Isaac
Last year

United vs Wildcats, Feb 16

OK, here's an interesting match-up. Melbourne have top spot but Perth might want to engineer a semi bout with Adelaide by winning and not being at the mercy of NZ's results. The Breakers have the Hawks tonight and then visit the Kings, so a fairly easy road home.

That Wildcats home loss to Cairns may prove especially damaging to Perth. Or they might do their usual and win everything regardless from whichever finals spot they take...

Your tip for tonight?

Wagstaff is out, breaking his consecutive games streak.

Prather has a fitness test prior to the game that may decide whether or not he replaces Felix in the United line up.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is Melbourne resting anyone? The odds seem a little too good for Perth who are in poor form and resting a starter.

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Hogwash  
Last year

If Melbourne are in cruise mode Perth have a chance.
Losing Wagstaff hurts the offence and puts even more pressure on Cotton and Tokoto.
I doubt Adelaide would lose to Brisbane so Melb and Adelaide could only meet in grand final.

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hoops4llday  
Last year

Can't see Melb taking this game too seriously.

Given that they've just knocked off the breakers twice in a weekend I'm sure having cats finish 3rd for them to face NZ in semis wouldn't be the worst thing.

Cats need this game, Melb dont. Cats SHOULD win, and if they don't the chance of a 3peat looks more and more less likely if they do, well they'll still be in a reasonable position to go all the way.

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skip  
Last year

Prather is in!

http://nbl.com.au/news/article/40241-prather-to-return-against-perth

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Luuuc  
Last year

Why do the Cats need this game?
Clearly we need our form to improve in general if we want to compete in the playoffs, but personally I don't think it matters at all if we finish 4th instead of 3rd. Either way we have no home court advantage in the playoffs, and either way we likely have to knock off the same 2 teams to win a title.
My hope is that not caring so much about the result will make us play more freely.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Andersen is also back for United

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paul  
Last year

Wildcats finished 3rd last year and got home-court in the GF. If NZ and Perth happen to win the SFs, I'm sure the Cats would like to have finished 3rd.

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TimberBall  
Last year

I think 3rd does matter as it does keep some hope of a home advantage in GF if there is a 1 vs 4 upset (see last year)

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Luuuc  
Last year

In theory you're correct of course.
But to me the factors at play for the Cats are a lot different this season. I don't know our true health situation though, so I shouldn't assume. (But if it is what I assume then I'd be in tank mode this weekend, with 100% of full tanking tonight and a strong chance of at least partial tanking on Sunday depending on other results and how everyone pulls up tomorrow)

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Cats 4 life  
Last year

Playing into form is the key, it's how they play and I would prefer to play Melbourne in the semis.

Then the pressure is on Melbourne in front of 10 000 + fan's expecting to win.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If I were in the Cats lineup, I'd be doing my best to avoid Melbourne in the first round. How anyone would think otherwise is beyond me. I'd much rather face Adelaide.

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hoops4llday  
Last year

"If I were in the Cats lineup, I'd be doing my best to avoid Melbourne in the first round. How anyone would think otherwise is beyond me. I'd much rather face Adelaide"

Exactly...this is why Cats need 3rd, more likely to win in Adelaide then Melb , also would take a 20% chance of a home GF vs a 0% Chance.

Prather back in you think would work in the Cats favour.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I know this year there are noticeable differences but this United team doesn't exactly have a great track record at this stage of the season.

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Em  
Last year

Melbourne won't be taking it easy - they want to keep their momentum going - goulding was interviewed about it - they finished top a couple of seasons ago and rested players in their final 2 games (which they lost to NZ) - then went out in 2 games in semi to NZ. Melb love beating Perth and I’m expecting a finals atmospheres tonight - I will be there - Go United!

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FM  
Last year

This will be interesting to see what Perth does. Either way the top 4 are clearly now the top 4 and anyone can get the W in any venue

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TimberBall  
Last year

Finals atmosphere from the 5 people who wont be at AFLX tonight at Etihad.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I agree that health is probably the main factor for Perth's performance. As Harvey said, they have no form to lose, so no reason to value these games. Better to give their key players an extended rest prior to playoffs. If they can't hustle, they have no game at all.

I'm from Perth, but glad to see United finally playing well over a period of time. It has been sad in the past, but this really looks like a different situation now.

I think Perth are really the worst of the top four at this stage.

IMO, fans trying to judge Melbourne's or Perth's prospects by their histories are misguided.

Adelaide have been playing well for a while, and NZ looked really good at times, recently. Just want to see a competitive finals series, with high quality ball.

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woody  
Last year

I like the fact that Felix and Patton will stay with the squad for the rest of the season. Felix has been a big part of Melbourne's Surge and if they do end up winning it all he should be there to celebrate with his team mates.

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Jack Toft  
Last year

The chances of tanking are high. United should cream this one in IMO.

Wagstaff out hurts Perth more than they realise. United have locked in top spot so mentally will be not thinking "this is a must win". It could actually be quite a scrappy game.

Pressure in on the Floppycats to win. They get my kiss of death

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Anonymous  
Last year

Well with the Breakers choking pretty much gurantees Perth will not be playing the United in the first round after all. It will be the Breakers who ousted them the last time they met in a playoffs series

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Anonymous  
Last year

Perth look sharp

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Anonymous  
Last year

AFLX is cringeworthy. Hope the NBL doesn't team up with the AFL

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Anonymous  
Last year

Home cooking starts off with a ridiculous tech for the entree

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Should of been a tech against Wesley.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Didn't take Casey long to slot back in

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lel  
Last year

God the cats are garbage shooters

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lel  
Last year

Trev wants to use Steindl more, but he's just so average

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holic  
Last year

Perths bench is bad. They have no depth at all.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Can Perth really still finish second or is Corey pulling a Corey

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Hoops4llday  
Last year

Best I've seen walker play in a while

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holic  
Last year

if adelaide lose and peryh wins both and maintatin there points percentage sure. highly unlikely

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Anonymous  
Last year

Except for dat dd

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Vickerman's substitution decisions are good right now

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Anonymous  
Last year

hoo hoo hoo dat mid range

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holic  
Last year

Worst defensive team since 2009. They are garbage

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holic  
Last year

Cats defensive team

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holic  
Last year

Cats defensive team

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

That little knee/hip when guarding Casper at the halfway line was just so Damian Martin...

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Peak Damo

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lel  
Last year

Steindl is so shit, ffs

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Anonymous  
Last year

You used to be good CLINT

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holic  
Last year

Hack a Boone could be tactic used in the playoffs

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbourne awesome coaching and great bench really killing it so far

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

This right here is the lineup they need Prather in.

No Ware or Wesley. Need Prather alongside CG

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holic  
Last year

Brandt is so useless. Coocke Jr deserves to be getting alot of his minutes but Gleeson is an idiot

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Luuuc  
Last year

Casper .. what a shot

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbourne will die by the 3 in the playoffs. All they shoot 3's.They are hot right now but the playoffs are a much tougher prospect.

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Great shooter but casper is only good enough for this league.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

There's a decent gap between Carrick and Casey's defence.

Carrick is the best wing defender the league has seen in many many years

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lel  
Last year

feck off Ware

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Cooke can't finish otherwise he'll be rocking.

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bullets  
Last year

I agree with who said those long balls in the playoffs is not a wining strategy.

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Benno  
Last year

Too many O boards for Perth! Melbourne have got to step it up!

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holic  
Last year

Perth's defence is really average something past Cats teams prided themselves on..

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Anonymous  
Last year

LOL @ holic
Great call about Brandt buddy

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Anonymous  
Last year

We all know what Holic is short for

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Anonymous  
Last year

Holicide?

:p

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Hoops4llday  
Last year

I get that umpires make a lot of mistakes but seriously a tech the wrong way, and 2 three pt shooting fouls that wernt there l.

That's 7 points.makes it impossible to win

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Anonymous  
Last year

Mid range Moller burning us

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J  
Last year

Yeah the two three fouls thatvwerent there really hurt. Then again so does leaving wesley wide open time and time again

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Anonymous  
Last year

Excuses excuses. Cats just not very good.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Dammit Walker

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lel  
Last year

garbage basketball from cats, cant shoot for shit

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

If people are thinking all United does is shoot threes, then they're sorely mistaken. That has been the difference between the United of the first half of the season and the United of now. Using all of the floor

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J  
Last year

That was not over the back come on

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Luuuc  
Last year

United using all of the net. Cats using a lot of the rim.

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Anonymous  
Last year

lol
16 free throws to 6
But if this game was in Perth, there is zero chance it would be this way.
Just goes to show the referees in the nbl are nothing more than glorified cheer leaders

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holic  
Last year

Gleeson was/is average coach who got ba gig of a lifetime when he got a prime Cats team.

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AngusH  
Last year

Steindl has turned into Blanchfield, just shoots it every time he gets it, open or not.

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Anonymous  
Last year

United= lets chuck up threes ..

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

This is pure therapy for United tonight. Vibin'

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Luuuc  
Last year

LOL Vickerman ... perfect view of that too

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Anonymous  
Last year

Cats are such trash. It's awesoms. Hope their arrogant fans base are really struggling to deal with this.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

+1, anon

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

You know what I want to see more of? Gleeson arguing with refs

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Anonymous  
Last year

Tokoto is frustrating. No threeball so it's so super obvious he wants to drive it in each time from the three line. Also his foul shooting... ewww.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Casper blowing by Damo just confirms it for me. He ain't right / ain't the same. Age, probably

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes Manu. He can't even stay ahead of his man.

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J  
Last year

Cottom gets hit like that all the time, thats just a bad call

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Gleeson was/is average coach who got a gig of a lifetime when he got a prime Cats team."

Slowly people are figuring this out. Akin to Lemanis.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Very disappointing performance considering NZ lost should've been a boost. No hunger for that second spot either.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Goddamn this is a good team

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Anonymous  
Last year

2nd spot LOL

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Anonymous  
Last year

Unlike Cairns.

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Funny how Goulding cries 2 minutes after getting hit. Slow brain.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Haha that was interesting delayed acting

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Anonymous  
Last year

Speaking of delayed reactions I'm still waiting for Gleeson to do something to address this slide. It's been like a month.

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Benno  
Last year

Perth are TRASH

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Adelaide is clearly favourites. This Melbourne stunt is nothing special..

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Anonymous  
Last year

ADL benefit the most from Felix going out for Prather.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Hahahaha Vague trying to guard Prather

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Boss. Moves.

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Anonymous  
Last year

97-83? WTF, the standard set by the Wildcats has eroded in the space of a month. Major shakeup in players, coaches and upper management is needed. Clean them all out.

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Timberball  
Last year

Vague is a waste of a roster spot...actually, he's a waste of oxygen

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Anonymous  
Last year

Waiting for Trev to explain how disrespectful the league and the world in general is to the cats lol 2 horse race, but it's a very very good race. Rip cats and whatever that breakers situation is.

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Anonymous  
Last year

So is this current incarnation of the Cats. Woeful.

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curious  
Last year

"the standard set by the Wildcats has eroded in the space of a month. Major shakeup in players, coaches and upper management is needed. Clean them all out." great isn't it.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbourne are stacked, not sure why people are surprised by the loss. The signing I just DO NOT GET is Steindl... He literally does nothing. He was signed as a shooter but barely hits and does nothing else. Cooke was a waste of an import spot and why they didn't upgrade when Knight went out is beyond ridiculous.
Hopefully they bounce back for Sunday.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The signing I don't get for the cats is DKD he's rarely used (Obviously suspended tonight) but he just seems useless overall

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Anonymous  
Last year

You guys are right some of the recruiting and signings have been criminal highlighted by signing Cooke AND then not replacing him.

Also Stiendl was signed because his girlfriend is playing for the Lynx. You don't sign a player just because he happens to be in town. Amateur hour.

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The Rooster  
Last year

Surely it's the refs fault?

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Anonymous  
Last year

im not sure if steindl is at fault, or is the general poor play more reflective of Gleeson not getting through to them.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Wow, Manu just confirmed an ageing player is ageing. What an insight!

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D2.0  
Last year

Apart from all the tanking talk, that was all sadly predictable.

"Vague is a waste of a roster spot"
Vague is a DP, and pretty much the pick of the bunch.

Not sure why he didn't go to College, might have been better for him than Enid Blighton.

And Yes, Damo is playing injured, has been for weeks.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why are they playing him then? Strange.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I don't get it either. I've been saying all week that our title chances - as small as they are - would benefit more from giving up on this game and resting hurt players than putting them through a home-away double.

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KET  
Last year

Melbourne are a class above. I don't see any team making it against them - Adelaide might seem the most likely but United absolutely smash the Sixers.

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Udog  
Last year

United played 6ers 3 times in the first 2 weeks of the season. Adelaide only had 2 imports and lots of injuries then. Shorter also went home due to the hurricane. Be interesting to see them match up now with 6ers fit and in form.

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Anonymous  
Last year

36ers will win the title IMO

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbourne will win unless someone goes down injured.

Any news on whether Wagstaff is playing Sunday?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Were United full strength in those games Udog? Nope. Not even close. Plus fatigue from the OKC game. Such a flog.

You were fit and in form in Melbourne later in the season, and Melbourne had control of the game, all game, until the ref decided to change the game with a BS flop call. But Adelaide short sighted 'faithful' will blame refs when your team imploded late due to being undisciplined, but it should not have even got to that point.

I'm more scared of Perth and NZ than I am of the Sixers.

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LV  
Last year

That was the role I'd hoped to see Prather playing.

Good to see new things tried- More time for Hooley, inc PG. Prather off the bench, 11 players used properly and it all fitted together reasonably well.

United has the look of a championship team about them.

Then again, it can all change in one game.

Btw who the hell were those refs? One of the worst reffed games I've seen

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LV  
Last year

Yeah I think Perth have suffered greatly from Knight 's retirement. Needed more- or something different- from Cooke's position

If JP or Cotton really get going they could still win it, but it's looking unlikely without home court advantage.

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D2.0  
Last year

I guess you go out each season to do your best and try to win. But given all the hype about a 3-peat, I expected better from Perth.

Aside from personally wanting to witness a few more home wins, I'm personally not fussed. Streak is alive, and Cats have been too dominate in recent years.
3-peat idea was presumably hyped by marketing, but I don't think they really went for it.
Lucky to have gotten what they did from Walker, and Cooke is just a spud.

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Udog  
Last year

I only said it would be interesting to see them match up now. Sorry that seems like such a horrible, offensive comment....

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Udog  
Last year

My pick is still Melbourne. They finally look good this year. About time all that financial outlay payed off anyway.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Of course it's Melbourne. Unless one or two go down for an injury between now and finals, it's curtains for everyone else.

Incredibly nervous about Sunday's game for Cats. I really hope they sneak a win but man, it's looking unlikely.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Given Perths form I'm going into the playoffs with low expectations and predicting a Melb/Adelaide final, but Perth could be a real Wildcard for the championship if things go right.

The week off will give the older guys and Damo a chance to rest up which will help defensively. If Tokoto and Cotton go into beast mode they can carry Perth offensively to a title (Brandt finding his playoff form from last year would also be handy). Plus Perth's playoff experience can't be under estimated, and Playoff Perth is a whole different beast to regular season Perth.

Like i said though, not really expecting it, but they could be a wildcard.

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paul  
Last year

Brandt in good form at the moment, Wildcats looking a little ominous, will be a great series against Adelaide if things turn out as expected.

In fact, if we get Melbourne v NZ and Adelaide v Perth that's about as good as you could ask for in the SFs.

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koberulz  
Last year

Yep, been hoping to get Adelaide back in Perth since the Teys/DKD thing, and NZ smacking a first-placed Melbourne in the semis again would be good fun.

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Anonymous  
Last year

On current form Adelaide will demolish the hopelessly out of form and to be frank short on talent Perth team.

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