles
League MVP - Bowie (Tigers)
Grand Final - Wolves vs Redbacks
Champion - Wolves

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Lachlan Cummings officially has signed with Perry Lakes and will debut for the wildcats tonight

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JR  
Earlier this year

1. Wolves
Theirs to lose.

2. Buccs
No pure PG keeps them from No.1.

3. Redbacks
Is there enough ball?

4. Senators
Top-heavy could be their downfall.

5. Tigers
Diagne is no Turner.

6. Hawks
Loaded backcourt.

7. Giants
Have a nice first 7 or 8.

8. Flames
Hire's dodgy leg is a worry.

Grand Final - Wolves vs Redbacks
Champions - Redbacks
MVP - Sharpe (Giants)
Wooden Spoon - Eagles

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

Willo 4 the championship. Great signings. Big arms. Bigger balls. #SeeYouInSeminyak!!!!!

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Betty Boo  
Earlier this year

Who are these Willo 'great signings' you talk about?

At the moment their starting-5 is looking like...

Diagne
Bowie
Scott
Black
Armour

Nothing to write home about and weaker than last year.

If there are other signings (that nobody else seems to know about) then let us know, otherwise go back to school.

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Furry & Green  
Earlier this year

Lot of Wolfpack love here, great to see.

Competition getting harder every year, good for the Sport, so it's relatively open but Im happy with their signatures, looks a good roster build strategy

New Arena looks ace which will spur them on

Cheerio

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's a boring league anyway

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A Pimp Named Slickback  
Earlier this year

Then why are you on here ? That says it all..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

garbin - fake news , new your journo- ha ha !! see you in march darcee.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

why are we talking about Women's basketball again.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Slammers in discussions with Justin Reynolds. Looks nothing special, fits the rest of the roster

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Coaching staff is not even sure whether half the team is playing or not

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

A Pimp Named Slickback hahahaha great name big playa. Willo have signed Jarrad Jackson as a backup. A long with myself back on the bench making the ladies wet. #BaliBound!!!!!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

so Redbacks just announced Mo Barrow, Hussey, Roberts, Vigor, Smith, Wagner and LAko says the big one to come on facebook page (assume Redhage), where the F is all the money coming from, and is there not a cap?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Despite Jake's incoherent gibbering, it is confirmed. JJ and Burston both will be at Willetton in 2018.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What a joke.

Hussey - paid at least $500 per
Barrow - paid at least $800 per
Roberts - paid at least $500 per
Vigor - paid at least $500 per
Redhage - paid at least $1000 per
Lako will be getting paid too no doubt, $300?

thats $3600 per game * 26 = $93600?!?!

PER THE SBL BYLAWS : "The total player/coach salary cap for the SBL will be sixty thousand dollars ($60,000) per team per year."

So Perth are blowing the Salary Cap by $30k and we all gonna sit around and be cool with that? Even take $100 off each of those above, at its 20k over.

SMH.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Slammers could have a line up of:

Lay
Puot
Voelkel
Reynolds
Weeden

Durnin
Douglas
Leary
England

(Bit thin but a playoff hope)

Although it is most likely it will be:

Lay
Leary
England
Durnin
Weeden

Douglas
Woods
Hall
Harper

(Good luck)

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Youfcan't just make up numbers and declare that teams are over the cap.

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Anonomouse  
Earlier this year

You can if you're really, really jealous and don't know shit from clay.

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lel  
Earlier this year

Assuming Redhage is back, that's a potent line-up for Perth.

G-Wagner
G-Hussey
F-Barrow
F-Redhage
C-Roberts

6th-Smith
7th-Vigor

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My2cents  
Earlier this year

Perhaps they are playing for free just to get the opportunity to play under Lacko

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I did just make up numbers and declare a team is over the cap.

It's called estimating and inferring and it happens every day in real life.

What are you going to do about it...

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

There's a difference between "estimating and inferring" and "making things up". You're doing the latter.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So Perth are blowing the Salary Cap by $30k and we all gonna sit around and be cool with that? Even take $100 off each of those above, at its 20k over.

what are you suggesting we do?

I've tried hitting the letters on my keyboard extra hard and I have even used numerous exclamation marks at the end of my sentences and it doesn't seem to be making any difference. I'm out of options. Do you have any tricks up your sleeve my fellow keyboard warrior, lets rally the troops and get them up off there chairs sitting back acting all cool while these Redbacks go over the salary cap

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So what would your estimates be KR?

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Anonomous  
Earlier this year

If that money is anywhere near correct, I'm sure Wagner and Smith would have their hands out. Just as valuable as Hussey or Vigor.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lacko cheating the system, just like last year but more blatantly this year. Sbl never check the books so they'll do what they do. All teams might as well do it, make it with no cap. Besides he has no real respect either, all the sbl coaches tolerate his ego at best. He was kicked out of wildcats practice cause they know his full of it, and they had an open day with 700 people attend the following week. Applied for under 20s state team, didn’t get it. Let them burn money buying sbl championships. Then once the well dries up and he’s one more championships than lakeside, he can be the next Andy Stewart working around like his important.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Christian Rice just announced as redbacks GM. Good to see he is using his BWA knowledge to cheat the system

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Redbacks probably aren't over the cap. Would hate to see the "World Basketball Academy’s" payroll though. Lacko once again cheating the system

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Exactly, Hussey will be getting paid through World Academy, probably Barrow too. You say this is legal, which it is. But the league should wake up. It's ruining the competition. Why not publish salaries like the NBA? I know it’s a big leap into the unknown but...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hey

Don't be mean

Redbacksrule

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow he was the SBL CFO and now a team GM? hahahaha I can't imagine it from his days as a volunteer who everyone loved to needle.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SBL CFO?! lol the SBL has one person running it, Adam Bowler whose the GM.

Christian was once the GM and then became COO at BWA.

Chief Financial Officer for a State League, bruh this ain't BHP Billiton.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Eagles about to announce their import. Ex teammate of Sunday Dech at Metro State

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

Don't forget about Corey Craig back at Willo. WE TAKIN OVERRRRRRRRRRR. #KutaKrew

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Are you planning on contributing more than 2 and 2 per game this year than your lost showing ya spud?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The Mayor of Wanneroo/Rockingham needs to conduct an internal audit of the SBL salary cap and its enforcement

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

My mole puts up 2 and 2. Just wait and see you pleb.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Redbacks will be going back to back with that lineup. Very high caliber players. Redbacks are smart in the way they conduct their business but they are being funded Mr Major. The money man himself. They got the chip last year but thats on other teams to step up their "Do it Shady" game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't hate the players, hate the BWA/SBL By Laws and their ridiculous loopholes.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How would you fix it?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

East Perth got the Jonathan Morse. No Ketchup...Just Morse. Raw Morse.

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

Above comment is whack. WILLO 4 THE SHIPPPPPPPP DOEEEEEEE. #BOSSMANBURGERSBALIYEAHBOI

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I see 20s boys beat Victoria today

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Anon  
Earlier this year

First time WA has beat VIC in 9 years. They also beat South Australia last night

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

ALEX Ducas has played very well through 2. Will be great for the Buccs if he starts at the 1. Amazing what puberty will do, kid was 5'8 runt 2 years ago. Now 6’3 and stacking on muscle.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ducas is listed at 197cm so 6'6 now

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ducas a standout at camp in Canberra two weeks ago

No surprise.

With that group, you should see success.

18's in a similar position.

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GM  
Earlier this year

Heard on the grapevine - some clubs have been emailed by the league today asking for detailed financial statements for the seasons 2015-2017 inclusive - Namely Willetton, Perth & Joondalup. Let's hope all those 'sponsor' payments have been processed properly!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth definitely appear to be under the spotlight. Christian Rice comes in to try and clean up the joint, but sins of the past should not be wiped clean.

For those old enough (like me) to recall WA Inc.

Perth Redbacks must be emulating

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Christian is a good dude he will sort out the office stuff

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

World Academy Inc.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lakeside Men putting some pieces in place:

PG - Isenbarger
SG -Bell
SF- Morgan
PF - Cooperwood
C - Prue

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wolves - Billups, Sullivan.
Redbacks - Barrow, Roberts.
Tigers - Diagne, Bowie.
Senators - Anshila,King
Giants - Sovine, Sharpe.
Hawks - Monroe, Carlwell.
Buccs - Natesan, Colter.
Eastern Suns - Davis, Belger.
Flames - Hire, Ritchart.
Cougars - Sebirumbi , ?
Lightning - Isenbarger, Cooperwood
Magic - ? , ?
Slammers - Voelkel , ?
Eagles - ? , ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Morgan not returning for Lightning.

Suns with the best import combo?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cooperwood lol

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where has cooperwood being playing?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

he was a bit of a bust in the sbl. a lot of talk and hype but wasn't actually that good

also heard he was a fan of not training due to injury but would heal up just in time for game night

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Its not a rumour. Lakeside have signed him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Redbacks back to back this year. Fully loaded.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What teams will be a bust this year?

What teams will over achieve?

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JR  
Earlier this year

Will improve....
Buccs
Hawks
Senators
Giants
Suns

Not as good as last year....
Tigers
Slammers
Cougars


Win't change position much from 2017
Wolves
Redbacks
Lightning
Flames
Eagles
Magic

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If Hire is unrestricted and Flames can get 2 imports plus Hire good move.

If not then bad move!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wolves - Billups, Sullivan.
Redbacks - Barrow, Roberts.
Tigers - Diagne, Bowie.
Senators - Anshila,King
Giants - Sovine, Sharpe.
Hawks - Monroe, Carlwell.
Buccs - Natesan, Colter.
Eastern Suns - Davis, Belger.
Flames - Hire, Ritchart.
Cougars - Sebirumbi , ?
Lightning - Isenbarger, Cooperwood
Magic - ? , ?
Slammers - Voelkel , ?
Eagles - Morse , ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

why would hawks improve? Haven't really gained much at all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

UP
Senators - Ellis + 2 imports + Davis. Top 4.
Giants - legit 3x imports
Suns - big jump, maybe 3 or 4 spots. Davis and Belger alone are to be feared.
Lightning - add Prue, Isenbarger and Cooperwood. good juniors, maybe a place or two.

DOWN
Hawks - Monroe looks ave and DT is getting old.
Slammers - no comment.
Cougars - no Billups.

SAME
Wolves - not down so not moving.
Redbacks - not down so not moving.
Flames - downgrade on imports but add Hire
Eagles - not up so not moving.
Magic - not up so not moving.
Tigers - downgrade on Turner but more ball for offensive studs Scott and Bowie
Buccs - downgrades on imports but add Ross

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Hire restricted. Reckon we've been through this.
Hence, by your own expression - bad move.

Dice was rolled & lost.

Next

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

DOWN DOWN

Coles (apparently)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hawks will be around come playoff time. Monroe will be solid.Hes not going to be a 20/10 guy, but thats not they recruited him for.Hes going to be a solid piece for them. He will prove people wrong.Cummings is the big pickup. He has vastly improved from last season. Add in their young guys improving, the do it all vets and some leadership from Daniel Thomas and they are going to be better than some are predicting.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A potential starting 5 for hawks, from what I can tell it's more dangerous than people think.

START
Thomas
Cummings
Purser
Monroe
Carlwell

BENCH
Smith
Cassir
Hickert
Clark
Hayto

Cummings, Purser and Carlwell are all scorers in their own right. Thomas can still score on any night when needed and Monroe from what people have said is a hard worker and will scrap to get points.

The big jumpers this year will be Joondalup. They will be in first all year and pending injuries will probably win the chip with the squad they have put together this year. Domination is in store for that club. New arena, New Jerseys, New players, New Championship in 2018. WOLFPACK

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

we are now mid feb, any sbl practice matches on the cards or already played?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hire only avg 8.5mins per game so why is he restricted?

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Restricted player list set mid nbl season. Only reason hires figures have fallen is due to injury

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Little H  
Earlier this year

Hire is restricted as per the NBL list sent to clubs

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

WOLFPACK FOR JEM WOLFIE!!!!

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Hire averages 8.5 MPG and hasn't once played over 20 minutes and is restricted.

Ellis averages 11 MPG and has played over 20 minutes 4 times yet is unrestricted.

SBL lol

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Crazy! Cant even play finals makes it every worse!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hire would be unrestricted if he was playing for the wolves, genius.

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Lukosius  
Earlier this year

In regards to the SBL's Restricted Player Policy, actually knowing and stating the facts is something that is always a good start. And those facts are....

(1) The cut-off date for NBL player minute calculations is deemed by Basketball Australia, this year it was January 15th.

(2) NBL minutes played (or not played) after January 15th have no bearing on the restricted/non-restricted status of a player.

(3) As of January 15th, Greg Hire had played 10.3 NBL minutes per game, taking him over the 10mins per game threshold. This means he is a 'Restricted' player with all clubs in Australia, except the Joondalup Wolves.

(4) As of January 15th, Cody Ellis had played 7.8 NBL minutes per game, meaning he is under the threshold, and can play 'unrestricted' with any club in Australia.

It can't get any simple than that, and those who still think something's wrong obviously have no idea.

As a sidenote, as of 2019 the NBL minutes threshold will increase to 15 mins per game, which will bring it in-line with the women.

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Little H  
Earlier this year

That's the problem Lukosius, ill informed people making comment with less then zero idea of the Policy, Then again it helps them feel like a smart cookie when in fact they are a deer with no eyes.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

No people aren't debating the facts. Debating the policy. If SBL kept up with rest of Australia we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

All of the facts are known. Your bullet point structured argument doesn’t make you any more knowledgeable.

It’s just interesting that under their system it has probably worked out that they’ve got it the wrong way around. You can’t argue that over the course of the season when there is more of a sample size, Hire would be an unrestricted player and Ellis would be restricted? And it’s not even really close...

And little H. You must know everything. Apologies mate

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rocko anons having a whinge they signed Hire as an import.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

More like wolves having a cry that hire left.
Regardless of status, still a solid pick up and will play 20 plus games easy. And finals

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hire was signed under the pretence that he was Restricted. And Ellis was signed under the pretence he was unrestricted. Stirling did their due dilligence, Rockingham are now playing catch up.

At some point the league needs to draw the line and say, this is the cut off. Otherwise it implicates all teams when the actual season starts if the goal posts are constantly changing.

Hires restricted, probably skip Finals too. Deal.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

It's interesting supporters of the league don’t want more good players in the league. I love that Cody is unrestricted and Stirling can sign two imports on top of that. Love the Ross signing at Gerro. Have always loved Mandurah with Mully as an Aussie and then still able to get 2 imports. Wish Perry lakes would do same with Carlwell. Love that the Redbacks are stacked and that Etto has a team on paper that almost makes going to watch them worth putting up with his unjustified ego. It’s great for our league. More talent, especially high level Import talent the better IMO. So I’d have no issue with Rocko signing an import. They’re probably still not good enough but would be interesting to see what they get.

People fighting it obviously are scared or don’t want our league to improve. Common sense should prevail for the better of the league but who knows.

Looking forward to the season.

Top 8: Wolves, Redbacks, Hawks, Flames, Bucca, Suns, Tigers Senators in no particular order. Is a good 8 teams. (Should scrap the rest of the comp - but that’s another topic all together)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Carlwell can't become an Aussie with the snap of his fingers. Hawks and Carlwell have to follow a process set by the Government. If he could do it that easy he would already be an Aussie. It’s not like they aren’t trying to get it sorted.

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Oldtimer  
Earlier this year

Anon, I don't think it's the fact that they don't want good players in the league, it's the changing of the goalposts after the rules have been set that is the issue.

You shouldn't be able to sign a player and then lobby to have his status changed, otherwise every other club could have done the same.

When rules change after clubs have recruited, that's when people get annoyed.

I like the restricted player rule for NBL players, especially those who get constant court time.
It's stops situations where one club monopolises players as well as getting imports, which has happened in the past.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

What rules have changed?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

good luck to the clubs that get off their arse and recruit quality players into our league.
the giants and buccs have been doing it for years - every year they bring in someone who is an exciting player , the slammers have done it in recent seasons as well.
you have to spend a little money to make some money
if you can fill your stadium each week it pays for the recruiting you have done.
our pool of quality Australian players isn't that good compared to the eastern states only because of population, so for clubs who bring in eastern states players as well good luck.
well done to the redbacks, giants,buccs, flames,wolves, they have done a awesome job with promoting and recruiting in the off-season.i think the clubs to watch this season in both men and women are stirling and wolves.

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Little H  
Earlier this year

Anon 638
Apology accepted,

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anon  
Earlier this year

Carwell doesn't need citizenship just PR.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

signing hire as a restricted player still has its benefits
1. he is a known quantity both on and off the floor. he is a dominant SBL player and a high character guy around the team and the club (ie no Vinny Zollo's)
2. you don't have all the bother with flights, accommodation, visas, clearances
3. he is a mayor

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If your getting the vintage 2012 SBL version of Hire eg has free reign to play as 4/5man in SBL then he could be a good pick up.
Wildcats trying to make him 3 man (which 100% understand thats his role to make a living at NBL level).

But Rocko need him in the paint not standing around shooting jumpers and 3's.


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

whats happening with s/w slammers import to go with voekel,lay,weeden.
the s/w slammers women I believe are signing 2 imports this year maybe the club has decided to give the girls a go for a change.
still nothing out of the eagles camp.
still nothing out of the Mandurah camp other than they have chaudier pal.
Cockburn also quite .

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Carlwell is going through his PR process now. He has been for a little while now.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I would expect wildcats happy to expect hire with what he is at this stage of career..won't be pressuring for him to get playing time at the 3.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ellis will replace Hire at the 3 for Cats next season so won't matter where Hire plays in SBL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SBL fans do a great job of talking up 'how great this league is', then turn around and have a cry when teams try to bring in nbl talent and imports by carrying on about the rules.

Your league sucks cause you lot keeping making it suck.
SBL behind on the rules compared to every other league with restricting players.
SBL is behind with social media and media releases.
SBL is behind streaming games.
SBL is just behind.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Behind who exactly? We know the SBL is behind the SEABL, a basketball Australia competition.

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juggalo  
Earlier this year

Behind BigV whose teams regularly livestream on YouTube, they have radio coverage of games and their multimedia is way ahead of SBL. SBL is bush league lets be honest here and it starts from the poor management at the clubs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SBL has actually got a great product in terms of the talent on the floor. It is at the very least on par with the BigV or even above. But the league administration and club marketing is where it is let down. Some clubs do a great job of marketing and promotion which lets face it only involves a bit of social media and the like. The SBL website has gotten worse and worse over the past few years.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Basketball is a fun game to play.

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anon  
Earlier this year

QBL's coverage way better than the SBL. It is a sad state of affairs when it comes to club mgmt and that is for over half the teams in the league smh

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Do all teams in BIG V/QABL/SEABL have 2 x imports per team?

Im sure they do.

Some SBL teams still going around with 1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I love the SBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

BWA don't even have a media department or manager. It's one person running the show. Big V have 6 full time staff working on the competition.

And also, I'm not sure if you've seen the Big V website, its trash.

Its the SBL, its a semi-professional league, expect a semi-professional approach. Go back to watching Bleacher Report edits.

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

YEAHHHHHH WHAT IT IS Y'ALL!!!!!! TIGERS BEEN PRACTICING AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE LOOKING THE GOODZ. #MTAGUNGGOBOOOOM

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Suns with Timms/Belger and Davis will be big Improvers.

Horn is also serviceable.

But then absolutely zero after that!

Push the 8!

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Phil Jackson's Ring  
Earlier this year

Hey Bursto, is the penicillin working???

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Phil Jackson's Ring  
Earlier this year

Suns Men to play 2-3 Zone ALL season

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juggalo  
Earlier this year

SBL can outsource their social media/website work and not leave it up to the poor bugger in the office.

But it goes to show exactly how its bush league that the state body only put 1 person in charge to do everything while the 2nd tier comp in Vic has 6 employees.

SBL is bush league, end of story.

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

Hey Phil Jackson's Ring , yes it is. #TIGERSALLDAYBOI!!!!! #MRSSIPPYBALIHEREWECOME #BOATSHOES #CHINOSHORTS

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bush league hey?
Assume you not talking about the talent.

How would the 2017 champs in SA (Premier)/BIG V and QBL compare to SBl winners?

Be interesting to see.

I reckon SBL have them all covered.
QBL may be close game in the GF.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

QBL would kill SBL, Big V and SA similar to SBL. SBL has two actual NBL players (DP's don’t count).. both will need some luck to even get a contract next year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

QBL??
Mate look at your championship team, a 38yr old Peter Crawford leading the way.

Chris Cedar having 50pts for the losing team haha

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Exactly, some people on this site are riding QBL D*&ks hard. Very hard. Peter Crawford was the teams best player. Are you kidding me?. The dude is well well past overdue, he wouldn't be a factor in the league in the SBL. Whilst he was here at times he was a complete non factor. The SBL product is much better than given credit for on court. Some great talent. I agree the SBL need to do a much better job of staying on top of media and social media production.

Just watched Chris Cedar on you tube score 14 points in 3 minutes. My god check the pace of the game and the standard. Awful. There is a guy in there with ginger hair who looks like he's 45 years old and has a belly on him. What a joke.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

just get over it. SBL is really bad. Too many players in the league that shouldn't be playing, but thats what happens when you have too many teams in the metro area.

SBL sucks. No players in the NBL have come from the SBL is recent times. The people who glorify it are the same ones that say Tre Nichols should be playing for the wildcats.

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Western  
Earlier this year

No players from the SBL you say haha

Johnson (Adelaide - Willetton)
Gliddon (Cairns - South West via Concordia)
Loughton (Cairns - Joondalup)
Garlepp (Sydney - Perry Lakes via Cats DP)
Jervis (Brisbane - East Perth via Cats)

Good comment mate - your research is awesome

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Most  
Earlier this year

Johnson went to pepperdine after being at the AIS for two years
Gliddon never played SBL - and dislikes the coaches there at the time for not playing him. Played SEABL for AIS.
Loughton went to Old Dominion.

The only two you can claim are Garlepp and Jervis.

Just cause he is from WA doesn't mean he is from the SBL. Western might want to do some research himself.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wanneroo playing Wildcats

Might have to take a look given all the buzz around the Wolves list this & venue season

they get it right up north

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DaHuzyBru  
Earlier this year

"Gliddon never played SBL" - that is incorrect. Gliddon played 5 games for the Slammers in 2006 and 6 games in 2009

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Snoopy Graham  
Earlier this year

This is all the evidence you need - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Graham_(basketball)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lol yeah the SBL really made Gliddon the player he is in a half size dozen games haha

Wolves not playing Wildcats! It's there academy group. Wildcats wouldn’t risk their team playing those scrubs.

Your sbl sucks

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

QBL haha!
SBL would beat them by 20 plus!

PC still playing and dominating at 38yrs old. Thats a classic.

But yeah your leagues awesome!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Redhage is your best player and he isn't far off 38 himself

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So that Paul Graham scored 82pts and it was to only TIE the scoring record of the SBL? Wow, what a bush league.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lee Roberts is the best player in that team.

Even so Redhage to PC come on dude!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How does anyone score 82 points twice in a state league unless it's bush grade. Point proven.

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Anonomous  
Earlier this year

Graham went on to have an NBL and NBA career. He would have got 100 every game playing in your shit league.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 and Kobe scored 81 in NBA games, does that make the NBA a bush league? stupid argument, if you dont rate SBL, fine get off the this thread and go back to your own thread

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nope sbl sucks.
Won't leave the thread.
Just like untalented hacks won’t leave your league.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How many SBL followers would be looking at a QBL thread hahah zero!!

Enjoy our league mate!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

OK troll, what an exciting life you have following threads on leagues you dont like!

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

Watching SBL gets me moist, watching QBL doesnt even touch the sides, nuff said

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You should consider a QBLX to make your league more exciting.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

can anyone remember ron nunelly in the premier league , he must have had some 70 point or 80 point games. is that a bush league to then

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Gypsy  
Earlier this year

Watching Noerdick in the gym working his mini biceps makes you moist Bursto. This is not one of those opposite jokes either like calling a tall guy "tiny". His biceps are actually tiny and claims to be large. Plz stahp it. Anyhoo, Willetton will not be gewd.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

lets not forget jarrad prue was an sbl product and won an NBL championship

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Senators just made Anshila official via FB

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lel  
Earlier this year

eh, did Prue really win a championship?!? C'mon, he played 3 early-season games in place of Knight in October/November 2013. I don't think he'd claim to be an NBL championship player

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pretty sure he played more like 6-9.. and he has the ring as well.

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lel  
Earlier this year

he played in 3 of the first 6 games http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=197067030&client=0-189-12314-276108-19755590

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Doesn't count the games he was signed but didn't hit the court.

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lel  
Earlier this year

yep, like I said, he played in 3 of the first 6 games. He was active for 6 games, played in 3...

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Anon  
Earlier this year

NBL season done,

Greg Hire 8.8 Mpg

Cody Ellis 11.3 Mpg (including 7 DNP's)

One is restricted, one isn’t...

I understand there’s a policy in place. But surely each case is addressed independently. Common sense is not so common.

Interesting league with interesting people making the calls behind the scenes. Clearly with no interest in making the league better.

Rocko can’t have another import to go with their largely inexperienced team but Perth can sign people using an academy no one cares about to hide the $$$ ... interesting league, interesting decisions.

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

WILLO CUMMIN THRU AGAIN!!!!! MITCH CLARKE BACK ON BOARD!!!! OUR TEAM IS LOOKING THE GOODS BOIS. #JIMBARANBAY

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Lukosius  
Earlier this year

Re Greg Hire & Cody Ellis, I don't know why it keeps coming up and is questioned....

- The cut-off date for NBL player minute calculations is deemed by Basketball Australia, and this year it is January 15th. Same goes in the SEABL.

- NBL minutes played (or not played) after January 15th have no bearing on the restricted/non-restricted status of a player.

- As of January 15th, Greg Hire had played 10.3 NBL minutes per game, taking him over the 10mins per game threshold.

- As of January 15th, Cody Ellis had played 7.8 NBL minutes per game, meaning he is under the threshold.

When it comes to anything like this, a line has to be drawn, and has been drawn (on January 15th).

Just because Greg Hire gets injured and plays less minutes after January 15th, and just because Cody Ellis' teammates get injured and he plays more minutes after January 15th, doesn't mean you move that line.

And if you did then it would be Stirling's supporters kicking up a fuss, and not Rocko's.

As a sidenote, from what I have heard the Flames recruited Greg knowing full well he would likely be restricted.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What a ridiculous arbitrary date.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Regular season ended 18 Feb yet they use a random date of 15 Jan... lol. BA are morons.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

You're right, they should leave it until after the grand final in late March.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No, as that discriminates against players not in the playoffs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

and I know you were trying to make a point but it was a flawed one.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

The two biggest criticisms I've seen in this thread is that it's unfair to have teams recruiting players with no way or knowing if they're going to be restricted or not, and that the cutoff is too early.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

God you guys are a bunch of babies. Clubs want it this way so that they can plan for who they sign and when. If they have to sit around and wait for the end of the season then people already at the club are in limbo and so are potential imports.

And before you come back with 'duh no it doesn't have to the end of the season, it can be another date'.. well then that would just be another arbitrary date then wouldn't it you dumbasses.

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Lukosius  
Earlier this year

There is a very legitimate reason why the cut-off date is early/mid January - And that is so teams (SBL, SEABL etc) can plan their recruiting, particularly with imports.

If the cut-off was, say, 1st March, and a team wanted to recruit an NBL player who is hovering around 10mins per game, then they would have to hold off on signing an import until the Aussie recruit's minutes were confirmed.

As someone who has been involved in recruiting imports for many years, I can assure you that the last thing an SBL team wants to be doing is looking for imports two weeks before the season starts, after the NBL player they wanted ends up averaging over the threshold. Particularly considering it can sometimes take up to 2 months to get an import cleared to play.

The mid-January cut-off gives an SBL club time to change tact if the Aussie NBL player finishes above the threshold, and they decide to get an import instead.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

the sbl changed the decision with corbin wroe, if i was rockingham i'd be at least giving it a shot with greg hire and reminding them they've done it before

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

They didn't really change anything for Wroe, they just used sensible math.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

SBL season is too long, shorten it like they are doing over east which will help move the cutoff date later.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Now we are complaining about the season being too long? My god, lets just get rid of the season all together then yeah. Apparently no good products, the season goes for too long, lets do everything over East is doing.

I imagine the Perth Wildcats use that similar approach. Big Dog Trev sitting there saying we better do what the Sydney Kings are doing this year and lets replicate that cause WA doesn't know how to do anything basketball wise.

Like seriously get off the East Cock PE*%S and stop commenting if you have no general interest in the SBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It actually make sense to shorten the season to less weeks Just have more double headers .
You would get more NBL players willing to play if the season was shortened it would make the competition better and you might Even see a better D1 comp as more experience players would want to play that For a longer comp.
It's does burn players and staff of these teams out as your pretty much getting a 2month break between end of season and preseason .
That doesn’t include planning meeting and recruitment

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Paleale  
Earlier this year

Wildcats don't have to copy teams from over east. They just make their squad up with players from there. Where do you think Trev and Matt Neilsen are from? All that goes against your argument.

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Little H  
Earlier this year

You cant shorten the season, its already cramped enough for the country teams.
Currently the Giants play 7 weeks on the road and one of those road trips is a home game and away game at Gero.
IF you shorten the season with the same amount of games it would mean a double header at home for Gero and The Giants (Friday night? or Sunday? Which team will do that, my guess is NONE), make the country teams play 2 triple headers on the road? I don't think that is at all fair, or play one home game and 1 away game for 3 weekends. Logistically this is close to impossible and putting a huge extra expense on the already heavy finances it takes to run the country clubs.
It was the players that wanted the break at Easter so that put the pressure back on the country clubs to fit an extra game in on what used to be a one off when Gero played the Giants.
If you wanted to shorten the season then you would have to go to confrences and play less games, we saw how that worked out in the 90s. A shambles I say.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

or do as QBL and play triple headers. And don't say you can't do that, as the QBL travels further distances than the SBL.

Doesn't bother me. If you simple folk that keep your league from progressing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"play triple headers" yeah the product of games would be amazing by the third game wouldn't it? laughable! That makes no sense. Would love to know what Plebs make these comments. If they are actual players in the league, lets see how you are going on court the past few years or this season.

Anyone in their right mind would not want more triple headers, just to make a shorter season. Two games a week is plenty enough and the league has had no issues. Imagine the fan base of those teams for triple headers. Expect fans to show up three days over Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Country teams cannot just play triple headers as it comes down to finances, its a large expense to have people in hotels over night all the time, along with travel expenses. If you don't like the SBL and you're a QBL lover, then head on over to the QBL site and have a chinwag.

So QBL basically has one thing and thats some streaming coverage which back in 2009 ad 2010, the SBL did have with game of the week streaming over the internet, with commentators and scorers etc. It was just no longer feasible. Why stream it and get even less people through the door?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Geraldton and Goldfields each regularly played triple headers for several years over the June long weekend. For various reasons, one being the now very iconic back to back games between the two clubs (I'd love to know of any other semi professional league in the world where two games between the same two clubs are held over two consecutive nights - 1,100km apart from each other. I don't think your precious QBL offer that challenge!?) But where were we - yes for various reasons, neither club play the triple headers any more.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What about a format like this:

All teams play each other once. When it hits the all star game weekend, we determine the top 8 and bottom 6

Then from there, the top 8 play against each other and bottom 6 against each other.

Which means top 8 play only 7 games ,while bottom 6 play only 5 games.

This will make the level of competition consistently high and will be a hard game each week, the level of basketball won't go down.

Then we could do the same system as the AFL finals for both top and bottom divisions.

In that case we will finish the season before Aug.

Or we could start the season end of April to get more NBL players and more imports to the SBL easier.

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Little H  
Earlier this year

How can some teams playing less games than others be fair? What if you were in 9th due to 1% point (as head to head Is not used) you play less games and cant make finals? Am I missing something with your logic.
Also it is unfair on the country teams who have to arrange travel and accommodation at the start of the season. By your format the country teams wont know about the 2nd half of the year until mid season. Also considering most teams do not own and operate their stadiums the availability of stadiums is required 6 months in advance. So that wouldn't work.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I would be angry as hell putting in that much pre season and effort for 8 games. 20+ games in a season is not much. Been doing it now for a long time and if players are any type of athletes that aspire to NBL or College or Europe or even NBA, then they should be able to handle this.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There needs to be a change. SBL players work full time then play don't forget. I was astounded when I found out SBL pre season training began in November/December???

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JR  
Earlier this year

Okay, the Blitz is just over a week away and round 1 starts in 3 weeks. Lets start naming potential starting fives....

# = Import/Restricted

WOLVES
C - Billups #
PF - Huntington
SF - Clausen
SG - Iliadis
PG - Sullivan #

BUCCS
C - Wundenberg
PF - Ralph
SF - Colter #
SG - Ross
PG - Natesan #

SENATORS
C - Litterick
PF - Ellis
SF - Anshila #
SG - Coburn
PG - Wroe

TIGERS
C - Diagne #
PF - Bowie #
SF - Scott
SG - Black
PG - Armour

REDBACKS
C - Vigor
PF - Roberts #
SF - Barrow #
SG - Hussey
PG - Wagner

HAWKS
C - Carlwell #
PF - Purser
SF - Monroe #
SG - Cummings
PG - Thomas

GIANTS
C - Sovine #
PF - Martin
SF - Reid
SG - Sharpe #
PG - Holloway

SLAMMERS
C - Weeden
PF - Reynolds #
SF - Voelkel #
SG - Puot
PG - Lay

EAGLES
C - Morse #
PF - Easley/Tawhiti
SF - Manyang
SG - Williamson
PG - Tupaea

FLAMES
C - Ritchart #
PF - Hire #
SF - Beard
SG - Griffin
PG - Godfrey

EASTERN SUNS
C - Davis #
PF - Timms
SF - Belger #
SG - Horn
PG - Diaz

LIGHTNING
C - Prue
PF - Cooperwood #
SF -
SG - Bell
PG - Isenberger #

COUGARS
C - Sebirumbi #
PF - Holmes
SF - Field
SG - Van Lit
PG - Chan

MAGIC
C - Pal
PF - Mullenax
SF -
SG -
PG - Ballantyne

Feel free to fill in the blanks, or correct the line-ups.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Puot not returning to Slammers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I reckon young Rowan Mackenzie might start for Lakeside at the 2, making big strides

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Div 1 MVP Benjamin Lee moved over to Lakeside too, plays the 2/3

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's scary to see where the Lightning will be in 3 years when Grida, Ferguson, Shervill and Mackenzie fill out.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's scary to see where the Lightning will be in 3 years when Grida, Ferguson, Shervill and Mackenzie fill out.

1 guy out of the 4 you mentioned are playing for Lakeside.

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Simon Petersen  
Earlier this year

Benjamin Lee is not at Lakeside.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Simon Peterson is overseas.
He does not post on this forum.
Benjamin Lee is at Lakeside.
He was at the stadium yesterday in a Lakeside Polo.

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Lakeside Ref  
Earlier this year

Correct, Peto is overseas with his mail order bride. Ben Lee is at Lakeside and expecting to play decent minutes. The Church will have a better team than last season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^ Pathetic comment

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

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Lakeside Ref  
Earlier this year

How is it pathetic when it is the truth? In any case, Lakeside's imports aren't looking as good as in recent years but will still put up good numbers I feel.

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Anonnnnnnn  
Earlier this year

Highly doubt Grida shervill and Ferguson will be back at the church anytime soon

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Simon met his wife 10 years ago.

Shervill will return from college this season and rejoin Lakeside.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

1 guy out of the 4 you mentioned are playing for Lakeside

Hence why I said... in 3 years

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Phil Jackson's Ring  
Earlier this year

Willo to be better off with Black as starting PG and Armour as SG. Black has better court vision, is a better passer and has a 'pass first' mentality. This will free Armour up to be a pure scorer from the 2-spot and help the Tigers' scoring efficacy this season...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So that leaves Scott as the lightest 3 man in the league.. or he comes off the bench?

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Phil Jackson's Ring  
Earlier this year

As per JR's earlier post...

TIGERS
C - Diagne #
PF - Bowie #
SF - Scott
SG - Black
PG - Armour

Lightest 3 in the league - what other option do they have @ a Cody-less Tigerland?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

how about putting armour on the bench.scott is a flat out 2 . armour is not.
ill take scott over armour all day - phil j ring

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

rockingham vs Mandurah tonight . pre-season clash in rockingham .

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The fact some idiot is talking trash about Peterson is an absolute disgrace. Keep your personal attacks to yourself you absolute pathetic excuse for a human being, Good old KEYBOARD WARRIOR!!!


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Peto AKA "the commish!"

gotta love the bloke. Was a solid role player for the Mustangs back in the day

The one player people are sleeping on at lakeside is Garbellini. Every bit as talented as Grida and Shervill but has to date not had the same level of opportunity with minutes. With the roster they have this year expect him to really make a mark

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Bursto  
Earlier this year

I don't like Peto myself, not a lot do, but yes keep it basketball related people. I have heard rumours of him being very ripped and roided up back in the day. #GOALS

The lineup for us is:

Jarrad Jackson
Armor
Scott
Bowie
Diagne

Small but highly explosive backcourt.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

very over rated backcourt

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Willetton will be running Collins a lot more this year too:

PG - Armour
SG - Scott
SF - Bowie
PF - Johnson
C - Diagne

b- J.Jackson
b- Black
b- Burston
b -Collins
b- Noordhork
b- L. Jackson

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

do SBL teams make players pay rego fees ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Aaaand senators just made King official

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JR  
Earlier this year

The last two posts under "JR" wasn't the original JR as that would be me.

Come up with your own name you suckfish!!

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JR  
Earlier this year

And in my modest, humble opinion it will be between the Wolves and the Redbacks for the title again. Willeton are still to be the great pretenders and the rest are just making up the numbers, with exception of the Hawks who I rate as a dark horse and an outside chance.

Original JR signing off simpletons!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

In a very scrappy game, Rockingham defeated Mandurah tonight 70 - 65. K Beard & Godfrey be at for the Flames whilst Magic really only had Pal inside keeping them in the game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Dark Horse. Saucy.

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JR  
Earlier this year

Has Redhage signed to play anywhere?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lakeside and Perry Lakes in a bidding war for Redhage

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lel  
Earlier this year

"Perry Lakes in a bidding war for Redhage" bahahaha no, just no

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rumour out there is that Mandurah have signed 2 imports. Shaun Stewart and Jamal Shabazz.

Stewart
Ballantyne
Julitz
Shabazz
Pal

Not a bad starting 5 but the depth after that is, well, Mandurah..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Still trash. Is Julitz even reliable? This isn't wabl

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone know anything about the Slammers two newest recruits? Justin Reynolds and I have heard they have another in town

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A quick Facebook search proves these guys are already friends with a few Mandurah guys. Has to be true.

Both shoot 40% plus from 3 too so good additions that might actually work along with Pal and young Damon

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Anonomous  
Earlier this year

Hawks play Tigers this afternoon. Might get to see who's got what. Both nearly at full strength.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wolves minus Trian and Damo lost 80-100 to the Wildcats Academy group who only had 7 players themselves.

Wolves played their main squad all first quarter to be down 2 points at the break. Then rotated their bench in the 2nd which didnt go to plan and found themselves down 49-33. After that Etto and Co. played their main squad again all the second half but it was a wrap by then with the young cats rolling the wolves.

Import guard for wolves looked average against the press. Billups was dominate though.

Grida, Callum Beard and Ben Gasper very serviceable players for the Academy team.

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Arena  
Earlier this year

So what was the Wolves' actual line-up?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Grida is more than serviceable and on a different level from the other 2 u mentioned.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

More importantly who played for the Wildcats academy? Also did any first teamers played to be ready for finals?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No NBL guys for the Academy group.

Academy
Vague, Cummings, Bragg, Grida, Beard, Casper, Melusi.


No Illiadis and no Matacz

Wolves.
Billups, Huntington, Salinas, plus their two new guys Clausen and Sullivan. Plus Ironmonger, Wellsteed, both Maxwells and a bunch of bench guys.

I know its only preseason but Wolves got shown up. Academy team had 3 development players and the rest teenagers.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

haha good reminder to show you folks how average the SBL is!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Remindwe to people that SBL guys are semi pro and are probably not even close to being in game conditioning and the wildcats development team
Is almost done with their season and at their peak...

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JR  
Earlier this year

Makes you wonder why don't the wildcats academy enter a team into the SBL? Granted the Wolves would still be a bit short of a run being older players and a month away from the season start, but I think everyone would agree the wildcats academy would be more than competitive wouldn’t they?

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lel  
Earlier this year

good hit out by the Hawks and Tigers tonight, close win by Tigs in the end. Purser and Cummings looked good for PL, while Armour and Scott were big for Willo. Bowie a bit rusty. Tyler Monroe was a bit hit and miss but showed glimpses.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bragg, Cummings, Grida, Vague as the top 4 for an SBL would be very handy. Those are 4 very good SBL players. They are all young and have had big moments in the SBL for their teams. I don't think the Wolves would be all that worried about losing to a team like that. One team is now in full season mode with full time players and one is still getting into its preseason.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lakeside beat Cockburn in a practice game Sunday.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lakeside also beat a full strength Willeton last Sunday. Vinci and Bell looking very improved. Prue dominating the boards. Lakeside could surprise a few teams this season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Haha yeah, that is all the league needs, another team in an already water down comp stealing the best 10 young players from every other club!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wolves - Jalen Billups, Brian Sullivan.
Redbacks - Maurice Barrow, Lee Roberts.
Tigers - Diagne, Bowie.
Senators - Robert Anshila, Justin King
Giants - Kyle Sovine, Jeylyn Sharpe.
Hawks - Tyler Monroe, Brian Carlwell.
Buccs - Gokul Natesan, Colter Lasher.
Eastern Suns - Kevin Davis, Courtney Belger.
Flames - Greg Hire, Josh Ritchart.
Cougars - Brandon Sebirumbi **
Lightning - Jack Isenbarger, Cory Cooperwood
Magic - Shabazz , Shaun Stewart
Slammers - Brian Voelkel , Demetrius Robinson, Justin Reynolds
Eagles - Jonathan Morse **

** 1 import

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How do the Slammers have 3?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Voelkel naturalising

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How long will that process take?? And who is Demetrius?

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Anonnnnnnn  
Earlier this year

Shouldn't Grida still be at the AIS right now????

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

wow, a lot of different imports in the league this year. it will be good viewing.
I also heard the slammers have 2 imports in the women as well- does anyone know the slammers import women.

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(Chump) Coach Mike Clarke  
Earlier this year

This forum could be really useful and relevant by sticking to a few simply rules:

1. Avoid personal attacks on individuals and clubs (eg Lakeside ref)
2. Eliminate immature posts (eg BURSTO)
3. Refrain from posting fake news
4. Stay off the SBL threads if you just want to bag it and be a hater

It's hard when people can hide behind anonymity, pretend to be someone else, and use multiple usernames, but the SBL is what it is, and can be improved, rather than undermined. If you're not brave enough to put your real name to your comments, then accept that you are a fraud and be aware that, in modern times, people can track down your true identity quite easily.

Those with ill-intent and/or character flaws can set up their own threads and spare us with a genuine interest in the SBL from having to read or filter out your nonsense.

P.S. For the last two years, I have stopped reading this tripe once the season starts for the reasons mentioned above. Some people's lives are inextricably interwoven into the SBL, so please by mindful of the impact that your trolling and bullying behaviour can have on others.

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Wolfie  
Earlier this year

STFU. Let people hate if they wish to hate. Grida should definitely consider college in the USA, surely could play in Europe one day. Bursto, Lakeside Ref and some others is probably the same person by the way.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Haha Clarke getting in early before the hate is directed at his crap team. You guys going to try avoid getting pumped by 50 this year?

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JR  
Earlier this year

Slammers with an All-American starting-5....

Lookout!!

G Lay
G Robinson
F Voelkel
F Reynolds
C Weeden

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Robinson won't start, Leary or Durnin will.

Voelkel will likely miss the first few games with playoffs in Norway and I don't think he will be an Aussie anytime soon.

Add to this the record of their head coach and it will be a tough year at the Slammers I believe

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Calling BS on Voelkel naturalising given he's not even in the country.

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JR  
Earlier this year

Last JR wasn't me either. Wouldn’t know nor even care about the Slammers starting 5.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cougars make Sebirumbi official.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That is my point, doubt he could even be considered when he isn't even here aha. Might have a rotation policy, although I can tell you Robinson is a few tiers below the other 2.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Also to keep the Women happy

Wolves - Zadina/?
Redbacks - Dyer/Standish
Tigers - ?/?
Senators - Johnson/Martin
Hawks - Farnworth/Burton
Eastern Suns - Ciabattoni/Rintala
Flames - Lloyd/Harrison
Cougars - Lee**
Lightning - Fipps/Schwagmeyer
Magic - ?/?
Slammers - van Kleef/Fisher
Eagles - ?/?

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red 74  
Earlier this year

dont think Alex Ciabattoni would be restricted...??

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

16.5 mpg

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Arena  
Earlier this year

What happened with Schwagmeyer at the Lynx this season? I thought she was close to naturalising and playing the second half with them as an Aussie?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

She has her PR, not a citizen

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

ciabattoni is a restricted player ave 17.2 mins per game this season
what does PR mean with schagmeyer? also is ash grant playing at lakeside or has she moved to Melbourne.
willeton have an import coming and ive heard kunek ?
cougars is that Keisha lee ?
magic have carly boag back.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Grant back at Lakeside along with Moyle and Byrnes.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yep Kunek at Willetton and Lee at Cockburn.

Magic have Boag and Anita Brown.

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Anonomous  
Earlier this year

PR probably means permanent residency.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Rumour going around that Garbin has made an appearance back at Flames

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes it's true just like someone said quite a while ago. Welcome back Darcee. Cool of her to fill in for a while.

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red 74  
Earlier this year

flames announced it on their FB

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red 74  
Earlier this year

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-3186-0-0-0&sID=390750&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=61186450

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LynxBack2Waves  
Earlier this year

Garbin will return to the QBL for the start of their season after Taneisha Harrison and D'Lesha Lloyd arrive

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

any news from Willo vs Hawks game?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Top 3 coaches in MSBL.

Parsons (2 x COTY, 1 x Chip in 3yrs).
Ettridge (Won 2, lost 3 chips( Losing 3 is bad record but at least your getting there.

Who is 3rd?
Ellis?

Based purely on SBL results not really a lot of contenders??

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lakovich is the best coach. He is getting NBL interest.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

HAHA honestly forgot about him!

Does he sneak in for 3rd?? If so proves not a lot of depth!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lako.

But seriously what is it with Ettridge. Seems like he chokes in GFs. As a Wolfpack fan it is very concerning.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Parsons is the best coach in the SBL. Ettridge is also very good. Ellis and Lako a distant 3rd and 4th. I think Oatman was hard done by last season. He was a good coach.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lako should have won last season with that roster.Hell Nener could have coached that group to a win. It was ridiculous. Not sure anything he did coaching wise really was the difference. He will tell you it was all his coaching though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Regarding Parsons.. are you guys just forgetting his previous stints as a coach in the league?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

For the rookies posting hating on the SBL - the BigV pre season tournament was cancelled due to lack of interest... the WASBL one is always a success.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Parsons previous stints as a coach?
Do you mean the ONE year he had at East Perth and they made playoffs in his first year and he got Drew Williamson over to East Perth to play.

They made playoffs with a winning record, then East Perth got rid of him cause he was too hard on the young kids. Our precious little young kids. Since then he's taken a Cockburn team to a well above average effort in his second year and then a championship in his third year.

Last year with Perry Lakes was a rough year with way too many injuries and now this year has recruited well and got young and old talent to join him.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I thought he only had Cougars 2015 & 2016.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

People forget that Parsons took that EP team to the playoffs in his first year after they had missed the playoffs the year before. He put together that team that would later win. He never got a chance to see it through because of the EP sooks and a Forde knifing in the back.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Now that we essentially know the 2018 teams, Round 1 predictions:

Redbacks v Lightning -
Redbacks most likely to have imports cleared to play as I believe Cooperwood is still a few weeks away. You would assumed Lako will kick the season off with a win, Redbacks by 16

Flames v Senators
Hire probably unlikely for the start of the season, and Senators second import may not be cleared yet. Still, I've got the Senators down as a Top 4 team this year, Stirling by 8 points

Cougars v Eagles
Battle of the single import teams, Sebirumbi not cleared but Jonathan Morse is. Really tough one to pick because Cougars aussies > Eagles. Cougars under Nener by 2 points.

Redbacks v Buccs
Game of the Round, Barrow vs his old squad. Buccs fresh and Redbacks on a B2B. Gero are usually pretty good with pushing through imports playing licenses, so assume a full squad for them. If Ross plays, Buccs by 5 points.

Hawks v Magic
Hawks looked real iffy against the Tigers during practise, and Monroe still finding his way. Magic probably won't have anyone cleared and Cummings to go off for 30 points. Hawks by 16.

Wolves v Tigers
Wolves also were a huge disappointment vs Wildcats DP with their full strength squad. Accounts that Billups and Sullivan weren't great, but to be fair they probably just need to shake the rust. We all know what Billups is capable of. Good chance to look at Diagne, he has length but not size on Billups, Bowie is always a beast. Wolves too big, winners by 12.

Flames v Giants
Giants along with KES are the big movers for me this year, I like them with some upgrades to Aussies and 3 imports. Giants to start 2018 in the green, win by 7 points.

Eagles v Buccs
Buccs will thoroughly outplay Eagles, have them covered at all positions. Ralph v Williamson will be a good matchup, Buccs by 24 points.

Senators v Giants
B2B for both but Senators with the 1 day break. I think this will be really evenly matched, really struggling to pick it. Senators by 5, purely based on the extra 24 hours?

Eastern Suns v Slammers
I like the Suns in 2018, and I think the Slammers will also pull off 8/9 with 3 imports (however they manage that). However I don't trust the Slammers to push through import clearances, and Davis and Belger been out here for ages. Suns play well at home and their running style will baffle Catalano. Eastern Suns by 14.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Worst kept secret in the SBL announced. Team Money Bags just re signed Redhage.

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LakaLaka  
Earlier this year

"This is another significant day for us as a club when we have someone of Shawn's stature in the basketball community making the Perth Redbacks his club of choice in the State Basketball League."

"It cements what we have been building over the last five years and aligns with the high values that Shawn and our entire playing group enjoy being a part of."

"What I have focused on in my time as coach extends further then just the on court results for our team. It has been about creating a positive environment, surrounded by positive leaders and mentors, to assist our juniors in learning what it takes to be successful and Shawn, in my opinion, is probably the best example of that in Western Australia."

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Arena  
Earlier this year

Roberts
Vigor
Redhage
Barrow
Smith
Hussey
Wagner

That's a formidable 7.

They will just keep throwing quality guys at you all night.

So who comes off the bench? My pick is Vigor & Wagner.

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Bob Sels  
Earlier this year

"... high values that Shawn and our entire playing group enjoy being a part of."

WTF are they on about? Oh wait, "high values" = $$$. Got it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lucky there is no luxury tax in the sbl or the world basketball academy would be broke

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Greeny  
Earlier this year

I'm sure the SBL will look into every teams player payments to make sure clubs aren't doing anything dodgy.
I must be needing to top up my medication, they won't look into anything, to much like work.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Yep Vigor and Wagner off the bench, Thats what you do with good, loyal club people.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Hussey should be off the bench.. but that won't happen because he wouldn't have signed there if that was the case.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Background info on World Basketball Academy please? Thanks in advance.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Yep Perth team going to be tough to beat.
$$$$ talks.

What can you do.

Some teams (Eagles/Cougars) going around with one import and others are paying maybe 7 players.

Tough to compete but it is what it is.

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Lukosius  
Two months ago

New March message thread is here.....

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/42803-wa-sbl-march-2018/

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Good to see no clubs were interested in Rhys Vague.

Chemistry killer.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

He's playing SEABL genius

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