Curious
Years ago
I have recently heard of a player who made a Seniors side but because he is only sixteen the club has stated that he must play in the junior league too. This particular person is a basketball umpire on Friday nights and since that is his only money, doesn't want to give it up.
I was just wondering if all clubs have this policy?
i think that is fair enough. There are basketball games on all days somewhere in adelaide.
Not to mention quite a few of our junior umpires will play and umpire on the same night. E.g. Umpire the u12's game, have a break, play in the 16's then umpire the 18's (as an example).
I dont know if its an actual policy or just generally accepted.
Wateva
Years ago
One of the reasons we have referee problems is because players are put under pressure by their clubs/coaches to not ref so that they can play better. One question. If we run out of referees what will become of the competition?
Mustafah
Years ago
Does the lad want to play juniors. If not I would let him play where he wants.
Why does a kid that's 16 want to play seniors? Why not just grab a group of mates and make a Social team in the desired grade?
Wateva
Years ago
The kid has made a commitment to referree. Despite all the crap he gets as a referee. But still wants to play for his club. The only difference between him playing seniors and juniors is the amount of fees he has to pay to the club. What a joke!
Anon
Years ago
Players should fulfill their junior commitments first - they have plenty of time to play seniors. Pushing young players up too quickly could result in burnout or injuries at young age (lets face it, senior basketball is not pretty) Also why deplete your junior teams so early.
BigAl
Years ago
I know the boy in question. He is a core ref at a specific stadium, and is relied on to be there every week. If he was in juniors he would be playing U20s anyway (turns 17 before 31 Dec) so what's the difference? At the moment it looks like the club will be losing him due to their unflexibility
Wateva
Years ago
What would burn a player out quicker? Playing in seniors early or reffing three games on a night and playing 1? But it's not you guys that need to be convinced. It's the dumbasses in the club, who can't seem to see that he wants to still play for the club and that he is still trying to make himself available whilst maintaining his commitments as a referee.
Mustafah
Years ago
What is written in the specific bylaws for the Club?
If it says that he has to play juniors then he is bound by the club bylaws.
Curious
Years ago
Apologies if I haven't made it clear.
1. He cannot play on a Friday night due to umpiring div 1 games all night, he rarely has a break.
2. This is his only income rather than become a burger boy and he has made a large commitment to umpiring.
3. The club in question could not field a seniors team so he applied to play as it is a weeknight where he has time to play.
4. The club in question has not provided a written bylaw which states that he must also play juniors whilst playing for seniors, a 17 year old playing seniors is not an issue.
I hope this helps the discussion for all.
BigAl
Years ago
Thanks for the clarification, Curious. Just to make sure I've got this right.
The club isn't actually stopping him playing for the seniors - but he HAS to play for a junior team AS WELL.
So much for clubs worrying about injury or burnout, Anon - it seems this club is begging for it!
Maybe it comes down to one of two things:
1. Junior fees - let's grab the last few dollars that we can here.
2. He's good enough for seniors - let's try to bolster our Junior team for a better chance at the finals.
I wonder which it is...
Wateva
Years ago
What can a club do appart from physically prevent him from playing for them? Can they really do anything to stop him playing. He's prepared to pay his fees so they can't stop him from playing fopr being unfinancial.
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