Anonymous
Two months ago

WA SBL - Oct

The goldfields giants and s/w slammers have been very quiet since there seasons ended. the giants in particular are always on the front foot with there signings and have been very public about them.
whats happening with both of these clubs .
NO coaches and NO signings .

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Giants are defo in some trouble off court and nearly half way through October, dragging their feet with advertising for head coach.

Havent really had much success with attracting/retaining Oz players let alone coaches - assumptions would be that would have appointed coaches locally and concentrated efforts on recruitment.

Hope im wrong but sad how such a proud club has gone through such a tough few years with no signs of improvement, again based on outsider looking in.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Giants have their HC position advertised on their website and FB page.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Earnest Ross to Joondalup. Seems Ben Ettridge has pulled out his immigration map like he complained about at the start of the year. Spent all year having a sook about it.

http://sbl.asn.au/2018/04/13/mens-sbl-preview-week-5/

Have a read of how smug and ridiculous this article is and then see what he's just done to the Buccs. Poaching players and paying big money to get them down to Joondalup. But yeah all his players are home grown.

#builtnotbought

Seems to be a bit of a false hashtag now doesn't it?

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Anon  
Two months ago

how's your off-season Wunders?

The term distracted comes to mind

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Moot  
Two months ago

Offseason..... Been to 3 weddings, living beach side, drinking beers, retired. Pissing my self laughing at Ben Dover and his preaching.
He probably should have not put that photo up before he choked again.
#builtnotbought

Ben Dover firstly went at our organisation publicly, then goes at me personally, game on.. I've got all the time in the world to play this one out.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

With Kyle Armour moving to Lakeside wouldn't surprise me if Jake Burston was to follow.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Who is Jake Burston?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Are teams targeting young Grida yet?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Grida been targeted heavily in the SEABL / whatever the new league will be
would be suprised to see him return to Perth unless a club can fork out the $$$. He would deserve every cent of it too

i cant help but laugh at the built not bought hashtag

wunders enjoy your retirement mate, well deserved after a great sbl career

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Sunset Sam  
Two months ago

Willetton are no different under the Black regime when it comes to recruiting for MSBL...

Jay Bowie (Giants)
Damian Scott (Cougars)
Ray Turner (Redbacks)
Maurice Burrows (Buccs/Redbacks)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I am really getting worried about the South West Slammers ability to field a team next season. Rumour had Teny Puot returning but don't think that will happening and they look like losing Durnin, Voelkel and Thompson at the very least. Any other rumours of signings or re-signings for that club???

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Slammers need a coach!

they threw everything at getting Utley but missed out.

players find it hard to commit to playing for a club not knowing who the coach will be

they are essentially back to the pre-Ty Harrelson era where they won 1 game in approx 3 seasons

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buster  
Two months ago

With super coach Canneloni down in Bunbury, not hard to see why players are vacating.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Looks like a bunch of 15 year olds will have to step up!!! Exciting times

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

HAHA this is gold!

Lets be honest Ettridge (Ben Dover) has no integrity at all.

He has not developed one player at all.

Reece Maxwell who is a hell of a kid, deserves a championship but wont get it under ego, or ben-dover, Maxy deserves better.

The GF's he has lost when odds on favourite is hilarious.
Choke once, choke twice, but not a third.

Classic Ben Dover.



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Anon  
Two months ago

Highly amusing seeing a perennial choker acuse another of being a perennial choker.

It takes a lot to get to the big dance. And I bet you wish you had the chance to win a few (or even 1) just like Ben dover has.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

lol @ Sunset Sam.

3 of those players you names are imports who shop themselves around hahahah of course you'd take a proven player over some empty promise (alla Zollo, Guerin, Palkert)

Let me have a go.

Kalamunda (Davis, Timms)
Cockburn (Steph Jones, Priestley, Gandini, Chan)
East Perth (Davis, Easley, Tawhiti, Anthony)
Stirling (Kisha Lee)
Hawks (Holmen, Thomas, Cassir)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Giants have made some positive strides in the last few years fielding men's and women’s division one sides, but they are still struggling big tome on the court. They will be onto their sixth coach in the last seven years and have only been able to get a handful of Perth players up in that time. Very sad times. A good Kalgoorlie team makes for a better league

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Anon  
Two months ago

Giants have been working hard behind the scenes over the past month or so and will be making some significant announcements over the next few weeks.

They will be BIG improvers in 2019.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"lol @ Sunset Sam.

3 of those players you names are imports who shop themselves around hahahah of course you'd take a proven player over some empty promise (alla Zollo, Guerin, Palkert)"

Why is Palkert mentioned there? He didn't rip the league up but he was very solid. 20/10 and led the league in blocks at 2.5 a game.... Consistent outside shooter at 6"10.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Palkert AKA the big cat!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

sorry I meant that TJ Hallice kid

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

WOLFPACK

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Stiendel to woolves next.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Home grown talent.

Import x 2
Ross
Stiendel
Huntington
Salinas
Trian

Top 7 players not wolves locals.

If you cant beat them join them.
Nothing wrong with that, its in the rules.

Just please don't preach otherwise.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

the strength of the wolf is in the pack

unless you can buy in stronger wolves for hire

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

WOLFPACK

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

i think thats the biggest issue around with the discontent of the Wolves - the preaching aspect. Hard to assemble home grown and be competitive in a comp that continue to get better each year

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Anon  
Two months ago

No chance wolves have Ross plus 2 imports plus steindl.

Someone is just making shut up now.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Kayla not Clint. Pirini just announced as well

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Wonder how Denehey feels about signing now after Wolves just signed Pirini plus Amos also expected back.
Very crowded at point guard

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Etto going for 4 straight!!
I believe in you!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

wolfpack

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Anon  
Two months ago

big balls, big budget, big & attractive to ballers

WOLFPACK

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

BIGBALLER

WOLFPACK

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Anonomous  
Two months ago

Buy, buy, buy. Then tell us how you develop players. Nix had the talent at the Hawks, had talent at Bunbury, had bought talent at Redbacks and produced SFA. Ettridge had players bought from everywhere - and then someone who could coach came along. Hello Parsons - hello three peat Ettridge. Whole club is a failure. Millions of juniors and they do - and have done - nothing with them since forever.

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Anon  
Two months ago

hahah what a knob ^

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Tall Poppy Syndrome  
Two months ago

Everyone complains until their club does the same. We get the players because we're an attractive club to come to, because we have the level of professionalism a state league club should.

WOLFPACK AHWOO AHWOO AHWOO

Hahaha

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

More like players are attracted to the $$$.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

That level of professionalism got you second bottom last year and a coach that couldn't even turn up every week. So attractive!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Perhaos you mean attracted to the Paypack not the wolfpack

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Confused  
Two months ago

I'm new here. Trying in vain to catch up.

Do other clubs pay players, or is that disalllowed?

Do other clubs actually have any money, or is that a sensitive topic?

Is there grants they can seek, or maybe some sausage sizzles?

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Anon  
Two months ago

Does anyone actually know what players are being paid? Is there a salary cap and do all clubs pay players or only a few?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Leader$ of the Pack

WOLVE$ $BL

#BOUGHTNOTBUILT

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Greenwood Gazette  
Two months ago

Men's SBL Budgets based purely on not very much at all aside from being the best fictitious journalistic endeavour this side of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Joondalup $100000
Coach Ettridge commands $20000 for his expert services of being the most grounded, in-touch coach in the League. Then there are the payments for club veterans Salinas, Iliadis & Huntington who are Joondalup 'born and bred', each receiving approximately $500 per week. So $1500 per week x 22 week season puts us around the 30k mark; Earnest Ross has just signed on for the mates rates price of $1200 per week, which is a bargain for such a team oriented, wins above stats star that he is. So that is another 25k in the bank and its easy to see why the Wolves are the most professional run club in the league when they have to somehow account for all these funds and remain below the SBL threshold.
Perth $90000
Coach Lackovic is on 30k per year, mainly for the latest hair products, top of the line man bags and some health supplements because lets face it, who needs to actually invest in knowledge on how to beat zones and things of that nature when you have Shawn Redhage on 25k for the season when he's not creating awkward moments on Wildcats commentary trying to prove he has a sense of humour versus Homicide? Then you have Vigor on 20k plus business class flights to England at the end of each season as well as the 10k for subscription service to Maori Ballers Anonymous, which leaves approx 5k to pay whoever feels like playing all season then sitting on the bench all finals to get knocked out in the quarters or semis

Rest of the League $300000 give or take a few thou depending on how many Oceania/Unrestricted NBL players the Slammers, Buccs, Giants & Flames can find.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I've also heard poached locals at Wolves get $500 per game.

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Anon  
Two months ago

So many broke haters

Less bibles more strategies

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf.....The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf.....The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf.....The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf.....The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......The big bad wolf............The big bad wolf.............the big bad wolf...............the big bad wolf......

HAWKIES HAWKIES HAWKIES HAWKIES HAWKIES, HAWKIES HAWKIES

INCY BITSY SPIDER CLIMBED UP THE WATER SPOUT, DOWN CAME THE RAIN AND WATCH THE SPIDER OUT.

OH WE'RE FROM COUGAR LAND, A FIGHTING FURY WE'RE FROM COUGAR LAND

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I THINK YOU MEAN "WASHED" THE SPIDER OUT

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

WSBL - WOLVES.

AMOS
DENEHEY
PRIYINI

denehey is not a point guard , she will play the 2 guard .
however saying that I would take Chelsea belcher over Georgia denehey.

they are stacked if the keep there veterans and add 2x imports.
steindel will be naturalised as well.

AMOS
PRIYINI
DENEHEY
BELCHER
MARTIN
IRONMONGER
KIDNER
STEINDEL

2 IMPORTS ?

with that squad they will challenge lakeside ,magic etc.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Will Amos be back by the beginning of the season? I doubt it.

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Luigi  
Two months ago

Lakeside will be average next year without Schwagg and Fipps. Going to be hard to get imports as good as either of them.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

well according to the Wolves when they announced her signing she is:

"Denehey is fast emerging as one of the best point guard's in the State, a fast and polished performer with elite decision-making abilities"

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=0-892-0-0-0&sID=9413&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=63511307


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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I don't think lakeside will be average.
Mansfield will find 1 import and schagmeyer will qualify for finals.
wouldn't surprise to see a bench wsbl player non- restricted line-up for them as well

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Schwagmeyer is not playing SBL next year

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Good move by Miotti to drive through traffic in the car to be recruited over the top of and already forgotten!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Better than playing at Cockburn and not improving. More talent, better practice, less court time perhaps but vast improvements in your game.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Cockburn is where basketball careers go to die

keep up

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

where has miotti ended up playing ?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Pal to Rockingham https://www.facebook.com/events/260581874600143/permalink/264187544239576/

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Cockburn is where basketball careers go to die"

Name one?

Cockburn operates on 10-30% budget of other clubs.
Its an absolute credit they get done what they do with out the budget.

If they had 2 x imports for the last 15yrs like everyone else (even playing field) they likely win half that in championships.
On average they have had the bets locals over that time.

Look at that stats when they have 2 x imports, its actually incredible.

They are facts.



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Anon  
Two months ago

Thinking Cockburn would have won 7 championships in 15 years. Hahahahahahaha

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

the cockburn women's program is one big donut

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Steph Jones & Keisha Lee are imports - they are facts

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cockburn work on half the budget? If only they got two imports? What are you on about? Cockburn have had two imports many times. They are often duds in the recent years which is the problem. The years they actually get good imports they are some of the best in the league.

You made the comment about the best locals. Who? Gavin Field! who else? If Cockburn work on 10-30% of the budget of other clubs, then perhaps that is a very good sign to poor management and leadership from the top > downwards.

You can't use that as an excuse forever, it is not a positive. If your club is not financially stable then thats on the management.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

craig Reynolds and the rockingham womens program are about to sign demi skinner from south Australia a former Australian junior player , Adelaide lightning player. skinner played in sa premier league last season and is rated as one of the top players in the competition. skinner is an inside outside player and stands ' 6-1 ' - good pick up.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

QUOTE Steph Jones & Keisha Lee are imports - they are facts


HAHA obviously talking abt real basketball (Mens).

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Anon  
Two months ago

Kisha Lee is a permanent resident, so she's not an import.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

last years leading point scorer and all star 5 player anita brown is not being re-signed by Mandurah magic and is looking for a new club.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

word is Tigers are now looking to upgrade on their own Mitch Clarke for Mitch Clarke (Hawks). Also heard Caleb Davis is heading that way..

1. Andrew Black
2. Damien Scott
3. Caleb Davis
4. Maurice Barrow
5. Adrian Forbes

Michael Garbellini
Mitchell Clarke
Scott Elder
Nic Cody
Hayden Noordhoek
Jake Burston (subject to Jem Wolfie being offered a season pass)

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DaHuzyBru  
Two months ago

hahaha Hawks' Mitch Clarke aint going anywhere

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Tigers should look to upgrade their coach first. No amount of talent is going to win them a 'chip if they have an avg coach.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Tigers need a point guard with departure of Armour! Not sure if Black is the answer at PG

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Tigers tried to get Mitch Clarke to change teams and Lochy Cummings back
Both are staying with the Hawks

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Tigers have Hamish Cummings sitting right there. He is young but he is very good. They may as well get a good year out of him before he goes to college!

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Anonymous  
Last month

goldfields giants are apparently facing a major money issue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Think you have your Associations mixed up. slammers in dire straits

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Anonymous  
Last month

Proof?

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Anonymous  
Last month

No Board
No junior competition
Players walking away - Durnin gone, Denehey gone, Burrows gone

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Mr Jones  
Last month

John Triscari named Slammers MSBL coach. What happened to Catalano? Good move, this past season they missed playoffs for the first time in several seasons.. they weren't even close to making it in fact. Clearly the coach was sub standard

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Anonymous  
Last month

Giants are indeed struggling with financial issues and the fact that they have still yet to announce a coach for next year, can only assume that another year/s of bottom dwelling again - such a shame that the regional clubs are struggling. Certainly makes for a better comp when regional teams are in a stronger position on/off court

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Ganymede 91  
Last month

Mmmm, Wolves veteran Nikita Martin to Perry Lakes? Interesting!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

im sure nikita martin wasn't happy with what went on this yr. hawks could also see megan McKay ? if she decides to keep in shape after college.would dominate most bigs.
could we also see the return of maddi dennis perhaps for Kalamunda ?
I think Nathan winch and the slammers have got their import selection in makahlia dyer wrong - they need bigs .

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Anonymous  
Last month

*Grover

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Anon  
Last month

Mansfield is a big fan of Maddie Dennis and got her to Kalamunda. She would be a good local replacement for Fipps with a good outside shot and can also play tall.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Dennis and Fipps aren't the same position or player type.

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Anonymous  
Last month

sorry !! grover-winch . I forget he said " I do ".

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Anonymous  
Last month

Rocko with the open cheque book

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Anonymous  
Last month

Development can be tricky to judge. Wolves have developed some and have def poached players. Willetton too. Redbacks too. But sometimes, you want a title.

Redbacks for example had a visible and successful junior development pathway under Harris and became a strong club on the back of those juniors. Good enough for a top four or five club. But there's no way Harris was good enough to win a title. Loud, obnoxious, over emotional.

Once the foundation was in place, they switch to Lako. Nobody buys his nonsense about development, but he won the club its first championship since '97. No way Harris gets that done. Development played a role, then it was time to swing big.

Every club goes through cycles. Is it necessary to bash them? Sure, call Lako and Ettridge out on their BS but don't get out of hand!

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Anonymous  
Last month

I said Rocko not Lacko if you are responding to previous post

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Anonymous  
Last month

Two solid imports for Flames now https://thewest.com.au/news/sound-southern-telegraph/new-rockingham-flames-import-white-ticks-all-the-boxes-says-coach-petrik-ng-b881014597z

Hire one-and-done at Rocko it seems

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koberulz  
Last month

Is there a way to keep track of signings other than following every club on social media?

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Anonymous  
Last month

SBL Transactions page https://www.facebook.com/events/260581874600143/268174157174248/

Thought you would have been all over this, koberulz.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What is the salary like in the WA SBL ?

Do they recruit interstate with what kind of packages do they offer ?

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koberulz  
Last month

SBL Transactions page https://www.facebook.com/events/260581874600143/268174157174248/
Not sure why the SBL page couldn't just post those itself.

Not to mention I can think of five or six signings that aren't listed there.

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Anon  
Last month

Hire still at flames too.

Hire
Ritchart (import)
White (import)
Pal
Godfrey
Travers
Robbins
Beard brothers

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Anonymous  
Last month

love to see that rocko pay roll.

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educated dropout  
Last month

Why we care now about one clubs payroll but we just ignore two other clubs doing it for god knows how many years seems a bit hypocritical to me. or maybe the latest anon is from one of those two aforementioned clubs and wants to divert away from their blatant breaking of the league rules for so long?

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misalienous  
Last month

could not agree more dropout!

Club 1
Import 1 $$$
Import 2 $$$
huntington $$
iliadis $$
salinas $$
matacz $$
sullivan $$

Club 2
redhage $$$$$
import 1 $$$
import 2 $$$
vigor $$$
wagner $$
hussey $$
smith $$

2019 Flames
Hire $$$$
Ritchart $$$
Davis $$$
Godfrey $$
Pal $$
Robbins $$

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Anonymous  
Last month

Seb and Damo wouldnt be getting a pay check for a few years now.

Etto is the best!

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Anon  
Last month

If any of those clubs were actually paying the people you have listed - they would be breaching the salary cap

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hire was not unrestricted last season. Will he be unrestricted based on NBL minutes?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Robbins back in basketball. Thats good for the leagues suspension rates and fights per game and dirty plays per minute.

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misalienous  
Last month

he is currently 7.5 mins per game. can not see that increasing a whole heap to get him over the 10 minute limit per game average. if he did become restricted, the flames could look at getting kevin white back possibly?

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Anonnn  
Last month

Rule changed to 14 mins this year I believe.

Greg will be luck to average half that by year end

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Anonymous  
Last month

misalienous
Surprisingly, Kevin White is averaging 18.45 mins a game for Illawarra atm!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ettridge cops a bit of flack.
But I guess at least he gets his teams to the GF's.

I think apart from his arrogance and contradicting articles, the main backlash comes on GF night.

He has been favourite in each of those 3 games and lost.
If you swapped Parsons and Ettridge in 2016 & 2018 then Wolves win by double figures both games.

2017 not so much, but still the margin was insane.

#4peat

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koberulz  
Last month

Why we care now about one clubs payroll but we just ignore two other clubs doing it for god knows how many years seems a bit hypocritical to me.
You must be new here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

you guys forget that whilst these clubs pay all of the imports, nbl players and other local talent, these infamous coaches themselves dont come cheap.

Lako and Ettridge probably on the $15k+ range per season

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koberulz  
Last month

I'm curious as to whether the people who throw around numbers in these threads have any actual knowledge of what sort of money gets spent in the league. I'm guessing not, because the numbers I do see are so wildly inaccurate it's not funny.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Your top 5 Aussie players maybe max $350 per week (not game).
Decent Aussies players $200 and under per week.
Heap of plebs getting fuel or taking $50 a game just to say they are paid.

That really is abt it.



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Anonymous  
Last month

its called creative accounting

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Anonymous  
Last month

Koberulz, so what are the accurate numbers then?

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Anonymous  
Last month

True imports or restricted players - $550 to $1000 per week
Good unrestricted Australian - $400 to $800 per week
Handy local - $200 to $300 per week

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ha ha ... it's obvious this forum is full of keyboard warriors rather than club volunteers. How about you all get involved in your club and sbl teams as you might be surprised what the payment facts look like.
Although ... you wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of a good slander!

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Perthworld  
Last month

Good unrestricted Aussies at Joondalup $500/game.

Source: player from Wolves.

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Anon  
Last month

Wolves Adminstrators on 150k

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Anonymous  
Last month

Chris Clausen on $500!

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koberulz  
Last month

Koberulz, so what are the accurate numbers then?
None of your business.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thanks Koberulz, it was a serious question and was hoping for a reasonable reply

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Anonymous  
Last month

On another note, how much are the league CEO's And GM’s worth?

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Anonymous  
Last month

there is no way Lako and Ettridge are making $15K a year.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lacko and Ettridge are on $15000 easily. Parsons didn't get resigned at Cockburn because he wanted an increase in pay after winning a championship and Cockburn are supposedly poor. (If you listen to the board there) so I am sure Redbcaks and Wolves are paying their coaches around that maybe a tiny bit less.

Players get paid everywhere around the league and yes plebs are getting $50 for fuel to make them want to stay at the clubs they are at and to make them feel like they are any good. It's a ploy to keep juniors around the club.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Good unrestricted Australian - $400 to $800 per week

HAHA mate tell me one Aussie that would be getting $800 per week.

The Aussies in this league are very watered down.
Aside from say Gav Field who is it the best Aussie by a country mile.

Who else is worth over $400 a week?

If they are any good they are off playing elsewhere.

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Anonymous  
Last month

People that laugh at those numbers are clearly not involved in discussions and contracts with players over the last couple of seasons.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If Ettridge is on $15,000 then Parsons must be on $20,000+

He clearly has Ettridge covered in coaching ability.

Anytime a coach has less talent then the opposition coach and continually gets the better off him speaks volumes on ones ability to coach.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just because someone is better it doesnt mean they get paid more. Perry Lakes has a smaller budget than Redbacks and Wolves, and now you could probably throw Flames into that mix.

Parsons would be on decent money for SBL coaches but not as much as the two previously mentioned.

Lets not forget probably the oldest trick in the book. put $150 through on the books and we will pay you the rest to coach a wabl team or do a camp or coach in an Academy. the books might say one thing, but the actual income in reality is often far higher.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Parsons didn't get resigned at Cockburn because he wanted an increase in pay after winning a championship and Cockburn are supposedly poor."

well that's a bit skewed... he left Cockburn after two years of basically being team manager and sbl director as well. He wanted less club responsibility and more just team-based responsibility.

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Anonymous  
Last month

about 8-10 years ago know both Justin brown and adrain mastrovich were receiving $ 750 per game .
so I agree, people scoffing about this sort of money have no idea.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I know australian woman that have been paid 500.00 a game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I know a coach in the SBL who is not ettrige lako or parsons that is on $15k

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Anonymous  
Last month

Parsons was doing more than just coaching at Cockburn no one is disputing that but he did also want more money (DESERVEDLY SO!) and they wouldn't come to the party at all. What a dumb decision by Cockburn.


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Anonymous  
Last month

Cockburn have no money though...

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koberulz  
Last month

about 8-10 years ago know both Justin brown and adrain mastrovich were receiving $ 750 per game .
so I agree, people scoffing about this sort of money have no idea.
Is it reasonable to believe a couple of players in the league are making that? Perhaps. Assuming arguendo that you have any more credibility than anyone else.

But it gets thrown out as a standard mid-range starter figure. I've seen team lists with salaries on here where both imports are earning $1500 a game. It's laughable.

Then there's the question of how many games these guys played. If they only played 2/3rds of the season, $750/game becomes an entirely unremarkable figure.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There are many other Aussies in the league that provide a lot for a team not just scoring. If other Aussies took as many shots, they would be sure to put up similar numbers.
Look at guys in the past who were putting up good numbers and have tweaked their games to suit teams needs. Illiadis, Della, Jervis, Williamson, Thomas, Salinas, Hughes, Prince, Tovey, DJ, Ralph, Armour, Bruton, Tupea are all Aussies and still in the league and contribute to the teams success.

Recent ones Scott, Field, Cummings, Purser, Ellis, Godfrey, Vigor, Hussey, Michaels, and tonnes of other young Aussies doing their thing. There are plenty of good Australian talents, not just one.

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Anonymous  
Last month

wolves women buying themselves the 'ship. Amber Land heading north

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Anonymous  
Last month

Dagastino not off to a good start

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Anonymous  
Last month

WOLFPACK

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Anonymous  
Last month

aaaahhhhwoooo

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Pug 74  
Last month

From the CEO on twitter,
There's a range of opinions in WA about @WolfpackSBL but one thing that can’t be denied is that we continually recruit - and support - really good people.

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Perthworld  
Last month

I'm a Wolfpack supporter but what's the point when we'll choke in yet another Grand Final. :/

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Anonymous  
Last month

What the ceo means
#buynotbuild

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Anonymous  
Last month

Congratulations Wolfpack. A great wsbl offseason already.
CEO made it clear that if the club didn't have the talent from their massive junior competitions then they would poach the very best juniors from other clubs and pay for the very best players and coaches to win ... win ... win!!!
Wolves wsbl will run with a bigger spend than most men’s teams and it will be daylight to the second spend in wsbl.
Add steindl at 15-20k to that team and they are frightening in ability and budget!
And coach can now get paid outside cap as legit development staff so they can spend spend spend even more!!
Wolves deserve to win. They have earned it from their massive junior competitions and can now buy it!!
After all that is what wsbl is now about ... poach the very best juniors and players from other clubs ... abandon your juniors ... state it’s ok because they are 'good people’ ... spend spend spend and win!
Aaaahhhhhwwooooo ... wwwwiiiinnnnnn at all cost!! ... literally!
Go wolves!!!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

^ Defeatism

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Anonymous  
Last month

Tigers recruiting well, with Caleb Davis, Garbellini and Maurice Barrow. More than makes up for the departure of Armour.

Still 1 import spot left, Cody is an out, but Elder should fit into his place..

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Anonymous  
Last month

Durnin to Mandurah confirmed??

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Anonymous  
Last month

And have heard Jarrad Jackson playing for the Slammers next season? Any truth to this?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Daniel Alexander has done his acl and cartliage playing in europe.

with isenbarger also being out with a longer term injury expect to see two new imports playing in the purple and white in 2019

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Anonymous  
Last month

if ambar land has gone to the wolves correct me if im wrong here .
they have recruited thus far.

ambar land
Georgia denehey
kayla steindel
izzi motti
miklaya prini.

is this correct.
what are the other clubs doing recruiting wise ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

taylor land back at rockingham

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Anonymous  
Last month

Taylor Land is coaching college now

will not return

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Anonymous  
Last month

A shame too see Izzi Motti leaving cockburn.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Daniel Alexander knee injury in Sweden https://www.bclulea.se/sasongen-ar-over-for-daniel-alexander/

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Anonymous  
Last month

The wolves haven't announced anything about Kayla Stendl. I think that's just speculation atm.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Rumour mill has Wolves also speaking to McPhee, on a big deal

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Anonomous  
Last month

Rumour has it that the Wolves have offered to lease the whole Linx squad for the SBL season. Nix's only real chance. Womens side have more money to spend than the mens as Etto penalised $5.50 for his 3 peat failures.

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Anonymous  
Last month

wolves women finally have the same budget as the men and they are using every red cent haha

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Anonymous  
Last month

Get Etto to coach the girls too, he can try get his 4th and 5th GF loss in a row, why wait 1 full year when you can go back to back in 24hrs.
Perfect

WOLFPACK x 2

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Anonymous  
Last month

Healthy, wealthy and wise that roster

A credit to the League and the game

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anonymous  
Last month

Hearing that Lee Roberts currently in negotiation with Wolves. Big $$$

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Perthworld  
Last month

aaaahhhhwoooo

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Anonymous  
Last month

aaaahhhhwoooo

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Anonymous  
Last month

Salary cap 60k including coaches and all finals. If coach is paid 15 ... that is within the 60.
If 7 finals games 3+3+gf then need to allow for this if players paid per game.
If you have 2-4 players on game payments that can be $10k plus just for finals payments.
players can be on 800 pg if that's the way a club wants to build a team and it makes finals expensive and fitting in cap a challenge.

That’s why some teams have paids coming in half way thru season. They stack the back end of season.
Seems there are many different ways to play the sbl salary cap game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Some clubz dont pay finalz, to maximize cap and talent advantage

Some playerz dont like thiz, and leave

lawz of the jungle

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Anonymous  
Last month

it would be highly unlikely you would ever see roberts play under ettridge given the racial slur debacle when roberts played for Kalamunda

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Misalienous  
Last month

Roberts def wont play for the walking ego

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Anonymous  
Last month

I wonder if the wolves very classy PR department will chase hussey as well ... lol

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Jem Wolfie  
Last month

Looking forward to the new (black) US imports :)

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Anonymous  
Last month

AHHHH Jem you're back, great to have you back and not in Dan Bilzerians wife party being a wonderful human being.

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Anonymous  
Last month

fake Jem Jem

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Anonymous  
Last month

I knew Jem when she wasnt famous

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Anonymous  
Last month

God bless her heart, she's such a sweetie and NOT superficial at all.

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Pug 74  
Last month

If Roberts plays SBL he will play for whoever offers the most cash, if that's Wolves then so be it!!

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koberulz  
Last month

I'm so glad we could get back to this garbage and off the discussion of basketball.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Or back to you correcting grammar or insulting people

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Anonymous  
Last month

Slammers confirmed bringing back Voelkel

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Anonymous  
Last month

Koberulz please go away.

Go play on the other forums.

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Anonymous  
Last month

great signing by the hawks in tevin Jackson and nikita martin . both very good additions. farnworth and kate Anthony not returning next season.morgan ballyntne rumoured to be playing for perry lakes as well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Interesting Lakeside has lost a lot of players from last year. Isenberger, Alexander injured. Michaels, Garbellini, Mackenzie, Vinci and Bell all moving elsewhere. Weird because they had a great season and Dave Daniels seems like a great coach.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Where did Michaels, Mackenzie, Vinci and Bell move?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Daniels Coach of the year...

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Anonymous  
Last month

Michaels to Eagles
Garbs and Bell to Willetton
Vinci to Cockburn

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Anonymous  
Last month

Quite certain Mckenzie is staying put

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Anonymous  
Last month

well one thing is certain, with the Buccs appointing a local coach the Giants are the last club yet to appoint a coach - geez not looking good for them again

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Anonymous  
Last month

Slammers in discussions with Jules Pesava, would be big for the club

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Anon  
Last month

Pesava is playing in Germany and not available until May, if at all.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pesava is doing well too, averaging 18 points and 7 rebounds so far for Rendsburg

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Anti-KR  
Last month

Giants to announce their new Head Coach and two new interstate signings in the next week

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Anonymous  
Last month

well now they crew of complaining kids is all back together.

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Anonnny anonnny  
Last month

You are smoking the cheebah, if you think Pesava is playing in a decent league

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Anonymous  
Last month

When you enter the data into the UBLC (Universal Basketball League Compiler) they rate the league higher then SEABL but obviously just under the NBL so give you some idea of the league strength.

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Anonymous  
Last month

fingers crossed for the giants and they do make some announcments this week.
it seems as thought the competition is widening , those few teams down the bottom and have been down the bottom for a while know , are losing ground on the top teams each year.
lets hope the giants interstate signings are better than the ones they have got in recent years.

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Anonnny anonnny  
Last month

The UBLC? is this some specialised website is it that doesn't show up in google?
The league he's in is currently 4th league in Germany. There is no way that league is just under NBL and above SEABL or any league in Australia for that matter.

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Know it all  
Last month

Michael Lay played Germany years back and he was in Pro B league putting up good numbers equivalent to what he was doing here. He was averaging 16.8 ppg in Pro B. along with 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

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Anonymous  
Last month

we are still waiting on the goldfields giants to confirm signings and coach anti-KR ?

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Lukosius  
Last month

Patience is a virtue

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Anon  
Last month

Why is #717999 so hung-up on wanting to know Giants player signings?

Only 2 clubs have announced players who aren't imports. Relax champ.

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Anonymous  
Last month

i think #717999 was just following up on a post by Anti-KR (obviously on the inside circle at Giants) re Coaching and interstate players.

Agreed re interstate players but they have certainly dragged their feet compared to the rest of the applicable clubs re Head coach role.

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Anonymous  
Last month

who is coaching slammers men?

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Anonymous  
Last month

John Triscari https://www.facebook.com/SouthWestSlammers/photos/a.529668693746852/1914333901946984/?type=3&theater

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Anonymous  
Last month

Giants name Wayne Creek as coach

http://www.goldfieldsgiants.com/2018/11/27/creekcoach/

Interesting choice. Understand what the president says by seeking some stability in the role after so many changes over the past few years, but Creek comes in with a mixed reputation. Will be very interesting to see what/if any recruits he can pull.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wasn't creek the coach like 4 years ago ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

wayne creek ! unbelievable decision by the giants. I Know that there was a very highly respected and "WINNING COACH " available from the eastern states willing to come .
creek has no experience in what is shaping up as another strong competition , he will be way out of his league.
easy prediction this one = " TRAIN WRECK "

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Anonymous  
Last month

Anonymous
A few minutes ago
wayne creek ! unbelievable decision by the giants. I Know that there was a very highly respected and "WINNING COACH " available from the eastern states willing to come .
creek has no experience in what is shaping up as another strong competition , he will be way out of his league.
easy prediction this one = " TRAIN WRECK "

WINNING COACH you talk about also comes with a rediculous price tag. If you think the club can afford to spend $40+k on a cocah from the east then your dumber then you look.

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Anonymous  
Last month

40k - maybe a little to much I guess. old saying you" gotta spend money to make money" however and don't be surprised if some other coaches in the S.B.l are getting close to that number.

old saying " you get what you pay for "

old saying " gotta risk it to get the biscuit "

same result for the giants LAST-

the 4ok coach would have bought excellent players and imports and great coaching ability , thus sparked the town and basketball community once again. 8800-1000 people back therefore $$$$

however it will be same old , same old , time to take the blindfolds off and get out of your bubble and into the real world.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hmm, someone really has a beef with the Giants.

Going back to the start of this thread, there seems to be the same person posting about the Giants coaching/playing situation, and constantly being either critical or a prophet of doom.

Someone bitter it seems. A former coach maybe?

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Anonymous  
Last month

a former coach maybe ? ha -ha . well that narrows it down doesn't it.
how many coaches have they had in the last 10 years.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Risk it to get the biscuit
clearly someone with ZERO business nouse.
Ahh thats right Kalgoorlie is full of money and they can afford a 40k coach, along with everything else they have to pay for, 2 imports, aussie recruits, accommodation, vehicles not just for them but imports as well. Oh thats right another tosser with no idea.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What no Lou Causer??

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McAngus  
Last month

I think you might be right there about a former disgruntled someone.

Let's look at the logic of it all, if the Giants were flying and had the cattle already, a top line coach would be a priority. The fact they have to heavily recruit players means they currently can't spend that type of money on a top line coach.

If the reported 40k is true, half of that probably equates to a couple of top level Aussie recruits, which is probably the sizable chunk of their local playing budget. It's easier for metro teams to splash money at recruits as generally they don't have to relocate and accommodate them.

I'm sure no coach, no matter how good they are, would be able to win regularly with the cattle the Giants have right now.
Could they afford him as well as the alleged players he would bring? Highly unlikely.

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Anonymous  
Last month

risk it to get the biscuit.

you are saying that I have no business nouse.

perhaps you may be a part of the reason that the $$$ has dried up.
no business nouse and no- vision .

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Anonymous  
Last month

I have nothing to do with the current running of the club, just a fan from afar.
Seems easy to spend money when you dont have a clue of what the clubs budget is. But its easy to make that decision when your not responsible for the cash flow.
Enjoy your bitterness champ. Good luck with it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'd take Creek over Triscari by a long long long way!

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Anonymous  
Last month

and Lackovic and Ettridge for that matter

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Anon  
Last month

While we are on the subject, let's rank the coaches. Interestingly there will only be one rookie coach in 2019 - Petrik - though his WSBL and WNBL experience almost counters the argument that he's a rookie.

Of the other 13 coaches, we will see 8 coaches staying put, and 5 coaches making comebacks in a head coaching capacity (Forde, Joseph, Creek. Utley. Triscari).

1. Parsons
Seems to win wherever he goes.

2. Ettridge
Despite what some may think of him, takes teams to grand finals.

3. Ellis
Underachieving

4. Black
Underachieving ver2

5. Lackovic
Underachieving ver3

6. Nener
Overachieving

7. Petrik
Has a championship-level team at his disposal so has everything to lose.

8. Utley
Veteran coach should shake things up at the Suns.

9. Creek
Has nothing to lose - the only way is up for the Giants.

10. Daniels
Will have a very young team in 2019 which will be challenging.

11. Forde
Needs Wildcats players if he wants to make playoffs. And will probably get them.

12. Trahair
Never really rated him as a coach.

13. Joseph
Been out a while and could be handed a rebuilding team.

14. Triscari
Looks like a desperation appointment.

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Barry Ballbag  
Last month

Why would you rank an overachieving coach behind three underachieving coaches? Just asking, not criticizing.

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Anon  
Last month

Because they are still better coaches, just underachieving.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heard the slammers have signed their 2nd import (men's). Any ideas on who it is or if they have played in the league before?

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Anon  
Last month

Kevin Davis

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Anonymous  
Last month

No????? That's a joke right?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Brian and KD would be sweet though

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SBLFan  
Last month

New thread;

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/44375-wa-sbl-nov-dec/?a=97

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SBLFan  
Last month

And a thread for the latest happenings in the WSBL;

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/44374-wsbl-2019/

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Anonymous  
Last month

Daniels will not have a young team at Lakeside

signed Kyle Armour who is a veteran point guard
allegedly signed Mike Vigor who is a veteran big man
if they convince the ageless Jarrad prue to go again then thats another vet
add 2 quality imports which lakeside always seem to be able to get they arent looking so young


Creek is an experienced coach and is a good signing by the club. Bringing in rock n roll rubery from gero was an epic failure
they may as well go with someone local who can actually develop some local talent and stabilise the program

will be interesting to see if the rumors are true coming out of redbacks land that hussey looking elsewhere, obviously barrow signing at tigers and if vigor gone too what Lako will have to work with

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Anonymous  
Last month

^^^ Wrong thread idiot ^^^

www.hoops.com.au/forum/44375-wa-sbl-nov-dec

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