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Taipans and Fearne part ways

And it's not even my birthday. Great news!

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Anonymous  
Last year

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/coach-aaron-fearne-is-expected-to-part-ways-with-taipans/news-story/3128e2b42e29e1261684aa4ebfdc24fb

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Anonymous  
Last year

Video on Taipans Facebook page.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

What are your thoughts, Podge?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Always emotional parting ways, but a new coach with a new system will help to attract young stars. Many players won't go there because of the system.

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Regardless of what people think of his style, one thing we can all agree on is that many more have achieved far far less with far more resources.

Enormous contribution to the club and basketball up here. I don't think a more passionate advocate for cairns basketball exists, and I wish he had gotten a chance to hoist that trophy he got so close too twice. He’s done more than enough to have his bright orange tie hung from the rafters.

With all the pressure and surrounding narratives that would have come with signing him again long term, I think the board made the right decision. Onwards and upwards, this opens us up to signing the Balls with Lavar coaching the team.

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Kingpodge  
Last year

The Cairns Big Ballers.

Manu, i'm 100% all in on that.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Yeah I'm feeling much the same. In all respects. LaMelo and Gelo baby, let's get it!

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

No NBL full-time spots for him by the looks.

If Illawarra don't want Bevo, they wouldn't want Fearne either. I'd like to see him replace Lemanis or Gleeson. Probably Lemanis. Wouldn't it be something... yet another from Cairns to Brisbane

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Anonymous  
Last year

No need to rehash a guy, new blood needed. Bring in Liam Flynn

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Kingpodge  
Last year

I wouldn't be surprised if he got a high level job in the US. He’s bloody highly regarded by those that count.

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Jack Toft  
Last year

I know someone will have the figures, but when I was in Cairns once (at the end of one season) the local rag trotted out some numbers as far as his win %, which had him at the top of the pack for coaches.

Anyone have his win/loss record at Cairns?

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Jack it sits at about 49.3% i think. 124w 128l

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AngusH  
Last year

I could see him being a great college coach in the US. Probably not flexible enough at the NBL level overall - gets a lot out of role players, but doesn't give his imports much freedom.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bout time!!

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Zodiac  
Last year

Fearne wasn't that flash as a pro coach but he could really find his calling as a college coach. The dictatorial, fit into my system or hit the road style.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Beginning of the end for the Cairns Taipans?

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Nah the club just got a breath of fresh air. They'll be pushing for playoffs imo next season

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Anonymous  
Last year

Haha someone said liam flynn hahaha.

He got about as much chance as marty Clarke

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Podge,

How was Mick Downer received in his time up here? Did he leave on hood terms?

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Kingpodge  
Last year

I think Micky is a bloody good bloke, if that counts. I'd love to see him back.

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Ben  
Last year

Don't want him in Brisbane. Kthxbai.

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snooch  
Last year

Don't know if this is the place for it, but how will this decision sit with the likes of Gliddon and/or McCarron?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why would you suggest Liam Flynn?

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CT  
Last year

someone did a rundown of the top 5 potential nbl coaches out there recently, Liam flynn, Shawn Dennis and mock downer were all on there.

I wonder if Pearlman will get the tap or if they'll have a bit more ambition than that.

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Twinkletoes  
Last year

Liked your summary and comments about Fearne @Kingpodge. I also think @AngusH's comment that Fearne got a lot out of role players but didn't give his imports much freedom is accurate.

When Fearne took over the club was in dire straits and somewhat of a rabble from a team point of view and he changed that. However I think it is now time for a new voice.

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CT  
Last year

agree, would like someone from outside the organisation to come in and build something new and shake things up a bit. worst move would be to bring in downer or Pearlman and get fearne 2.0.

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Kingpodge  
Last year

That grand final in year 2 was nothing short of amazing. I still pinch myself.

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Anonymous  
Last year

What about the Mt Gambier coach, five SEABL grand finals for three championships in five years?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Liam Flynn, Bahaha.

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LoveBroker  
Last year

If his win/loss ratio is really 49.3%. Does he deserve high props? Could it be interpreted as one good year with some passable and subpar seasons?

Last season the way he capitulated against the Wildcats in the SF despite having Home Court was a big flag. He also had Trice and Mitchell both decent.

I am glad his time is over, I think Cairns could do better.

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Anonymous  
Last year

49.3% for a regional team is very solid, and two GF appearances is an outstanding feat. Nonetheless, it was time for a change.

I agree with AngusH etc. He could make for a very successful College coach. Most college coaches wouldn't be able to hold their own in the QBL/Premier League/Big V, let alone NBL-level.

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LoveBroker  
Last year

There comes a time when 'we are regional', ' we are tru blu battlers' BS gets a little tiring. If the organisation is willing to accept a sub-.500 WL because of it's location they might as well shut up shop.

Perth was a shit hole in the late 80's and early nineties. Imagine if they said 49% was a success?

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skull  
Last year

Come on in Geordie....

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Hate to say it because he seems like a prick, but LoveBroker is spot on.

It's something we talked about in a thread earlier this season, and it's so true. You can't accept mediocrity

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Anonymous  
Last year

Even though the announcement was coming, he was still at the courts last night coaching the under 12 rep team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

^
Spot on correct level for him.

When other teams have Prather,Conger,Buford,Tokoto etc Fearne happily starts the season with Weigh & Kuany at the 3.... Should of been sacked there & then.
Enough of the fake love on here & move on. Bottom line is anyone selected as new coach couldn't do any worse.

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Red 95  
Last year

Sure, Cairns can do better...with more money and a better squad.
Is that happening next season?

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LoveBroker  
Last year

"Sure, Cairns can do better...with more money and a better squad.
Is that happening next season?"

Yes I believe it will happen.

On the better squad front, the league is giving Cairns a $100k import next year for FREE.

Cairns biggest dilemma here is explaining to their other 3 imports why Import #4 is making more than them collectively.

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LoveBroker  
Last year

"Regardless of what people think of his style, one thing we can all agree on is that many more have achieved far far less with far more resources."

Measuring yourself against Damopolous' United and Gaze's Kings as a yeardstick for success is a indicator you were struggling.


" I wish he had gotten a chance to hoist that trophy he got so close too twice."

He did get the chance to 'hoist that trophy', twice, he wasn't...you know....successful.


"He's done more than enough to have his bright orange tie hung from the rafters."

Absolutely there is plenty of space up there. Will it be tied as a noose or too soon?

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Proud  
Last year

I'm really intrigued by the Taipans organization and what they do to make the best of this situation. They need to play a more attractive brand and now they have the opportunity to make sure they do that.

Super sad that they didn't win a grand final series back in the day but we can't change that.

Well done to all that Fearne has done in this league, especially with a voice that's like nails on a chalk board.

I wonder what no Fearne does for Jawai as we know they are tight.

I wonder if this helps or hinders McCarron, Gliddon and Weeks staying in Cairns

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Anonymous  
Last year

He gawnnnn!

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Proud; like nails down a multi lingual blackboard.
We're in for some interesting times in the next couple of weeks to say the least ;)

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Bit of a weird situation for Cairns. Do your due diligence with coach recruitment, but do it relatively quickly so players know what they're getting into. Gliddon and McCarron won't sign until they know who's coaching them

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Kingpodge  
Last year

I wouldn't be surprised if they had a fax machine filled with resumes already, Manu. You sent your paperwork in yet?

Wouldn’t be impossible to complete the due deligence and get a coach signed before free agencies starts. I’d be surprised if any FAs in the league sign before testing their value.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Is there a rule in the NBL that covers clubs contacting free agents?

If I'm Perth and the like, I'm recruiting right now.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Yeah I have. I specialise in encouragement, rather than gameplan

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Kingpodge  
Last year

I think it's still the rule that clubs can’t negotiate with outside players till FA, though Clubs can grant players early releases when needed.
That’s why all the player movement rumours are garbage so far.

Wasn’t encouragement over game plan Joe Connelly’s plan at the kings?

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Yeah Joe and I are tight. He taught me all I know. Hence why I'm so confident in doing this job

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

I also love dressing poorly

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Oh, and I sweat a lot. All but a lock for this job

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Hahaha good ole Joe. I think he's too busy with the Big3 to apply for the Taipans job.

Thank Zeus.

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

You guys still fax applications huh?

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Kingpodge  
Last year

sorry can't reply, my beeper is going off.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

You haven't paged me in a while actually, Podge?

Did you get that Nokia you've been talking about? I'm thinking about upgrading my Commodore 64, what you think I should get?

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Kingpodge  
Last year

It's been broken, couldn’t find the vacuum resistor it needed.

I’m using a telex atm to post on hoops, it’s quite refreshing.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Haha nah dude, that's all before my time. Complete gibberish

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Hahaha yeah, I think this thread my count against our Head Coach applications..

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

I'm backing myself.

Who you going for in Perth v Adelaide? I'm actually rooting for the Cats

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Seriously?  
Last year

I like the way the 36ers play, but the brain is going with Perth. I can't tip against one of the most successful sporting franchises in the world, with the leagues MVP - even if they're coached by Trevor...

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Kingpodge  
Last year

I just want whoever wins to beat Melb...... really.... that's all i want...

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

I'm all up on the Melbourne wagon. They deserve it. Playing as a team; United, finally, after so many years.

They didn't play as much of a team tonight, but I put that down to nerves

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Yeah, that's a fair point.

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Benno  
Last year

what about matt knight?

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Benno  
Last year

I mean Matthew Nielsen hhahah

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Manu and podge

Sorry for taking so long to get back on hoops

It was a cloudy morning so the rooster couldn't read the time on my sundial.

Btw my C64 still runs the tape recorder memory.

I’ve still gotta train the carrier pigeons to find Cairns. My theodolite’s still out on loan to that young Amelia lass who’s taking it in her flying machine near the Sandwich Isles.

My son reckons he could use his inter web or drone, but I don’t trust that newfangled stuff with delivering my ability to coach young ment to put a ball in a peach basket.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Tell your pigeon it isn't so hard. You just pass the bridge, then many furlongs until you find the rolling hills. Then past the river and 17 more leagues and you have arrived.

I don't think there is an easier way to get to town

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LV  
Last year

A real lack of love for Fearne here.

His results speak for themselves. 9 seasons, 2 grand finals, 4 seasons winning 15 games or more, winning 11 games or more every single year.

He's been coaching a budget franchise who could never afford elite imports like Cotton, Ware or Randle. Instead, Fearne had to trawl through the college ranks to unearth stars like Wilbekin or Trice. And regularly found his team outbidded as they left for other clubs (Ubaka, Wilson, Trice, Dorsey....).

I'm not sure we all appreciate how tough it is for a regional team like Cairns to win a title, when they're competing against well funded outfits like Perth and United, or the Breakers with most of the NZ national team.

Here's a question- since the NBL has been fully professional over the past 25-30 years, how many small clubs have won a championship? Cairns, Townsville, Illawarra, Newcastle/Hunter etc. You've probably got close to 100 seasons there for 1 solitary win by Illawarra in 2001. Yet Fearne has gotten the Taipans very close- twice.

I think given the circumstances Fearne has done well. Good luck to him.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Do the Taipans board release an annual report?
I think you'll be surprised how much the coach & CEO are on before you cry poor.

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

I'm still finalising my app for the coaching job at Cairns. Chipping away (with chisel on stone) at my cv.

My anticipated remuneration package is in the range of 50 to 60 denarri per day with a finals bonus of 2 fatted calves.

I would have applied for the Kings job, but old mate Drewie has already taken JVGs 30 pieces of silver to sell out Sydney basketball.

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Snooch  
Last year

He didn't really need to trawl through college ranks to find Wilbekin or Trice given they went to 2 of the biggest colleges in the ncaa.
Also not sure they were "outbidded" for Trice. Think you'll find he wanted out, as did Torrey Craig.

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Greybuoy  
Last year

Didn't Joel Khalu make a plausible claim to Fearne's job just a few weeks back?
Picked up a Cairns Post on a recent trip and was a tad surprised at how undisguised his pitch was, even though presented as just 'commentary'.
Suspect Joel would have the support of at least one Board member.

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Snooch  
Last year

Not sure about that. Didn't the same article say he was overlooked for the Marlins job because he had to make peace with some people within Cairns Basketball? If anything I get the feeling he's ruffled the wrong feathers.

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Twinkletoes  
Last year

@snooch - From different comments made by Trice, Jordan Gerrans of the Cairns Post, Trice's agent and the Taipans, I got the impression that Trice would have been happy enough to return but money was the issue.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Trice's relationship with Fearne got a lot better as the season went on

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Kingpodge  
Last year

Twinkletoes, yeah that's right, I remember that article.

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PeterJohn  
Last year

"You've probably got close to 100 seasons there for 1 solitary win by Illawarra in 2001. Yet Fearne has gotten the Taipans very close- twice."

Launceston won in 1981. But they were backed by the casino there, which meant they had (for those times) plenty of money behind them.

Arguably, Canberra was a regional city when the Cannons won their titles in the 1980s. The population there was similar to the Illawarra's and Newcastle/Lake Macquarie's, and it was only 20% larger than Cairns' current population. The main differences would have been the higher socioeconomic status of residents and the label of "national capital", relative to those other areas.

Would be interesting to know Fearne's winning percentages in home and away games relative to other coaches.

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