LC
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2018 FIBA Under-18 Asian Cup for women

The 2018 FIBA Under-18 Asian Cup for women tips off in Bengaluru, India today. Top 4 teams qualify for the 2019 FIBA Under-19 World Cup.

Australia's Gems take on Indonesia at 4:30pm AEST.
New Zealand vs Japan at 11:15pm AEST

You can watch every Gems and Tall Ferns game throughout the tournament live via The Pick and Roll Facebook Page.

Preview: Gems eyeing World Cup qualification in FIBA U18 Asian Championship debut

Official Tournament Website

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Anonymous  
Last year

Good read LC, looking forward to seeing this group in action this afternoon

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bourne not listed anymore. Late injury?

Very Important player.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Scanlon on crutches. done for tournament too?

Down to 10 players it looks like.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No big deal since it's the LOLAsia zone.

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Anonymous  
Last year

You do know we only beat Japan by 1 point in u16s...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Top four qualify though.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Would like to win all the 4 Asian tournaments in juniors.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Butler... my goodness. Why is she getting another go?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Down against Korea at the half.
Really look lazy and disinterested out there.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Defence is terrible

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brassard frothin, she should take over asap.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Simons and Motuga way too slow footed for this level.
This is asia. How many times do we have to go over this stuff.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Deserved to lose. Can't turn up in the last 2 minutes.
Lilkely playing nz to qualify.

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LC  
Last year

Wow...wow...what a terrible result.

Just finished watching on delay. That was hard to watch.

Fourth quarter spree not enough as Gems suffer surprise loss to Korea

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Anonymous  
Last year

One of the worst junior performances I've seen. This was to qualify for a WC and it looked asthough they thought it would be a walk in the park. For the first 3/4s most of them looked like they didn't want to be there.
A loss to NZ would unimaginable.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Just got beaten by a team of guards. Who would have thought speed would be our weakness? Just don't learn. Unfortunately we have only our high performance system to blame. If you haven’t made COE or have a name, don’t bother. So many highly talented athletes are missing out because they aren’t in the "in group". High performance system just got a fail. Too many over rated players getting a gig. Boys not much better.
Hope these girls can get back into it, but can’t be looking forward to playing
Japan if it works out that way.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Really disappointing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Wnbl champ coach sitting as an assistant is ludicrous.
Seebohm should just take the reigns for both u17 and u19s.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No accountability within HP, though. Coaching, selection, development, it doesn't matter. Poor performance is only a reason to get rid of someone if you wanted them gone anyway. Otherwise, find an excuse and re-appoint or re-select them for the next event.

Would be nice if it's a one-off bad result and they turn it around for NZ and come back with some motivation knowing they've probably assigned themselves a tougher pool at Worlds.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Can't not play poor performing over rated COE girls. That would be embarrassing wouldn’t it. Can’t allow that to happen. That would mean that we are picking the wrong girls in our high performance program. Which cannot, must not be the case.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Scanlon was one of our best players at the u17 WC and she only just entered the coe.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Scanlon was very good at the WC. Took way too long to get the court time she deserved. Maybe if she played for Vic Country she would've got a bit more of a go earlier in the tournament. The selection process that is unable to pick who is and who isn’t worthy, is just flawed.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Would have had potter even though she's another year younger.
Wouldve taken her over the other sfs or even as an undersized pf in this tournament.

Credit to Nnopu. Always puts in 100 percent.
Shelley, goodchild and Palmer are all very good defenders but were sub par today.
I'm not sure you could guarantee spots to anyone if we make the WC beyond those I listed and Anstey.

I'd take

Heal
Scanlon
Shelley
Goodchild
Palmer
Nnopu
Potter
Bourne
Anstey
2 bigs...
Another good defender at guard or wing. a few around but won't name names.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Dee Butler must be accountable for this. She has a poor record as an international coach and hopefully this will be her very last campaign. So many better coaches out there. She obviously did not prepare the team for Plan B (Korea Zone) and their aggression. I bet their scouting of the Korea team was poor also. I'd love to get a hold of that scouting report.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I very much doubt they will replace her if we make the WC.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Left Horvat out, still can't believe that. Was captain in the tournament before and one of the top scorers.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yet another poor performance adding to Dee Butler's resume.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Am not sure you can put this all on the coaches. 2 major injuries in Bourne and scanlon, and how much time did they actually have with the group to prepare? Not much I'm guessing?

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Anonymous  
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Bourne was injured before and could have been replaced.
Scanlon supposably rolled her ankle just before the game started.
Those 2 injuries certainly didn't help but it wasn't the reason we lost.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Korea are trying to replicate Japan it seems in the run and gun style with a lot of outside shooting. Credit to them... we just had no desire in this game.

Was a clear difference in effort in qtrs 1, 2 and 3 compared to the last. That is a coaching problem.

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Bear  
Last year

Anon^^^ I expect Horvat is still committed to UCLA and not available this close to the NCAA season start.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Talking about last u19s with Horvat...
Horvat was born in 98. These current girls are born in 2000 and 2001.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Correct, I think the point was made to highlight Butler's inability to select a team. Her people management and coaching abilities we all know about...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Heal also made herself unavailable due to WNBL commitments.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Be interesting to see if cochrane can make it back into the squad.

Heal, Scanlon and Bourne will make this team a lot stronger.
Not sold on Simon or Motuga. Hannan who has a lot of great attributes might not be ready. Few other options in the post.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hawea hasn't showed much either.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Team could of looked something like:

Heal
Shelley
McDowell-White
Goodchild
Simmons
Palmer
Nnopu
Potter
Bourne
Fowler
Anstey

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Anonymous  
Last year

Simmons is 99.

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Anonymous  
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G
Heal
Scanlon
Shelley
Goodchild
Palmer

F
Nnopu
Potter
Fowler
Bourne

P
Anstey
Hannan
Cochrane

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Anonymous  
Last year

You'd think if the US women's coach was trying to recruit Cochrane to her college program she may just be good enough.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Don't think South Carolina is the right option for her.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Too funny, ad you Kow what about South Carolina?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sitting on the end of the bench for most of you're college career doesn't sound great to me behind a very highly touted post player to come in the same recruiting class.

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Anonymous  
Last year

When is their next game?

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Anonymous  
Last year

9.00 tonight

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Anonymous  
Last year

Has it all been this bad?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Butler got no idea. Terrible subs..

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Anonymous  
Last year

anon great question.

I am horrified.

#4 Shelley is completely clueless defensively.
#9 Emma-Nnopu cant pass or catch but provides some energy.
#10 Goodchild is almost as bad as #4.

#15 Anstey and #11 Simons are having a good crack

No structure offensively.

Small miracle if they beat NZ and then some people need to take good look at themselves.

Most state under 18 teams would beat this Gems team.





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Anonymous  
Last year

Alot of players playing out of there natural position.

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Anonymous  
Last year

824 you're a moron.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anstey really struggles finishing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

824?

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Anonymous  
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Sorry 874, can't believe anyone watching this game would bag Shelley for starters

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Anonymous  
Last year

Shelley is an alete defender, goodchild is very good too.
I'd say 874 has a pg for a daughter.

Shelley will like start at sg though with heal running the point.

The 3 guard lineup with Shelley, goodchild and Palmer is much better.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I prefer Shelley as PG over Heal, little more team first

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LC  
Last year

One hand on a ticket to the World Cup now...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lol you spoke too soon.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Japan will be tough, have beeezed through so far. Our size might help us or hinder us.

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Anonymous  
Last year

#shelley 7 turnovers, efficiency rating of 4, lowest of the active players on the Australia team.

defensive breakdowns from her (and others) again and again

1 game sample, but she was very poor tonight.

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Anon  
Last year

874 you are Actually a moron

2018 Big V SCW Defensive Player of the Year

Nicole Zammit - Hume City
Erin Bollmann – Keilor
Rachael Quirk – Knox
Bridget Deery – McKinnon
Jaz Shelley – Southern Peninsula
Chelsea Burns – Sunbury

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Anonymous  
Last year

011. You're right but I wouldn't use big v as an example.

Will be another close game tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Haven't heard from those people that it would be an easy win for the Aussies this tournament.

Teams like Japan, china, Korea and nz are not easy beats like they once were.
India will also enter that group in the not too distant future.

Qualification to worlds will not be a guarantee anymore.

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LC  
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Australia has qualified for the 2019 FIBA Under-19 World Cup after defeating New Zealand 82-66 to advance to the semifinals of the FIBA Under-18 Asian Championships in Bengaluru, India.

Rebounding from the disappointment of losing to Korea by a solitary point in their last start, the Gems took control from the outset, leading from start to finish to book a date with Japan, but more importantly secure a berth at the Under-19 World Cup in Thailand next year.

Gems qualify for FIBA U19 World Cup at the expense of New Zealand

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Anonymous  
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Sweet baby Jesus. Open lanes galore.

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Anonymous  
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im ok with a loss if results in a change of coach.

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Anonymous  
Last year

1 person rebounding lol, this is pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Finally a zone

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Anonymous  
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Why did it take a qtr and a half to play zone?

Up by 1 at the half.

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Anonymous  
Last year

They miss heal a bit from the under 17s. Someone with a steady head who makes the right decision on offence.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Absolutely.
Scanlon as the backup to heal.
Shelley and goodchild should be playing sg.

Love nnopu. So much effort, never gives up.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Changed zone again, not sure why.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Ouch. Blown away in a hurry.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Japan doing what they normally do, shoot the ball well. And we saggin 1m off..

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Anonymous  
Last year

If butler gets to keep going next year, you know that ba has no balls.

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Anonymous  
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Having slow footed players like Simons, Motuga, Clarke, Hannan etc really hurst us in Asia.

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LC  
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Although they qualified for the 2019 Under 19 World Cup by defeating New Zealand in a sudden death playoff the previous evening, there will be no Asian Championship gold medal for the Gems in 2018 after going down 90-77 to Japan in the semifinal.

Gems' Asian title hopes crushed in semi-final loss to Japan

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Anonymous  
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Couldn't get all 4 asia junior titles.

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Anonymous  
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Who would people choose if they had a new coach?

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.  
Last year

Japan basketball on the up for a few years now.

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Anonymous  
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Will only get better and better as they find bigger post players.
Only had 2 players at 6'1 this tournament and they were very good.

We were outrebounded, outhustled, outplayed, outcoached.

Next time we need to play Asia differently. You cannot bring players who can't play this uptempo style.

Half the team could not keep them in front. So many defensive breakdowns which resulted in open lanes.

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LC  
Last year

Live now...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Running the same stuff.

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Anonymous  
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Hannan-Texas
Goodchild-Duke
Shelley-Oregon
Clarke-Colorado
Simons-St Mary's
Motuga-Washington State
Bourne-Nebraska
Nnopu-?
Hawea-?
Palmer-?
Anstey-?
Scanlon-?

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Anonymous  
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IMO none of them look fit for Div1, seriously!

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Luuuc  
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Harsh

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Anonymous  
Last year

The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.
Texas is a big school and they already have several quality posts and more,coming in.
2019 class was very short on post options for worldwide.

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Anonymous  
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Heal
Shelley
Goodchild
Nnopu
Bourne

Scanlon
Palmer
(Another guard)
Potter
Anstey

Hawea/Clarke/Simons/Motuga//Fowler/Other
Cochrane/Hannan/Other

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bronze. Well done. Need to improve alot before next year.

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Anonymous  
Last year

China beat Japan.

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Anonymous  
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'The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.'

Motuga will struggle in PAC 12 with her lack of mobilty

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Anonymous  
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'The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.'

Motuga will struggle in PAC 12 with her lack of mobilty

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lots of Aussies to follow in PAC 12 this year and next few years.
Most teams will have at least one.

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Anonymous  
Last year

PAC 12
Washington state - Motuga
Oregon - Yaeger, Shelley(2019)
Oregon State - Simmons
Stanford - Smith
California - Anastasieska
Ucla - Horvat
Arizona - Manumaleuga(2019)
Washington - Rees
Colorado - Clarke
USC - Milisic


Only Utah and Arizona state without one.

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Anonymous  
Last year

U15 Oceania team up next in early December for qualification into next years u16 Asia.
Hopefully York looks at this tournament and brings in players with speed over traditional 5s and slow 4s next year.

Oceania u15 squad.
Guards are Deeble, Fakalata, Crawford, Swain, Bowyer, Robinson
Forwards are Price, Dunn, Dunlop, Goodchild, Prior
Centre is Evans

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