Anonymous
Two weeks ago

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NBA rookies of year

Apart from the Australian bias with Ben, this would be highest debate for years. Both having great years, co rookies would be good result.
Recent trolling by Mitchell may be him trying too hard unless it's in fun. Argument that Simmons was in pro program with basketball full time and learning in and outs. Mitchell on other hand was actually playing in a pro style program in college, a place just as scrutinised as a pro team really. And with facilities rivalling pro times these days, Simmons may have had an advantage in learning the ropes, but at least Mitchell was playing.
Lots of very different ways they are different, Ben better rounded, Mitchell a better scorer, either way they help their team with what they do.
Maybe let them play one on one to sort out award.

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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
23:51 12 Apr 18

Reply #683614

re: NBA rookies of year

Simmons - 15.8/8.2/8.1/1.7/54.5% fg/56% ft
Mitchell - 20.5/3.7/3.7/1.5/43.7% fg/80.5% ft

Simmons better in rebounds, assists, steals, fg%
Mitchell better in points and 3pt%


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Isaac
Two weeks ago
23:54 12 Apr 18

Reply #683615

re: NBA rookies of year

I think it has to go to Simmons. 15/8/8 is pretty special for anyone let alone a rookie. But both of them have had a big impact getting their teams to a better record than was expected.


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
01:30 13 Apr 18

Reply #683622

re: NBA rookies of year

I think it has to be Simmons. That stat about him being the only player in history to average a triple double over a 10+ game winning streak is pretty crazy (he ended up averaging it across a like 15 or 16 game win streak)


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
01:39 13 Apr 18

Reply #683623

re: NBA rookies of year

Convert assists to points...

Simmons plays = 32.2pts, 8.1rbds.
Mitchell's plays = 27.9pts, 3.7rbds.


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Ricey
Two weeks ago
02:31 13 Apr 18

Reply #683624

re: NBA rookies of year

Simmons and then daylight. It's not even close.

Simmons had a near triple double (not stand padding like Westbrook) and then he helped take a bottom team to 50 wins


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
05:45 13 Apr 18

Reply #683625

re: NBA rookies of year

Simmons then daylight. LMAOOOOO. Gotta love Aussie fans


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
05:48 13 Apr 18

Reply #683626

re: NBA rookies of year

Mitchell only shoots more. Jazz got better when Rudy came back. They were 10th when without Rudy.


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woody
Two weeks ago
07:55 13 Apr 18

Reply #683634

re: NBA rookies of year

It will go to Simmons. All this stuff about Red Shirting well no one complained when Blake Griffin was Rookie of the year dod they?


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
09:36 13 Apr 18

Reply #683643

re: NBA rookies of year

I would have given the nod to Mitchell, up until Philly's win streak and Simmons' purple patch. I think the recent form will get Simmons over the line.


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Hogwash
Two weeks ago
09:43 13 Apr 18

Reply #683645

re: NBA rookies of year

Simmons will win easily.
No disrespect to Mitchell who has had a great season


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
10:50 13 Apr 18

Reply #683658

re: NBA rookies of year

Andre Ingram!


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Kr
Two weeks ago
11:52 13 Apr 18

Reply #683665

re: NBA rookies of year

Simmons definitely, this write up in picknroll says it all imo.

Oscar Robertson is the only rookie in NBA history to average at least 15 points, 8 rebounds and 8 assists. Even if you take scoring out of the equation, no one besides Robertson has even averaged 8 rebounds and 8 assists as a rookie.

Remove the rookie moniker, and Simmons' stat line looks even more remarkable. Here is a full list of players to ever average 15, 8, and 8 during a single regular season: Robertson, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook and James Harden. If the NBA kept a VIP list, these seven names would be near the very top. Simmons is in illustrious company.


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Anonymous
Two weeks ago
14:20 13 Apr 18

Reply #683704

re: NBA rookies of year

Yeah this isn't a 'biased Aussie fans' thing. Simmons should and will be ROY. At the All-Star break, there were some real questions about how much better he was actually making Philly given the numbers when he played without Embiid. But while it's mostly come against late-season, low quality opposition, he's been unbelievable during the winning streak and it did include a pretty important matchup with Cleveland. You can't possibly suggest that Cleveland didn't care about the 3rd seed and avoiding Toronto until the conference finals.

I think he's an arse for taking the approach that he has to the award, though. Him being so obsessed with winning it makes you wonder whether he could have played some last year, but sat it out in part to retain his eligibility, which would be pretty sad. I'm not sure how much he's actually matured since that twitter tantrum about missing the Boomers side.


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