Anonymous
Last week

#43111

U18 National Championships this weekend?

In Geelong.

I'm more interested in seeing who performs in the boys, than the girls.

Is there anywhere I can find the rosters for each team?

Who are the players to watch in these championships?

Thanks.

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Anonymous
Last week
13:11 16 Apr 18

Reply #684081

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

All games will be good, just check out the Basketball Australia website to see who is performing. Many that performed last year as first years are back.


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Anonymous
Last week
13:15 16 Apr 18

Reply #684083

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Is there anywhere I can find the rosters for each team?


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Anonymous
Last week
17:52 16 Apr 18

Reply #684158

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Not sure why but It doesn't look like they have bothered with the team lists that show height and D.O.B.

Looks like a preview for each team.
First team is NT.

http://basketball.net.au/under-18-championships-and-kevin-coombs-cup-preview-nt/


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Anonymous
Last week
20:06 16 Apr 18

Reply #684182

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Victorian teams to win everything and only Vic kids will make national teams and coe. No point other teams turning up.


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Anonymous
Last week
20:14 16 Apr 18

Reply #684188

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

What a fantastic idea. Cant see them doing every team at this rate.
WAM in the boys to take it out over VICM in the final. Qld North to push
VICM in the girls over SAM. NSWM a dark horse to medal.


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Anon
Last week
00:02 17 Apr 18

Reply #684231

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Vic county girls no good this year?


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Bear
Last week
08:17 17 Apr 18

Reply #684251

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Damn if some people just don't get it, it's not just about winning, for the majority of these kids it is and will be the time of their young lives and everyone needs to take a step back (take a chill pill) and give them some freedom to enjoy this incredible opportunity...


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D-train
Last week
08:51 17 Apr 18

Reply #684261

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Agreed Bear. The original poster wanted names of kids when this forum doesn't allow names for U/18 even if it starts with just names in a roster type of way it always ends in sledging or parents promoting their own kid. Leave the National squads to those that have the job - the coaches, I'm sure they have a pretty good idea now who will be around the mark.
Let the kids be kids.


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chewie
Last week
14:52 18 Apr 18

Reply #684580

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Well said Bear and D-train.

SA metro girls will be a tough unit to beat. Any team getting a W over them has earned it. Hope the kids all have awesome, injury free champs.


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Anonymous
Last week
17:46 18 Apr 18

Reply #684628

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Should be a great tournament. Girls competition will be awesome. VC, VM, NSW and Qld Nth probably top 4 tho. Don't see SAM getting there, but anything could happen.
Good luck to them all.


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Anonymous
Last week
18:05 18 Apr 18

Reply #684635

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

What's wrong with the wa womens program?
Never in the conversation as a top 5 team.


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Anonymous
Last week
18:10 18 Apr 18

Reply #684638

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Probably a lack a talent I'd say. Who have they had out West?

I know the have a girl at AIS now but who else has come through there in the last 3-4 years?

That's probably why add to that finishing 10th the last couple of 18's I think its fair to say that's why they are not in the conversation.


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Anonymous
Last week
18:18 18 Apr 18

Reply #684639

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Clarke and Deegan the only 2.

In the boys.. recently
Grida, Bowen, Beard, Ducas, Jackson, Buluk, Travers, Waters.


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Anonymous
Last week
19:10 18 Apr 18

Reply #684651

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

SAC girls lucky to win a game. Got beaten by SA Metro by 40 a fortnight ago. Really bad group with some terrible selections


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Anonymous
Last week
19:17 18 Apr 18

Reply #684652

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Every coach looks for different things they value, easy to sit back and say they got the team wrong.

I think they will be around the mark they are always at.


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Anonymous
Last week
19:26 18 Apr 18

Reply #684654

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Best girls teams
Vic c
Vic m
Nsw m
Sa m
Qld n

Not a threat
Wa m
Sa c
Wa c
Qld s
Nsw c
Tas
Act
Nt


Best boys teams
Vic m
Vic c
Sa m
Nsw m
Qld s
Qld n
Wa m

Not a threat
Sa c
Wa c
Nsw c
Tas
Act
Nt


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Anonymous
Last week
22:07 18 Apr 18

Reply #684675

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

No group of kids is a "bad group" when playing in any sports team, let alone representing their state at a national championships. Hope they do really well and over achieve beyond anyone's expectation, but in the end, so long as they do their best. That should be all anyone could or should ask.


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Last week
17:21 19 Apr 18

Reply #684864

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Is it normal practice for employees of a state's peak governing body to fill coaching positions on State Teams?

What would be the reasons for doing so?


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Anon
Last week
19:52 19 Apr 18

Reply #684904

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Which State?


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Antichrist
Last week
19:57 19 Apr 18

Reply #684908

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Im imagining 'Salty' is referring to the WA teams. Two employees on coaching staff at 18s - 1 x head coach and 1 x assistant coach. If they're the most qualified for the position where is the issue.

My question after listening to DN on the radio show, is how does only having five or six training sessions prior to a National Championships constitute an adequate preparation. That's the talking point here I think


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Jimmy V
Last week
20:45 19 Apr 18

Reply #684916

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

SA Country boys are the same but the coach in question is passionate and is the best qualified by a mile. His assistants are the same and they buy in to the process!

You want the best from your kids and you pay a big cost, so why not have the very best available.


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Anonymous
Last week
20:52 19 Apr 18

Reply #684917

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

WC spots on the line.
Players looking to impress.


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Last week
21:04 19 Apr 18

Reply #684919

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Perhaps the process did not attract enough quality applications and the two employees were seconded to these positions?

Perhaps the process facilitates cronyism?

I don't know what the qualifications are of the two employees appointed however if it was based on the most 'qualified' person being appointed then shouldn't the Head Coach of High Performance be coaching State Teams?

Just because you are a Level 2 or 3 Coach doesn't mean you are the BEST person for these roles.

From my perspective, the National Championships is still a development pathway for both coaches and players (albeit high performance) and those coaches who have achieved results in the state-based junior representative competition should be recognized and rewarded with these appointments.

Just my two cents worth...


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Anonymous
Last week
21:14 19 Apr 18

Reply #684922

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

who picks the coaches?


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Anonymous
Last week
21:37 19 Apr 18

Reply #684927

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

All just a warm up for 2019 apparently


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Anonymous
Last week
22:17 19 Apr 18

Reply #684942

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

The best will shine that's for sure. Just make sure the selectors take notice this time around as Townsville was a joke for those that did well.

BA take notice and take charge!


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Last week
23:22 19 Apr 18

Reply #684960

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

I think the coaches are selected by the High Performance Manager and possibly the Coach Development & Pathways Manager???


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Anonymous
Last week
23:42 19 Apr 18

Reply #684964

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

What sort of person labels a group of young women 'a bad group ‘ and ‘bad selections' You are a disgrace , if you want to make comments such as that maybe you should have the courage to put your name to it .


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Antichrist
Last week
00:49 20 Apr 18

Reply #684974

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Which coaches who are achieving at wabl weren't selected Salty?


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Anonymous
Last week
08:04 20 Apr 18

Reply #684982

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

NSW, TAS, ACT, QLD have all had staff coaching state teams before. Its not new or a lone WA thing.

I think I see why WA is in the dumps, they either spend too much time fighting each other or the people with no idea have too much say over there. I swear every thread turns into people from WA complaining about something, hahahhaaha.

Good luck to everyone involved this week.


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Anonymous
Last week
09:10 20 Apr 18

Reply #684994

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Something wrong with schedule?

Qld Sth women play at 7.15pm tomorrow vs nsw metro and then play another game at 11.30pm vs sa country.

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4101-0-472661-0&sID=60776


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Last week
10:31 20 Apr 18

Reply #685007

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

There are 12 associations that compete in the WABL Competition therefore I don't profess to know specific coaches who are achieving at this level however suffice to say there would be quite a few. I understand the second assistant coach of the WA Metro Women's Team is an outstanding coach and has achieved sustained success - perhaps she (as a volunteer coach) could have been rewarded with the Head Coach appointment?

What I am not privvy to is 1) was she offered the opportunity & declined or 2) is she a BETTER coach than the incumbent?

As long as the selection process for coaches is open and transparent I don't have an issue with coaching appointments - particularly if there is precedence from other states of employees being appointed to these positions. I just think the current process in WA looks like cronyism and that is not good governance nor good management from a peak governing body. It becomes counter-productive.

I would like to see a process implemented whereby the Head Coach of the Team/Association that wins the U16 or U18 age group at WABL is invited to coach the corresponding age group at the following year's National Championships.

That would be a clear and transparent process and also provides a performance pathway for coaches that creates incentive, rewards effort & recognizes performance.

Fair & reasonable.


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Anonymous
Last week
11:21 20 Apr 18

Reply #685011

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

That's not fair and reasonable at all, and makes it hard for clubs who work to develop coaches but maybe don't have the talent base to allow them to win WABL competitions to retain the coaches they develop. I'm not a WA person, but if I were moving to Perth and wanting to get involved in state coaching, and that was how the system was set up, why would I coach anywhere other than Willetton? Any coach with HP aspirations would be forced to leave their current club if they knew the age group wasn't going to be capable of winning WABL. What a ridiculous idea.

Can we go back to talking about u18 Nationals? In the boys WA Met and Vic Met should be top two in one pool with Qld N and Vic C the top in the other. If it does play out that way, there will be some great stylistic clashes come finals, with WA Met very front-court heavy and Qld N and Vic C much more reliant on their back court standouts. As good as the WA boys were for the Crocs, it's hard to go past Vic Met as the favourites given their well-roundedness.


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Last week
11:43 20 Apr 18

Reply #685013

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

I don't agree a club like Willetton has a monopoly on the U16 & U18 age groups at WABL level however you do make a valid point. I don't think it was a ridiculous idea - just an idea.

So back to talking about U18 Nationals...WA Men to win Gold this year on the back of the Crocs contingent and some OUTSTANDING shooting guards.


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Anonymous
Last week
15:20 21 Apr 18

Reply #685341

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

WA Metro with a wake up call day 1


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Anonymous
Last week
15:28 21 Apr 18

Reply #685342

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

WA not getting much from the newcomers.
Jackson with 19 and 19 in 3/4s.

Couple of qld Sth players to keep an eye on...


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Watching
A few hours ago
07:17 23 Apr 18

Reply #685587

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Vic Metro taking care of business without really getting out of first gear. Team is 10 deep with lots of rotations so should be fresher come finals.
Qld south impressing. Will see if they are for real on Wednesday against Vics.
Other side of draw is wide open. Qld north and Tasmania undefeated with vic country and nsw metro right behind them. Could be a four way draw coming out of qualifying rounds.
SA metro 0-2 and although SA country are 2-0 they haven't looked that impressive in wins.


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Anonymous
A couple of hours ago
08:30 23 Apr 18

Reply #685596

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

How come Wigness dnp?
Cordwell and Dennis have been huge for qld Sth.


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Within the hour
09:17 23 Apr 18

Reply #685604

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Indeed - WA Metro Men VERY disappointing in the first two rounds. As expected Crocs contingent has been outstanding but drop away pretty quickly after that. WA appears to lack a genuine point-guard without Bacus from U16 Tourney.

Couple of players there on 'potential' and 'reputation' and need to lift or be moved on...


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Anonymous
Within the hour
09:30 23 Apr 18

Reply #685609

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

What happened to williams from wa?


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Antichrist
Within the hour
09:30 23 Apr 18

Reply #685610

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Salty you are either an underperforming / overlooked coach who needs to get over themselves or another clueless WABL parent who spends hundreds of dollars each month on private coaching sessions for their talent-limited son, who still can't make a state squad despite your uneducated opinion.

Yes the boys haven't began the Tournament as well as they or the coaching staff obviously would have liked but the last thing they need is to see some clown from their own state laying the boot in. Show an ounce of maturity rather than just some amateurish grub-wannabe journalism putting your two cents worth in when nobody wants to hear that crap. Go back to wondering where you have gone wrong rather than criticizing others at every opportunity.


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Anonymous
Within the hour
09:38 23 Apr 18

Reply #685613

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Rantall solidifying his place in the crocs squad. Avg 27.5 pts a game early on.
Others looking to get a call up.


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Don 'Salty' Chip
Within the hour
09:38 23 Apr 18

Reply #685614

re: U18 National Championships this weekend?

Sorry Antichrist - you are correct. I am both and I apologize...


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