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Game Day: Boomers v Japan 8:40pm Fox Sports 505

8:40pm Eastern Time.

Looking forward to Delly throwing lots of lobs to Thon, and a win of course.

Go BOOMERS !!

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Anonymous  
Last year

USA lost to Mexico lol.

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Hogwash  
Last year

They did lose to Mexico but you missed one minor detail, they use a G League squad for qualifying rounds.

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Anonymous  
Last year

And they lost...
You think they will keep bringing a full g league side?
Haven't played the big nations yet in there region.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Very good. FIBA will be rubbing their hands in glee. Arrogant that USA don't feel they have to be part of the qualification process with their top team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Japan can actually match the size now. Will be interesting.

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Anonymous  
Last year

ok Carl.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is there anywhere poor people can watch the game?

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Hogwash  
Last year

Adelaide are better off without Shorter, he is a spud.

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Hogwash  
Last year

Oops wrong thread ^

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Aussie  
Last year

Is there anywhere poor people can watch the game

Foxtel. First month is free

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Anonymous  
Last year

Will be on YouTube replay within days.

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Carl  
Last year

Someone is getting obsessed with me. This is my first time to write a comment today. Hahaha. SMH. LOL.

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Zodiac  
Last year

I'm pretty sure for WC's and Olympics the previous gold medalist and the host nation get automatic entry in to the next tournament so if still the case the US as the winners of the last WC are already in regardless which would explain using a G-League team of guys like David Stockton etc.

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Anonymous  
Last year

is the game on nbl tv by any chance?

at work but want to watch

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's on Fox Sports.

oh and Carl keep pumping up Asian trash teams for my personal amusement.

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Carl  
Last year

Go on. Just so you know I'm straight. Sorry to disappoint you mate. Not my thing. Hahaha.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Zodiac how about doing some basic fact checking? Only the host nation China are automatically qualified to the 2019 World Cup.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Kay....wow.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Heal is "commentating" *vomit*

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Anonymous  
Last year

And Russell. Absolutely terrible.

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Anonymous  
Last year

We're pretty bad.

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Anonymous  
Last year

We looked solid enough until Cadee came in

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Carl  
Last year

18-13 Japan leading.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl you wish, I'm straight! Lame use of reverse psychology there. Keep dreaming.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Will you keep posting score updates when Aus are leading towards the money end of the game? I doubt it.

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AngusH  
Last year

Hachimura is the goods.

Kay... his touch around the hoop is one of the big things that scares me with him, and makes me think he's probably not worth what Perth paid for him.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Nick "400" Kay

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is Kay always this awful at the rim?

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Nick "400" Kay" - haha! I hope that catches on.

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Anonymous  
Last year

You're welcome. :)

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why is Brandt wearing a headband? LOL.

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Carl  
Last year

Don't try to hide it. I know your kinds. Haha. Sorry into woman mate. Better luck next time. Anyway Japan trash team leading 30-22 haha.

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AngusH  
Last year

Once upon a time I thought Nick Fazekas was going to be a poor man's Dirk Nowitzki.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Trash up 36-24 and Lemanis needs a timeout

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AngusH  
Last year

Wow, Kickert just jumped for a rebound.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hopefully we lose big so that lemonhead realises we cannot rely on old nbl stock.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Save us Mitch

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Anonymous  
Last year

Aus were $1.01 with the bookies before tipoff.

Now in live betting $1.50, finally value. Feast on it boys.

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Anonymous  
Last year

$1.50 for the NBA quality to take out the trash? Easiest money you'll ever make.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Japan have two ring-ins -- a white and black dude.

I thought FIBA rule was only one naturalised player?

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AngusH  
Last year

Hachimura is Japanese - father is African, speaks fluent Japanese.

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Anonymous  
Last year

That's why I posted it #739. Enjoy.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Angus ok thanks.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl I'm still here. Enjoying the game. I prefer comebacks rather than blowouts.

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Kason Jidd  
Last year

Any free streams?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Whereas you like blowing err... outs.

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Carl  
Last year

Can't wait for the excuses later on the L. Hahaha...

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AngusH  
Last year

OK Carl.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lisch and maker are also naturalised, what are you on about?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl can't stand Australia's dominance of Asia with a C-string side. He is so happy a team have managed a HT lead.

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Luuuc  
Last year


#ThisIsMyHouse

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lisch yes. Maker no as he is under 16 when came to Aus so not counted as naturalised.

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AngusH  
Last year

Naturalization rules only apply for people who change nationality after the age of 16 (...cue Thon Maker age jokes...)

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lemanis has got to go, gives everyone equal court time, they are pro athletes leave the guns on the court

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Knownuffin  
Last year

Win, Lose or draw... We have to be real with some of these selections. Kickert? What is the value of having a 35-year-old out there? Fazekas is a big v caliber big man, and DK is making him look like an NBA All-Star.

Let's think about our development as a national team and get some international games into our younger prospects. Kay/Brandt take one, play the same role do the same thing.

Thoughts..?

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Anonymous  
Last year

This thread ruined by a knob called Carl.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Who is this Fazekas dude Angus?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brandt, Maker, Kay and Kickert are getting embarrassed by Japan's 2 big men.

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Anonymous  
Last year

As I've said all along Lemanis is not a good coach.


Although being in such a weak qualifying zone means he can get away with it. He was laughing on the bench towards the end of the first half. #casual

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Anonymous  
Last year

Boomers came out thinking Japan are pure garbage when in fact they a little better than that being just straight trash.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Which can explain that first half. Let's see if their attitudes are shifted.

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AngusH  
Last year

Fazekas was a Mavs early 2nd round pick like a decade ago. Stretch 4/5 who put up good college numbers at Nevada, but never amounted to anything in the NBA. Can't remember why I was hyped about him that draft, but I expected him to be a big steal and I remember watching the summer league games and he looked fairly terrible and I never heard of him again until tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last year

kason jidd

free link here. Let me know if this is working for you.

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=9

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johnnysack  
Last year

If not for degenerative foot issues Fazekas would have had a 10 year NBA career under his belt. Just look at him run the floor - it's almost painful to watch.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Does the stream have better commentary?

Fox has Shane Heal and Matt Russell lol. :x

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Anonymous  
Last year

The commentary did point out on numerous occassions how Fazekas doesn't jump.

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Anonymous  
Last year

wait about 10 seconds for the ad to close, then click the video play button

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Anonymous  
Last year

Nick Kay's touch is just yuck.

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AngusH  
Last year

Brick Kay

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Anonymous  
Last year

"The commentary did point out on numerous occassions how Fazekas doesn't jump."

He doesn't suck either though. Unlike most of our bigs tonight. And Fake Carl.

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Anonymous  
Last year

400 bricks.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I wish Carl was fake.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Here we go. Aus odds went up to $1.99 after bad start to second half at one point now crashing down fast.

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Anonymous  
Last year

you mean trashing down fast

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AngusH  
Last year

Nick Kay and the Bad Threes

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hahahaha, nice.

$1.20 now. Hope you all feasted at the high. What a donation.

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AngusH  
Last year

Cadee on, here comes the Japan run.

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Anonymous  
Last year

So true sadly.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl any score updates?

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Gus3232  
Last year

Pure gold Angus!

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AngusH  
Last year

Haven't seen a box score, but feels like Kay is about 0-8? Has he made anything outside of a FT?

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Carl  
Last year

54-52 trash japan still leading. Just what I said on the other tread it will be a close game than the 1st one. Then you went crazy and go ballistic on me. Hahaha.

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AngusH  
Last year

Kickert put more effort into that flop than he's put into every defensive possession of his career combined up until this point.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Cadee a starting point guard in the NBL. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I feel sorry for Brisbane fans who will have to put up with his nightly atrocities lol

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl you have a short memory. I don't. When the qualifiers started last year you showed up here adamant Aus weren't that good. Then you got a rude awakening with our results owning everyone so you have toned it down a bit but still cheer against Aus every game. Every qualifying window you roll up like clockwork.

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Anonymous  
Last year

gliddon has got to be the the most overrated player, how often does he consistently hit the 3 when that's all he is good for.

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Anonymous  
Last year

McCarron's J is unreliable against a zone. He hit one three, but they’ll go on a run now. Need Gliddon, Goulding, Sobey, Thon, Brandt on

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Anonymous  
Last year

Wow we are playing soooo bad. But since it's a game in Asia zone the margin is tight despite it. LOL

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Carl  
Last year

Maybe you need to re visit the thread. All I said w/out our nba players we will be having a hard time againts the complete squad of a chinese team or the fancy phil squad. Take note compete squad not the half bath squad. You are the one who got a short term memory. Hahaha.

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's so obvious you're a pinoy with a comment like that. Keep dreaming!

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Anonymous  
Last year

These rims look and sound super hard.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl have you even watched the game or spent all night in here

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AngusH  
Last year

Has Lemanis ever watched Thon in the NBA? Not sure hitting him in the low post is playing to his strengths.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think he's watching the game, using one hand to browse this site on his phone, and the other arm is getting a great workout

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl is on here looking for love. Hoops.com.au is male dominated. Connect the dots.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Thonnnnnnnnn

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Carl  
Last year

Nice guess. But you are wrong. Don't worry the chinese team rotates their squad to 3 different sets. Can't wait for the full line up chinse team againts your so called cannot be beaten team. Hahaha. Keep dreaming.

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Anonymous  
Last year

And? Aus are using a third string/C grade team in Asia.

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Anonymous  
Last year

This is not Boomers 3rd string team or even B team. It is at least the B+ team. And it is still trailing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Thon airball three. Kay airballs below the basket. Wow, so bad.

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Anonymous  
Last year

400 misses another layup

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Carl  
Last year

With thon maker and deli. Haha. Well you are lucky there's a lot of politics in the Lebanese leagues Chinese leagues and Philippines leagues. They can't send a full line up just like youe c team. Hahaha.

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Anonymous  
Last year

"This is not Boomers 3rd string team or even B team. It is at least the B+ team. And it is still trailing."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

These Asians are very precious.

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AngusH  
Last year

NICK KAY WITH THE UNCONTESTED SHOT FROM DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BASKET

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Anonymous  
Last year

Nick "400" Kay. The 400 stands for bricks.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Embarrassment is 20 seconds away

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AngusH  
Last year

NICK KAY WITH THE wide open miss from the baseline that leads to a Japan basket.

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Anonymous  
Last year

This one is over!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why do they go for brick artist Kay for the game tying three? WTF Lemamis you spud.

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AngusH  
Last year

Classic Nick Kay.

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joshuapending  
Last year

what was that?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yesssss finally Lemanis is going to be scrutinised. Sack him!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why is Kay even out there?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Australia were $1.01 to win.

This is how bad Lemanis is!

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AngusH  
Last year

Game ball goes to Nick Kay, no question.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Delly played badly.
Thon had a good game.

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AussiePride  
Last year

Basketball is the winner in this one!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Delly played badly.
Thon had a good game.

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Big Ads  
Last year

Japan looked much better organised.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lemanis OUT! Dud coach!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lemannis can't coach.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hey keyboard warriors...just because you play NBA you are not unbeatable or awesome!! Too much faith in status compared too team.

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johnnysack  
Last year

Well done, Japan.

Sme dudes be eating crow - indeed...

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Melbourne Boy  
Last year

Can Fazekas play as a local in the NBL now he's Japanese? He's Tom Jarvis with an outside shot and better passing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

We play against 55K parochial Philippines crowd on Monday, this is a wake up call. Another loss wouldn't mind though as Lemanis I want out.

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Anonymous  
Last year

we deserved to lose. Credit to Japan.
Shows how clueless sone of the people on this forum are. 'Easy win' for us...

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AngusH  
Last year

I think Lemanis does OK when we've got all our guys available, but his selection choices with the NBL guys leaves a lot to be desired.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Maker had a great debut game for the boomers.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bookies had Aus at $1.01 dude. Lemanis choked.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Kay shoot the 3! Who in the hell diagram that play in the timeout! Longley?

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AussiePride  
Last year

This puts life into the Asian region. Shuts up arrogant and ignorant Australians who think every game is a walkover and gives the other Asians teams belief. It's all good.

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AngusH  
Last year

Def agree with AussiePride about that - a stronger Asia region is good for us long term, and a guy like Hachimura means Japan might end up being a team to push us over the next decade.

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Anonymous  
Last year

True, it spices things up. But we aren't being arrogant since we were $1.01 to win. That's like Dream Team losing to Puerto Rico at 2004 Olympics type of odds.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Aussie 1st team would beat this japanese team by 30 points.

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Anonymous  
Last year

More like 50.

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Jeff the Bookie  
Last year

Aus were $1.01 with the bookies before tipoff.

Now in live betting $1.50, finally value. Feast on it boys.


Thank$ lad$!

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Carl  
Last year

It's ok anonymous take that L. Don't be salty and keep flagging my post. Hahaha. Cry baby.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The ref was biased towards Japan as well

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Anonymous  
Last year

the reffing was completely fine. we got beat fair and square. if anything the margin is flattering.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hey Carl yes we lost. But your team is Philippines so our match up is on Monday. Good luck and see you then.

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koberulz  
Last year

Carl, random anons can't flag posts.

Grow up.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Carl I didn't flag any of your posts. That was koberulz or whoever being offended by the word gay

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Anonymous  
Last year

TIL delly and thon are third stringers

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Anonymous  
Last year

we missed Simmons, exum, bolden, ingles, baynes.

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skull  
Last year

Kay takes last two big shots? WTF
Even leading up to that I couldn't believe how much court time he was getting??
Rotations were bad...
Game plan was poor...
Lemanis was seriously out coached...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Who is your team? Don't say Japan just because they won tonight. Pretty sure you are PH.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Stunning result. I didn't see the game until the last two minutes - were Japan very good or Australia bad?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Aus were horribad.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Andrej Lemanis should be ashamed!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lemanis with a Smyth-like defeat of epic proportions. Shame on you Andrej.

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Hogwash  
Last year

Puzzled as to why Kay was the go to man down the stretch.

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ME  
Last year

What a pathetic, woeful display. And I don't want to hear about a "15 win streak" again. We should be having win streaks against Asia. Newsflash - THEY'RE NOT THAT GOOD!

Either way, we deserved to lose tonight. You've got Nick Kay out there aiming for something that isn't the ring. You've got Daniel Kickert seeing how many times he can pump fake and pivot before taking an open shot, and falling over any time someone posts him. And you've got a coach that inexplicably put Goulding on the bench right when he was making things happen.

I know it only one loss. I know we've dominated Asia. But games like this make me fear for what we're going to do when we finally level up and go to the world cup. You cannot have one of these games at the world cup or you're fucked.

And yeah, the personnel will be different, but the coaching will be the same. You see Lemanis there, laughing without a care in the world, seemingly oblivious to the fact that he's about to lead to one of the more embarrassing losses we've faced in years. Is he REALLY the guy whose going to bring us home our first medal or is he going to squander our golden generation?

And I also don't want to hear that we haven't had much time to gel either. Basically the same team has played together, on and off, consistently since before the Asia Cup last year. Yeah, Delly and Thon are kind of new additions, but they should have bolstered the team, not brought them down. They played like they all only met and heard of eachother once the ball was tipped. Actually I've seen scratch matches played by teams of fill ins with more chemistry than that.

I don't want to see Lemanis smirk smugly and rattle off a bunch of self congratulatory garbage about how it's all part of the process and litter us with excuses. The guy needs to admit that what happened tonight was simply not good enough.



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johnnysack  
Last year

A couple of things.

1. Since the inception of the B League here in Japan the performance of the national team has improved out of sight. Prior to the B League men's pro basketball was joke, something that trickled down to the national team. Players have always been skilled - they just lacked toughness, cohesiveness, and size. The new league is far higher quality - and it's showing in tonight's result.

2. Japan had to put in a good performance here win or lose, as they have a must win game against Taiwan on Monday. Having dropped the home leg against them - with a sell out game in Taipei and 2 new key players they had everything to play for.

Yeah, I know if the Boomers had their A team they would have won comfortably, but they didn't and were beaten by a well deserving team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Let's not forget that there were some big rotation changes since we last played. Creek was out, and Delly and Maker in. Even when the "ins" are talented players, it does disrupt the usual rhythm of the team. Let's give them a few games to redevelop that rhythm and chemistry before we make too many harsh assessments.

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Carl  
Last year

Finally some peope talking sense. Hahaha. Sorry I was in a business call. Anyway hopefully japan continue to improve and aus bring a complete line up into their next games/window. But yeah NBA sucks. Haha.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hachimura - Like the look of him, think he'll turn into a very solid NBA vet in the mold of Paul Pierce and similar types

Fezekas - Solid no-nonsense and good decision maker. Has found a nice home for his age and talent

Dellavedova - IMO is on his final NBA contract. Works hard but not a good enough shooter or athletic enough to stay in the NBA

Kay - hope he doesn't find his way onto the 'A squad'

Maker - Glad to see him in Green and Gold

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koberulz  
Last year

Let's not forget that there were some big rotation changes since we last played. Creek was out, and Delly and Maker in
I think the absence of Creek is a bigger deal than some would care to acknowledge.

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Kason Jidd  
Last year

Thanks for the link

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ME  
Last year

Creek is a loss, sure. I mean there are definitely minutes Creek would have played that would have been minutes Nick Kay was on the bench.


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Benno  
Last year

I agree, Delly will be out the NBA soon.

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Big Ads  
Last year

Apparently Australia is now guaranteed to avoid the USA in the final round.

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ME  
Last year

Hahaha. Yes, yes it smacks of what we did with Angola.


..... and then what we did with Turkey.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Paul Pierce was better than a "solid" player IMHO.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If you take out the NBA guys and the guys in Europe. What should the squad look like?

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AD  
Last year

"This puts life into the Asian region. Shuts up arrogant and ignorant Australians"

"Def agree with AussiePride about that - a stronger Asia region is good for us"

So Australia being shit is good for Australia??

It's neither Arrogant nor Ignorant to say that we should have won that.

It's a problem with this whole stupid system.
We have to play through this ridiculous fiasco, and because everybody knows its a joke, we're expected to do it with our 2nd~3rd string team. So its a difficult balancing act. Exactly how crap is crap enough?
How badly do we need to stink to make it interesting?

You can't put out a team featuring the likes of Sobey, Cadee, Kickert, Drmic, etc, and expect anybody to take it seriously.

Well done to Japan. They saw an opportunity (just as if we encountered an unprepared 4th-string USA team) and they went for it.

Personally, I think Australia should take the games a lot more seriously. Put together better teams, and smash the fuck out of it. Only way the system will be changed is if we reduce it to a laughing stock. Crap results like this only mean that the pin-heads will applaud it as a success.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lemanis scares me going into 2019 & 2020.

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Anonymous  
Last year

A class team
F coach

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rjd  
Last year

Forget the "sack Lemanis" crap. It's not going to happen with not many games left before the World Cup. Lemanis deserves to continue based on Rio.

Having said that, tonight he has to take a large chunk of the blame for this. The team looked disorganised. The response to the zone defense was poor. It seemed like the team didn't have much of a game plan against Hachimura and Fezekas. Hopefully this will wake up the team in preparation for the Philippines.

I thought the Boomers looked better when they pushed up the tempo. It didn't happen enough tonight. There were too many threes without exploring other options.

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Kr  
Last year

I thought our interior defence was really poor, fezekas and hachimua seemed to be able to get what ever they wanted inside and got numerous o boards. Where was Brandt I thought he would have been our best bet to counter fezekas and don't even remember seeing him on court. Thon was often out muscled or out of position playing catch-up d and kickert offers next to nothing defensively.

Well played by Japan they executed better and just looked more desperate

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AngusH  
Last year

@ AD; nope, we definitely should have won that game. It was a massive choke job. Just saying that the odd loss here and there won't do us any harm.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Interestingly, despite his scoring Hachimura was -11 last night, in the other 9 minutes Japan was +12.

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johnnysack  
Last year

The new qualifying system is great. It's good for basketball in the region as a whole. I can tell you there has been a huge buzz in the Japanese basketball community, and a game like this will reverberate in the general community. I'm sure it's the same wherever Aus and Nz go.

The reality is that outside of Australia, New Zealand, and South Korea (China is still shite in spite of popularity and money) the level of basketball being played by nat teams is still low.

Just like Oceania's entry into Asia helped raise the level of play of football in the region, the same applies to this new basketball format.

Direct qualification from Oceania was a joke. If it were like football in the old days - where we played home away against highly competent teams like Iran and Uruguay for direct entry into the tournament - fair enough.

Besides, the Boomers still need to blood a bench for the WCs (and find emerging talent in general) and these games serve a purpose for that alone.

For example: Shinoyama, Japan's game-breaking PG went from a 3rd stringer to our starter based on last night. The same can happen for any player on any team.

Its done - focus on Monday now.


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johnnysack  
Last year

Hachimura has only been with the senior team around 3 weeks or so. So, it's to be expected his plus minus might not be great. Just watching the game he took a lot of questionable hero-ball shots. That said he has the talent and tools to pull off hero-ball.

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Big Ads  
Last year

Warning:the following is a rambling observation of last night's game and makes no reference to trash or a person's sexual preference (conscious or unconscious). Thus this post may be in the wrong thread. Sorry.

The Boomers have qualified for the second round so last night's game, and the next against the Philippines, are meaningless in respect to Australia qualifying for the World Cup.

If anything these games are a trial to see who has the goods to make the cut when more overseas based players come back to the program in the coming months.

Japan on the other hand needed to win to keep its hopes alive and playing in front of a supportive home crowd, it had everything to lose. Furthermore, its failure to win a game back in February had a major impact on a very proud national program. The Japanese were primed for last night, the Aussies.... well the result says it all really.

As noted in an early post, a great deal of effort has also gone into improving the domestic game in Japan so last night's result will have them buzzing. Their next game against Chinese Taipei will be intense.

As for the Boomers, it was nice to finally see "BoomerThon", he will develop a better understanding of how the international game is so different to the NBA. Delly getting some game time was good too.

Goulding reinforced his spot on the team while I thought the others hurt there chances. I wonder if Andrej assigned Mr 400K to be the go to on offense to see if he could step up. He gave it his best but fell well short of my expectations. Hopefully he gets better for the experience and can go to the next level.

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ME  
Last year

At absolute best this will be a wake up call for the Boomers. I feel like we play a little bit entitled when we come into a game we expect to win. There's a "she'll be right, mate" attitude that we really don't want to be fostering here. We're going to walk into a lot of games at the World Cup and Olympics that we will expect to win, and if we come in playing with the mentality we did last night, and the mentality we have in other Asia games (that we have won despite not really seeming to care), we will get beaten. We will probably have the second most talented team in 2019 and 20, but we cannot go in thinking like that or we're going to lose to some obscure second-rate basketball nation that barely even scraped in.

The game wasn't meaningless either. If we lose to Philippines, we qualify second in the pool. Think about that - SECOND IN THE POOL. That is embarrassing for a team that should be the Dream Team of Asia. And qualifying second will result in our crossovers, and could potentially affect our draw at the World Cup. It could be the difference between catching Team USA in the first crossover or not, quite literally. But Andrej Lemanis will joke and laugh and sip his tea like Kermit and act like this loss means absolutely nothing, but he'd better have a bit more of a straight face on Monday.

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Luuuc  
Last year

As for the Boomers, it was nice to finally see "BoomerThon", he will develop a better understanding of how the international game is so different to the NBA. Delly getting some game time was good too.

Obviously nice seeing Delly in green & gold again, and especially Thon in his debut. The type of offence we're running at the moment makes Delly pretty ineffective unfortunately. We also can't afford him to not look to score. He played like it was going to be an easy assist-fest for him last night. He needs to do better at keeping the defence honest.
With Thon, hopefully familiarity to coaches & teammates will improve the way we use him over time, so I'm not too concerned about him.
In the scheme of things the loss itself isn't that meaningful, but I would still hope that we'd be trying to win every game. To me that means sticking with the players who are getting it done rather than just rolling through a scheduled rotation and assuming the win will come.
On the positive side, I liked CG43's game. He actually made things happen, because Japan had to respect him as a scorer.
Most of the other players were too passive though. To me it did not look like we went out there with a "let's beat them" mentality. Looked more like a "let's go through the motions and wait for the trash to lose to us" mindset.

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Luuuc  
Last year

... and that's without mentioning our underwhelming defence.

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Luuuc  
Last year

but he'd better have a bit more of a straight face on Monday.

Yeah I want to see a face that says "Ok, that was actually not good. I need to do better. Also, I've got nothing against Carl, love is love, but personally I'm strictly into women."

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Anonymous  
Last year

McCarron hasn't impressed me at the international level as he’s jump shot isn’t reliable. Cadee plays no D, can’t rebound. Kay struggled and was out classed by Fazekas. Kickert offered nothing of note and has no low post moves that worked against them.

Goulding, Sobey both have international games and should have played more to get in rythum. Nobody spoke of Lisch doing zero either.

Delly looked under cooked, as did Lisch. Bringing both guys who have had injury issues wasn’t smart.

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johnnysack  
Last year

Apparently 1st round pool W/L carries over to 2nd round, so all losses no matter the excuse can have potentially serious consequences.

Unfortunately Japan is already up against it should they make the 2nd round.Choked against the Philippines in an eminently winnable game and again against Taiwan in a game that the vrtually had in the bag. Bummer... but it is what it is.

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johnnysack  
Last year

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/asian-qualifiers/howtoqualify

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