Good read LC, looking forward to seeing this group in action this afternoon

Bourne not listed anymore. Late injury?

Very Important player.

Scanlon on crutches. done for tournament too?

Down to 10 players it looks like.

No big deal since it's the LOLAsia zone.

You do know we only beat Japan by 1 point in u16s...

Top four qualify though.

Would like to win all the 4 Asian tournaments in juniors.

Butler... my goodness. Why is she getting another go?

Down against Korea at the half.
Really look lazy and disinterested out there.

Defence is terrible

Brassard frothin, she should take over asap.

Simons and Motuga way too slow footed for this level.
This is asia. How many times do we have to go over this stuff.

Deserved to lose. Can't turn up in the last 2 minutes.
Lilkely playing nz to qualify.

One of the worst junior performances I've seen. This was to qualify for a WC and it looked asthough they thought it would be a walk in the park. For the first 3/4s most of them looked like they didn't want to be there.
A loss to NZ would unimaginable.

Just got beaten by a team of guards. Who would have thought speed would be our weakness? Just don't learn. Unfortunately we have only our high performance system to blame. If you haven’t made COE or have a name, don’t bother. So many highly talented athletes are missing out because they aren’t in the "in group". High performance system just got a fail. Too many over rated players getting a gig. Boys not much better.
Hope these girls can get back into it, but can’t be looking forward to playing
Japan if it works out that way.

Really disappointing.

Wnbl champ coach sitting as an assistant is ludicrous.
Seebohm should just take the reigns for both u17 and u19s.

No accountability within HP, though. Coaching, selection, development, it doesn't matter. Poor performance is only a reason to get rid of someone if you wanted them gone anyway. Otherwise, find an excuse and re-appoint or re-select them for the next event.

Would be nice if it's a one-off bad result and they turn it around for NZ and come back with some motivation knowing they've probably assigned themselves a tougher pool at Worlds.

Can't not play poor performing over rated COE girls. That would be embarrassing wouldn’t it. Can’t allow that to happen. That would mean that we are picking the wrong girls in our high performance program. Which cannot, must not be the case.

Scanlon was one of our best players at the u17 WC and she only just entered the coe.

Scanlon was very good at the WC. Took way too long to get the court time she deserved. Maybe if she played for Vic Country she would've got a bit more of a go earlier in the tournament. The selection process that is unable to pick who is and who isn’t worthy, is just flawed.

Would have had potter even though she's another year younger.
Wouldve taken her over the other sfs or even as an undersized pf in this tournament.

Credit to Nnopu. Always puts in 100 percent.
Shelley, goodchild and Palmer are all very good defenders but were sub par today.
I'm not sure you could guarantee spots to anyone if we make the WC beyond those I listed and Anstey.

I'd take

Heal
Scanlon
Shelley
Goodchild
Palmer
Nnopu
Potter
Bourne
Anstey
2 bigs...
Another good defender at guard or wing. a few around but won't name names.

Dee Butler must be accountable for this. She has a poor record as an international coach and hopefully this will be her very last campaign. So many better coaches out there. She obviously did not prepare the team for Plan B (Korea Zone) and their aggression. I bet their scouting of the Korea team was poor also. I'd love to get a hold of that scouting report.

I very much doubt they will replace her if we make the WC.

Left Horvat out, still can't believe that. Was captain in the tournament before and one of the top scorers.

Yet another poor performance adding to Dee Butler's resume.

Am not sure you can put this all on the coaches. 2 major injuries in Bourne and scanlon, and how much time did they actually have with the group to prepare? Not much I'm guessing?

Bourne was injured before and could have been replaced.
Scanlon supposably rolled her ankle just before the game started.
Those 2 injuries certainly didn't help but it wasn't the reason we lost.

Korea are trying to replicate Japan it seems in the run and gun style with a lot of outside shooting. Credit to them... we just had no desire in this game.

Was a clear difference in effort in qtrs 1, 2 and 3 compared to the last. That is a coaching problem.

Talking about last u19s with Horvat...
Horvat was born in 98. These current girls are born in 2000 and 2001.

Correct, I think the point was made to highlight Butler's inability to select a team. Her people management and coaching abilities we all know about...

Heal also made herself unavailable due to WNBL commitments.

Be interesting to see if cochrane can make it back into the squad.

Heal, Scanlon and Bourne will make this team a lot stronger.
Not sold on Simon or Motuga. Hannan who has a lot of great attributes might not be ready. Few other options in the post.

Hawea hasn't showed much either.

Team could of looked something like:

Heal
Shelley
McDowell-White
Goodchild
Simmons
Palmer
Nnopu
Potter
Bourne
Fowler
Anstey

Simmons is 99.

G
Heal
Scanlon
Shelley
Goodchild
Palmer

F
Nnopu
Potter
Fowler
Bourne

P
Anstey
Hannan
Cochrane

You'd think if the US women's coach was trying to recruit Cochrane to her college program she may just be good enough.

Don't think South Carolina is the right option for her.

Too funny, ad you Kow what about South Carolina?

Sitting on the end of the bench for most of you're college career doesn't sound great to me behind a very highly touted post player to come in the same recruiting class.

When is their next game?

9.00 tonight

Has it all been this bad?

Butler got no idea. Terrible subs..

anon great question.

I am horrified.

#4 Shelley is completely clueless defensively.
#9 Emma-Nnopu cant pass or catch but provides some energy.
#10 Goodchild is almost as bad as #4.

#15 Anstey and #11 Simons are having a good crack

No structure offensively.

Small miracle if they beat NZ and then some people need to take good look at themselves.

Most state under 18 teams would beat this Gems team.

Alot of players playing out of there natural position.

824 you're a moron.

Anstey really struggles finishing.

824?

Sorry 874, can't believe anyone watching this game would bag Shelley for starters

Shelley is an alete defender, goodchild is very good too.
I'd say 874 has a pg for a daughter.

Shelley will like start at sg though with heal running the point.

The 3 guard lineup with Shelley, goodchild and Palmer is much better.

I prefer Shelley as PG over Heal, little more team first

Lol you spoke too soon.

Japan will be tough, have beeezed through so far. Our size might help us or hinder us.

#shelley 7 turnovers, efficiency rating of 4, lowest of the active players on the Australia team.

defensive breakdowns from her (and others) again and again

1 game sample, but she was very poor tonight.

011. You're right but I wouldn't use big v as an example.

Will be another close game tonight.

Haven't heard from those people that it would be an easy win for the Aussies this tournament.

Teams like Japan, china, Korea and nz are not easy beats like they once were.
India will also enter that group in the not too distant future.

Qualification to worlds will not be a guarantee anymore.

Sweet baby Jesus. Open lanes galore.

im ok with a loss if results in a change of coach.

1 person rebounding lol, this is pathetic.

Finally a zone

Why did it take a qtr and a half to play zone?

Up by 1 at the half.

They miss heal a bit from the under 17s. Someone with a steady head who makes the right decision on offence.

Absolutely.
Scanlon as the backup to heal.
Shelley and goodchild should be playing sg.

Love nnopu. So much effort, never gives up.

Changed zone again, not sure why.

Japan doing what they normally do, shoot the ball well. And we saggin 1m off..

If butler gets to keep going next year, you know that ba has no balls.

Having slow footed players like Simons, Motuga, Clarke, Hannan etc really hurst us in Asia.

Couldn't get all 4 asia junior titles.

Who would people choose if they had a new coach?

Will only get better and better as they find bigger post players.
Only had 2 players at 6'1 this tournament and they were very good.

We were outrebounded, outhustled, outplayed, outcoached.

Next time we need to play Asia differently. You cannot bring players who can't play this uptempo style.

Half the team could not keep them in front. So many defensive breakdowns which resulted in open lanes.

Running the same stuff.

Hannan-Texas
Goodchild-Duke
Shelley-Oregon
Clarke-Colorado
Simons-St Mary's
Motuga-Washington State
Bourne-Nebraska
Nnopu-?
Hawea-?
Palmer-?
Anstey-?
Scanlon-?

IMO none of them look fit for Div1, seriously!

The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.
Texas is a big school and they already have several quality posts and more,coming in.
2019 class was very short on post options for worldwide.

Heal
Shelley
Goodchild
Nnopu
Bourne

Scanlon
Palmer
(Another guard)
Potter
Anstey

Hawea/Clarke/Simons/Motuga//Fowler/Other
Cochrane/Hannan/Other

Bronze. Well done. Need to improve alot before next year.

China beat Japan.

'The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.'

Motuga will struggle in PAC 12 with her lack of mobilty

'The college they are going to fits them except for maybe Hannan.'

Motuga will struggle in PAC 12 with her lack of mobilty

Lots of Aussies to follow in PAC 12 this year and next few years.
Most teams will have at least one.

PAC 12
Washington state - Motuga
Oregon - Yaeger, Shelley(2019)
Oregon State - Simmons
Stanford - Smith
California - Anastasieska
Ucla - Horvat
Arizona - Manumaleuga(2019)
Washington - Rees
Colorado - Clarke
USC - Milisic


Only Utah and Arizona state without one.

U15 Oceania team up next in early December for qualification into next years u16 Asia.
Hopefully York looks at this tournament and brings in players with speed over traditional 5s and slow 4s next year.

Oceania u15 squad.
Guards are Deeble, Fakalata, Crawford, Swain, Bowyer, Robinson
Forwards are Price, Dunn, Dunlop, Goodchild, Prior
Centre is Evans