Anonymous
Last year

Game Day: Boomers v Philippines 9:30pm EST Fox Sports 505

Boomers play Philippines tonight at the 55,000 capacity Philippine Arena with tickets reportedly being sold out. It will easily be the largest crowd ever the Boomer have played in front of, even PH who usually don't play at this arena (it's owned buy a church group).

We are level with Philippines on the table with a W-L of 4-1. Wins carry over to the final group stage so there is no time to relax even though Lemanis seems to now think he is too cool for school.

Topic #43548 | Report this topic


Andrew  
Last year

Based on Friday's performance it's anyone's game tonight.

Philippines now know Australia can be beaten so they will be playing with 110% intensity which we also need to match.

If Australia run some plays inside and stop jacking up lazy threes we should be good.

Reply #694158 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

That crowd is going to be insane

Reply #694159 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

side note its actually fox 506 thats showing it

Reply #694161 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

There's a news that some members of Aussie team remove the stickers/decals on the court which is fiba approved. Team Philippines are angry saying it's very disrespectful towards the host nation.

Reply #694170 | Report this post


Hogwash  
Last year

??

Reply #694173 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Haha Carl I knew you were a Pinoy.

Reply #694175 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Sorry mate. U guess it wrong. You kept saying that since day 1. Lmao.

Reply #694176 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So why do you know so much about something that would only be in the PH media?

Reply #694177 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

and you only ever show up here for these Asian qualifiers. So obvious.

Reply #694178 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Well try to read other forums. Like the lebanese basketball forum, China basketball forum, Philippine basketball forum. Etc. You can also try real gm and interbasket forum. Asia basket net and eurobasket net. You are way to funny. It seems that you really are not fan of the game just the team you support.

Reply #694181 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

More like you're a hater of Aus team. Always here desperately hoping Aus fail to an Asian team.

Reply #694183 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Hater? All I said was we can't win against China's full line up with our current team. W/out nba and Euro players. Or the 2nd game vs Japan will be a closer than the 1st one. Where's the hate? Don't you deny it cause you can back read the thread's where I post it. Ohh how did u know about the decals/stickers being only in ph media. Hmmm. Fishy huh! Don't worry I can understand where you're coming from. When I played Div1 there's so much like you there. Hahaha.

Reply #694184 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

A lot of talk lately that Lemanis is trash, which means he will probably get the win tonight

Reply #694189 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Will be an interesting game with 50k Phillipino crowd and better backcourt players added.

Reply #694191 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

What happened? Did I hurt your ego or something. Watch for team Qatar they are starting to field the magic 12. Meaning the kids from Bosnia that they adopted. Lol.

Reply #694192 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

For those who want a free link to watch tonight's
game, go to the link

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=187

wait 10 seconds for the Leo Messi ad to close, then click the video play button.

Reply #694196 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl I do follow other basketball. Love Euro ball and read Eurobasket forum. Also don't mind South American teams like Brazil and Argentina. Aus could learn a lot from Europe but never do.

I don't care for Asian zone though because they are aimply inferior - boys trying to be men. Kind of like in FIFA too, they are simply not good enough. Sorry if that offends you.

Reply #694202 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

It doesn't offend me. But aussie soccer is not good either. Lol I'll pick iran and japan over Australia. Japan is on the knock out stage. Hope they can pull an upset.

Reply #694206 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Don't get me wrong I have high respect to Australian football. Especially tim he did a good job in Australian football. But my fave tean portugal can beat them even their B team.

Reply #694211 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

bull shit, carl

Reply #694215 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

That's true. Haha. B team portugal will beat an Aussie team. In football. Haha.

Reply #694216 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

portugal could not even beat Uraguay, who Australia eliminated in the 2006 world cup qyalification 2 matches playoff. HAHAHAHA.

Reply #694217 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

but Australia will thrash portugal in basketball, tennis, swimming, hockey, cricket, rugby. You clown.

Reply #694218 | Report this post


koberulz  
Last year

2006 was a while ago...

Reply #694219 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Exactly it's history. We are talking now. Lol. You seem to get hurt a lot. When it comes to your team losing. Hahaha. Chill. You cry baby.

Reply #694220 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

That wasn't me Carl, but some other anon.

Aus football is disgustingly bad.

Reply #694221 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Austtalia can most likely beat portugal in soccer. Remember australia only lost to France 2:1 in this world cup. France eliminared Argentina 4:3 in this world cup.

Reply #694222 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

But our bball is looking good :D

Reply #694223 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

LOL WTF @ this random anon interrupting my conversation with Carl. The Shockeroos are pathetic. Only scored via penalties. No goals from open play in two World Cups now. Soccer-ewwws!

Reply #694224 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl gtfo of here and go to a philipino basketball forum

Reply #694225 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I don't know but. In asian standard you are good. Hopefully aussie football can level up it's game. Just u know to change the football landscape in world cup. It's always euro and South America.

Reply #694227 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Ok this other anon is trolling now very poorly. Lame.

Carl good luck for tonight my friend. ;) Should be a classic.

Reply #694228 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

annon #694224

It does not matter, Russia did not have 1 single shot last night against spain and only had 15% possesion, but they eliminated Spain.

Reply #694229 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So? Russia are still shit. and the way that game went down was very suspicious.

Reply #694230 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Hopefully a better game for the boomers this time. My wife won't be happy if it's another L. Lol.

Reply #694231 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So you need an Aus win then - happy wife, happy life.

Reply #694233 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes, Russia are shit but they are now in the quarter final of the WC, Spain are going home.

In football, Courage and attitude are more important than skills

Reply #694235 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl, stop pretending, you are a philipino.

Reply #694236 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Yeah. Hahaha. A nothing beats a beautiful Aussie blonde wife smiling.hahaha.

Reply #694237 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Well Shockeroos are out so you can add having no courage and attitude to sucking hard.

Reply #694238 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

FoxSports channel 506 btw at 9:20PM AEST

Reply #694239 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

no, blame the poor coaching for our WC exit.

Reply #694243 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Stadium looks nowhere near a sellout.

Reply #694246 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I think brazil will win it all the way.

Reply #694249 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Lower bowl 60% full. Upper bowl empty af

Reply #694250 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

LOL at using this stadium for a qualifier.

Reply #694252 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How is that Free streaming link I gave you guys, is it working well for you ?

Reply #694255 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Big mental test for the Boomers. This is by far the most chairs they've ever played in front of.

Reply #694256 | Report this post


Billy  
Last year

Someone posted a link above, and it shows a very high quality Iran vs Kazykstan game...

Can anyone read chinese and tell me which other link to click haha

Reply #694258 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Apparently organisers got top greedy as ticket prices were too high.

Reply #694259 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

too

Reply #694260 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So why did they build this thing?

Reply #694262 | Report this post


Billy  
Last year

http://www.360zhibo.com/link.html?id=http://www.entgroup.com/12098

Reply #694263 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Any stream links?

Reply #694264 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

sorry guys, this is the correct link

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=181

Reply #694265 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

It's primarily not a sports arena - owned by a church group for meets and concerts etc. A sold out game at their bball stadiums of 20k like Araneta Dome would mean a better atmosphere.

Reply #694266 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

www.foxtelnow.com.au

Reply #694267 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

kason jidd, this is the free link

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=181


wait 10 seconds for the Leo Messi ad to close, then click the video play button.

Reply #694268 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Can someone offer Heal some meaningful employment to get him off commentary? Argh.

Reply #694269 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Hey Carl is Chooks To Go yummy?

Reply #694270 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

kason jidd, this is the free link

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=181


wait 10 seconds for the Leo Messi ad to close, then click the video play button.

Reply #694271 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Billy, this is the boomer link.

http://www.fyzhibo8.com/tv.asp?id=181

let me know how it goes

Reply #694272 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Thanks anon

Reply #694273 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Forget Heal, Matt Russell is worse. Call the frigging play and stop trying to sound like you know what you are talking about, not to mention stop crapping on with useless comments while the play is going on. Newsflash dude: you don't have a clue. You’re just another football caller calling basketball games who has no idea.

Reply #694274 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

The link laggy for anyone else?

Reply #694275 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes it goes without saying Matt Russell sucks but has an excuse being from rugby league. Heal on the other hand...

Reply #694277 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Nathan Sorbet

Reply #694279 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

kason jidd, the link is very smooth for me,

Reply #694280 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"The anticipated crowd of 55,000... not there."

Wow, horrible horrible commemtary.

Reply #694281 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

they keep banging on about the disappointing crowd but it's still bigger than any NBL crowd ever

Reply #694282 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Cadee getting crossed over, lol. Expect to see a ton of that this season. Pitiful excuse for a defender.

Reply #694283 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Probably my shitty internet

Reply #694284 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Bullets will be so lolbad to watch this season. Can't wait. New owners get stuck with such a trash roster is so harsh on them.

Reply #694285 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Philippines are a trash team

Reply #694286 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Still better than the bullets tho

Reply #694287 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Just like the Socceroos

Reply #694288 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Lol. Gilas are complete rubbish.

Reply #694289 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They're no Japan.

Reply #694290 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

It's so sad that these are actually nation's A teams.

Reply #694291 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kay just hit a shot so game over

Reply #694292 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

not Even Thon expected that pass from Delly.

Reply #694293 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

God Russell is crap. Thon Maker just obliterates Blatche and he misses it completely. Absolute shithouse caller.

Reply #694295 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

yes, kason jidd, you probably need faster
internet connection.
I am using a 30 mbps
broadband and the streaming is very smooth.

Reply #694296 | Report this post


Billy  
Last year

Is Thon injured? He can't get off the ground.

Reply #694297 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Filipinos enjoy massive flops as much as (non-united) NBL fans

Reply #694299 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Those Filipino guards are so slippery. You cannot pin them down.

Reply #694300 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Billy, is the link I provided working for you ?

Reply #694301 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Sensational crowd and great stadium but obviously not a basketball facility. Too big a gap from the court to the crowd where you lose 50% of the atmosphere.

Reply #694302 | Report this post


Billy  
Last year

I'm still on the one I posted a while ago and it's working fine. Cheers

Reply #694303 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Why does every ad break have to have a Trivago ad. kskjdbydbjdmomdœd

Reply #694304 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

No wonder maker don't get much time in nba, struggles putting one in front of the other, but he is tall, looks 7ft 2". He’s off the bench behind Bolden for me.

Reply #694305 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Reply #694308 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Interesting seeing Maker in this one. At halftime, some lowlights but also some big highlights. That block on Blatche was an incredible recovery. It is exciting seeing him in a Boomers uniform and he looks promising for future Boomers teams. I hope we see Maker commit to a lot more internationals. He could really benefit from the experience and can consolidate an important role on the team.

In this team, we really need his defensive presence. We have just he and Brandt offering any solid interior defense.

Reply #694309 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

kasin jidd . Try the link
Billy provided as well

http://www.360zhibo.com/link.html?id=http://www.entgroup.com/12098

Reply #694310 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Someone put butter on the floor at half time or what ??

Reply #694312 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Thank anon. Connected to 5G and all good

Reply #694313 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Alley oop from range

Reply #694314 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

5G hasn't launched yet.

Reply #694315 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Delly and Maker showing their chemistry playing together.

Reply #694316 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

5G(Hz) wifi?

Reply #694317 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So Japan beat Chinese Taipei by 40

Reply #694318 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Damn we only beat them by 38!

Reply #694319 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Japan trashed them

Reply #694321 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Goulding having a very impressive game.

Reply #694322 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

WOW fight fight fight!

Reply #694325 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

RIOT!!!

Reply #694326 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Holy shit ... that is fucked up

Reply #694327 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

This is the most shameful display by the Philippines

Reply #694328 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

HOW MANY TECHS FOR THAT???

Reply #694329 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert king hit #16 which started it all.

Reply #694330 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Nice one GOULDING hahaha

Reply #694331 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Arrested?
Disgraceful.

Reply #694332 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

HOLY SHIT!

Reply #694333 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert king hit a player, what a moron.

Reply #694334 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Filipinos run wild after the Kickert punch.

Reply #694335 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Disgraceful? Lol. KickHurt started it all. Hahaha.

Reply #694336 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

All instigated by a Goulding flop.

Reply #694337 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Horrible stuff. Kickert did start it.

Got sucked in by Goulding's flop.

Reply #694338 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

This is the most shameful moment I've seen in international basketbal. Kickert was a dick, but Philippines should be so ashamed.

Reply #694339 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Goulding and Kickhurt! Hahaha what a shame!

Reply #694340 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Only person in the world who fell for a CG43 flop other than a Melb referee

Reply #694341 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

My friend Carl I have to agree with you.

I played it in slow motion right away and Kickert punches a player. Lame commentary by Heal to merely state Kickert was defending a teammate. WTF, sack Heal.

Reply #694342 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Wow. That attack on Sobey is something else.

Reply #694343 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

loo Maker attempts a flykick.

Reply #694344 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Who did the Philippines bench pile onto? Goulding? Sobey? Disgraceful.

Reply #694345 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Most interesting thing that's happened to Australian basketball in a while

Reply #694346 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

lol*

Kickert is pointless. Why is he even on the team?

Reply #694347 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Thon's martial arts game is not strong. Thank goodness.

Reply #694348 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Carl, your commentary has been ludicrous throughout this thread.

Reply #694349 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert went for a clean punch, not a standard bball push. Fucking moron.

Reply #694350 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Aussies rugged play vs Pinoys no blood no foul game. Lol. But Kickhurt was caught on cam.

Reply #694351 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So this country is hosting the world cup in 2023?

Reply #694352 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Although in saying that PH players shouldn't react like that.

Oh and Carl it's confirmed now you are Pinoy as first thought. :)

Reply #694353 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

SO many Philippines players going for punches to heads. And not to mention the kicking pile up. And the bench completely out of control. Most of the team should be ejected.

Reply #694354 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert elbow not punch sorry. Still incredibly stupid.

Reply #694355 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Most of their team should be suspended after this.

Reply #694356 | Report this post


Another Anon  
Last year

Good thing Philipinos punch like 5yr olds. Lots of cheap shots by the clearing bench

Reply #694357 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

rjd ridiculous? Are you watching the game? Goulding keep on flopping and trash talking then suddenly kickhurt started it all.

Reply #694358 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Wow. Classless.

Reply #694359 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Finally some spice to this game.

Reply #694360 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

Aren't you ejected if you leave the bench? Will there be any players left to finish the game?

Reply #694361 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

It's already a win game for us. But then shit happens.

Reply #694362 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

If Aus win on a walkover we only get +20pts I believe. Currently up 31pts so we get short changed.

Reply #694363 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Nobody is arguing about Kickert's dick move. Kickert didn't start it, a Filipino elbow to Goulding did. But Kickert went too far in response. He is one guy. The response by the whole Philippines team, including the bench, was absolutely atrocious.

Now the Philippines team is taking selfies and laughing about it? Shows a complete lack of class. I didn't realise they were that bad. Even the Chinese wouldn't do that after they riot.

Reply #694364 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

What is going on with these Filipinos? Are they crazy?

Reply #694365 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

@ Carl, seen how many guys do a flagrant just like Kickert without leading to mob violence from the other team? Disgusting stuff from the Philippines and they deserve everything they are going to get from this.

Reply #694366 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

WTF selfies? Wow, PH strip them of the World Cup 2023 now.

Reply #694367 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Both teams will be suspended by fiba that's for sure.

Reply #694368 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

rjd on second thoughts you are right. Good summary.

Reply #694369 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

If I was an a Boomer I would be walking out between Bradkte and Longley on the way out of the stadium.

Reply #694372 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Carl, of course I'm watching. Do you think this is an appropriate response by a team when an opposition player elbows one player? Is it ok to clear the bench like that? Pile on players? Wake up, dude.

Reply #694373 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I don't think the officials know what to do.

Reply #694374 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Carl you are delusional.

Reply #694375 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How long does it take to kick their entire team out ffs

Reply #694376 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I called out Carl during the Japan game (and earlier in qualifying games). Now everyone realises.

Reply #694377 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

FIBA will surely award the game to Aus with a walkover score of 20-0.

Reply #694378 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I don't know. It's already a done deal. A win for us he doesn't have to do that. I mean common man. Just get the W and go home.

Reply #694379 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"Goulding keep on flopping and trash talking then suddenly kickhurt started it all."

A new FIBA rule proposed by Carl: bench may be cleared to start a riot if a player flops and trash talks.

By the way, do you really think the last play involving Goulding was a flop? Was it a phantom elbow? Of course you are being ridiculous if your contention is that.

Reply #694380 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Every player not only left the bench but threw punches. Don't think any Aussies left the bench? Good luck to the Phils for the rest of the tournament without any locals over 6’1.

Reply #694381 | Report this post


Todd  
Last year

Any players who leaves the bench should be rejected.

Reply #694382 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Who's getting suspended?

Reply #694383 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

At least this starts a heated rivalry between AU and PH. Rest of Asia is boring.

Reply #694384 | Report this post


Andrew  
Last year

What a shameful disgrace by Philippines. Smashing Australian players with a chair. Philippines need to be eliminated from the tournament.

Reply #694385 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Goulding exaggerated that like he does everything.

Reply #694386 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Disgraceful, but I'm still laughing. Not certain Kickert will sleep to well tonight in his hotel room and maker but be a bit uneasy with his flying kicks.
Game should be abandoned and no points to either side.

Reply #694387 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

This is going to be a long review. It will be difficult the number of punches and kicks by the Philippines players. Kickert should be ejected. Maker, not sure given the level of violence directed towards him.

Reply #694388 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

HTFU refs! Brazil-Mexico starts soon!

Reply #694389 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I remember the greece vs serbia brawl..

Reply #694390 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

Kickert might get a game. Thon might get a game. There should be Philippines players not playing FIBA ball for a long time though. Seen some wild brawls I the Chinese league but nothing like this. It wasn't Malice at the Palace, but it felt li,e it could have escalated to it, especially if the Aussies had cleared their bench.

Reply #694391 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Just heard the announcement for the next round of qualifiers. 2 new faces. Jeff Horn and Danny Green move into the guard spots.

Reply #694392 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How about Anthony "The Man" Mundine? Apparently he can actually ball.

Reply #694393 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Is that THE Ned Coten?

Reply #694394 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Everything is oh so simple in Shane Heal's little brain.

Reply #694395 | Report this post


Big Ads  
Last year

Disappointed with Kickert and response from the Philippines bench

Reply #694396 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

It's tough to say how players like Sobey and Maker should conduct themselves in that situation. It was madness the way the Philippines bench came on with such violent aggression. The jump punches to heads.

Reply #694397 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

I'm watching the Asian stream and I think this commentator is making more sense to me than Shane Heal probably would be.

Reply #694398 | Report this post


Melbourne Boy  
Last year

Kickert should be banned for a very long time, Goulding got hit but flopped to show contact to the head, Kickert king hits a guy in the side of the head 3rd man in nearly knocking him out, then the brawl begins.

Reply #694399 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes Splinky. Heal is dumb. Why oh why is he commentating. A crime.

Reply #694400 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Greece vs Serbia brawl was nothing compared with this.

Reply #694402 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

STFU Heal. MY GOD SHUT UP.

Reply #694403 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Just watch again the reply on how Kickert hit the number 16. That's solid. No wonder they reacted that way.

Reply #694404 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The boys in grey are back.

Reply #694405 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl how heated is our rivalry now, not just on here but out on the court now ;)

Reply #694406 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

How many guys do a foul as bad as Kickerts each NBL season? One or two? Deserves a game or two, and does not make what followed even close to a reasonable reaction you twit Carl.

Reply #694407 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I actually don't care about asia-pacific. It's just love for the game. My concern is we dropped a game againts mexico.

Reply #694408 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Boomers will get media coverage now at least.

Reply #694409 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

So the Filipino coach asked his players to challenge Australia physically. So what! They didn't actually do this until Kickert laid one of their players out.

Reply #694410 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Correct mate. Haha. Japan beat CT by 40'

Reply #694411 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl lol so now you're American? Good one.

Reply #694412 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Goulding and Sobey might think twice before flopping again. :):):)

Reply #694413 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Of course Kickert's response went too far. It wasn't a punch, but an elbow shove that was uncalled for. If you see the replay, it looked like Kickert responded to a nasty elbow to Goulding. Does that excuse Kickert? Of course not, eject him. Same applies to most of the Philippines team. "No wonder they reacted like that"? Really?

Players make bad aggressives responses, and it doesn't justify any tit-for-tat, or in the Philippines case, tit-tit-tit-tit-etc-for-tat.

Reply #694414 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Pacquio vs Horn 2.0

Reply #694415 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Here come the 569525587 fouls.

Reply #694416 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

AngusH. One or 2 NBL players do not do what Kickert did each season. The only similar incident is a few years ago when Chill took out Wagstaff.

Generally they just chest up and push each other.

Reply #694417 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Last time I checked yes. It just happened I'm married to an Australian. Why are you so nasty when soemone is commenting about you guys. Hahaha.

Reply #694418 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

LOL what a recital.

Reply #694419 | Report this post


Laker824  
Last year

I think Hawkes should take the job for Lemanis he would've at least stepped on the court to join in and protect the Boomer players..

Reply #694420 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Four AUS and nine PH players ejected.

Game over.

Reply #694421 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Kickert, Sobey, Goulding, and who else was ejected?

Reply #694422 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert and Maker should be suspended along with a bunch of Filipino's.

Kickert should get a lengthy suspension.

If Philipines are hosting 2023 world cup, they should stripped of the event.

Reply #694423 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Maker

Reply #694424 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Kickert, Goulding, Sobey, Maker. Sorry, got it now.

Reply #694425 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Five on three basketball!

Reply #694426 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Still 1.5 quarters of this? Hahahajajhahha

Reply #694427 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Might as well run up the score.

Reply #694428 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

This is ridiculous. Why play if not to compete and try?

Reply #694429 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Two PH players left.

One more to go.

Reply #694430 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Philippines throwing in the towel.

Reply #694431 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Smart work to foul out. End it as soon as possible.

Reply #694432 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

This is grim

Reply #694433 | Report this post


joshuapending  
Last year

Can't see footage but am I correct in thinking that the fiba site has them only playing with 3 players?

Reply #694434 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Reply #694435 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

One player left. Game over.

Reply #694436 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

3 players? Don't be silly. It is 2 now.

Reply #694437 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Correct joshuapending

Reply #694438 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

If you call off the game it is a walkover win to Aus 20-0. This way we win 89-53 I believe.

Reply #694439 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Thanks for ruining the second half, Philippines. Literally obliterating 15 minutes of basketball. Hope that is a lesson that players need to keep their cool, no matter what an opposition player does.

Reply #694440 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They kept their cool with selfies... afterwards.

Reply #694441 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

I have never seen a basketball game like that before in 30 years of watching. Amazing. Look forward to seeing the larger ramifications.

Reply #694442 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

They probably walk away from this game satisfied that they won the brawl.

Reply #694443 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Splinky that's because you don't watch Euroball.

Reply #694444 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

I don't think they did themselves too proud in the brawl either tbh. That was several levels of fucked up.

Reply #694446 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Any implications for the Boomers moving forward?

Reply #694447 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Look at the refs response when the fight starts. They all back away and do nothing.

Reply #694448 | Report this post


PlaymakerMo  
Last year

Rjd take off your green and gold glasses for a second and look at the play: that wasn't an "elbow shove" from Kickert, he charged and elbowed a guy in the head.

The Philippines team escalated the situation to an absurd degree by ganging up on and pinning Goulding to the ground and throwing a chair at Sobey, but Kickert instigated the brawl. That was a fucking dog act on Kickert's part and a suspension doesn't cut it: he shouldn't be allowed to represent Australia after that shameful display.

Reply #694449 | Report this post


J  
Last year

How the hell can a plauer who seemingly didn't do anything be getting gang bashed on the floor on a professional basketball game in 2018, its fucking sad, no excuse for it, looked to be more than just players too. Anyone hitting someone on the ground like that should be banned for life

Reply #694450 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

PlaymakerMo finally someone saw where I'm coming from. If he did not throw that nasty elbow there's no brawl. And also the refs are to blame.

Reply #694451 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

What did Sobey and Goulding do?

Reply #694452 | Report this post


Andrew  
Last year

Just as well the Filipino team punch like little girls and throw chairs worse than ladies WWE.

Reply #694453 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

" that wasn't an "elbow shove" from Kickert, he charged and elbowed a guy in the head". I don't want to get into semantics because I suspect I think the same as you as far as the degree of Kickert's idiotic response. Unwarranted, same as I was talking about the Philippines response was terrible. Kickert is just one player. Doesn't justify the response.

Did you see the way Sobey was piled on? It even looked like staff got into him too.

Reply #694454 | Report this post


Melbourne Boy  
Last year

Goulding was the one pinned down in a head lock and being punched, stayed down after for a while too.
Sobey came to thay area and was hit with a chair twice, camera only caught the first soft one, second chair hit rocked him.

Reply #694455 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"If he did not throw that nasty elbow there's no brawl."

Of course. The same could be said about the unsportsmanlike foul moments before by Pogoy when Goulding received a very nasty elbow himself.

If we analysing a trail of violence, then you need to look at events prior Kickert: this shows that the initiator actually should go back to Pogoy for starting it all. I'm not making this argument, by the way, but just following your logic.

It is the response by players to aggression that is important. Elbows are not uncommon in basketball. Yet we rarely see brawls like this.

Reply #694456 | Report this post


PlaymakerMo  
Last year

Semantics matter, that's my point: you're downplaying Kickert's involvement by labeling his act as "unwarranted" and the Philippines as "disgraceful", "terrible" etc. We ought to show Kickert as little respect as we do the Philippine players involved in escalating the brawl - it doesn't seem like you quite agree by again trying to deflect Kickert's blame onto Pogoy.

FYI it was Goulding that was piled on, not Sobey. Watching the footage I don't think Sobey did a thing: he was hit by a Philippine player just for being in Kickert's vicinity.

Reply #694457 | Report this post


Mike  
Last year

That's why Kiwis are more love worldwide than us. Never saw them so nasty stuffs like that. Period! Sad to see this happened.

Reply #694458 | Report this post


Splinky  
Last year

Can you imagine if that happened to the Kiwis? Mike Vukona would end Everybody,

Reply #694459 | Report this post


Aussiebballer  
Last year

Did anyone figure out why Sobey and Goulding got ejected?

Reply #694460 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Where was security? I ask as officials and fans also got involved.

Reply #694461 | Report this post


PlaymakerMo  
Last year

Following your own logic, Kickert responded to Pogoy's aggression.

"Elbows are not uncommon in basketball."

You're either delusional or a troll. Deliberately elbowing another player in the head ought not, and I hope isn't, condoned by anyone. That's what you're doing: condoning Kickert's actions.

Reply #694462 | Report this post


Andrew  
Last year

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/other-sports/basketball/disgraceful-all-in-brawl!686908

Reply #694463 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Lol he is blinded by his patriotism. He cannot see that it takes 2 to tango. Calling philippines players disgraceful. How about goilding doing the trash talks, unnecessary pushing elbows and flapping all game long. Then kickert. Damn. Ow by the way donovan Mitchell tweeted about thons flying kick. Very didisgraceful. LMAO.

Reply #694464 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Pogoy = hard/dirty foul
Kickert = moronic ejection and suspension worthy
Phil team reaction = disgraceful and serious repercussions will follow

Reply #694465 | Report this post


Kason Jidd  
Last year

Front page on most of the news websites now. Starting to see traction on the nba and American sports pages too. Should be an interesting day tomorrow.

Reply #694466 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Thon Maker "flykick" = embarrassing lol

Reply #694467 | Report this post


Beantown  
Last year

Kickert and Thon getting ejected makes sense, but what did Sobey and Goulding do to get ejected?

Reply #694468 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

"Basketball Australia deeply regrets the incident in tonight's match between the Boomers and the Philippines in Manila. We are extremely disappointed with what happened and our role in it.
“This is not the spirit in which sport should be played and certainly not in the spirit in which we aim to play basketball. We apologise to our fans and will await the penalties to be handed down."

- Anthony Moore

http://nbl.com.au/news/article/42724-ba-statement-on-world-cup-qualifier-in-philippines

Reply #694469 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

Holy shit.

Looks like: Goulding flopped, filipino player over reacts charges and tries to throw a light punch (worthy of a tech on the filipino) Kickert charges in elbows the Filipino, dick move worthy of ejection and maybe 2-3 game ban in NBL.

Then Filipino squad comes in throws punches and headlocks, an escalation to absurdity which should command a year long ban. You just can't do that. Ever.

Thon Maker...no clue what should or will happen to him. What the hell was he doing jump kicking in the air towards people for????

Reply #694470 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Thon Maker is freaking famous now. A lot of Nba players tweeting about that flying kick. Lmao.

Reply #694471 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Thon flykick the latest meme.

Reply #694472 | Report this post


Big Ads  
Last year

They must really hate floppers in the Philippines and seeing Chris Goulding get collectively pummeled by players and spectators for a flop was not as satisfying as I thought it would be.

Jokes aside, it was a relief to see no one was badly hurt.

Reply #694473 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Goulding to stop flopping in the 2018-19 NBL season in fear of what just happened reoccurring.

Reply #694474 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

^funny hahaha.

Reply #694475 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

You're welcome Carl. See you're warming to me :p

Reply #694476 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Haha. Memes are funny lol.

Reply #694477 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Watching the replay in slow motion, the flying punches at the heads by the Filipinos is cowardly assault.

It's one thing to be a not very talented team, but that's far better than being tainted by such pathetic behaviour.

Just imagine the Filipinos playing in the NBL if they react like that, they'd be starting a riot every gave they play against Perth, Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide.



Reply #694478 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Australia will be playing mainly middle eastern teams including (possibly) Iraq in the next stage of qualifying. Probably safer than playing in Manila.

Reply #694479 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

One of the fans threw chair at the Boomers players

Reply #694480 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Some the post in the other forum. Hahaha.

I would put the blame on the Coaching Staff of the Australian National Basketball team. Even before this game started, they put their team into such a combative mood that it was bound to explode somewhere, and it did. As they say, when you play with fire, prepare to get burned.

For example, that "Removing the Decal from the Floor" [email protected]%, what kind of [email protected]% is that? Coming from a supposedly first world country, that was a disgrace. Then their players nitpicking about our players crossing the half court line during the Pre-Game Warmups? How about their top scorer constantly thrash talking our players?

I know they must pay a lot the Coaches there in Australia, but a Win at All Cost or the End Justifies the Means mentality has no place in sports, there is such a thing as Sportsmanship also.

Reply #694481 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Spot the Filippo.

Reply #694482 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Filipino

Reply #694483 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

It came from the other forum just copy pasted it. Lmao.

Reply #694484 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes, you copy and pasted a Filipino.

Reply #694485 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"We ought to show Kickert as little respect as we do the Philippine players involved in escalating the brawl - it doesn't seem like you quite agree by again trying to deflect Kickert's blame onto Pogoy."

WTF. Firstly, I singled out Kickert many times. Eject him, suspend him. Secondly, I was following someone else's logic regarding Ponoy, just pointing out the problem with following a trail of violence. My blame was and has always been directed at anyone who threw elbows or punches. There is no excuse for violence.

Look at the footage from behind the Australian bench. It was mayhem. It is amazing that the bench remained as composed as they did.

Reply #694486 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Another post.

It all started when Chris Goulding trash talk Andray Blatche when Andray was taking a free throw then trash talk again against RR Pogoy when he was also taking a free throw. Ayun pinatikim ni RR si Goulding and the rest is history..

Reply #694487 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"You're either delusional or a troll. Deliberately elbowing another player in the head ought not, and I hope isn't, condoned by anyone. That's what you're doing: condoning Kickert's actions."

WTF again. Seriously? You are either deliberately trying to misconstrue me, or you have comprehension issues. I'm saying that any violent reaction to violence is not justified. When did I indicate anything about condoning Kickert's elbow? Kickert's violence doesn't justify a brawl. Is that so hard to understand?

Reply #694488 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Trash talking is part of the game.

and now you write in Tagalog? hahaha I was right all along yet you pretended not to be a pinoy.

Reply #694489 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"I would put the blame on the Coaching Staff of the Australian National Basketball team. Even before this game started, they put their team into such a combative mood that it was bound to explode somewhere, and it did. As they say, when you play with fire, prepare to get burned. "

Hahaha.

(This is the first time I've ever responded with just a "hahaha" in a forum, but this statement is so ridiculous it is funny. Shows Carl's true insane bias to everyone too. Brilliant.)

Reply #694491 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

What are you saying? I'm just copying that from their forum. Lmao.

Reply #694492 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl you are such a horrible poster. Just go away please. rjd hahaha'ing means you are posting utter trash arguments.

Reply #694494 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Another post.

The basketbrawl between China and Brazil on 2010 where China was sanctioned for mass brawl in Brazil friendly.

As a result of FIBA's investigation into these events and after careful consideration, the following sanctions have been handed down:

- Coach Robert Donewald Jr. is suspended with immediate effect for three official games. Donewald is also fined CHF 40,000.00. He will serve a two-year probationary period during which an exemplary and sportsmanlike behaviour shall be expected.
- Player Zhu Fangyu is suspended with immediate effect for two official games.
- Player Sun Yue is suspended with immediate effect for one official game.
- Player Zhang Bo is suspended with immediate effect for one official game.
- A fine of CHF 20,000.00 is imposed on the Chinese Basketball Association.

Additionally, the game’s three FIBA referees - Jiang Tongbiao, Jan Jun and He Luwei – were banned from nomination for official international competition for a period of one year after failing to officiate according to the letter and the spirit of the Official Rules of Basketball.

Reply #694495 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

This post was funny


Quote Originally Posted by cireeex View Post
What happened is a sad thing to Philippine basketball

First and foremost the control of the game is on the officiating hands.

Warning should have been issued to the Aussie player taunting our guys taking the freethrows, that is what started it all, followed by the physical plays and hard fouls. Guess it really set the court for a bloody brawl.
Maybe the Arab refs didn't quite understand whatever it was Goulding was saying there

Reply #694496 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl stop pastimg from other forums and write down your own original arguments. Oh wait, you aren't bright enough.

Reply #694497 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

pasting*

Reply #694498 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I'm just sharing their sentiments. Lol chill. I don't know why you are acting like that. Will not go to your level like kickert and pogoy did. Hahaha. Lmao.

Reply #694499 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Lucky for Philippines the game ended when it did.

If it kept going they would have lost by 50+. Is that why they wanted the game to end? Hmmm.

Reply #694500 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Their forum is funny. They want everyone gone! Especially the coach. Hahaha.

Reply #694501 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Can't argue with that. Trash and undisciplined coach and players who take selfies after a brawl.

Reply #694502 | Report this post


twenty four  
Last year

Is 'Kickhurt' supposed to be clever or something?

Because it really isn't.

Reply #694503 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl is butthurt.

Reply #694504 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Sorry, Carl, didn't realize it was not your own statement. How about just providing a link to another forum instead of spamming this thread with random comments from some other random forum.

Reply #694505 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Butthurt for what? Stop obsessing. You are making smile and giggle. Hahaha.

Reply #694506 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Go to interbasket and look for Philippines. You can read everything.

Reply #694507 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I mention butt and hurt and you are now smiling and giggling? I knew it Carl!

Reply #694509 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Ok if you are happy with that. Haha.:)

Reply #694510 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

Any attempt to defend Gilas should be met with derision.

Okay, Daniel Kickert threw an elbow and deserves a ban for however long they want to ban him. And there was some "thing" about stickers that happened before the game that made them all a little pissed, but let's look at what Gilas did:

* Coach was encouraging them to fight
* They cleared their bench while Australia's stayed put
* The bashed men who weren't aggressors, 5 on 1
* Their bloody OFFICIALS who should have been trying to diffuse the situation, were throwing in opportunistic hits and chairs on men who are lucky to have walked out without serious injury
* They threw coward punches from behind guys who could not have possibly defended themselves
* And like some sort of street gang, they laughed and posed for selfies after

In short, Carl, your team lacked any of the class, humility or humanity befitting a national sporting team. Every member of your national team program acted like common thugs with complete disregard for human life, and they fucking laughed while doing it. It showed that basketball in your country lacks professionalism, class, and the scoreline showed the complete lack of skill.

But thankfully, we won;t have to read stupid comments from Filo fans everywhere about how "good" your team is, how they'll beat X or Y opponent because they've got gastro (whoops, I mean Castro?) because they won't be at the World Cup. There is NO WAY in hell that your team isn't about to be sanctioned such that you'll be able to compete. So the biggest loud mouths in world basketball will have to shut it for at least a year. Should be nice to see.

Reply #694511 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

It's not my team. Hahaha. I just love the game that I post here and other forums.

Reply #694512 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl = philipino

Reply #694513 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

What are u doing in an Aussie bball forum ? carl. Go to your philipino forum.

Reply #694514 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Say whatever you want. :)

Reply #694515 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They may call themselves by the name but there is nothing SMART about Gilas.

Reply #694516 | Report this post


Btown  
Last year

Pinoy officials taking swings should be banned for life.
Kickert is a bloody idiot and should have a lengthy ban which prob won't mean much as I doubt he will be selected again out of principle.
Most of the Philippines team should be banned for a long long time. Chairs, pinning people down to beat, punches to the back of the head. It was all pretty disgusting, more so that I couldn’t spot any trying to stop what was happening, instead clearing the bench to start punching people.


Reply #694517 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Do we have any close footage of what happened to Goulding? There were enough photographers around there taking snaps of the action.

Look at 4:21 of that Youtube clip above. There is even support staff trying to kick Goulding.

Reply #694518 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

I hope FIBA get their punishments right because they can be strange. It wouldn;t surprise me if Australia got a 20 year ban and Gilas got a free wildcard pick to the world cup or something dumb like that lol.

Reply #694519 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The dude who took the selfie is a huge poser? Bench player?

Even before the incident I noticed him sitting on the bench posing. Poser.

Reply #694520 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"The Boomers bench and staff were incredible staying put. There were some serious hits in there" -- Christ Anstey on Twitter.

Have to agree with that. The bench staying there following those scenes, especially with Goulding being pummeled behind the basket. Longley was great, someone who stayed cool and helped the situation and was free to do so within FIBA rules.

Meanwhile, on the other team, several Filipino bench players and support staff managed to get some hard kicks and punches to make contact. It is amazing how many Filipinos are defending it all.

According to Foxsports, this is what Romeo tweeted: "That tweet is loosely translated to: "To my fellow filipino players who say we're embarrassing. I don’t give a f***. Us teammates inside have to help. We can’t let them be on their own. If we’re embarrassing in your eyes why don’t you become an australian".

No shame.

Reply #694521 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Wasn't Kickett getting physical during warm ups with them? Part of the catalyst possibly?
We also ripped off the sponser decals from the floor the night before without permission because they were slippery.
Poniy should have been teched but it looked like after Gouldings 2nd flop play would have gone on.
Kickett needs to go.
Longley saved Sobey down there to, see them all clear when he gets there.

Reply #694522 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

I've seen a few different versions of the footage, but I haven't seen what Goulding and Sobey did to warrant ejection. Anyone know?

Reply #694523 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Anyone who thinks any Aussie should be removed or fined or is at fault is an idiot and has never played a team sport. What happened was not great but in no way should the CEO be apologizing. I'm glad they faught for each other. In any other sport no one would bat an eye lash at this.

Reply #694526 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl should stick to trading cards.

Reply #694529 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

Toxic masculinity at its worst!

Reply #694530 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

What did I do? Common mate! You are checkmate! Hahaha:-) at least we get to see some action it's been so long. Kidding aside hopefully they will give sanctions to the correct people. Ayt! Ayt! Hahaha. :)

Reply #694534 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Anon it's not longley. Troy rike saved him. The new recruit from wake Forrest university. GOD BLESS US! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Reply #694535 | Report this post


Timberball  
Last year

Cadee runs away as usual

Reply #694537 | Report this post


LV  
Last year

I don't really care how many games the Filo's get suspended for but gosh, can someone ban Carl from this thread?

Reply #694539 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

Why are you guys reacting to one guy trolling?

Reply #694540 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

Why are you guys reacting to one guy trolling?

Reply #694541 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

LV seriously what have I done to get ban? It's that anon who keeps on attacking me. Common don't be like kickert. Haha.

Reply #694542 | Report this post


LV  
Last year

Wow.

Every time you watch the replay you notice something else. One of the Filo players ran from the bench and kicked an Aussie in the back. And connected. Another attempted a flying punch.

Absolute dog acts.

What authority does Fiba have over domestic competitions? Could FIBA suspend these guys from national comps like the Filo national comp etc?

If this was AFL, those guys would literally be suspended for a year. Deservedly too.

Reply #694543 | Report this post


LV  
Last year

And yeah I can't work out why any Aussie got ejected other than Kickert and Maker?

Reply #694544 | Report this post


Thunder Jam  
Last year

FFS will you guys stop saying "elbow". Are you blind?
It was a push with the forearm,at no stage is there an elbow thrown!
None of this begins if Goulding doesn't flop. Maybe a towelling up will finally get this message across to him.

As for the bench, I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with you lot.

Fines/suspensions or whatever, get out there and help your mates!

Reply #694545 | Report this post


Reality  
Last year

The Boomers bench was a disgrace! The person telling them not to help should be sacked!

Aussie doesn't watch as there mates get the shit kicked out of them!

Regardless of who starts it etc the bench should have cleared to protect each other and it didn't, this shows why we lost against Japan we simply aren't united.

As its on FIBA they are much like FIFA they will give out a few small slaps of the wrist and all will be forgotten so those saying people will get long term suspensions are dreaming as FIBA have no balls on these issues.



Reply #694548 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Now this is getting interesting. There are rumors that Kickert and Goulding are saying racist remarks towards the filipino even the start of the game. Waiting for the development on this one. It's on ESPN US.

Reply #694551 | Report this post


LV  
Last year

One of their players literally ran from the bench and launched a flying kick into Chris Gouldings back. And connected. And Goulding hadnt even done anything.

Another ran from bench and attempted a flying punch at Dan Kickert.

Then Goulding was on the ground and support staff kicked him... another support staff threw a chair at Nathan Sobey.

Yes Kickert is a dick and deserves a hefty suspension, but anybody trying to defend the actions of the Phillipines team needs to have a look at themselves. If the Aussie bench had reacted like the Filo bench then it would've been 10 times worse again. Imagine that

Reply #694552 | Report this post


Cram  
Last year

The Boomers bench did the right thing. Adding more people to that disgrace would just have made things worse.

Reply #694553 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

*before

Reply #694554 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Now this is getting interesting. There are rumors that Kickert and Goulding are saying racist remarks towards the filipinos even before the start of the game. Waiting for the development on this one. It's on ESPN US.

Reply #694555 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Philippine coach saying that Kickert was hitting players before the game. Typical tactic by people that are clearly in the wrong. Throw mud, just like they'll now accuse CG of being racist. Aim for lowest form of accusations to deflect blame of their coach of inciting this during his timeout.

No wonder for a country that is so passionate about bball, are hugely irrelevant on the world stage. Their 'pro’ league let manny pacq suit up in games for God’s sake.

Reply #694558 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Allegedly Goulding was calling them dogs.
Not sure about the aggressive mentalities the Aussies had, perhaps because we got beaten by Japan and had something to prove.
Crouching Goulding, hidden Sobey.

Reply #694559 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

https://youtu.be/2f_fR30Ty2U

Link of the interview. Hmmmm. Kickert? Very interesting.

Reply #694560 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

Wow, that was a pretty disgusting show by the Philippines. I would be embarrassed as anything if that was my National Team representing me.

Kickert was an idiot but he's just one man, the whole Phillipino Team should hang their heads in shame. That's the Players, the Coaches and all the support Staff as they all behaved like mutts.

The Philippines should be stripped of the hosting rights for the next WC's and their Team & Staff should receive long bans from the Sport.

NZ and Australia play physically and passionately against each other and don't ever find the need to play dirty and have a punch up, what's up with the filthy Philippine's?

Reply #694561 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

#selfiebrawl

Reply #694562 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

What's worse, pinoy basketball or Pinoy ability to throw punches

Reply #694563 | Report this post


Hogwash  
Last year

Gutless Filipinos.

Reply #694565 | Report this post


Hogwash  
Last year

Are Filipinos good at any sport?
Pissing myself laughing at these midgets.

Reply #694566 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

how can Kickert hit the Pinoy players during a warm up?
Any video these hits Kickert did, Pinoy coach claims 4 in total, surely there must be evidence of one ?

Reply #694567 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

From the rumors there was a video. Let's wait for it. If this is true then I don't know what to say on kickert.

Reply #694568 | Report this post


Jack Toft  
Last year

Luuuc has a video of You Tube. The comments from the Phillipino supporters are savage. They claim the Aussies pulled up a sponsor logo pre game (need more info on that one. 1. Did it happen? and if it did: 2. Why did they do it? 3. What is the sequences of events? 4. Did they seek authority from the team management to do so? etc etc

Reply #694571 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

The Philippines are just trying to deflect attention from the fact they acted disgustingly on the world stage and should have the hosting rights for the WC's stripped from them and their entire team banned.
I've seen some disgusting images of support staff assaulting players.

I couldn't care less what was said on the court, you don't all get up off the bench to commit assault on mass against an opposition player on the ground!

Dogs...

Reply #694572 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Someone posted this on their page.


Gilas is used to physicality. We played New Zealand, several times, they are physical but they never disrespectful and arrogant. But this Aussies are on a differentn level, destroyed the stickers, elbow our players by this Kikerr when they accidentally cross midline during the warmups. Telling they are Top basketball program but showing different. Very classy.

Reply #694573 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

End of the day they were getting smashed by our B team. One of most underperforming nations for a country that claims to love its basketball.
Do hey get automatic bid for hosting? What a joke

Reply #694574 | Report this post


Udog  
Last year

They're just pissed off because all their decent women end ip with old Aussie farts.

Reply #694575 | Report this post


Dave Q  
Last year

Very bad look for all involved. I really hope Sobey is OK... getting pounded on by 4+ assailants whilst on the ground could have had tragic consequences.

What are the precedents for this? Can't imagine a whole team/organisation being suspended for a period of time? Will be the case of a big fine for the local fed, with individual sanctions on a as-needed basis? I imagine several Australian players will also face some level of suspension?

Reply #694576 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

A lot of people and reports saying it was Sobey on the ground getting pummelled. No that was Goulding underneath all those people and swinging fists. Look at the video from the start. It's right at the end of everything when Sobey cops the thrown chair and the coward punch.

Reply #694578 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

China had a worse brawl with Brazil and barely got any punishment. Doubt there will be anything more than a one or two game suspension for some of the players involved, and some fines for the federations. Maybe someone gets put on "probation".

Reply #694579 | Report this post


LV  
Last year

There's a photo on news.com.au of Sobey taking a punch square in the jaw from a support staff. He also got a chair thrown at him. CG kicked on the ground

What authority does FIBA have? These support staff should be banned from bball employment for life.

Reply #694580 | Report this post


Fred  
Last year

There is an article in the Philippines with the coach endorsing the fighting from his players.

Disgraceful!

Reply #694581 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

The only Australian that deserves sanction is Kickert in my opinion.
Maker's actions were comical and at his age he shouldn't be made to serve any suspension.
The Australian bench showed real restraint in not joining the melee especially as their teammates were being gang bashed on the ground.

Reply #694582 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

American youtuber reaction.

https://youtu.be/liy5DCCF4JQ

Reply #694583 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Many things to talk about here. Firstly goulding will think twice about flopping which is a good thing for basketball because like joel selwood both players objective is try to draw a free kick or foul rather than going for the ball.

Kickert should be banned for life. If a footy player did that he would get a year suspension. Kickert should get a life ban for inciting a riot.

Other than that I don't think any other player from either team should be suspended but both national teams should be banned from competing for years I don't care who the countries are.

The phillipino officials who were fighting the aussie players should have criminal charges brought against them as well as being banned for life from basketball.

That takes care of fiba punishments but now lets look at what basketball australia will do. If our cricketers were banned for 12 months for organising to rub the ball with sandpaper then basketball australia should ban the aussie players involved for life no questions.

Lastly this is the risk you take when you go to uncivilized countries which are lawless and the people don't know the difference between right and wrong.
Countries like australia should never go to 3rd world poor countries with no laws.

Reply #694587 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

In that situation the phillipinos outnumbered the aussies in the fight because that idiot on the aussie bench didn't let the players join in. In that case when everyone is going to get banned he should have let the aussie bench players go in and defend our country

Reply #694588 | Report this post


Red84  
Last year

Thon Maker is my hero. PH officials, so-called security and spectators were escalating the melee. Thon charged 2 piles of PH players and officials who ganged up on 2 Aust players, one on the ground behind the goal and another at the corner. In each occasion he scattered the PH pack for a moment. Given that security has completely broken down, the choices are pretty stark - either you defend your team mates against superior numbers; or stand by - be a good boy - and watch them get beaten to a pulp.

Reply #694590 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

There is no way it would have been a good idea for the Aussie Bench to join in. Escalating an already bad situation could have brought the crowd into play and even more chaos. I doubt we would have made it out of the stadium. Being outnumbered 30 to 4 is one thing but being outnumbered 30000 to 20 is another!

Reply #694597 | Report this post


Red84  
Last year

Get it in perspective. Kickett coped a solid elbow in the head in the first half by a "5 mins of fame" PH guard (some hood) who seemed to think it was quite OK to throw it out there. Kicket objected to the ref, who agreed with him and called the foul. and Kickett went on with the game. Also Goulding copped an elbow deliberating aimed at his stomach just prior to the melee. The game was physical in the first half because the PH were playing dirty. Aust coach responded in 3Q with a full court press and blew out the margin. The PH coach (who - appeared to me to be inciting thuggery in his players) could not handle it - losing so clearly in front of their home ground.

Reply #694598 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Wouldn't have happened if they had taken Johnson

But seriously, I hope BA have the balls to veto Kickert from all boomers squads cos what a flog

Reply #694599 | Report this post


Good work holding the Aussie bench back. Keeping Drmic out of a fight is a herculean effort. He would have been frothing.

Reply #694600 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

"In that situation the phillipinos outnumbered the aussies in the fight because that idiot on the aussie bench didn't let the players join in. In that case when everyone is going to get banned he should have let the aussie bench players go in and defend our country"

You seriously have NO idea. If he had let them barrel in like heroes, the entire crowd could have descended on them. And also, they could be banned from future competition. Luc Longley did enough.

"Other than that I don't think any other player from either team should be suspended but both national teams should be banned from competing for years I don't care who the countries are.

The phillipino officials who were fighting the aussie players should have criminal charges brought against them as well as being banned for life from basketball.c"

Clearly we have a moron on the loose. Australia's crime is Kickert alone, while the entire Philippines staff and players went full ape shit. Banning Australia is stupid and so are you.

As for racist remarks, WHAT BULLSHIT. If they were saying racist shit the referees would have been on top of it. There is absolutely no evidence of that, and that's exactly why they're saying it - because it can't be proved or disproved. It is just a red herring to put doubt in minds.

Reply #694602 | Report this post


DJ  
Last year

Another angle from a mobile phone recording;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyPs3svyQAE

Interesting one of the Phillipines players squares up a black polo event manager staffer but doesn't end up throwing the punch.

Reply #694603 | Report this post


Red84  
Last year

If FIBA is not FIFA then the PH BBall association should lose their hosting rights for international matches due to gross violation of security and outright incompetence. I was very, very concerned that the Aust players might not be able to get off the court without further assaults, such was the scale of breakdown in security. If we get a bullshit reply by FIBA, then BA should ignore it and not play further matches there. This might seem undiplomatic, but at the end of the day it is BA that has the duty of care towards the safety of Aust players - and they should uphold that duty.

Reply #694604 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

The comments section by Gilas fans are not good evidence. There is a tendency for them to 1) immediately claim racism when being criticised, when race had never entered the discussion whatsoever, 2) find any possible reasons to excuse the violence (stickers, incidents in pre-game warmups, trash talking); 3) support and even respect the bench coming out to "support" players on court; 4) refer to Filipino culture to excuse

In my mind, the claims of racist taunts are highly dubious. There appears to be a search for trigger events to spin the preceding events into a justification for the brawl.

As for the stickers, the Australian team pulled up advertising stickers the night before, which annoyed the the court staff. This was seen to be arrogant to do so without consultation. Australia did so because they believed they were slippery and dangerous. They apologised prior to the game, and the apology was accepted prior to the game. Yet somehow now this is used as an excuse for the aggravation. When stickers are being used as an excuse, you know you don't have much, so then something like racist allegations seem to be necessary. Those allegations didn't appear for a while.

As for the Boomers bench, the support staff was helping restrain the bench. You had guys like Gliddon pleading to go to help Goulding trapped behind the basket being assaulted, literally, but were held back. The bench appeared to want to help, but the support staff acted professionally to prevent the brawl from escalating. Imagine what would have happened if the bench went out there. There were many Gilas who appeared to want to fight anyone. Look at the start when Sobey was punched by two players when he wasn't even involved. It was already madness, so anyone criticising the Australian bench for not getting involved are absolute fools.

Reply #694606 | Report this post


Jack Toft  
Last year

Sobey hit by a chair.

Respect to Goulding for lying on the floor and getting pummelled by a dozen guys and not seemingly injured, but then again its a bit like a year 12 getting attacked by a group of year 7s

Reply #694608 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

One filo fan posted this.

A shame it went on like that and I hate that most players on both teams got involved in that, but no sympathy at all for Goulding and Kickert.

Maybe Goulding won't be talking shit and instigating bullshit like that in the future - from trash talking repeatedly and instigating conflict to being in the fetal position lying down relying on his assistant coach to protect him on the floor, basically fearing for his health there. Fake tough guy.

Kickert - maybe he isn't such a tough guy after all despite his love of throwing cheap shots and elbows against a way smaller player, running away like a scared prck. Absolute fake tough guy.

I hate that Gilas had to go down to the Australian's level and have to brawl, and the blame lies on Chot who needs to resign tonight or ASAP. But not being on the court and having to deal with a team that, even up 30, still plays overly physical and rough, almost to make a point, you can't get in the minds of the Gilas players themselves and not fully understand and thus go after their character and whatnot too much. It's just a shame the brawl went on beyond the court with fans and officials involved - that is what people ought to be focusing on and the blame goes to our officials with SBP, some fans and the security.

Reply #694609 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Apparently they were fired up before game for Australia disrespecting them for tearing up stickers off floor, apparently they were slippery. Saw a few posts on Philippine FB pages where there was outrage to this, this may have caused a bit of a gee up before game that led to this. Doesn't excuse what happened though. But will be interesting with sanctions. Kickert is done internationally.

Reply #694610 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Actually, on inspection, is that Aussie support staff holding the Australian bench back, or security for the stadium?

Reply #694611 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Carl, stop copy-and-pasting stupid comments in this thread. We don't need to see every hot-headed biased account by Gilas fans who excuse the violence. Write what you think, or what someone of importance stated, not what some other random fan said.

Reply #694617 | Report this post


Melbourne Boy  
Last year

For everyone saying well done to the Aussie bench not running in, fair call under normal circumstances, but what would have been said if Goulding was seriously injured by the mob and the Aussies weren't allowed to go and pull him out of there?

Reply #694618 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

^word

Reply #694619 | Report this post


Gav  
Last year

The team has more than sufficient support staff to wade in pluck our lads from the scrum, no need to escalate things by emptying our bench

Reply #694620 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

It wouldn't have been as simple as going in and pulling him out. It would have just turned into an even bigger brawl and lasted even longer. More Filipinos probably would have gotten involved too and who knows how much worse/bigger it could have been especially with a riled up crowd.

Reply #694622 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

Yeah the Gilas fans have been beyond ridiculous. Ten guys smashing a guy on the ground is "sticking up for eachother" and ripping stickers is genuine cause for violence. Fuck your stickers. Next the coach willk lecture us on the cultural importance of those stickers to further muddy the waters.

Reply #694624 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year


ME
Today

"In that situation the phillipinos outnumbered the aussies in the fight because that idiot on the aussie bench didn't let the players join in. In that case when everyone is going to get banned he should have let the aussie bench players go in and defend our country"

You seriously have NO idea. If he had let them barrel in like heroes, the entire crowd could have descended on them. And also, they could be banned from future competition. Luc Longley did enough.

"Other than that I don't think any other player from either team should be suspended but both national teams should be banned from competing for years I don't care who the countries are.

The phillipino officials who were fighting the aussie players should have criminal charges brought against them as well as being banned for life from basketball.c"

Clearly we have a moron on the loose. Australia's crime is Kickert alone, while the entire Philippines staff and players went full ape shit. Banning Australia is stupid and so are you.

As for racist remarks, WHAT BULLSHIT. If they were saying racist shit the referees would have been on top of it. There is absolutely no evidence of that, and that's exactly why they're saying it - because it can't be proved or disproved. It is just a red herring to put doubt in minds.



You are the one that has no idea buddy. Obviously a keyboard warrior who has never left his basement to get into a sports fight, maybe at the hotdog eating championships for you I don't know. If that were you getting smashed on the ground by 10 blokes are you saying you wouldn't want your team mates to come in and help you. Or on the flip side if that was a team mate of yours getting smashed are you saying you wouldn't go in to help.
Any person that has played sport would agree with me which makes me think you are just a fan at best.

Reply #694625 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

That's what makes this so sickening. There is no way the Australian bench would have helped the situation based on the madness that was happening. It was like street gang warfare. Longley was the hero, by the way.

In a preceding timeout, the Gilas coach was recorded saying "Hit somebody, put someone on their arse". Frustrated and humiliated, this was a team primed for combat. Look at the way the bench came onto the court. Look at their coach when it all began. No attempt to intervene nor stop his players. The Gilas coach's comments after the game also gives an indication of their psychological state.

Reply #694627 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

as for Booners saying racist comments Imagine this for a second, you';re Chris Goulding, playing alongside Thon Maker - an African man - and you're calling people "monkeys"?

Yeah, pretty unlikely.

Reply #694628 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

"You are the one that has no idea buddy. Obviously a keyboard warrior who has never left his basement to get into a sports fight, maybe at the hotdog eating championships for you I don't know. If that were you getting smashed on the ground by 10 blokes are you saying you wouldn't want your team mates to come in and help you. Or on the flip side if that was a team mate of yours getting smashed are you saying you wouldn't go in to help.
Any person that has played sport would agree with me which makes me think you are just a fan at best.'

I've been playing basketball for 20 years... so how about no? And how about the fact that the boomers knew in the long run they;'d be worse off for jumping in? Right now, only the Philippines look to be possibly banned from international competition. And you haven';t considered if the crowd got involved. Obviouslky you';re a hot headed idiot with no more brain cells than the filos.

Reply #694629 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

It really is remarkable reading the comments by Gilas fans. The eagerness to condone violence, the fascination with finding an Australian trigger event to excuse the violence. There are a lot of attempts to save face. There is a very common overwhelming street gang mentality.

Goulding rubbed them the wrong way with his cockiness (and presumably also strong play on the court). A lot of focus on his trash-talking, yet nothing about what he actually said. Goulding seemed to be enjoying the hostile environment throughout the game, which probably made him more of a villain. NBL fans should know about this. No surprise that Goulding has been used in these accusations.

Reply #694632 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

Wow, so many on here proving that we really have a problem in society.

@rjd, I agree with most of those comments, they make some sense.

I would say more, however it is probably better to wait for some more information, some facts and interviews to be conducted before we see too many people getting their self-absorbed grievances aired and rumors gain traction over facts.

BA should investigate, very deeply into the causes of this, notwithstanding the horrible effects, but try and understand what triggered it and why it happened in the first place.

Reply #694633 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

ESPN reported that SBP believes FIBA won't suspend any players. They believe FIBA doesn't hand out suspensions so they "dodged a bullet".

Reply #694635 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

I tend to think FIBA is like FIFA, at times a toothless tiger, but BA should still hold an inquiry of its own, which I expect they will...

Whether the results of any investigation will be made public or not is going to be interesting.

Reply #694639 | Report this post


Lazza just released the following statement:

The Owner and Executive Chairman of the NBL Larry Kestelman has made the following statement on the incident in last night's FIBA World Cup qualifier between the Australian Boomers and Philippines in Manila.

"The NBL stands united with Basketball Australia in condemning the behaviour of players, officials and fans during the Boomers game against the Philippines in Manila last night.

“Our players need to accept responsibility for what happened on the court and any sanctions that follow. However we do not accept what happened on the sidelines when Australian players were attacked by fans and officials including a chair being thrown at one of the Boomers’ players Nathan Sobey and another player Chris Goulding set upon on the floor.

“This disgraceful behaviour needs to be dealt with by FIBA in the strongest possible manner and we will await the outcome of their investigation. We commend the restraint shown by our players and officials in the circumstances and we are working with Basketball Australia to facilitate the players’ return home in the quickest and safest way possible and protect their welfare.

“We are proud of the NBL’s well earned reputation as a family sport and we are thankful that this sort of behaviour is not a feature of Australian basketball. We have record participation levels, crowds and interest in basketball and we are committed to continuing to deliver a first class product all Australians can enjoy and be proud of."

Reply #694641 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Once again ME you are thinking about the basketball side of things saying the boomers were thinking about the future. That's all well and good in a basketball sense but that is not the issue. Players lives were on the line there, goulding wouldn't be representing australia in future if he was lying in a coma now would he. But if the aussie bench players evened up the numbers it would have been safer for him. In terms of the crowd getting involved, what people are saying doesn't make sense. I'm a fan in the stands watching the game and a huge fight breaks out but i'm still in my seat watching all of a sudden I see 5 australian bench players join in that enrages me to the point where I'm going to run on to the court and start hitting players. Not going to happen

Reply #694643 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

"It really is remarkable reading the comments by Gilas fans. The eagerness to condone violence, the fascination with finding an Australian trigger event to excuse the violence. There are a lot of attempts to save face. There is a very common overwhelming street gang mentality."

If the coach doesn't get sacked, then we can pretty much rule out anyone respecting the Philippines as a basketball nation ever again.

Reply #694644 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The NBL and BA don't need to wait for sanctions. They can and should immediately penalise Kickert for his role. Show that they actually want to take this seriously.

Reply #694645 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

Statement by LK is a good one and although it does hint at him protecting the brand of the NBL, it also highlights something more important which is the welfare of players, something no one should lose sight of here.

I do hope FIBA can do the right thing, someone has to show leadership here...

Reply #694649 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

Response from the Bucks or the NBA, if there is one, will be interesting!

Reply #694652 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They should hand over the suspensions to cricket australia

Reply #694655 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They were condoning violence because phillipino are animals seriously someone had to say it

Reply #694656 | Report this post


Kr  
Last year

Absolute dog act by the guy who king hit Sobey. You can see him in the second row of the Philippine bench (grey shirt black hat), come charging in then wait near the photographers when Sobey gets hit by a chair. Then he make a bee line straight for him and king hits him while Sobey is being held by security. Disgraceful!

Reply #694660 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

1) Fair

2) LOL fuck off back to Oceania then and lose the opportunity to build the popularity of the sport on a grassroots level by having many home games over a certain period of time

3) LOL why can't SBP file criminal charges against Kickert who launched a cheap shot, without warning and essentially without Pogoy seeing and knowing what was to come. against a player way shorter than him.

Fuck these Aussies, the arrogance was in full display ever since landing in Manila for this game. Almost as if they wanted a fight or wanted to bait these 'Fillo dogs" into something. For what, I do not know, considering both teams have been qualified, plus Gilas were by all accounts gracious guests when they played them over in Melbourne.

Sadly, the Aussies - especially poor Goulding who was not as tough of a bloke as he tries to act when talking trash and instigating conflict when lying in the fetal position on the floor basically relying on his assistant coach to protect him - will be seen as the victim here and we will be seen as the "savages" who caused a major incident alone. I am not one who likes to see people ganging up on someone, but it's also hard to muster up sympathy for Goulding in that particular case having been acting like a punk all game long.

Like I said before, Australians have a bit of a Napoleon Complex about themselves when comparing themselves to Americans, Britons, Europeans, Canadians - and they take it out on their Southeast Asian neighbors such as us and mostly Indonesia. Ask any Indonesian what their opinion of the Aussies would be and it wouldn't be nice. I guess the arrogance shouldn't be shocking to us all.

Reply #694662 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

We should ban trade between us and the scum phillipines and let them all go hungry

Reply #694667 | Report this post


Pete  
Last year

I'd support a military strike, personally. Know your role.

Reply #694669 | Report this post


Kr  
Last year

Maker looked ridiculous with his arms and legs flailing, but the only contact he made was jumping into Blatche after he and another player had just simultaneously punched Sobey to the ground. Thon deserves the ejection but that's about it imo, Sobey and Goulding both came in to break things up but neither threw a punch and don’t deserve any action either. Kickert was similar to the Childress incident and probably deserves extra suspension on top for how far it escalated. I don’t think I saw a single punch throw by an Aussie other than Kickert and makers air swing.

Reply #694672 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Missed the game last night, just watched the replay now, why was Goulding and Sobey ejected, neither even threw a punch, Sobey ended up with an entire gang beating the crap out of him, how does that work.
Agree Kikart and Maker should have been ejected, Kikart in particular, Maker really was simply trying to get three players off one when he first jumped in, then Romeo gave him the cowards hit to the back of the head.
The Philippines should be thrown out of FIBA, the coach charged with inciting violence , the time out he clearly stateted, "hit them hard .,put them on their ass, “absolutely disgusting thug mentality from a team filled with immature scrappers.

And the Philippines should not be permitted to hold another international tournament again, disgraceful all round

Reply #694673 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Nenad Krstic hit a Greek player in the head with a chair WWE-style and got three games. No one is likely to get a long ban here.

Reply #694676 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Yes and nenad did a bloody mess there.

Reply #694678 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

The Filipino team did a lot of unprecedented stupid stuff, but the fighting words, the Philippines have zero height and are far out muscled by Australians, them fighting mentality is laughable if not for the sheer cowardice and criminal behaviour.

Reply #694679 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

What are people's thoughts on which Boomers should be penalised?

Definitely Kickert for the strike. Should he also be penalised for connecting on punches while Gilas players were charging him? He had a defensive fighting stance throughout as opposition players charged him and attempted and connected on several punches.

Maker involvement was very brief in the first few seconds: 1) he launched himself into the group of several Filipino players who had pounced on Goulding; 2) he launched a targeted kick at Romeo after Romeo punched him in the head from behind. He then backed away from the scene with 3 other Australian players. Later, when he noticed that Goulding was still down, he went towards the action but didn't seem to get involved in anything else.

Was Maker actually attempting to be a peacemaker with that clear-out charge/kick, justifiably defending his teammates, or was he provoking further violence? IMO, probably all three.

Sobey's stance in the first moments appeared to be trying to break up the violence, but was hit multiple times to the head by three separate players. He then shoved a Filipino bench player away with his feet while he was on the floor. I can't even find where Sobey's actions warranted ejection.

As for Goulding, we can't even see him as there is a crowd of Filipino players and staff laying into him. Also can't find ejection-worthy involvement from him. Anyone see it? Or is being the subject of violence enough to be considered being involved in the fight?

What is the recommended course of action for players when ganged up like that? What should players do when teammates are literally being repeatedly assaulted on floor?

Reply #694680 | Report this post


Duke Fan  
Last year

They were rubbish in WW2 as well

Reply #694683 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

"[Sobey] then shoved a Filipino bench player away with his feet while he was on the floor." I meant to add that he did this while that bench player was swinging punches towards him. Seemed to be a justifiable defensive shove given the circumstances.

Reply #694684 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Calling aussies p##sy for not standing up for goulding and co. Watch.

https://youtu.be/zUn2MgoCjEU

Reply #694686 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"Cadee runs away as usual"

LOL, he clearly didn't want to get involved.

Reply #694688 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

Re Claims: There are plenty of cameras around, until footage comes out otherwise, treat the coach's claims about Kickert pushing their players during warmups as mad and madeup rantings. Racism claims, again without proof are mad rantings.

Filipinos don't seem to get this point, but even if either mad ranting came to be of truth, it provides zero justification for coward punches and thuggery displayed.

Working on what we DID see:

Kickert: Dropped a guy with the forearm, it's within the realms of behaviour you see in basketball through NBL to NBA. Kickert should not be blamed for Philippines totally disproportionate behaviour. Even doing something dirty, you don't expect the entire Filipino team act as disgracefully as occurred - that behaviour is solely on them.

Ejection was right, a 3-4 game ban for the arm drop and the fighting behaviour is more than sufficent.

Goulding: The annoying flop aside, cannot be blamed for fighting if he's locked on the floor being kicked and punched. Impossible to expect him to somehow break free and avoid the fight.

Ejection was wrong, should not receive punishment. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a fine for the sheer fact he was part of the fight. If he got a ban, that would be very wrong.

Sobey: Clearly acted to split up the fight, didn't engage much. Ejection was wrong, should not receive punishment.

Maker: Acted like an idiot jumping into people's backs and making air kicks. Didn't connect - thankfully.

Ejection was correct, fine for fighting behaviour reasonable. Borderline on any suspension, if he had connected on a kick it would be a very different story. Wouldn't surprise me if handed down a harsh 1-2 game suspension.

Fan/Official who punched Sobey: Ban for life from Basketball; Criminal proceedings for assault.

Fan/Official who threw chair at Sobey: Ban for life from Basketball, perhaps Criminal proceedings for assault.

Filipino players who engaged with punches towards players heads, kicking or locking Goulding down to the floor: Full year ban & fine.

Filipino Coach: Apology, fine, banned for 2 years from coaching basketball & sacked.

Reply #694689 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

This gets worse and worse as we hear more details. Goulding's agent claimed that an assistant coach got involved using a chair! "The assistant coach grabs a chair and pummels it down on his head while multiple cowards stomp on him." Players fighting is one thing, but coaching staff and support staff too? Atrocious behaviour. This suggests a team-wide punishment is required.

Reply #694691 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

/ban Philippines

Reply #694693 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

rjd: It would be a shock if we saw any of the Filipino players engaged in the fight to be playing between now and 2020, and an even more of a shock if the coach was allowed to be around for 2020 & assistant coach who used the chair was allowed to coach ever again.

Reply #694695 | Report this post


Letsgosixers  
Last year

A stern word to Goulding definitely needs to be said. Perhaps just a bad habit, but one he needs to break if he wants more credibility

Reply #694697 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert will get a fine and a 2-3 game suspension. Maker will get a fine and might cop a game. Goulding and Sobey shouldn't get anything from what I can see.

The Phils... well, they should be fielding pretty much an entirely different team and coaching staff for the next 12-18 months.

Reply #694698 | Report this post


Duke Fan  
Last year

I admit I'm biased, I did call Kickert "the biggest flog in the NBL" on a post in here last season, but I can't see how he's not going to get a long suspension. If his response was to pick Goulding up from the floor rather than what he did would anything else have even happened?

Not condoning any of the following actions whatsoever, but the nature of these things is that "justice" has to be seen to be done and he's going to be the sacrificial lamb that gets wiped out to justify what happens to the Filos

I was quite surprised actually. Didn't think he had that in him. Normally he's a whiny little bitch

Kung Fu Maker is my new hero

Reply #694700 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Refs to blame big time!

Reply #694701 | Report this post


Hogwash  
Last year

I hope this is the last time we see Kickert in green and gold.
In saying that I don't think what he did justified Filipinos thuggery last night.

Reply #694708 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

If Kickert gets suspended and it ends his international career and most of the Philippines team get suspended too for the unforseeable future then I call that a WIN-WIN.

Reply #694710 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert should be suspended.
Phillipines should get dropped from qualifying.
Japan and Taipei go through to next round.

Reply #694714 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Kickert is such a bitch, that's why it's a win-win. Didn't understand why he was on the team anyway, charity games for an over 30yr old.

Reply #694716 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Sobey punched by a photographer:

https://i.imgur.com/18uN39a.jpg

Wow, even photographer getting involved.

Reply #694720 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://imgur.com/a/41cKDAI

Reply #694722 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

BA chief denies the claim that Kickert was hitting players in the warm-ups. Not surprising as it did seem implausible.

"Filipino coach Chot Reyes alleged after the match that Australian players had been hitting opposition players during the warm-up.

"We absolutely [deny] that," Moore said."

I wouldn't be surprised if the coach is making up stories to not only try to excuse the fight, but also incite hatred of the Australian team. Vilifying the opposition helps him gain support.

Reply #694724 | Report this post


Udog  
Last year

I still can't believe the post brawl selfie. Moron.

Reply #694727 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I they got vids that our players being racials will everyone agree to a 1 year fiba suspension just like fifa do?

Reply #694728 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

They don't have videos of it because it didn't happen. When they realised they don't have a leg to stand on to justify their actions they pulled out the "racism!" card. lmao pathetic.

Reply #694729 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Development. There are some picks emerging about the so called warm up altercation. Looks legit. And the refs are there in between both sides. I can see kickert. Will still wait for other pics/vids.

Reply #694741 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Hahaha Carl, keep clutching at straws. I outed you during Japan game and now you've proven me 100% right. Loving it.

Reply #694743 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I don't care whatever you say. Keep on crying. :)

Reply #694745 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Carl - no one cares about the stickers. Its a pathetic argument to justify your teams extremely pathetic behaviour. Give it up.

Reply #694746 | Report this post


Where are these "picks" Carl? You're pretty quick to post rubbish comments from other forums but when you've got something interesting there's no sharing?

Reply #694748 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Train it's not my team. And it's not the stickers. It's a about the warp ups. That they are complaining.

Reply #694750 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Chair, chill bro. I'm still waiting for the vids to come up. I will post it once someone posted it. Do your homework there's a lot on twitter.

Reply #694752 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

The Philippines are clutching at straws to justify acting like little Mutts.
Kickert should be ashamed but every Filipino Citizen should be horrified at how their National Team behaved themselves. Absolute Dogs!!!

Reply #694753 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year


Carl
A couple of hours ago

Calling aussies p##sy for not standing up for goulding and co. Watch.

https://youtu.be/zUn2MgoCjEU

He's 100% right there are philippine officials getting involved in fighting and we don't even let our players come off the bench to help out. Very bad look for australia not sticking up for our mates.

Reply #694754 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I would have knocked over lemanis and others just to get to the fight

Reply #694755 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Carl - yes it is your team, and you have zero proof about the warm up incidents apart from their coach.

Reply #694756 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

The Australian bench showed class by not getting involved in that mess.

Reply #694759 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Train. Ok if you say so.

Reply #694760 | Report this post


Hogwash  
Last year

Carl is trolling just ignore him

Reply #694763 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

@Carl, I think you are missing the point of 'justification' for the seriousness of some people's actions here?

Anyone who has any objective view of this incident based on what we know and have observed so far agrees that Kickert has a serious case to answer and will likely be sanctioned for his over-reaction and seemingly reckless strike. What possessed him to react this way, rather than not go over and help Goulding up from the court is difficult to comprehend. It will probably come out in time, but it cannot be reasonably justified in the circumstances presented thus far.

Then there are a number of extremely violent, potentially life threatening and serious incidents, of which it appears many players wearing blue (and their associated officials/other representatives) are the perpetrators of and some players wearing yellow the victims.

It is acknowledged widely in the public media that Goulding has a flopping issue (he isn't alone here) and something has obviously triggered a clash between him and No.16 in blue. But what triggered the incident where he was at the bottom of a pile of opposition players/others being pummeled, punched and kicked, how can this be justified?

It has also been acknowledged by those being objective in what they have seen so far that Maker, while not seemingly connecting with his wild kicking motions, did appear to jump carelessly/recklessly into a pack of players and once again will likely be dealt with accordingly. Hard to justify that action, but some appear to think his primary objective was to defend, after his initial jump, maybe he was?

Sobey appears to have only one thing in mind, try to defuse the situation and protect himself and his team mates, but how on earth can someone justify the way he was punched to the face and hit from behind by a chair for goodness sake?

Other than coming up with excuses or justifications for hating Aussies because of your (and others) perception of arrogance, confidence/cockiness, alleged on court trash talking or disrespect and accepting that we also do not condone this type of violence from any player, what is your problem exactly?

Reply #694768 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Omg Bear. Chill man. There's no excuse of what the filo team did. Why you guys are so triggered? I'm just posting about the development on this one. Then this ano and some random dudes keeps on attacking me. I didn't even say one nasty word about the boomers. Common back read it from the start. It's all over the net that they are accusing us (my wife being an Australian) of being racist towards them. What I said it let's wait for the vids/pics. Dang what's so hard so about that. Geeez!

Reply #694776 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"Carl is trolling just ignore him"

He's actually not. Which is scary.

Reply #694778 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

It's not just what you are writing up Carl, it is your posts, links and insinuations that add up to some kind of issue you appear to have.

Fine, you are just a top bloke who wants the truth, well there it is then, cheers, oh and I am chilled (as you put it), just don't suffer fools easily!

Reply #694786 | Report this post


Fred  
Last year

Filthy filo team. Gave cheap shots all game and now crying.

Reply #694789 | Report this post


Uncuuul  
Last year

In case anyone wants to watch the actual game

Reply #694791 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Well the links are from youtubers reaction about the incident.

No worries. We cool. :)

Reply #694792 | Report this post


BobnCat  
Last year

Couldn't have said/done it better myself Bear, well put.

Reply #694796 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

YUCK, that link has the shtty Fox commentary duo of Matt Russell and Shane Heal.

Any link to the full game with world feed commentators?

Reply #694798 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Action starts from 1:19:24 in the above video.

You're welcome.

Reply #694799 | Report this post


Taylor  
Last year

Footage of Goulding being attacked - including by the assistant coach in the white shirt with the chair !?!

https://twitter.com/KenjieZK/status/1013915756327665664

Reply #694806 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2141330159228516&set=p.2141330159228516&type=3&theater

I don't know of this is legit.

Reply #694808 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The reason why the Aussie players were not seriously hurt was because some of the Philippine players who came over tried to protect the Aussie players.....if it were not for them, Goulding would have aa bloody face all over.....the referees didnt do anything...one referee who was right there when Kickert hit Pogoy didnt do anything as he was too scared at the Aussie players who were surrounding Pogoy.

Reply #694814 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Tried to look for previous brawls, I found that and the serbia/Greece game. In the Serbia/Greece game, Krstic threw a chair and hit the opponent in the head causing head injuries with blood. Krstic got a 3 game suspension.

Reply #694815 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

LOL @ Goulding using the term "trash" about the team just what I've been using since Friday when qualifiers started up again.

Reply #694816 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

That Rike was very brave and we appreciated what he did protecting goulding. But that is like 1 or 2 people defending him out of 10 to 15 more trying to hurt him.

Reply #694817 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

There was a monkey word.

Reply #694818 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

Yep, that Goulding Twitter 'screenshot' looks dodgy as. I expected some fabricated evidence, but not this blatantly bad.

Reply #694819 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Looks photoshopped. hahaha so pathetic

Reply #694820 | Report this post


AKA  
Last year

I agree that Kickert should be fined and heavily suspended but I have no issue with what he did. They had been chipping all game with little cheap shots (and if the pre-game tripping story is true it further validated my opinion) and eventually you have to say you aren't going to cop it anymore and fight back.

Reply #694821 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl probably did that photoshop. After I kept hammering him with the word 'trash' on Friday he had to use it in that fabricated tweet. Gold.

Reply #694822 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Again my name is being dragged sad. :)

Reply #694823 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/australia-vs-philippines-brawl-newly-reviewed-vision-shows-altercation-in-warmups/news-story/95727f0e3ad79ed12eb4586507393e0a

Foxsports has some footage from the warmups showing a Filipino player trying to trip Kickert. Kickert retaliates by pushing the wrong guy.

Started with a cheap shot.

Reply #694827 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

So the Phils argue we started it pre-game during warmups when in fact they started it? Hilarious. Oh me oh my Philippines.

Reply #694828 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

So the Phils argue we started it pre-game


IT defies belief that they believe excuses justify the sheer savagery that occurred.

The behaviour in tripping, the coward assault with officials joining in, the selfie and the response by the coach after...

They clearly don't get it and while they don't get it there's no point in the Philippines having a national basketball team.

Philippines are not a fit nation to play international basketball. Simple as that.

Reply #694831 | Report this post


KET  
Last year

News Corp have written about 10+ articles, talk about coverage!

They did a blow-by-blow analysis lol

Reply #694835 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

During warmups, while both teams were running through their respective layup lines, a Filipino player is seen putting his leg out to trip Daniel Kickert. Kickert then turns and pushes a different Filipino player, before both teams came face-to-face, and had to be separated.

The incident appears to be among the things that helped ignite what ended up being a violent third-quarter brawl, where 13 players were ejected.



Reply #694837 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/australia-vs-philippines-brawl-newly-reviewed-vision-shows-altercation-in-warmups/news-story/95727f0e3ad79ed12eb4586507393e0a

Reply #694838 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Warm up altercation. Other pics to follow.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhGKPkgU0AELHqz.jpg

Reply #694856 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Phillipines Basketball Facebook page is savage

Reply #694859 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

They got pics and vids. Submitting it to fiba. Let's wait for the decision.

Reply #694861 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

They got pics and vids. Submitting it to fiba. Let's wait for the decision.

Reply #694862 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

I know there have been more than 450 posts to this thread but as 300 of them have been from Carl I don't think it has been done to death yet.

Haven't been able to watch the incident again from last night until now but I would like to apologise to Chris Goulding for calling what he did a flop. Although he sold it a little he was hit hard and high so I don't consider what he did unreasonable and I don't attribute any blame to him.

Kickert definitely went too far with his reaction but his record speaks for itself so this was probably out of character for him. Still a big mistake.

For the record Cadee went in and defended Sobey who was trying to stop things from escalating. Maker was in there helping and defending his team mates also.

While some of the actions of the Filipino players were really bad the most serious infraction is that of the team and stadium officials. Their role in such an incident is to quell the melee. It is accepted that adrenaline will get the better of the players at times but the officials don't have that as an excuse.

Those officials should receive the most serious penalties followed by the players who went too far and that includes Kickert.

Reply #694865 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Who has "got pics and vids"? If Philippines have them it will just show they were in the wrong.

Reply #694866 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Anon will just have to wait for fiba.

Reply #694869 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Funny to think that I had to create the game day thread yesterday afternoon because no one was interested. Look at it now...

Reply #694870 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Thank you for creating it. U the best mate. :)

Reply #694873 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

You're welcome Carl my old friend.

Reply #694874 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Bro you the good guy anon? I have something to share.

Reply #694875 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

It all started in the warm ups according to this Herald Sun article with the Phillipino's creeping over the half way line and egging on Elbowit. He can't be called Kickert now can he? ;)
Pretty clear in the photo that a Phillipino foot tried to trip Kickert up.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/video-shows-pregame-incident-sparked-philippines-brawl/news-story/4909ca06a912a0d6d1c4a7d57346b81e

Reply #694876 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

philipine team should be banned for at least 1 year

Reply #694878 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Hahaha. Joker.

Reply #694881 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Aussies should never play another bball game in this rubbish country, This shitty country is Full of violence and corruption.
No Ausssie should even comtemplate touring this rubbish country.

Reply #694883 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

First cricket now basketball. Doesn't Aussie know the importance of sportsmanship. Hahaha. Sad we are going the wrong way.

Reply #694884 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl, you jerk. The cricket incident was just cheating. This is no cheating, just pure violence and the philipinos are the main culprits.

Reply #694886 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl, you are obviously not an aussie bball supporter, wtf are you doing in an aussie bball forum?

Reply #694887 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Lmao. Sorry gotcha their mate. O to 100 real quick. Well they got the video. It's obvious kickert push Matthew right. S*n of a B. Now boomers are doom. Hahaha.

Reply #694888 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

You already dig up my profile. Doesn't sound philo to huh. Like the way you accused me. Sorry mate. Hahaha

Reply #694890 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl, if you hate the boomers, why are posting on this forum? You are obvioysly trolling to piss people off here

Reply #694891 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

I don't hate the boomers. Why u all saying that? Anyway someone posted.

Ordinary fans did not join the brawl...in fact, no fan went to the court to hit any Aussie player....it was the Aussie players who went to the fan area after hitting Gilas players......they ran to the fan area without any worry whether they hit any fans....it is no surprise that fans who were in their designated area retaliated......if the Aussie players stayed inside the court, the fans would not have been involved.

Infairness to sobey he got pushed outside the playing court. Hahaha.

Reply #694892 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Moderators on this site don't want to get rid of "Carl"

Reply #694895 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Hey bad anon there's already vid. Very clear that kickert push some philo player during warm ups. The kicks are true some philo player did that as retaliation. Now waiting for the racist remarks that was caught. Just be nice a lil bit I might show you the vid. Hahaha.

Reply #694898 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The mod here want "carl " to continue insulting the boomers.

Reply #694910 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Slow clap. What insult it might be?

Reply #694911 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

what insult it might be? maybe i can quote one of your comments

" First cricket now basketball. Doesn't Aussie know the importance of sportsmanship. Hahaha. Sad we are going the wrong way."

Reply #694913 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Invalid. That was my recent post. You been telling me since a couple of days a go that I'm insulting our team but yet u cant provide anything. Not until now. Which is Cleary a post from our news paper. Sad mate very sad. You are so close minded. Drop your green and gold glasses there's a whole world for you to see. Not just Australia. Shaking my head.

Reply #694917 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

You did say " Doesn't Aussie know the importance of sportsmanship. Hahaha. Sad we are going the wrong way."

That is actualy an insult to all sportsmen in this country.

Reply #694919 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

As I told you it came from the news paper. Where are the others? Like yesterday?

Reply #694920 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

here is another one a few days ago

" That's true. Haha. B team portugal will beat an Aussie team. In football. Haha."

Hard to believe you are an Aussie with comment like this.

Reply #694922 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Lol that's football and the good anon and I are having a laugh. Omg for real you serious.. Hahaha.

Reply #694923 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Lol that's football and the good anon and I are having a laugh. Omg for real you serious.. Hahaha.

Reply #694924 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

" First cricket now basketball. Doesn't Aussie know the importance of sportsmanship. Hahaha. Sad we are going the wrong way."

what newspaper? you did type the above comment.

Reply #694925 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Why don't you do your homework. :)

Reply #694926 | Report this post


Letsgosixers  
Last year

At anon. Note the "we" in "sad we are going wrong way". Carl may well be a troll, but does it kill you that someone else may have a different opinion about things. We all have different perspectives. Cheerish this fact

Reply #694928 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Letsgosixers finally someone talking some sense. Tho I'm not a sixers fan hopefully embid will be healthy this coming season.

All I'm trying to point out here is. We are talking like we are the victim's yet we all know how kickert and goulding play. They hosted a lot of different countries even powerhouse Euro teams. Rugged tough new zealand and their mortal enemies china but no brawl what so ever. Just maybe it says something about us. Our attitude. Just like anon is showing. Mate they have vids I saw one it's clear that kickert is doing nasty stuffs pregame. Yes there was a kick but after how many times kickert push them in the warm ups. Goulding is a different story. Let's talk again after the fiba sanction. And you will see our so called players are not what you think they are playing the victims. (I played Div 1 so got a lot of contacts and access to vids.) Peace out anon. Haha.

Reply #694932 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I tracked Carl's IP address and it traces back to an ISP from the Phillipines

Reply #694948 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I tracked yours and it traces back to an ISP in *cough*bullshit*cough*, Idaho

Reply #694949 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl having am absolute meltdown of the complete and utter state of Philippines basketball. Midgets in mind and body. Maybe you should go outside sometime besides handing in your Newstart paperwork once a fortnight, your mums probably sick of you being at home all the time using her laptop.

Reply #694950 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

My big concern about this is the toxic vilification campaign throughout Filipino media and social media against the Australian national team. There is campaign to smear the team in various ways, from "racism" to "vandalism" to "disrespect" to other kinds of provocation. We would of course have a totally different team by 2023, but the seeds of animosity have been laid in this incident. There is strong tribalism on display, so even with different players, it doesn't matter. Perhaps it is a very vocal minority, but there seems to be very little acknowledgment of wrongdoing, with various provocations listed is an excuse or reason for mob violence. Very few Filipinos are critical of Filipino violence, and when they are, there is a harsh backlash against them. It may be the saving face culture creeping in, but it has gone beyond defending themselves. The vitriol of the campaign against the Aussies is shocking. It has even included death threats to people criticising the Gilas role in the violence. I would be seriously concerned as a player going to Philippines again.

Reply #694951 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Carl is definitely not from around here lol

Reply #694953 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

The Filipino team not showing any remorse is probably not going to play well for them when FIBA lays the smack down on players involved. There's a good chance that their coaching staff and majority of their team will face multi game suspensions. If that eventuates it’s very possible they may not even qualify for the World Cup. Boomers can easily cover Kickert, Sobey and Goulding and Maker.

I don’t think the Filipino team or fans realise just how much shite they are in.

Reply #694955 | Report this post


Letsgosixers  
Last year

@ rjd

You should hear what the aussies are saying about the phillipines !!!

Reply #694957 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

This anon is pretty funny. Omg. Go on thanks for making me laugh. Omg. Hahaha.

Reply #694958 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

May have been mentioned but can't be bothered going through 500 posts, but Nate Jawai needs to be in team. If he was on floor ain't no Filipino going after him or teammates.

Reply #694962 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yep put in Nate, Angry Anstey and Longley

Reply #694963 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Outback Shaq actually would've been great in the series

Reply #694964 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah, carl is a philipino pretending to be an Aussie here. That explains why he have been defending the disgraceful behaviour of phililpino players, staffs and their fans

Reply #694965 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Anon defending? How? Hahaha. You are delusional mate. Geez.

Reply #694966 | Report this post


Carl's Jr.  
Last year

I am small. Extremely small. Know what I'm sayin'?

Reply #694967 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

" Boomers can easily cover Kickert, Sobey and Goulding and Maker. "

Disagree entirely. Where the points will come from is a question. We also dont have a good enough pick and pop guy to replace Kickert - and Lemanis will not use Johnson. We will have to find a way to fill the gap, and Iran can potentially beat us if we don't have those four. I'd hope that only Kickert gets suspended.

Reply #694968 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

For the 1000th time Lemanis cannot use Johnson as he was not nominated in the original 24 man squad.

Reply #694969 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I doubt that Goulding & Sobey did enough to get disqualified for any games.
Maker & Kickert are still significant losses of course.

Reply #694970 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"For the 1000th time Lemanis cannot use Johnson as he was not nominated in the original 24 man squad."

LOL @ the idea of Lemanis using DJ even if he could and even if last night's entire front court rotation was suspended.

Reply #694971 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

@ME - Mccaron, DJ, Bogut. There's a start. Kickert is the only one likely to get a significant ban really. Maker won’t be available anyway. You also have Anderson and Newley should you need the experience.

Reply #694972 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

Yeah was thinking even a year's suspension for Thon wouldn't effect him being able to play the world cup. But whether he'd want to after this experience is another question

Reply #694973 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How is Cam Bairstow's health these days?

Reply #694974 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

When was the deadline to rule out DJ? The next window is months away - seems a bit backward to have to pick a squad of 24 so far in advance.

Reply #694975 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

One thing for sure, Covering 3 players is a lot easier than covering for 9 lol

Reply #694976 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

All up, it's a pretty tawdry affair, by players from both sides, and commentators. Australia already has an international reputation as a pretty bad sporting nation. Bad in the sense of our behaviour. This latest incident doesn’t do much to dissuade the world of that notion. More importantly, it looks like we’ll miss another opportunity internally to have a reasonable discussion about the behaviour of our sporting icons.

As if they don't have players to fill those 9 spots. It's a blessing in disguise for them. They want the coach out since 2013 not they got a chance.

Reply #694977 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Omg! I classy act. I Should be ashame being an Aussie. You just prove then that we are racist. The white criminals. Yes continue commenting like that anon. Very classy. Slow clap for you. :)

Reply #694980 | Report this post


Andrew  
Last year

I love the anons pretending to comment as Australians with their filipino english.

Reply #694986 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Yes, shamfrul dispray. I respect the Daniel Kickert, Philippines players we completely wong.I feel hard, lengthy ban.

Reply #694987 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Australia 5-1
Philippines 1-5
Guys do you think we will qualify?

Reply #694988 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Looks like my name is popular now. Haha. Still shamed being an Aussie first cricket now basketball. Oopps anon will be triggered yet again. Hahaha. Don't worry they call us white criminals for UK. :)

Reply #694989 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How can Philippines host 2023 World Cup after this despicable display from their players, coaches and fans?

Fiba should seriously consider letting another country to host the 2023 world cup

Reply #694992 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

carl, why ashamed?
you are not even an Aussie.

Reply #694993 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

You can say whatever you want anon.

Reply #694994 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Andrew, Australia is a multi cultural society. 50% of the population were born
in overseas. Many naturalized Aussies don't speak good English and English is only their second language. You should know these facts if you are from Auatralia, Andrew.

Reply #694995 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Australia should take over 2023 World Cup hosting rights.

Reply #694999 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I warned everyone on here about Carl and called him out during the Japan game, and also during the last qualifying window. He only ever appears during Asia qualifying. This incident has really "showcased" him.

Reply #695000 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes, he only appears during the asian qualification games.
Pretty much sums up where he is from. He is Most likely a philipino disguising himself as an Aussie.

Reply #695002 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Omg! I classy act. I Should be ashame being an Aussie. You just prove then that we are racist.
>The white criminals.


Come on mods time to ban this guy, clearly utilizing racism

Reply #695004 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

(url)0https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_1.4233870967741935%2C$multiply_0.6118980169971672%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_100/t_crop_custom/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto/acffa4c00ed05032f11934456390d30b48c68fa89/url)
Kickert and Carl.

Reply #695005 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Philo my a$#. Stick to basketball. This racist. That's why all of asia is againts us. You don't know how to respect others. Now when other people start talking nasty remarks but us you get angry like 0 to 100 real quick. Talk about double standards. Lmao.

Reply #695007 | Report this post


anon  
Last year

The only comment I'd like to make about that brawl, all despicability aside, is that it typically doesn't arise from just one thing. The offensive foul on Goulding followed by the Kickert elbow were certainly the triggers but this had been building up for some time. This was not normal from either team / nation and my prediction is that FIBA will come down hard on both teams. Given the footage I'd estimate the blame will be apportioned 60-40 Phil - Aus.

Reply #695010 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Someone at work suggested they had seen footage on the news this morning of an aussie player in warm ups flattening a Filo player. Interesting if true.

Reply #695013 | Report this post


johnnysack  
Last year

60-40 turn it up. 60-40 up (or 50-50) to the Kickert foul. But after that the main issue - the brawl - is 100% on the Philippines team. ABSOLUTELY NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT CONFLAGRATION. NONE.

Honestly I quite liked and respected the Gilas team up until that game. Though i didnt like the punk, above it all attitude that some of their players manifested on court at times - Pogoy, Wright, Blatche, and the absent Abueva being the worst offenders.

This occurrence though unfortunate doesn't surprise me - given some of the warning signs seen in their on court behaviour.

What happened (i think) is that they saw Japan beat Australia and they thought they had a real chance to do the same at home no less - then when reality struck, that they were still manifestly inferior - given some incitement they just lost their minds. End of story.

Reply #695015 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

^ think you are spot on the money here

Reply #695018 | Report this post


Goulding actually copped an errant elbow a couple of passes before the Offensive foul that sparked Kickert's reaction. If that was the tone of the game no wonder there were frustrations boiling over.

Reply #695022 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Goulding's agent is every bit the drama queen that his client is

Reply #695029 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

I'm a Kiwi so I'm fairly impartial and Kickert is the only Australian who should hang his head in shame. He behaved like an idiot but in no way did that justify the Philippines reaction.
The Philippines Basketball Association deserve a 2 year ban and the WC's hosting rights stripped for how their Players, Coaches, Support Staff, Security & Fans behaved.

Reply #695033 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

A lot of what is being said in the media and on forums is reactionary and full of passion, some a bit nationalistic and some just outright racist or subjective in the eye of the beholder but some also dealing with facts and common sense thankfully.

I would like BA especially to start dealing with any issues that come to light in regards to character, the reports of a clash in cultural differences, misunderstandings and perceptions of disrespect which seem to have gotten well and truly out of hand in the build up and have likely been a contributing factor in the resulting affray.

Not making excuses or looking for anything that must be done to be seen in a lighter manner, just saying that it is obvious that with more coming out and in the days to come we will start to understand that there are real leadership/cultural/sportsmanship issues that may need to be addressed within the Australian international sport.

I am not concerned with other countries, they need to address their own issues, I am concerned with real investigation and real solutions to any underlying problems we may have in light of what is going on in the world today which our country in some ways is getting sucked into.

Only interested in those who understand what I am referring to, no dick heads please...



Reply #695039 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Could you try to be a bit more vague please?

Reply #695040 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Bear. Spot on! Let's wait for fiba and nbl decissions.

Reply #695041 | Report this post


EssenX  
Last year

Kiwi here too and I have watched the incident over and over.

What was Kickert thinking? Way out of character. Regardless of Goulding or pregame, that was bad. But it should have ended there. Maybe had a heated confrontation between all players, with a bit of push and shove, and that's it. Kickert gets ejected, the other players get a stern talking to. Move on.

I have a lot of time for the Philippines and it’s people, but the behaviour we saw was despicable and has no place anywhere. That was extreme violence and worse than the Pacers and Detroit because of the way everyone got involved and how after the event many were celebrating and gleeful. Sickening.

The Australian bench showed incredible restraint.



Reply #695042 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Go protect your team mates and leave the bench you will get ejected and suspended unfortunately.
Someone gets the crap belted out of them and you can't do anything.

Reply #695048 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

The Australian Basketball team has plenty of heated battles with other Nations such as NZ over the years without incident.
I don't think Basketball Australia have anything to investigate, sure Kickert over reacted to the foul on Goulding but the rest is on the Philippines.
The Boomers bench showed class and restraint while the Filipino's were completely out of control!

Reply #695052 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

I agree. Nothing major for BA to do. From an aussie POV the only real problem was an individual action by Kickert, and FIBA will deal with him.

Reply #695053 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Could you blame them if the racist comments are true I won't. Remember the already hosted a lot Asians teams. Power house Euro teams like France, turkey etc. Even canada with nba players. The rough and rugged new zealand team. And china which is their mortal enemy in basketball and politics. But there was never a fight or brawl what so ever. I'm just just trying to justify your comment above doesn't mean they shouldn't be sanction by fiba. My something did really happened there for them to react that way. Maybe napoleon complex. Open your eyes.

Reply #695054 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

*maybe

Reply #695055 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Just stop Carl!! Pretty confident there was no racist comments made. Stop making excuses for your teams pathetic behaviour - its embarrassing.

Reply #695057 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Train it's not my team. Don't make me laugh. That's why we have bad reputation in international scene. Aussies like you make us look bad. The one's who are open minded. Not like you.

Reply #695059 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Just stop, Carl.
Use your school holidays for something fun like watching movies or playing video games.

Reply #695060 | Report this post


ME  
Last year

New video emerging of Goulding during the game doing what Goulding does - initiating contact and then bitching about it. He headbutt one of their shoulders while another Filo was on the freethrow line. He tried to barrel through a few players and pretend it was an accident. The Filos showed this and I can';t help but think they have a point. He was doing the underhanded things he always does and this time he got absolutely walloped for it. Did he deserve what he got? No. But I am not sure it is as clean cut as Gilas bad, Boomers good. However, of course when you look at the severity of what the Gilas did, they have brought their basketball nation into disrepute. But I think an argument could be made for multiple game suspension for Goulding, banning for Kickert and the banning of Gilas for up to a year.

Reply #695061 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

School holidays? Don't make me laugh. I've been donating millions of dollars in NSW, Victoria, Queensland through our PPPs and Asset Privatisation program. Imagine the traffic I did not do that. This anon I have done nothing. Accept the facts the get blind by your napoleon complexity. Goos thing there are Aussies like me who is open minded. And don't jump to conclusion like you.

Reply #695062 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Yes they have a lot of videos proving wrong to what this anon is talking a about our players being classy and word class. Hahaha. Nice way to act in a different soil.

Reply #695063 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes they have lots of videos just like you keep saying yet somehow none of them actually turn out to exist. I admire your vivid imagination Carl.

Reply #695064 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl now claims he is building Australia's roads. What a classic you are, Carl.

Reply #695067 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Yes unlike you. Just barking here and there.

Reply #695068 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

"Don't make me laugh. I've been donating millions of dollars in NSW, Victoria, Queensland through our PPPs and Asset Privatisation program."

Where do you find the time to do all this when your too busy being a fulltime hoops troll?

"Aussies like you make us look bad."

No, people like you make you look bad.

Reply #695070 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl I could see you a mile away. Now everyone can. lol

Reply #695071 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl is worse than Dazz and GWB put together

Reply #695073 | Report this post


Carl  
Last year

Just let me know if you need some donations. I can make some for the both of you. Now back to basketball new vids emerge so goulding is the first. Hmmm.

Reply #695074 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://www.change.org/p/international-basketball-federation-remove-phillippines-as-co-hosts-of-2023-fiba-world-cup

Theres a petition going around for the Philippines to be removed as hosts of the 2023 world cup

Reply #695077 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Lol to that Carl dude who is clearly Filipino with his Filipino/English writing skills. Not to mention his 'donations' to a government funded initiative in the PPP.

Reply #695082 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

Words are words Carl, and chairs to the head are chairs to the head. It doesn't matter what was said or happened before, during or after the game, the Filipino players, Coaches, Support Staff & Fans were out of control and reacted appallingly.
What is worse is that no one from the Philippines thinks they have done anything wrong judging by the gloating on social media and the "selfie" the team took court side and their statements to the media. Their accusations of racism and violence before tip off are nothing more than a weak attempt to justify their appalling behavior.
The Coaching Staff and Support Staff deserve the book thrown at them for their conduct and shouldn't have the privilege to have anything to be involved with Basketball again ever and the Players involved deserve every sanction (Kickert included).

I just hope FIBA react accordingly.

Reply #695084 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

It's good that Carl is on our forum. It gives us an insight to the Philippines mentality which led to the savagery we saw on court.

Reply #695097 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Re: Philippines hosting 2023 World Cup

Australia should replace them. Wouldn't that be appropriate.

Reply #695098 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl, what about the Gilas headbutt at the Asian games this year against their mortal enemy China? You have a short selective memory mate.

Reply #695103 | Report this post


johnnysack  
Last year

Japan and Philippines are co-hosts for 2023 - i'd love it if Japan got all the games. Doubt it will go that far.

I remember a talking to a member of tbe Aust nat team who played in the WCs last time they were in the Philippines (60s or 70s) and he told me it was crazy - high fences around court all sorts of stuff bring thrown on the court.

I doubt it's that bad now and i doubt FIBA will go that far.

Reply #695104 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

That was a nasty sucker punch that Sobey copped after the chair hit. At least no one got kicked in the johnnysack.

Reply #695106 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Japan is only one venue, every other venue is PH, so effectively a PH-hosted World Cup.

BTW what does their nickname "Gilas" mean?

Reply #695112 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

When will FIBA be announcing their decision to ban Philippines?

Reply #695113 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Having just watched the game with the exception of Kickert being 3rd man in and escalating the situation, anyone who said Australia instigated or started this are absolutely kidding themselves. Absolutely delusional!!

Reply #695150 | Report this post


AussiePride  
Last year

Nice work Mystro! Summed it up beautifully.

Reply #695153 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Carl is finally gone. Hooray!

Reply #695174 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

This carl guy is full of shite

Reply #695180 | Report this post


Big Ads  
Last year

Some of you might remember the time when "Blowout Troll" saved this location on this GPS. Boy he got plenty on his hook. I can't put my finger on why he came to mind this past week.

Reply #695181 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Hahaha

Reply #695183 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://youtu.be/KEULFh9E2TE

Nice brawl watch it anon from carl. Haha.

Reply #695185 | Report this post


Rat10  
Last year

Great article by Boti summarising what took place and also suggesting what FIBA should do in response:

http://www.botinagy.com/blog/melee-in-manila-a-challenge-for-fiba/

Reply #695194 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

How slow are FIBA with their decision.

Reply #695195 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Expected to make one at the end of the week. They've apparently given both teams a week to submit any evidence and statements.

Reply #695196 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Philippines are screwed.

Reply #695197 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/gilas-pilipinas/206479-sbp-al-panlilio-prepares-for-sanctions-fiba-brawl-philippines-australia

FIBA's disciplinary panel already notified SBP on Tuesday night, July 3. The letter contained incident reports from the referees and technical committee, as well as a request for SBP to submit all materials to support its statements.

"We're hoping we’ll be able to present our case to FIBA. We’ll be given some time to do that and submit our own statement, videos and evidences to show our cause. I’m sure they’re asking for the same from the Australian federation then give it to FIBA and await for the decision," explained Panlilio.

The Australian and Philippine basketball federations have a week to submit the materials to FIBA, which will release its decision during the tribunal held at the end of the qualifying window.

"The tribunal will take a look at both sides and also their own assessment. I'm glad they [gave] us this opportunity because again we will present the whole context not only the 4:01 mark of the 3rd quarter," added Panlilio.

Reply #695198 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Third world being third world.

Reply #695199 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

What can we expect from FIBA? Are they pretty competent and people should have confidence they'll hand out appropriate punishments? Or are they a bunch of nuffies that you never know what they'll do, like the AFL match review panel/officer

Reply #695200 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes third world being third world. And white convicts being white convicts. Same sh!t goes around.

Reply #695202 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

^ lol

Reply #695203 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Let FIBA do their thing. Hopefully they get it right. It's a decision that will take a fair bit of time and they need to get it right the first time. Otherwise there will be appeal after appeal I would imagine.

Reply #695212 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The Phillipine view........
Goulding a catalyst?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTFmx4eyOs

Reply #695234 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Last year

Reply #695236 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Funnily enough he is from the first world.

Reply #695240 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Brave guy to go in like that and not join in with a mob mentality. Did he get ejected at all or was he one of the 3 players left?

Can't believe more people didnt do that though tbh. A few months ago we had an incident in a social game where an opposition player went after one of our players who was half his size (took some swings, put him in head locks, etc). My instinct was to just get between the players and separate it. I still can't believe the barbaric instinct of 90% of the Filo players to run in and smash a few blokes.

Reply #695243 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year


Now this is a guy with real character:
Meet Troy Rike, the Filipino cadet who helped fend off Chris Goulding's attackers.


Wouldn't any normal person do this?

Reply #695244 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"Brave guy to go in like that and not join in with a mob mentality. Did he get ejected at all or was he one of the 3 players left?"

I think he is in the squad but was not in the team of 12

Reply #695245 | Report this post


mystro  
Last year

He left the bench, he should have been ejected.

Reply #695246 | Report this post


Bear  
Last year

Boti's article is an interesting point of view, while I think he isn't wrong with most of what he has written so far, it is an objective and impartial review by FIBA that we are all wanting I believe. But also a decision that makes some impact on the world stage, because like it or not, this is world stage stuff...

Reply #695249 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

I tend to agree with Boti's assessment too. Kickert's initial actions should be judged in isolation, not given further weight by the outrageous response by the Filipino team that followed it.

I'd like to know what weight FIBA places on provocation and retaliation, which will be the Gilas main argument for brawling. I would also like to know how FIBA treats intent to harm versus actual harm (for example, Maker's flying kick seemed to be intended to hit Romeo, but he missed). There is also the question whether violence to break up the brawl is more excusable (again, Maker appears to be aiming for this in his first clearing strike).

Is provocation and acts of retaliation any excuse whatsoever? Is intent as serious as actual harm? Is violence partially excused if the intent was to prevent others from assaulting a teammate?

From what I have seen on Filipino media and social media, I suspect Filipino fans and Australian fans will answer these questions very differently, with FIBA acting closer to the Australian assessment.

Reply #695261 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Oh Carl, where art thou?

Reply #695267 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Still here. Even posted a link. Hahaha. I'm watching some kiwis reaction video. It was hilarious. Hahaha. :)

Reply #695271 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I don't know or care what biased boti wrote about the incident but I do agree that Kickert actions should be judged in isolation. In isolation his actions were unwarranted and thuggish and he deserves a substantial suspension.

Reply #695273 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

BA should be suspending Kickert, not FIBA. He embarrassed the sport and the nation.

Reply #695274 | Report this post


Duke Fan  
Last year

Yeah there's a world of grey area between "Ghandi" and attempted decapitation. He could have found a more measured response in there somewhere

Reply #695275 | Report this post


AngusH  
Last year

"Embarrassed the nation"... what BS. Committed a dumb foul, but it would barely have made a single ripple if not for the unbelievably disproportionate response by the Philippines.

Reply #695276 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Anon my friend here's another reaction video from a kiwi. CARL.

https://youtu.be/3nbiXpDqN94

Reply #695277 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Angus, he committed the idiotic foul, overreacted in the pre-game lay-up line, taunted then guys chasing him after they stopped (while Goulding was getting pummelled), and flipped the bird at the crowd ant the end. That isn't what you do when you represent your country.

Reply #695281 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Yes nuff said.

Reply #695284 | Report this post


AD  
Last year

Love the patriotism, but time to take off the blinkers and prepare for sanctions.

General rule of thumb is that you penalise both teams and all players participating in a Melee.

You can't argue Australians were only acting in self-defence, when Kickert sparked the whole thing.
And Longley won't escape either. Again, you can't proclaim him a hero whilst castigating Philippines officials for getting involved.

FIBA will start with Kickert and penalise everyone who got involved from that point on. Depending on evidence, there may be harsher penalties for particularly egregious behaviour.

Reply #695285 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Good guess AD. Nice try.
Kickert sparked the whole thing. Please show us where, there is enough video footage about.
Longley did exactly what wrong? Maybe he will get a warning for being on the court. That's all.

Reply #695288 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Anon still doesn't want to hear things like that AD. He wants our players to go scratch free. Hell if there's no video that kickert was caught doing some mma move he will said he's innocent.

Reply #695289 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Lmao longley literally just went and stood there, it's not like he came in swinging and throwing chairs. Longley will be completely fine.

Apart from Kickerts initial strike, the physicality from Kickert/Thon was self defense. The Other Aussies didn't do anything.

Reply #695290 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

AD said Kickert started the whole thing. THat's simply incorrect.

Reply #695292 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Philippines started it by trying to trip Kickert in warmups. Clearly seen in the video.

Reply #695293 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Coaches and assistant coaches are allowed to enter the court to stop fights. Longley did nothing but try and restore calm. He will be fine. Unlike the Gilas assistant coach who apologised on twitter for hitting Goulding with a chair. One is in serious trouble...one is not!

Reply #695297 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

From a Lebanese forum. Nice whole of Asia is now mad to Aussie.

Quote Originally Posted by Sikatrix View Post
The moment the australian benches did not clear. The Australians wanted to call mommy. Pogoy wanted dirty basketball, Kickert wanted a fight. Gilas gave it to them.
their reputation precedes them. i think this will show other asian teams do not let be pushed around. if australia keeps on doing these things, wherever they play in asia they might see a fight, if the small filipinos can defend themselves why we cant. for sure once they play here again they will remember what happened last time and tread very very very carefully

Reply #695301 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Stop pasting stupid comments from other boards Carl. Yawn.

Reply #695303 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

At least we know how other countries feels. It's not stupid. It's their opinion.

Reply #695305 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I think it's more an inferiority complex than anything.

Reply #695310 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Who gives a toss about Lebanon Carl.

Reply #695322 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Because one hand picked comment from a Lebanese forums means anything right? I think you will find that anyone out there that matters would be disappointed in both teams and totally and utterly disgusted at the Filipino teams actions. Either way there's only one opinion that truly matters in all this and that’s FIBA.

Reply #695323 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

That's what I've been telling you for the past 2 days. Let's wait for fiba.

Reply #695324 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

"The moment the australian benches did not clear. " Is exactly what should have happened.

Reply #695325 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

If we go by comments in other forums and on YouTube, there is a strong sense of an inferiority complex. A lot of claims that Australians are racist, often relying on unsubstantiated trash-talk rumours, plus plenty of racist jibes too, focusing on a perception that 'whites' view themselves as superior. Never mind Australian multiculturalism. Perhaps also can be explained by a racially-based inferiority complex. Combine all that with blind nationalism, claims that the culture considers trash-talk as highly disrespectful, a culture that apparently considers the removal of advertising stickers as a great sign of disrespect, and a save face culture that will try to shift blame away from the Philippines team, it is a cocktail that has generated great hatred against the the Australian team and Australians generally. The ramifications of this will go beyond the current Boomers playing group.

If the trash-talking issue is genuinely true, it is going to be interesting to see how other teams handle this information. Will they be more culturally sensitive, or will they use it against the Philippines team? It has exposed the Philippines team as being sensitive to something that is common in basketball. Other teams may want to put them off their game by riling them up with some trash-talk.

Reply #695331 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The thing is the comments are coming from all parts of asia. Even the chinese are siding with the filos.

Reply #695332 | Report this post


rjd  
Last year

When the game became 5 vs 3, how about this as an idea to stop it from becoming a total farce as it did: Lemanis instructs two players to stay off, making it a competitive 3 vs 3. Perhaps the Boomers also wanted to leave sooner after the debacle, but at least this idea would've made it a bit more interesting competitively when play resumed.

Reply #695333 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Neither side was really playing properly, both just wanted to leave asap I reckon. Even if you ignore all the commotion that went on and the circumstances that led to it, no ones gunna wanna risk getting injured in some pisstake 5v3 or 3v3. It's a joke they let it continue.

Reply #695335 | Report this post


EssenX  
Last year

Even if that gross generalisation was true, that says more about Asia than Australia.

Reply #695337 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

Carl, I have ready plenty of comments from the Asian community that contradict your statement. Opinions will differ on alignment. Both teams have to accept responsibility for their part in bringing the game into disrepute. The " they started first" argument is pretty pathetic. Even taking into consideration Kickerts actions, it's absolutely no justification for what most of the Filipino team and associates responded with. The whole sticker, racist propaganda is just nonsense.

Reply #695338 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

I told you let's wait for fiba. If they can really prove the there are some racist rants from our players goodluck to us. But surely the one who throws the chair and the sucker punch should be ban in any fiba event. Also the assistant coach must be ban forever. All the players involved on both sides at least 2 to 10 games. Carl. :)

Reply #695339 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

*that

Reply #695340 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Asia can't stand how good we are. It sucks for them when our C team dominate the continent. Luckily FIBA HQ is in Europe.

Reply #695342 | Report this post


Train  
Last year

"From our player"
So your finally admitting they are your team now.

Reply #695344 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

From our player meaning the boomers. Read again train. Omg. Haha.

Reply #695350 | Report this post


EssenX  
Last year

What if the evidence that comes out shows that it was the Philippines trash talking and making racist remarks?

Reply #695351 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Fiba must ban them case closed. Carl.

Reply #695356 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

The bottom line here is the Philippines are going to be getting the bulk of the penalties/sanctions. It's as simple as that.

Reply #695357 | Report this post


Dave Q  
Last year

It is an interesting issue re: the stickers. On one hand you have PH officials suggesting it is close to desecration. OK, I accept that. Boomers staff did the wrong thing by taking matters into their own hands. However, I sincerely doubt Boomers staff removed the offending court advertising out of spite. Most of the gents in the Boomers squad have played on courts in many countries far and wide (I imagine)... could it be that the stickers WERE in fact slippery and a legit danger? Had any games been held with those stickers intact?

Just curious.

From what I have seen, Luc and Rike (and maybe Delly who by the vision was exceptionally keen to join the fray from the bench) are the only people in this whole debacle who can hold their heads up.

Reply #695358 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

@Dave, agree that it wouldn'thave been out of spite, below is from an article on it:

Moore said Basketball Australia later apologised to the Philippines Basketball Association.

"We had a team shootaround the day before, floor decals are always something that you look at," he said.

"We trained, had numerous players fall and fall heavily and our team management undertook a course of action that we actually apologised for. We ripped the decals up.

"That wasn't the smartest move we made.

"There's no doubt that heightened the issue, but that was more from an administrator, federation-to-federation part as opposed to players."

Reply #695360 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

NOt all the Filipinos were punching and throwing chairs.
A good story here in the midst of so much bad press.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/basketball/philippines-player-troy-rike-praised-for-protecting-boomer-chris-goulding/news-story/e25ea39bc09a8be79bb92548e7171695

Reply #695385 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Last year

Here you go Carl. The brawl has its own wikipedia page now, so you can go and add all your real truth to it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines-Australia_basketball_brawl

Reply #695566 | Report this post




 

Reply to this topic

Random name suggestion for anonymous posters: Vesta 83

Rules:You must read the Terms of Use. No spam, no offensive material, no sniping at other clubs, no 'who cares?'-type comments, no naming or bashing under 18 players. Learn how to embed YouTube videos or tweets

Please proof-read your post before submitting as you will not be able to edit it afterwards.



Close ads
PickStar - The best place to book sports stars
Westside Basketball Association
Dunk.com.au - Custom basketball uniforms

Advertise on Hoops to a very focused, local and sports-keen audience. Email for rates and options.

Recent Posts



Invoicing clients? Stay productive with Punch, the insightful time tracker that earns you more.

Special offer: $30/month Pay $100 for lifetime access. Sign up now!

.


An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 1:08 pm, Tue 10 Dec 2019 | Posts: 807,158 | Last 7 days: 1,458