Looks like a slow start to Free Agency across the WNBL. According to The Basket Case, signings to date:
Madgen's a good get for Townsville - hopefully she can come back bigger and better from her ACL injury. She certainly could press for the Opals WC side if she gets back to her pre-injury levels.
Kelly Wilson won't be coming back to Townsville and plans on playing in Bendigo or starting a family. Wiese and Mincy are open to having discussions to come back for a second season.
Megan Hustwaite tweeted the other week that the Boomers were very keen on signing Leilani to replace Liz as their 'marquee' player. I can't help but think should that occur one of Cole and Smart would have to make way. I thought coming in to the season they had too many guards to distribute minutes that they deserve, but they certainly wouldnt be able to if they add a guard the calibre of Mitchell into the mix.
Mitchell, Smart & Cole would make for a very nice guard rotation IMO, but I guess they'll also want to provide an opportunity for Conti to step up, so yeah, I guess they'll likely need to let someone go.
Cutting Smart would free up an import spot to give them more flexibility to sign a big, but with Cole's health history it might be the safer bet for them to let her go.
As a Rangers fan , I'd like to see a new coach replace Anderson
She may have been a good SEABL coach but WNBL is another level and she looks frazzelled when the going Gets tough and some of her decisions you just shake your head at
Nope time to find some new blood IMO
well done to Molloy,but talk about journalistic license lol,VCU has never exactly set the basketball world alight,but it reads well!!
good on her for realizing she had better chances in the AWFL than she was ever going to get in basketball.
and the crowds they can get at these AWFL games are just unbelievable,certainly looks like its got a big future so good choice
I think the jury is still out on how the AFLW will go, but if the AFL is committed then it certainly has the money to push it a long way (and push a lot of poorer sports out of the way in the process).
I don't know how long Chloe has been playing footy but she's a natural at it.
by 2020 they are aiming to have every a womens team with every AFL mens team to play before the men,some of the crowds are getting bigger than the mens teams,so its going to get the backing thats for sure,only have to look at the TV coverage and newspaper articles to see its over taken any other female sport,next will be the longer season and bigger wages,so other sports will be loosing out if they dont/wont/cant match it.
"and the crowds they can get at these AWFL games are just unbelievable"
What? Already shrinking Season 2 ... and 100% Free Entry. It's designed to destroy other sports. It's embarrassing the way the media and the AFL behave.
The product isn't worthy of the attention and I am sure once they start charging something for entry the crowds will disappear.
by giving free entry to a sport that needs followers they are creating fans,those same fans will continue to support what they enjoy.
AWFL gets more crowds than NBL,so think they have a half decent chance of growing the sport free entry or not,all those people eat and drink,many buy merchandise and big crowds bring in sponsors
I think Molloy played juniors then stopped to play basketball and only came back to footy last year a few months before she got drafted. Was drafted as a forward and had only really played there before the AFLW season started, so only just started to play up back but geez she's talented for someone still so raw.
But for sure it certainly looks like her move payed off - IMO if she had've stayed she would've ended up stuck coming off the bench unless she improved dramatically.
Not a bad track record from 3 season at the helm.
No idea where all this negativity comes from with Anderson - one season that's didn’t go well, plus all the injuries and suddenly she can’t coach? If she 'can’t coach’ and has delivered the results she has for Dandenong (finals 1st yr & Grand Final 2nd year - 2 out of 3 ain’t bad) then god help the rest of the coaches in the league!
I like that move by Sydney, she'll definitely add a lot of energy to that lineup which looked a bit patchy in terms of guard depth especially without Tupaea. If they could get Asia Taylor back as well I reckon they could be a pretty tenacious duo.
Look I'd be very surprised if Kunek left Perth.. Their game style suits her well and I thought I read somewhere that she said she was planning on re-signing. Though I guess if they're cutting their budget there may not be enough to pay her what she'd deserve. I hope they aren't about to become a cellar dweller like the old west coast waves.
I am surprised about Alice leaving as she certainly played well and enjoyed an amazing license to do what she wanted. Perth spent heaps last year and no chocolates so the money justifiably is wound back. I might be the odd one out here but I still believe the coaching was sub par last year especially in finals.
^agree totally, not a player I'd have imagined Chambers would pick, but if Boomers are looking to get Mitchell’s, they still have Conti fir another 3 yrs, and Cole is unlikely to move as she’s the only player that’s stayed with Molloy, then it’s probably a good move for her, but she’s going to go as one of Sydney’s imports as she’s still a USA citizen
wouldn't say that many have left since Pritchard,no more than say Rangers with Anderson last season,or Adelaide the year before. Players move,they get better offers or they dont like the coaching style or a dozen other reasons.
Plus depending on how the team does (unless of course your Boomers who seem to have found the pot of gold to pay players)the budget can rise and fall,Bendigo have been on a very tight budget for years,these women need to make a living,its a job not a hobby despite what BA seem to think.
^ not in agreeance with this post, if you speak to ex-players of Bendigo since Pritchard has been Coach they're less than complimentary about Coaching style & more specifically his strained relationships with players & his narcissistic mannerisms.
Disagree with poster above saying bad move for Ezi to college.
If she picks UConn she will be playing under a Hall of Fame coach with the best of the best at her age. She will improve quicker under Geno than having multiple coaches.
Otherwise she'll be having to go pro at a young age and playing back to back seasons in Oz and Europe.
According to Boti, the Boomers will be signing Leilani Mitchell, Cayla George and Steph Talbot and won't be re-signing Bec Cole. If that's true, that is some sort of lineup with O'Hea still contracted as well.
It'll be a shame to see Cole go, she was one of the very few who remained loyal to the Boomers from Bulleen-Melbourne and the ownership drama as well.
I'm assuming that Mansfield signing unfortunately means no Courtney Williams re-signing with Perth..
Kate Gaze is also off to Adelaide - which shocks me given that she signed with the Capitals SEABL with the intention of re-signing in Canberra, but anyway.
A bit of signing news around the past few days:
- Belinda Snell re-signed by Sydney
- Jaz Shelley (amateur contract) and Cayla George signed by the Boomers.
Really like that Shelley signing, it'll be interesting to see what she can do at the top level. Still surprised by George leaving Townsville, but Boti was right on the money with this one.
Cayla was sick of being the 2nd big banana in TVille, her game was going backwards at a high rate of knots. She wants more touches & to be the 1st big option which was never going to happen whilst Suzy B is there. As soon as Suzy B retires Cayla will sign back up with TVille as her husband's family are in Cairns.
Boomers resign Maddie Garrick
"I'm really pleased Maddie is returning. We know she is an outstanding player who, though solid through last season, didn’t hit the heights she herself expected," explained Molloy.
“However, she is unbelievably dedicated and has her own points to prove. Therefore we expect she will be a very dangerous player by the time October rolls around.”
Garrick is the eighth player to be announced by the Boomers, joining Jenna O’Hea, Cayla Francis, Jaz Shelley, Monique Conti, Chelsea D’Angelo, Ash Grant and Kalani Purcell.
Tomorrow a new player will be welcomed to the Boomers Family in yet another exciting announcement for Melbourne’s WNBL team.
Going to be a long season sitting on the bench for either De Angelo or Shelley, maybe even both
I'd say both.. I think Shelley and D'Angelo will be replacing Ott and Burton's minutes essentially.
In other signing news Shanae Greaves and Lara McSpadden are both returning for Sydney next season.
Miela Goodchild has committed to Duke University so won't be back for Townsville.
Boomers now sign Steph Talbot, another guard, hope those young ones get some cushions to sit on.
Dandenong need to sort out their coaching staff before they can get any players, hear they have been chatting to a well known name , but not sure they would be an improve or not.
Can't see Garrick starting in that lineup.. surely she would've stayed on for the chance of a championship cause she sure as hell won't be getting anywhere near the 30 odd mpg she'd been getting in previous seasons. IMO at this stage I'd think their starting 5 would be Mitchell, O'Hea, Talbot, Purcell (or import), George. Pretty damn dangerous and a fair upgrade on last season IMO.
Someone like Bec Cole to Dandenong perhaps?
"Canberra could be a contender if...
Does anyone seriously think that Tolo will be playing next season after doing her ACL in late February? There's no chance of Bec Allen landing in Canberra either. Griffin is a great signing but they've got a lot of work to do.
Yeah, a slightly unexpected signing for me. Leilani is obviously world class but they already were very strong at PG with Hurst. I would have thought they'd keep Nat and maybe look to another position to spend the big bucks on a star.
Anyway it's a fair indication that the Caps mean business. Great to have Mitchell back in the league.
Rumour has it all but Sherf (who was the only one still contracted for another year)chose to leave Canberra, something must have gone wrong at the Caps last season for that to happen. This is a great signing for Caps and squashes the Melbourne Boomers rumour mill.
Not sure if NCAAW is the best path for a player as talented as Ezi.
She will get drafted to the wnba next year (not sure of her exact age), likely in the top 5-15 or earlier.
After 4 years at an elite college she could be a top 1-5 pick.
There are risks though, injuries, getting recruited over and having minutes cut, and 4 years is a long time to be an amateur.
She will continue to develop in the wnbl, wnba and Opals program over the next few years and will be earning money as a professional during that time and could be ready for big Euro/Russia/China contracts by the time people her age are just finishing up school.
College is hyped up, it's great for those who are fringe players who would struggle to get spots in WNBL or even SEABL but for decent players they are better off staying here, they have as much chance of getting into
The WNBA if that’s their goal doing well in WNBL as they have on college, probably
More in fact
Yes they can get free college tuition, but most of the things they can study are not even recognised here so they still need to complete courses when they return
Good decision by Ezi. Who her WNBL coach is doesn't even matter. By going pro in a non-US league she is eligible to be drafted to the WNBA earlier than if she went through college, and the WNBA is where she'll get the best development. The aspects of her game that would have had the most attention at UConn are the aspects that she doesn't need any help with anyway.
WNBA won't takr players they have to develop , they want them already to
go, she’s yet to mature in her body , let the kid finish her growing
If she’s good enough it will all fall into place, think she’s made the right decision to stay but she needed a better coach than Molloy , bit of a slap in the face for Gortis though
Boomers development players are just bodies to make up numbers, Molloy couldn't develop anything, Conti "the golden child" has an army ( slight exaggeration but she has someone who wheels and deals for her) hadn’t been developed by Molloy either , she’s just constantly the poster girl, good advertising campaigns can sell anything , but when and it is when not if women’s AFL becomes a full time gig like the men’s she will have to choose , or rather her “agent” will and I doubt it will be Basketball because AWFL will pay way more
Ezi will be the same, their publishing area will promote the hell out of her , they did initially with Liz till her antics started turning people away from her
money talks and Boomers seem to now have money,and for some weird reason Molloy has managed to hang on to his coaching spot
Without Liz as the draw card though it will be interesting to see how this group go, hopefully they may be better without her but time will tell.
Anyway mods can move this thread to the Women's forum? Hard to find otherwise.
Some interesting signings! Boomers look set to be team to beat. Not sure what happening at Perth if all the funding is drying up, Bendat Boom or Bust? :/
On Conti, I did laugh a bit when on Offsiders it was suggested she was near the Opals side for CWG.
Can anyone confirm....I'm rumours there’s problems at Dandenong, players not happy with coaching and relationships strained between coach and some players. Is Anderson under contract for 2018/19 season? I’d be sorry to see her go, results for her first two seasons were excellent, last season was riddled with injuries.
Heard same thing from several people well connected to Dandenong and strained relationships not just with players but management
Yes lots of injuries last season their Spanish guard arrived injured from memory and at 38 really she was a gamble,Blicavs was a huge loss, and Lavey was only injured towards the end, they had other players who could have covered her spot but chose to bring in the assistant coach who had been retired for years rather than play her bench, that didn't sit too good from what was said around the league, plus Anderson ran her starters into the ground in such a condensed season she should have been smarter with her coaching IMO, but issues were there the season before, only got to look at player exodus
Suppose time will tell, think it’s a combination of bad recruits, loss of good players and poor coaching decisions, they may give her one more year , but also heard some former WNBL and national coaches may be in the running
Rangers have certainly lost a few players though the last few years who were longtime Dandenong players
The whispers coming out of Dandenong about strained relationships between Anderson and the playing group are certainly getting louder, I wasn't aware that included management. Somethings obviously changed, she seemed to have such a good rapport with the players when she was coaching the SEABL team. You make some good points about the injuries, player management and recruitment. At 38 the Spanish import was a huge gamble. Why they choose to bring Assistant coach Sam Richards out of retirement is beyond me, I’m sure that more than raised s few eyebrows around the league. Is Anderson out of contract or does she have one more year to go?
I thought she was signed through to the 18/19 season but maybe not
Anderson had a fabulous report with her core SEABL players as many she had played with and it extended off the court . Their is no doubting at the SEABL level they made a great team, but maybe WNBL is that step to high, their were questions when she was first appointed , perhaps it was too much pressure and without that core group who lets face it really could coach themselves they were that well oiled , that communication that's so vital wasn’t working
Have to say the few games I watched last season she looked a little lost and her assistant Kennedy looked more in control , he’s had a head coach role before at that level maybe he may be the next in line, just hope Dandenong get themselves sorted though as a whole, they have been faultering for several years as an association in general, think they need a major clean out across the board.
"Caps have signed Tolo.
I wonder how much of the season she'll actually be able to play. If it's a significant amount then they're starting to look pretty legit with Mitchell & Griffin already on board."
You'd have to assume she isn't going to play much (if at all) given she only tore her ACL in February. Sounds like the Boomers are announcing another player today. Can they go one better without Liz?
huge HUGE difference between college and WNBA/WNBL,folks just dont seem to get that,college they are playing and training against kids,and most of the time kids who will never make a team outside of college,so much hype around college players,hold off till they can go the distance against older more physical and smarter players before you shout real loud about how good they are.
I don't think that's a fair conclusion to jump to. Another explanation would be that the Caps just signed the (clear) #1 aussie point guard, so it doesn't make sense financially for Canberra, or playing-wise for Hurst, for her to sign with the same team since she's still one of the best in the league too.
I'm fairly certain I read in one of the articles re Hurst that she wanted to test out her worth in free agency as she was promised a good pay raise by the Caps previous management which I'm assuming wasn't matched by the new management (which IMO is fair enough given she won't be playing too many more seasons), Caps didn't want to wait around and see what she would do - fair enough too, and signed Leilani instead.
To date I believe they've retained Scherf (existing multi year contract), Froling and Rocci while they've lost Wehrung, Hurst, Magbegor and Gaze.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with Jarry, she has signed with Sandringham SEABL but is yet to play a game with them..
Kelsey Griffin has been waived by the Sun as she is unable to attend their training camp due to her hip injury. To be honest, that concerns me given she had supposedly recovered from that to play Comm Games, so if it's flared up again thats not good at all.
Re Perth Lynx....
With Clint Steindl still contracted with the Wildcats, you would assume Kayla Standish will be back with the Lynx.
I also heard that Alex Ciabattoni will be re-signing.
What's the go with Ali Schwagmeyer? Had a couple of cameo appearances last season as a replacement import, and at the time it was said that she was close to getting her permanent residency. She's tearing it up again in the WA SBL (as she does) and would be a very handy addition if she was classed as a non-import.
"Ash Grant also back in Perth so maybe the one season over in Melbourne was enough for her? You would think that if the Boomers were serious about keeping her, then she would be playing in their BigV team, not back here in the SBL"
I think she's just back here to be with family and friends for a bit in the off season. From what I heard she loved it there and intends on going back to Melbourne closer to the start of the season.
I guess Ash Grant kinda sorta covers the vacancy left by Olivia Thompson (who I gather is is heading back to her home state).
I hope Ali's PR has come through because things have been super quiet with recruiting any Australians to the Lynx (hopefully it's because they've been so busy deciding which WNBA talent to add)
"Haha, d'oh, looks like I responded too soon re. Grant"
Haha yeah pretty sure she's happy in Melbourne and plans to stay with them.
Actually pretty smart by the Boomers to allow her to live and play in Perth during the offseason. If Melbourne want her long term it'll help avoid any homesickness issues that a lot of sports teams get effected by with young athletes.
Melbourne doesn't have a BigV team - you may be thinking of the Bulleen Boomers however they are in no way affiliated. If there was an unofficial Boomers offseason team however it would have to be the Melbourne Tigers SEABL this season with the large contingent of present and former Boomers suiting up!
Heard lots of bad vibes at Rangers WNBL. administration has undermined the coach and team. Anderson offered a contract after three months of delays. In the meantime the administration allowed most players to become free agents. Steph Blicavs has said she is leaving. Big loss to Dandenong.
Two years ago
As a keen Dandenong supporter my clear impression of the situation at the club is coach Anderson continues to have a wonderful relationship with her players. She got the team into the finals in her first 2 seasons and had a terrible run with injuries in the 3rd season.Not a bad record considering she hasn't had the benefit of a marquis player at any time.
^ think its more than one whose not impressed with Anderson's coaching when you read through lol
Personally I think she was fabulous at SEABL level, but think maybe WNBL is a little too much pressure, SEABL it was more like a big group of friends playing, the playing group they had changed very little for several years, which brought them great success, so the question should be, was that because of the coaching, or the combination of players?
Move to WNBL , that’s a job, it’s business, and you can’t play favourites with mates if you want to win, so maybe it was player management and lack of experience at that level, poor player selection( who chooses players coach or board?) lots of injuries to contain last year, and some questionable decisions towards the ends, put it all together and it’s not what you would call ideal .
Something though has gone wrong with the formula at Rangers, they have lost players after making finals, what team does that, and they were big minute players. Clydesdale, Novosel , Scherf, their import big who had a stellar year whose name escapes me, and some handy fringe players too, now if rumours true one of their best if not the best players in Steph.
Hope they sort it out soon
Novosel is a nomad. Scherf was no loss at all. Clydesdale a shock since she has been Dandenong forever and is an excellent player. Blicavs a shock as well if true. Is it culture, money or players in need of a change of environment causing top players to leave?
re: WNBL 18/19 signings
Anderson is better than choker Molloy with marquee players. What a waste that was.
No argument there lol, the fact he's been re appointed for consecutive years is the biggest head scratcher.
Palau was a total waste, instead of grabbing a washed up injured player they would have been better letting the likes of Antoniadou get more experience off the bench, Lavey, Blicavs and Toddhunter had the main guard spots covered, they didn’t need to bring in Palau. No point sitting your players on the bench while paying someone who’s at the end of their career and too injured to play. But loosing Sarah Blicavs was a big blow, everything seemed to be constructed around her, and they just couldn’t adjust once she was out, up until that point they looked okay.
From what we know:
All here: http://www.basketcasepodcast.com.au/wnbl-offseason-tracker/
Need a big to cover Bishop leaving (she still going to Caps?) but could probably do that with Hamblin coming back too.
Steph Blicavs/Cummings should never be pursued by Dandenong (her junior club) ever again as this is the 2nd time she has left them for other pastures. Loyalty is dead & long gone in the WNBL!
Loyalty goes both ways, and the real question to ask is WHY are these longtime Ranger players leaving , don't question their loyalty, question why it changed , but then I think it’s nevoming very clear what the common denominator is
I've heard whispers around stadiums in Perth that Whitcomb will not be playing at the Lynx this season? Can anyone confirm?
I can't confirm but was hearing similar things, and wondering if it's why the Lynx had such a crazy early cut-off date for members to re-sign for next season.
It's too simplistic to put all the blame at Anderson’s feet in regards to Steph jumping ship once again (2nd time!), the last time Steph left it was because of Wright. Time for Steph to be accountable for her actions & start being a responsible adult rather than always pointing the blame at her past Dandenong Coaches. If there are issues at hand sit down in a mature & professional manner & talk them through in a calm & calculated way. Running off to join another team when the 'heat’ is on is not a terrific character trait & will ultimately reflect poorly on Steph’s reputation.
Ever thought maybe as this is their careers they go where their interests are best served emotionally financially and career wise
Think it is never just because me reason why players move but an accumulation of several areas within the program , but to slam Blicavs for leaving is out of order, it's here choice and she’s probably got very good reasons for it
Well said. Steph has given great service to the Rangers. Her form there got her to Opals selection. Perhaps she needs a change to motivate her more given the terrible season Rangers had and the lack of recruiting this year could mean an even worse outcome. The extra money I guess helps as well.
Marena Whittle has signed with the Spirit. Was on the Townsville roster last season but didn't play a game due to injury.
On Steph Blicavs, I'd suspect that move to Adelaide will mean she will be able to play basketball full time instead of juggling WNBL and her teaching career. If that is the case, you cannot begrudge her for that, Dandenong should've been paying their players, especially arguably their most or second most valuable player, better.
Interesting re Sami Whitcomb.. Are these whispers in relation to joining another WNBL club, or heading off to Europe?
Dandenong Need some signings...
Blicavs, Allen, Jarry, Kunek, Cole, Mijovic, Roberts, Reid,
Dadnong need to secure a coach first
And in all seriousness why would anyone choose a line up like that
They already have Lavey, Sarah Blicavs, Rowe and Pizzey ,
Harry is too much of a liability , Roberts was woeful last year for most part of the season , ok at SEABL but WNBL she's just not fit enough
The likes of Allen cole and Kunek will depend on the coaching staff and Reid , no way unless it’s as a DP and she’s too old for that
They need to get s coach sorted to see just who will play under that coach first whoever it is
Sydney have announced former AIS, Canberra, Adelaide & Dandenong centre Alex Bunton:
Bunton averaged 6.3 points & 4.6 rebounds with Dandenong in her last spell in the league.
What's the problem with the Administration at Dandenong? Rumours of major issues, administration unprofessional and underminding coach Anderson, taking too long to resign coach (If Anderson has in fact resigned), big name players leaving last two seasons, players reluctant to sign when they didn’t know who was coaching and general player unrest. Can anyone actually specify what exactly the issues are with the Dandenong administration or any other problems within the club? Obviously there’s some major problems.
What's the problem with the Administration at Dandenong? Rumours of major issues, administration unprofessional and underminding coach Anderson, taking too long to resign coach (If Anderson has in fact resigned), big name players leaving last two seasons, players reluctant to sign when they didn't know who was coaching and general player unrest. Can anyone actually specify what exactly the issues are with the Dandenong administration or any other problems within the club? Obviously there’s some major problem
It’s certainly not all A ok there that’s for sure,
"Kelly Wilson won't be coming back to Townsville and plans on playing in Bendigo or starting a family. Wiese and Mincy are open to having discussions to come back for a second season."
Not sure who your sources are but they are going at about 50/50.
"I think Wallace will be right up there as one of the best Australian Gs in the wnbl by the end of the season. Rookie of the year...
All depends on if she starts beside Mitchell or becomes her backup."
It will all depend on whether she's even able to get on the court this season given she did her ACL just a few months ago!
Nice import signings by Adelaide there, they look to be building a competitive roster yet again. I must say though, interesting wording at the end of the announcement.. Only mentions Blicavs and Clydesdale - iirc Seekamp was on a two year deal? Surely they would've given their reigning MVP and Opals player a mention alongside those two if she were returning.
Exactly re Wallace, doubt she will be seeing much of the first years contract on court hence why a two year deal, and she would be coming off the bench I'm sure, especially her first year. She’s a good player but their is a big leap from college which is basically un23 to playing women
On Perth I'd say the answer to who will be re-signed can be found by looking at the players from that 17/18 roster who weren't WA locals but have remained in WA to play the state league over there - i.e. Ciabattoni and Standish.
I think I bought up Bec Allen a few weeks ago as to whether we'd see her back in the league this upcoming season. She's been signed by Polish side Basket 90 Gdynia http://www.australiabasket.com/Australia/news/532508/Rebecca-Allen-(ex-Lyon)-joins-Basket-Gdynia
Massive blow for Perth with Sami Whitcomb exercising the European out clause on her contract http://www.perthlynx.com/Media/News/perth-lynx-update-sami-whitcomb
With both her and very likely Kunek gone that's a massive amount of scoring firepower out of the team. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep Williams to somewhat stem that bleeding.
Yep very good move for Sami, I always wished she'd move to one of the Melbourne based teams one day so I could see her live more often but I guess there's always the chance she'll come back to play WNBL eventually.
It looks pretty bleak for the Lynx as it stands now with Mansfield being the only player officially on their books (still no Andy Stewart re-signing either from what I've observed).. it's pretty slim pickings on that free agents list in terms of the Australians left on the market. IMO they should have an Asia Taylor type very high on their recruitment shopping list.
Updated 2018/19 WNBL squads after recent signings and defections:
Dandenong have also signed Rachel Jarry http://www.basketball.com.au/news/wnbl/4735-exclusive-dandenong-rangers-add-dual-olympian-rachel-jarry
A quote at the bottom of that article by Larissa Anderson implies that Todhunter is coming back too, while she is not officially signed as of yet.
I'd say at this early stage all of the teams who have just about completed all of their signings look to be shaping up very nicely. I think we'll be in for a great, tight season yet again!
Also last off season I tried to keep a little summary going of how & where each team's signings were performing in the offseason - here's what I could find for the signings as at 31/5 (if I remember / have time I'll try and get these updated monthly)
Nia Coffey (Las Vegas - WNBA) 28 mpg, 16 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.7 bpg
Kayla Alexander (Indiana – WNBA) 14 mpg, 5.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.4 apg, 0.8 bpg
Lauren Nicholson (Launceston – SEABL) 37 mpg, 24.1 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.4 bpg
Kate Gaze (Canberra – SEABL) 30 mpg, 22 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 5.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.2 bpg
Steph Blicavs (Kilsyth – SEABL) 27 mpg, 16.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.4 bpg
Chelsea Brook (Sturt – SA PL) 32 mpg, 19.4 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 1.7 apg, 1.9 spg, 1.3 bpg
Nicole Seekamp (South West – QBL) 29 mpg, 19.8 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 7 apg, 4.8 spg, 0.5 bpg
Nadeen Payne (Bendigo – SEABL) 30 mpg, 23.9 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.3 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.1 bpg
Marena Whittle (Nunawading – SEABL) 29 mpg, 17.9 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 1.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.3 bpg
Kara Tessari (Bendigo – SEABL) 25 mpg, 12.4 ppg, 2.1, rpg, 2.8 apg, 1 spg
Abigail Wehrung (DV – SEABL) 32 mpg, 10.6 ppg, 4 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.3 bpg
Nat Hurst (Sunshine Coast – QBL) 40 mpg, 23.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 7.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.2 bpg
Leilani Mitchell (Phoenix – WNBA) 17 mpg, 3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3 apg, 0.3 bpg
Lauren Scherf (DV – SEABL) 32 mpg, 22.2 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.4 bpg
Keely Froling (Canberra – SEABL) 39 mpg, 19.8 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 3 apg, 0.8spg, 1 bpg
Maddi Rocci (DV – SEABL) 25 mpg, 10.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.5 bpg
Bec Cole (Melbourne – SEABL) 33 mpg, 25.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 4.1 apg, 2.1 spg, 0.3 bpg
Tayla Roberts (Dandenong – SEABL) 32 mpg, 20.1ppg, 11.6rpg, 2.5 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.6 bpg
Tessa Lavey (Dandenong – SEABL) 33 mpg, 13.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.4 apg, 2.8 spg, 0.2 bpg
Kiera Rowe (Dandenong – SEABL) 31 mpg, 11.1 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.4 pg, 1.9 spg, 0.2 bpg
Bec Pizzey (Dandenong – SEABL) 17 mpg, 6.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.6 apg, 1.1 spg, 0.6 bpg
Carley Mijovic (Knox – BigV) 25 mpg, 15.7 ppg, 8 rpg, 0.7 apg, 1 spg, 1.7 bpg
Lindsay Allen (Las Vegas – WNBA) 31 mpg, 6.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4 apg, 1.7 spg
Steph Talbot (Phoenix – WNBA) 9mpg, 2.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.7 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.3 bpg
Monique Conti (Melbourne SEABL) 34 mpg, 19.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.2 bpg
Ezi Magbegor (DV – SEABL) 29 mpg, 16 ppg, 9 rpg, 2.4 apg, 2.2 spg, 2.4 bpg
Chelsea D'Angelo (Kilsyth – SEABL) 26 mpg, 12.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.6 spg
Jaz Shelley (Southern Pen – BigV) 34 mpg, 20.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg, 4.6 spg, 1 bpg,
Ash Grant (Lakeside – WA SBL) 24 mpg, 15 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 2 bpg
Lauren Mansfield (Launceston – SEABL) 32 mpg, 15.6 ppg, 4 rpg, 5.6 apg, 3.4 spg, 0.2 bpg
Britt Smart (Hobart – SEABL) 31 mpg, 22.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.8 spg, 0.3 bpg
Alex Wilson (Launceston – SEABL) 37 mpg, 17 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.6 bpg
Shanae Greaves (Sydney – SEABL) 28 mpg, 14.5 ppg, 6 rpg, 1.4 apg, 0.3 spg, 0.4 bpg
Tahlia Tupaea (Sydney – SEABL) 29 mpg, 13.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.7 apg, 3.4 spg, 0.9 bpg
Lara McSpadden (Sydney – SEABL) 29 mpg, 12.3 ppg, 7.8 pg, 2 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.5 bpg
Tess Madgen (Dandenong – SEABL) 24 mpg, 9 ppg, 4 rpg, 6 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.3 bpg
Micaela Cocks (Townsville – QBL) 32 mpg, 22.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.8 apg, 2 spg, 0.3 bpg
Darcee Garbin (Townsville – QBL) 33 mpg, 17.8 ppg, 9 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 1 bpg
Casey Samuels (North GC – QBL) 30 mpg, 17.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 spg
Zitina Aokuso (Logan – QBL) 31 mpg, 17.2 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2 apg, 1.8 spg, 1.6 bpg
Mikhaela Donnelly (Logan – QBL) 39 mpg, 13.6 ppg, 5 rpg, 5.4 apg, 1.6 spg
IMO would have Farnworth starting ahead of Ciabattoni in that projected Lynx lineup if she is returning, or even Schwagmeyer seemed decent in the game she played, but yikes even if they get some serious import star power they ain't looking too great at the moment.
I saw an article which linked Bishop to return to Tarbes in France (she played there in the 16/17 season and from what I'd read enjoyed the city/club etc) which IMO makes sense given their star PF who essentially replaced Bishop last season has transferred clubs. At this stage I very highly doubt she will be playing WNBL this upcoming season.
Maybe the Lynx trawl through this forum as I said a few weeks back how they should have Asia Taylor high on their list of recruits HAHA
Very good signing for them, but I can't help but think it'll be a bit like last season for them - a very very good three main players but the rest being streaky contributors.
IMO Standish is just about a lock given her soon to be husband is contracted for the Wildcats. Then I think Farnworth, Ciabattoni & Schwagmeyer will return - Burton too if she's not intending to go over to Europe. Given their lack of signings to date I wouldn't be surprised if they headed into the season with a 9 player roster again.
"IMO Standish is just about a lock given her soon to be husband is contracted for the Wildcats. Then I think Farnworth, Ciabattoni & Schwagmeyer will return - Burton too if she's not intending to go over to Europe. Given their lack of signings to date I wouldn't be surprised if they headed into the season with a 9 player roster again."
Good signing by the Lynx, but not sure Schwagmeyer will be there unless she is a P.R.
Standish is currently a FA as far as I am aware - she certainly hasn't been announced as a signing with Dandenong. If she were to go there IMO it's a backwards step for her in terms of minutes/role as they've already got Pedersen, Mijovic & Roberts on their books.
I thought Schwagmeyer was close to PR status last season, but again could be wrong. I do agree though if she doesn't qualify they'd go for a different import.
Also worth noting that Ruth Hamblin won't be returning for a third WNBL season as she's been signed by Belgium side Castors Braine
Maddie Allen (played for Canberra in 2016/17) has been signed by Perth and Carley Mijovic has been 'officially' re-signed by Dandenong today.
To be honest I'm not entirely sold on Tomlinson's game, but hopefully this move to Bendigo allows her to string together some solid consistent performances with a greater role than she had at the Boomers.
As far as I know on Kunek she's off to Europe for their full season and won't be playing WNBL this year.
If Perth have cash to burn, why aren't they signing players or trying to get good ones before they were snapped up.
The fact there's no news from the likes of their former players like Kunek etc I think suggests they're most likely to stay or have some sort of agreement for next season, but no contract yet.
It's all speculation though, it's weird there's so little news out of them this off-season.
Boomers adding to their coaching staff too
The Deakin Melbourne Boomers have unveiled their WNBL season 2018/19 coaching staff with a new member joining Head Coach Guy Molloy's staff.
Katrina Hibbert (Lead Assistant Coach), Paul Flynn (Assistant Coach) and Nicole Howard (Head of Scouting) will again form part of the coaching staff, with former West Coast Waves and Tall Ferns coach Kennedy Kereama joining as an Assistant Coach.
For Kereama, who recently handed the reigns of the New Zealand Tall Fern’s team over to Molloy, the chance to join Melbourne’s WNBL team is an opportunity he is looking forward to.
"I am very excited to be involved with the Boomers staff, players and club this WNBL season. I have always been a big supporter and fan of what the Boomers represent. Their community engagement, marketing and professionalism on all facets is what sets them apart from all programs. I am honoured to be a part of it," said Kereama.
Wasn’t he at Rangers, that’s every year Rangers assistant coaching staff have changed
Yes Kereama was on the coaching team at Dandy last season.
I feel that for those players at Opals squad level (particularly those who aren't locks for the final 12) this season is the one where they can pursue Europe if they want to - i.e. the 19/20 season will be the one immediately before the Olympics and most players generally come home for that season to prove themselves / participate in camps etc. iirc Kunek has played in Europe post WNBL season for the past few years now, perhaps now is the time she can put together a whole season over there. On her though, I have her as a smoky to make that world cup team at the moment with a combination of luck through injuries and positional depth.
PG - Mitchell, Mansfield, Ebzery, Lavey, Donelly, Clydesdale
SG - Whitcomb, Cumming, Wallace, Seekamp, Garrick, Cole
SF - Ohea, Allen, Talbot, Blicavs, Kunek, Wilson
PF - Griffin, Smith, George, Bishop, Garbin, Mijovic
C - Cambage, Tolo, Batkovic, Bunton, Scherf, Magbegor
I think this will probably be the WC squad.
Wallace or Batkovic for the last spot.
Agreed Waves2Lynx, Sara had the worst timing to do her ACL - she could've easily cemented her spot in the Opals rotation and IMO push for WNBA camp spots this year.
At this stage if I were picking a WC 12 I'd be going
Mitchell - Mansfield
O'Hea - Ebzery - Steph Blicavs
Talbot - Allen - Kunek
George - Smith
Cambage - Batkovic
No Tolo, Wallace & Sara Blicavs with ACLs
I personally see O'Hea as more of a SG in the international scene - she was also used predominantly as a guard in the Comm Games lineup as well.
No Bishop as per this quote - 'Bishop recently decided to pull out from the Opals squad, advising that national team coach, Sandy Brondello, was extremely supportive and respectful of her decision, keeping the door open for a possible return in future. She would go on to explain that she made the decision after returning home from playing duties in Russia after reflecting on her career and life at this point' https://pickandroll.com.au/bishop-and-hurst-veteran-stars-shining-for-sunshine-coast-phoenix/
"Yes far too early to be calling any WC teams, lots can happen between now and then."
Three months away from the tournament commencing is far too early? What we do know is that none of Blicavs, Tolo or Wallace will be recovered in time for September.
Agree those lineups are as close to best team possible we'll likely have. Does highlight the forward depth problem, most of those "PFs" are bigs who'd need to play there because of fit. For the team itself, I think the likes of Magbegor will keep getting picked.
Depth list I'd include Jarry at the end in either the 2/3, but she'd be on the injury list too.
AshT, I'm not that clever, forever making spelling mistakes.
According to the BA calendar the Opals will be attending a tour/tournament/camp of sorts in China in exactly a months time, so I suppose in the coming weeks we will get a bit more clarity on the squad if/when the team for that trip is announced.
Agree Jarry has never really been at that level even taking away her propensity for injury, You can probably count Smith out with college commitments this is her senior year so nodoubt very much will they be giving her time off
If a team is required in a month, it won't have half of them available either due to WNBA commitments ( which last time they wouldn’t let them off from) and injury, may end up being a very scratchy team
It's probably a good thing if they do end up going to China that the WNBA players aren't there - they'd all be locks barring injuries for that final team, so it gives those who will be fighting it out for the remaining spots a chance to prove themselves.
It will be interesting what happens with Smith - you'd hope Stanford don't stop her from going I mean it'd be good press for the college and NCAA league to have one of their players playing at the World Cup but you never know.
IMO, the likes of Sara Blicavs and Kunek have overtaken Jarry big time. After her injuries I feel she's now a bit limited to SF which puts her back a lot in the pecking order when the other two plus Talbot & Allen can either play as a stretch PF and/or are athletic enough to potentially play more of a guard role.
so Tolo, Blicavs and Wallace in for 2020.
Batkovic retires, Kunek out, Cumming out.
Squad after 2020.
You lose Mitchell, Mansfield, Ebzery, Ohea, George. Tolo due to age.
New squad =
Fill in the blanks...
Well seems all wrong
CONGRATS it's GREEN & GOLD for Katie-Rae and Tahlia!
Alongside Co-Coach Cheryl Chambers the girls form part of the Opals team to tour China in July to compete in a Four Nation Tournament in prep for FIBA World Cup in Spain. Keep watching for more details!
Opals squad for the four nations tournament and camp has been announced - a few surprises I will admit..
I'm surprised, but great to see Tess Madgen back in the frame. She had a bit of a slow start to her SEABL season, but she pushed out a near triple double in on of her most recent games. Also surprised to see no Batkovic, surely this means no WC for her as this is supposedly the final camp. Not too sure if this clashes with College hence the Smith omission, but I hope that is the case.
Bunton's still a way off, only just re-commenced running a few weeks back. Although I do agree, Scherf's omission is puzzling given the lack of height in this squad. Looks guard stacked for mine, but I guess the guard spots are probably the ones more up for grabs than the bigs so I have no issue there if they want to test out what their guards are made of.
College will be started , the play preseason so probably why no smith
Sherf isn't slow and her SEABL statsare good, so strange omission in such a small line up
Tupaea way to slow but can nsidering Chambers is her WNBL coach that’s probably why the inclusion ,
Very strange line up unless Griffin and Kunek are playing centres
without Cambage, we are not even a top 5 team anymore.
Sure.. we should get gametime for those who will be at the WC.
Locks - Mansfield, Ebzery, Blicavs, Ohea
Possibly Kunek, Griffin(if Mitchell gets injured), Magbegor
Other than the 7 above. The rest of the spots should go to young prospects.
The others on the list have already been tested numerous times and have failed to impress.
"Tuppaea and Sherf are too slow for Chinese players. Lavey, Garbin and Magbegor are lucky to be selected. Not sure why Smith is omitted?"
Given Cambage, Tolo, Batkovic, George, Bishop, Bunton, Sara Blicavs and Smith are all unavailable, and you note Scherf is too slow, who are you selecting if Garbin and Magbegor are lucky?
Neither Payne or Mijovic play a 4/5 , Sherf does.
Sherf wasn't initially back up at Canberra , Misty Bass took starting role in second half of season
Sherf also has far better stats than Magbegor in bothnWNBL and SEAL
Seems she’s constantly overlooked
Doing very well and better than most on the opals list....
196cm C L.Scherf (1996) SEABL stats
193cm PF/C E.Magbegor (1999) SEABL stats
192cm PF/C Z.Aokuso (1998) QBL stats
189cm PF D.Garbin (1994) QBL stats
188cm SF/PF K.Froling (1996) SEABL stats
Those FT% for Magbegor & Aokuso are concerning.. To be honest though, Aokuso isn't near Opals level yet - perhaps one for the future, yes, but she needs a lot more court time in the WNBL before she makes an Opals team.
Scherf has been massive this SEABL season, hopefully the Opals staff have identified areas in her game she needs to work on so she can go and force her way into the squad in the near future.
The Lynx have gotten busy in a hurry with signings - Alison Schwagmeyer has now become a unrestricted player so they have signed her, Maddie Allen has signed last with the Captials, Standish as expected has resigned and so has Toni Farmworth. What do we think of the team so far?
Schwagmeyer will fill Thompson's role in the rotation last season and back up anywhere on the back court if needed too. Assuming they get another Whitcomb calibre import guard then they should be competitive even if unlikely to make finals.
Williams -> Mansfield
Whitcomb -> Import?
Kunek -> Taylor
Standish -> Standish
Dowe -> Allen
Burton -> re-signs?
Farnsworth -> Farnsworth
Ciabattoni -> re-signs?
Thompson -> Schwagmeyer
Carly Boag is playing SBL, maybe she's another who signs.
According to the Western Australian, Burton & Ciabattoni will be joining Whitcomb in Europe:
Carly Boag has done an ACL so she's not a Perth signing and it looks like Thompson and Williams won't be returning either.
Burton & Ciabattoni apparently are off to Europe, as well as Whitcomb and Kunek which we already knew.
I'd be surprised if Thompson made a roster this year, she didn't do overly much for Perth last season and seems to have really dropped off in the SA premier league too which is a bit of a concern.
Thompson was a powerhouse as a junior and usually dominates in premier league. Her season in seabl a few years back was anything but great. Looking st her last few roster spots in wnbl, usually starts off good but rapidly declines as her flaws come forth. Hope she can get back on track.
More likely I think
Taylor/local (they had rintalla as a training player lad year
They had a couple of young guards as dp' s last year (motti, fejo, denahey) that might take the last guard spot
Well that Lynx roster is coming together late, but it's coming together pretty strong too.
Mansfield, Ebzery & Schwagmeyer is a strong trio of non-imports to build around.
Front court still looks weak though, just like last season. Very curious to see how we round that out. With a good enough 5 this team could do some damage.
"In what universe is Asia Taylor playing as a small forward in the WNBL?
-why not? it's what she plays in the WNBA"
Except she doesn't play in the WNBA and that's why she was recently waived and hasn't been picked up elsewhere. Furthermore, you wouldn't play her on the perimeter because she can't shoot! In the WNBL, she does a great job of using her physicality in the post but she's too small to do that in the WNBA. A more realistic lineup is:
lynx game built on a lot of perimeter shooting ! not sure if their signing are going to light it up consistently as Williams and whitcomb.
im sure schagmeyer will be fine in the WNBL but don't expect her to be putting up big numbers like a whitcomb who come out of the same league WSBL. anyway good luck to the lynx , they were always going to be in the race.
lynx game built on a lot of perimeter shooting ! not sure if their signing are going to light it up consistently as Williams and whitcomb.
im sure schagmeyer will be fine in the WNBL but don't expect her to be putting up big numbers like a whitcomb who come out of the same league WSBL. anyway good luck to the lynx , they were always going to be in the race.
Updated 2018/19 WNBL squads:
Clydesdale - ???
Seekamp - ???
Blicavs - ???
Coffey - Planeta
Alexander – Davidson - Brook
Hurst – Tessari
Wehrung - McLean
Scott – Whittle
Payne – Wild
Tobin – Tomlinson
Mitchell – Rocci
Nurse – Wilson – Wallace
Froling - ???
Griffin – Young
Scherf – Tolo
Lavey - ???
Cole – Rowe
Jarry – Blicavs
Mijovic – Pizzey
Pedersen – Roberts
Allen – Conti
Talbot – Garrick – D'Angelo
O’Hea – Shelley
George – Purcell – Grant
Magbegor - Boothe
Mansfield – Heal
Ebzery – Farnworth
Schwagmeyer - ???
Taylor – Standish
??? - Allen
Tupaea – Graham
Wilson – Smart
Snell - ???
Johnson – Greaves
Bunton - McSpadden
Cocks – Donnelly
Madgen – Beck
Mincy – Samuels
Garbin - ???
Batkovic - Aokuso
Mitchell - Wilson - Rocci
Nurse - Young
Griffin - Froling
Tolo - Scherf
You'd expect Wallace to start at SG if she was fit and healthy, but didn't she do her ACL in February like Tolo?
Griffin and Froling both recovering from surgery at the moment and I'm told Scherf broke her collarbone too.
"Seriously Kelly Wilson to Canberra, haven't they got Mitchell as their PG, plus Wallace and Rocci, thought she was retiring that's why she left Townsville, !"
Kelly Wilson never retired, they didn't offer a contract and signed Madgen.
Kelly Wilson is the best pure point guard in Australia, played injured last WNBL and made some Australian team selections look second rate in SEABL.
Was CLEARLY the best player in SEABL to those watching the games. Totally dominated.
27/20 in the SEABL GF after not training all week.
A LEGEND of the women's basketball, and if BA were serious about winning Gold this year, she would be starting and setting up Cambage all game.
Any news on these SA girls??
"We could not be more thrilled to have secured Chris," Lightning and 36ers chief executive Guy Hedderwick said.
"He is going to rebuild the brand using South Australian players. This is a huge coup for women's basketball in South Australia and for the Lightning.”
“My goal is to rebuild the Lightning as a South Australian team,” [Chris Lucas] said.
Concerning for the Lynx that Kaela Davis is currently missing her 3rd WNBA game in a row due to a flare-up of her Meniere's Disease.
Lynx have signed Brittany McPhee to replace Davis
Thompson hasn't changed since u10 not a team girl and whilst she starts off well, is usually relegated to bench after a few weeks. Having said that, there was also talk from the ville she was transferring to netball. Think Elsworthy is a dp for Adelaide, but not 100% in that
Canberra - Mitchell/Wallace/Nurse/Griffin/Tolo
Townsville - Cocks/Madgen/Samuels/Mallot/Batkovic
Melbourne - Allen/Ohea/Talbot/George/Magbegor
Dandenong - Lavey/Laney/Jarry/Blicavs/Pederson
Perth - Mansfield/Ebzery/McPhee/Taylor/Allen
Adelaide - Seekamp/Blicavs/Nicholson/Coffey/Davidson
Sydney - Smart/Snell/Wilson/Johnson/Bunton
Bendigo - Hurst/Scott/Whittle/Payne/Tobin
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