Anon
Last month

Big V Structure

Just got told the new structure of SC, D1, D2 etc, actually looks good, SCM have only 9 teams but is all quality which is great also well done to Keilor as their programme is kicking butt!

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Anonymous  
Last month

And who is in SCM?

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A.H  
Last month

On the mens side, 9 in SC then 13 in both D1 and D2 seems off.
RMIT an interesting addition at D2, does anyone know anything about them?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Clearly you don't know

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A.H  
Last month

Hence the question.. go to another thread with that BS

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Anon  
Last month

Blackburn, Corio Bay, Hawthorn, Casey, Keilor, Hume City, Werribee, McKinnon & Chelsea, good strong teams.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why only 9 teams in SCM?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Strong teams!! Smh

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wasn't aimed at you A.H

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Anonymous  
Last month

Comps with 9 & 13 teams allow 24 games across 18 rounds.

9 team comp play each other 3 times ?
13 team comp play each other 2 times ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Looooooooong seasons

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Phurph world  
Last month

Lol is SCM going to be weaker than Div1?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Wonder why 2 more Div 1 teams didn't go up to SCM to make both divisions 11 teams, play home and away for 20 games?

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Phurph world  
Last month

It would almost be ideal for Casey and McKinnon to join the elite league, which leaves a pretty even rest of the bunch to combine the remaining SCM teams with Div 1.

Obviously there are other reasons Casey and McKinnon couldn't push up

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Anonymous  
Last month

How in the world did Latrobe men not get relegated from d1m??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Where has this been announced?

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Anonymous  
Last month

http://bigv.com.au/2019-big-v-competition-structure-released/?fbclid=IwAR2iG6awPyoZw4v9nbDfIdaxJnpfX0ShlMSUzqM6sJgg6oYBXa5m_bPl4WE

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Clubs informed today

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Anonymous  
Last month

McKinnon and Casey would be laughing at this comp now for the men.

Sunbury would be sleep walking through their comp.

Sad days ahead for big v comp

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Anonymous  
Last month

W0W
Latrobe city men stayn in Div 1

How?

Their best player has left and their most experienced player retired.

Are they bringing up players from the worst Youth team ever in BigV

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bahahahaha 9 team state championship
I just wet my pants

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who have Sunbury picked up outside of Sanders ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Person would be referring to Sunbury women i assume. 3x grand final winners in last 3 seasons.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Of course, my bad !

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Anonymous  
Last month

We can all judge but truth is Clubs put in applications. If your Club is not CM (and noticed it changed to CM not SCM ) don't hate on Big V but go ask your Clubs. Many reason why clubs are happy with lower divisions.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Craigieburn and Southern Pen both applies to go up to D1mem but we're told promotion relegation rules apply

Bulleen were trying to go to the new league but were knocked back. Then asked to go SCM and were knocked back.

So yeah clearly the clubs fault SCM looks like a woeful structure. Not

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Anonymous  
Last month

Every year clubs ask to go up and get knocked back

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Anonymous  
Last month

How about winning something before getting promoted.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Three d1 men's teams also got asked by the league to go up and rejected. All three with very late notice.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Agree winning and being promoted should be the way it's done

But not a good look for Big V with a top tier being light on

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Anonymous  
Last month

Early grand final winner predictions?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Early favourites?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Or
If they promoted the D2 sides that asked to go up then they could have conferences in D1 men

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Anonymous  
Last month

SCM McKinnon
D1 Shep
D2 Melton

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Anonymous  
Last month

I know of one D1 Mens team that was phoned last week and asked to go up and basically had to give an answer over the phone.....

This after sitting around for 2 months not knowing what the hell was going on with any of the league structure !!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are SMC now just CM. Does this allow for the word State to be used in the name of new Elite League.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I feel for the Big V office having to throw together a comp structure after the delays in not knowing what was happening with teams and the premier league

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Anonymous  
Last month

How many games will CM play??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thinking 24

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Anonymous  
Last month

Head to head easy to figure out with ladder. Best if 3 all season.

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Anon1  
Last month

CM- McKinnon, D1M - Shepparton, D2M - Had a source tell me they're sure Camberwell will run the table in D2M after picking up a guy who no one knows (and of course the source won’t tell me who this random is) but something to think about.

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Anonymous  
Last month

CM- Casey
D1M - Warnambool
D2M - Craigieburn

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Anonymous  
Last month

I hear Shep waiting until fixtures are done to to pull the "oh now we need to imports of we pulling out" card.

Not a bad little advantage they have getting double the imports of everyone else.

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Anonymous  
Last month

^ 2 imports

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Anonymous  
Last month

I agree Craigieburn in D2M

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fubr  
Last month

With the change to SEABL is it now time to make it a club championship ie no imports??

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Anonymous  
Last month

How would that be entertaining? Might as well just be domestic without any imports.

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Reality  
Last month

If without any imports in the lower divisions its no better than domestic it begs the question as to the level of play and if it really should be played at all

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Anon  
Last month

SCM - either McKinnon or Casey, D1M - either Shepparton or Westernport, D2M - either Craigieburn or Sth Penn. Dark horses for all - SCM - Chelsea, D1M - Melb Uni, D2M - Altona

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Anonymous  
Last month

Shepp applied for and were granted 2 imports last year in (November 2017), hardly any fixtures done by then.....

Same with Latrobe, and same as previous 3-4 seasons !!

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Anonymous  
Last month

CW- Sunbury
D1W- toss up
D2W - toss up

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Anonymous  
Last month

Standefere from Chelsea and Stith from McKinnon will dominate CM this year

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(none)  
Last month

CM - McKinnon
D1M - Western Port (should be in CM)
D2M - Sth Penn (the craigieburn picks are laughable, 2 years of finishing on top and choking when the going gets tough.)

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Love a early statement of who is going to win, need to look back on this come July/Aug 2019

All I see as Div 1 Men has a tone of travelling for metro clubs, Latrobe, Shep, the bool.

Div 2 Women looks terrible the quality seen last year made it feel like a league with haves and have nots

SCM with 9 teams should be tight but could see the top 4 breaking away
Div 1 men will be more fun to watch than SCM

NOW the league needs to get those fixtures done earlier help teams out, avoid running that pre-season tournament and instead do something a bit different maybe smaller events in the EAST, WEST NORTH regions

And bring back more articles, news stories, interviews and opinion pieces to ramp up interest and interaction with fans

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heard on the grape vine that Shep have 2 cracking imports locked in. I thought they were going to be told that they could only have 1?

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Anonymous  
Last month

The fact that big v can't uphold their own rules is the kind of stuff why the SEABL clubs didn’t want to be administered by them.
The rule was supposed to be enforced re country teams one import last year but of course they folded. Shep came up to d1 from d1 with a good core of local guys. If they can’t field a team of locals they should perhaps look at why those good locals who would still be in their 20’s no longer want to play, and address that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can corroborate the claims above of Shepp having two imports lined up... as well as Camberwell having a random that is supposedly a stud.

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Anon  
Last month

D1Men will be worth watching as Westernport will be super tough, Shepparton will give it a crack if they have 2 better imports and Matty Bartlett, Warrnambool always thereabouts, Melbourne Uni will surprise a few, Bulleen will be out to make a statement, Sunbury with Ish back is going to be tough, the rest will make up numbers.

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X  
Last month

Why are Shep allowed 2 imports. If they need 2 imports they should play Division 2 like Mildura chose to do when they were told they can only have 1 import.

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(none)  
Last month

Shepp are going to need 2 imports, they won't have any players left - some key rotation guys are leaving due to the coaches re-appointment!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Then they should play Division 2 next year.

Helps the Big V and all the clubs in D1 and D2 men, D1M is a manageable 12 team comp and then they would make 14 in D2M that then will be able to be 2 conferences of 7

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(none)  
Last month

Love that idea!!!!

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Reality  
Last month

Country used to get a 2 imports due to lack of locals playing on in the mid/late 20's so many of the country clubs left the comp.

Back in the day the country associations had massive support and good talent but it fell away in the early 2000's but it appears a few are working hard to reverse the trend.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Will Latrobe get two imports? They had two for half of season and didn't seem to make much difference. After they both were let go they became the 'bye’ team in the comp. will they get more locals back on board?

I don’t think two imports is the answer to sustainability, it’s more of a band aid solution.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Import policy should be
if you need 2, play division 2

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wouldn't that make D2 a better league than D1? Honest question

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think in that situation then everyone ones. D2 standard improves and becomes conferences. D1 becomes reasonable in relation to travel

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is Camberwell getting? Is it a local?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Kimble

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Anonymous  
Last month

From what I have heard it's a guard so that would rule out Kimble... still have no idea though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Any early import announcements from CM? D1M? D2M?

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Anonymous  
Last month

anyone know Casey's 2nd import besides Lemons?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Has Casey signed Lemons back?

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(none)  
Last month

Camberwell has a stud but no one can say anything else?
D2 news - Craigieburn have their import Smith back for 2 years, Sth Penn went with a perimeter import. Wallan are close to a big signing + an import. Altona will be another step closer and mornington back for some reason.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Wallan already have their import lined up, Craigieburn will be good again but can't play finals for some reason, and why would Altona be any good?

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Greggo  
Last month

If Kimble is their 'stud' they're going to be very disappointed.

Bloke is worse than the locals they had last year

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Anonymous  
Last month

Agreed Kimble is awful but like someone else said, it's supposedly a guard Camberwell has gotten. Could be a local?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Leigh Saffin to Wallan is the word.

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Reality  
Last month

Who the Fook is that guy^

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(none)  
Last month

Will be huge for Wallan if that is true and comes with an import.

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Reality  
Last month

Will get it Leigh your excited but no one knows who you are!

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Haha ^^

Funny, Saffin is decent for Div 2, played a few games last year, and Townsend-Gant is their import next year.

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Reality  
Last month

sorry can;t say poor to avg Div 2 Big V players get onto the radar of just about anyone other than there mums.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol..... Townsend-Grant is poorly skilled and has a terrible attitude.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is at Mornington? Do they have a coach?

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anonymous  
Last month

What players from Waverley, Knox, Eltham, Ringwood and Mt Gambier will we see be available at CM?
I would think these teams may at least upgrade their imports (Mt Gambier players will probably be looking for other gigs).

Both Ringwood and Eltham had quite mature rotations, will they stay with these?

Knox imports, Kaba & McDonald, probably will be looking elsewhere.

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Anonymous  
Last month

McDonald is at Knox again. 25 years young, athletic, son of Coach, not classed as import, and former Melb united development player.

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anonymous  
Last month

So Knox only had the one import last year?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Waverely has been rumored to have signed two former D1M imports. Heard Travis from westernport is one of them.

How will he go in new league?

Waverley have lost Sturt to Ringwood. Ringwood posted on Facebook welcoming him back.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ringwood will need to change roster dramatically. As successful as they were in SCM, Snow and Clarke won't be more than backups in the new league

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

I heard Wallan were opening the bank account and going at this season with a big push for promotion, that was the word from the President when I last saw him in September

Coburg have tweaked the squad with rumours that inured import from last year is back and has been firing off in East Coast Summer leagues in the USA, they have also have been given a wage budget (which they didn't have last year) and have spent it wisely with some players making it down the freeway to them.

Ovi Magebor (I have spelt that wrong) is back from college and looks to have all but signed for Eltham, powerful 3 man and would compliment Trevors shuffle offence

what else ......

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Reality  
Last month

Be interesting to see if any of the Melb teams go hard at Daly, Thomas, McDaniel, Jamieson, Burdon

Obviously a couple of those guys bare pretty settled in Mount but if they want to keep playing elite level bball they'll need to look at coming to Melbourne.

You'd think the Big V teams stepping up would been keen to add the experience these guys could bring.

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(none)  
Last month

Jamieson just signed to play AFL in Canberra.

I'd be surprised if any of those SA guys want anything to do with basketball vic, can't entirely blame them either.

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Reality  
Last month

if they wanted to play at the best level mving to vic or qbl are the only options.

Not sure because of whats happened would turn them off playing in Victoria

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anonymous  
Last month

Burdon has been reaching out to Melb clubs.
McDaniel is over with Melbourne United so he will likely be with a Melb team
Thomas will definitely be in the new league as he wants to be in NBL

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Reality  
Last month

Burdon would be a great fit for a number of the clubs coming from Big V add shooting and experience.

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Anonymous  
Last month

When do they typically release fixture for upcoming season in Big V?

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Big V last year waited till almost tip off for some of the leagues.

with some of the travel needed for Div 1 you'd hope they would give clubs a heads up.

Forget sorting out that tournament and spend on promotion and fixture organization.

Before someone jumps on me; I know that some of the issues were from clubs not paying fees on time and also hedging bets on placing teams in leagues. Div 2 women had byes after byes because of Keysborough dropping out & teams like Coburg & Sherbrooke should of sat the season out.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Interested to see the proposed fixtures. Will CM teams play opposing teams 3 times each?

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(none)  
Last month

Looks like that will be the case.
Tons of travel in D1 - latrobe to warrnambool and everywhere in between.
D2 has MIldura to North-East, down to the Peninsula (for 2 now Mornington are "in").
Fixtures last year were extremely late!

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ANON  
Last month

La Trobe has always travelled to Warnambool even before BIGV began .. nothing new there, country teams are so accustomed to travel they don't bat an eye, it’s the metro teams who think they need a cut lunch to go 20 mins away lol

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

'' it's the metro teams who think they need a cut lunch to go 20 mins away lol''

hahahaha

Totally agree, if you plan to travel then you just travel. It suprises me as most of these kids grow up playing VJBL which has parents driving to Geelong & Ballarat on a Friday night after work, all of sudden a Saturday its too hard.

FIXTURES! is a must early for all teams & coaches, helps with planning and promotion of events around them.

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Anonymous  
Last month

BigV fixtures are never early. Expect end of Jan at best

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jumping in on the "way too early" predictions

CM-Keilor/McKinnon
D1M- WesternPort
D2M-Southern Peninsula

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Anonymous  
Last month

^^Why in the world would Keilor win anything in state champ?? They struggled mightily after being promoted. They have none of the local talent with them and one decent/good import.

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Anonymous  
Last month

State Champ- McKinnon
D1M - Shepp
D2M - Camberwell

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(none)  
Last month

Haha Shepp - hard to win with no players.
Any news on the Camberwell gun recruit?

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anonymous  
Last month

Will be interesting to see how CM rosters eventuate. Some teams would have been recruiting heavily in anticipation of entering the new league.
When not accepted some of the planned recruits may not have worked out.
Also we may see some of the better players in CM teams recruited into the likes of Knox/Eltham/Waverley/Ringwood.

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anon  
Last month

Still wondering myself as to this camberwell "gun"

is Travis from westernport returning or has he signed elsewhere?

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Happy Days  
Last month

Travis signed with Waverley, Westernport have a new import on the way.

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anon  
Last month

HappyDays, I see. Any news of westernport's new incomer? or Camberwell's?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Interesting to see how Travis goes in elite league jumping from div 1

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anon  
Last month

As someone who really only watches D2/D1, how big of a jump is SCM and SEABL?

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Anonymous  
Last month

D2 to d1 is a massive gap.

Top couple d1 teams would be bottom half of scm

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anon  
Last month

Does that apply to imports too or are they no good imports in d2 and d1 compared to SCM and SEABL?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Top d1 imports are as good as others most of time.
Kale Harrison started in d1 and was mvp of scm two years later. Standerfer top player in scm before going to Chelsea.

D2 imports hit and miss.

Get what you pay for.

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anon  
Last month

there*^

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Anonymous  
Last month

Think you'll find not much of a difference between D1 and SCM next year

Standard of D1 has improved out of sight this off season

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Anonymous  
Last month

Based on what I know of player movement

Top 4 teams in SCM
McKinnon, Casey, Chelsea, Keillor

Top 4 teams in D1M
Westernport, Sheparton, Warrnambool, Bulleen

Top 4 teams in D2M
Pakenham, Wallan, RMIT, Craigieburn

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hear WP new import is legit and most likely will be league MVP, plus with the other signings they have will be the team to beat

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Who's at RMIT?

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Anon  
Last month

Lol yet NO ONE has any information on the new Camberwell guy

Who is this "gun" at WesternPort that they're getting then?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Max Barkeley

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Anonymous  
Last month

To be fair i've heard a lot about camberwell’s guy in the last two weeks, just don’t have a name, as for RMIT, who would they have to be bringing in that would vault them to the top already?

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Anonymous  
Last month

If Western Port is getting Barkley, then it checks out. He may be better than Travis.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

To be accepted in the league RMIT would have had to show a proposed roster, yet theres no word on any players or coach?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Luke always gets gun imports. No surprise there

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Anonymous  
Last month

I hear both the Shepparton imports are absolute jets. An improvement on last years that you damn impressive

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Anonymous  
Last month

Were not you ^

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Hoops  
Last month

It was my understanding that Barkeley is Camberwell's gun import not Westernport's... I believe that's what anon^ was trying to say

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who are Bulleen getting ?
Looks like a few taking pot shots on here, pathetic really.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mount gambier for Big V ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pot shots?
Looks like just a discussion to me.

Always good hearing who is going where etc..

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Anonymous  
Last month

Shepparton will only be allowed one import 2019, if bigV follow their rules.

Western Port import should be announced this week

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Anonymous  
Last month

Surely Shep are only allowed 1 import as other teams in Div 1?
Westernport didn't make the GF with Travis so will need a couple of new players if they are to in as favourites

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Anonymous  
Last month

Keys, shep, wp all finished with same record. Wp forced game 3, better form than other two teams at end of season. Would think still have same core/local guys

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol "if Big v follow their rules"

Good luck. Guaranteed they will get 2 imports

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Anon  
Last month

Agreed. Would be shocked if they DIDNT have 2 again

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Anonymous  
Last month

They already have signed two imports.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who have they signed ?

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@#  
Last month

Who have WP signed to getting all this attention?

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Hoops  
Last month

Max Barkeley was the "gun" name tossed around but I'm still not sure if that was in regards to Camberwell or WP...

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Anonymous  
Last month

WP import name is Tanner Samson, posted on their fb page today.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sheesh...I'd say WP would be the heavy favourite now in D1M with that guy^

So does this mean Barkeley is Camberwell’s?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Just Googled these guys.

Tanner Samson played D1 college, had a pre draft workout with Denver Nuggets, and then has been playing in the lower level Spanish leagues, seems legit.

Max Barkeley played D2 college 3 years ago, can't see anything since, can he play?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just looked at film and looks like they are/were both guns. Barkley has potential to be high impact player but like you said I don't see any info on his playing days after his last NCAA season in 2016 so who knows what kind of player he is now or if he’s been sitting on he couch.

As for Tanner Samson has been busy in Spain and looks like the real deal for sure in my opinion... WP lucked out.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Take the 3 ball away and what else does he have ??
Be interesting to see what else he can bring to the table.

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Reality  
Last month

The level Samson playing is on par with D2/1 is its pretty poor basketball.


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Anonymous  
Last month

Travis didn't exaclty come over with a tonne of fanfare or looking spectacular. Sure this guy will be fine.

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Hoops  
Last month

From the YouTube/google, Barkeley looked like the more complete player that can create and isn't just a shooter but like OP said he’s also a huge question mark cause there’s no info on his playing career in the last 2 years.

Also I didn’t know Spain lower division was similar to D1/2 in Big v??

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Hoops  
Last month

And yes Travis was virtually unknown until he got here too, seemed to work out fine. I'll bet this Samson signing does too... don’t know how Travis will dare in the new league though... seems like a big jump.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You would think Samson is early favourite for MVP. Big guard who will dominate

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Anonymous  
Last month

Did that Travis do anything else besides shoot 3's though? 30 points per game is impressive. Can Samson do the same? Looking at WP previous record in 2017 they didn't win much games. Seems Luke and Travis got things going out there. Would be nice to see WP back in winning form like last season.

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Greggo  
Last month

Travis is a pretty complete scorer. Big body guard that used his frame to attack as well as shoot.

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Anonymous  
Last month

McKinnon will be favourites once again with the players they have rostered. Whether they can perform to those heights is another conversation.

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x  
Last month

WP import will be a gun, i hear he is better than Travis.

I also hear they have a few other big signings, would have to think that they start favorites for D1M

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who have McKinnon rostered? Will they be better than Hawthorn

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anonymous  
Last month

I have heard that McKinnon's imports are:
- Dillon Stith (dominates at SCM)
- Eric Williams

will likely have Ivan and and Tomada back.

Big question is whether Deng Deng returns.

If Deng doesn't return and Maybank is a coach only, then they may struggle with depth.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Dylan Travis best aspects were he's movement without the ball and then when he had the ball he had great skills of both sides of he’s body.
Could catch/shoot, pull up off the dribble or finish at the rim really well which made him extremely hard to slow up.

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Anon  
Last month

WP have signed some guns already and will be tough to beat, Bulleen should give them a red hot go this season and Shep and Warrnambool will be there abouts again, look to see Melb Uni troubling teams, heard Keysie again have different roster so hard to judge that club season to season, change players and stadiums too many times to be taken too serious surely.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Keysie have some big signings - will be up their as favs

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anonymous  
Last month

Have Bulleen got any new players?
Their 2nd leading scorer has left.
Are they getting Varmall back as import?
New coach may bring some guys over from Melbourne? Kinkella?

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Anon  
Last month

Keysie big signings? Who would they be as they all usually stay for a year don't they? Good luck to them if they have though!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is keys import this season ??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ivan has been trying out with other teams. He is not at McKinnon this season.

Eric Williams and Dillion Stith together will be good import duo

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Tritom  
Last month

No chance keysy are up there next year. They over achieved this year making finals nothin more than a bunch of hasbeens thinking they are better than they are.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why wouldn't they be if bring back same core and a decent import?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ivan - from Cougar to Cougar?

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Anon  
Last month

As mentioned before, Keysie recycle players every year, they don't have junior program for home grown talent

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Anonymous  
Last month

But have had same core for past 3 or so years. Will be fine

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Anon  
Last month

Again no juniors then no sustainability, but good luck to them!

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Greggo  
Last month

How is there no sustainability? They've had 4 very good years and continue to look positive... Axe to grind anon?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hawthorn to retain all significant players of their 2018 team.

Also heard Ivan Platenik is looking elsewhere of McKinnon.

MTG: which players from 2018 will stay? Assume Daly & Burdon will want to continue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Do hawthorn have the same imports??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not sure about Kirksey but I heard that Jordan Latham retired

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Reality  
Last month

Platnik is looking for a gig in the new league but at this stage hasn't had any takers at his asking price.


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Anon  
Last month

Hey Greggo, no axe mate, actually played there a few years back and left on my own choice. Just know that it has very little in people helping the club and financially strapped, only works when older players looking for more minutes than they are getting at their current clubs. Every season current players look around for better options but no-one really puts hands out to them. I left and luckily found new club and how good is it to have juniors coming through at a steady place

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anonymous  
Last month

At the AGM was their any clarification on imports allowed?

Elite League - 2
State Champ - 2
Div 1 - 1 (maybe 2 for country teams???)
Div 2 - 1 Only

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Anonymous  
Last month

Everyone in D1 only allowed 1 import except Shep they tell the league how many they want

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Anonymous  
Last month

Keysie crack me up no player stays more than 2 yrs

They allowed to play D1 with only 5 Vjbl teams

New stadium every second season playing out of high schools with 30 seats

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anonymous  
Last month

Keysie are an odd team but they are competitive though so I guess it works. La Trobe on the other hand need to be in Div 2!

Also if Shep get 2 imports again in Div 1 that would be laughable as the league said last year they wouldn't be allowed to this year.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mount Gambier
City in South Australia

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Anonymous  
Last month

Anonymous 080
Ignorant d@#%h&#d.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol another year, another thread bagging Keysborough.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Gee Sherbrooke's import looks underwhelming. Will be great for the odd highlight play though.

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Wasn't Sherbrookes last import like that??

VJBL isn't the basis behind having a Big V Program, but it certainly makes life easier if you have a bigger junior program as they pay entry fees, and those parents own businesses to help sponsor.

Coburg don't have a big junor program, big history small program, neither does Sherbrooke or Warrandyte for that matter.

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we know who you are  
Last month

Maybe people at Sherbrooke should keep their opinons about Keysborough to themselves. Concentrate on Division 2.

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Anonymous  
Last month

scared of the competition anon?? perhaps you would care to enlighten me as to which state Hobart, Launceston and Davenport are in? Albury, is that in victoria?

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(none)  
Last month

Any other import signings at Champ, D1 or D2?

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Hoops  
Last month

Barkeley to Camberwell is official now per the Big V website.

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Anon  
Last month

@hoops Who knows what kind of player he is now though

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Anonymous  
Last month

A few things. Camberwell wouldn't be paying this guy anything. I trained with him a month ago and he will probably be camberwell's 5th best player on the team. He will average 6 points and a couple of rebounds and assists. He is just a long line of dud imports over here ringing every club in every division hoping that someone will sign them up.

On sherbrooke you know the import must be bad if in the article they only mention game highs that he had in a whole season instead of what his averages were.

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Hoops  
Last month

I really doubt that but who knows^. Watching any sort of film on him indicates otherwise. However it's a highlight so that can make anyone look good.

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(none)  
Last month

At the very least he's a scoring threat from the guard spot which camberwell doesn't have otherwise. Good combo with O'Hara. Interesting to see Southern Penn and Camberwell going perimeter with their import selections.

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Imagine a club bucked the trend and paid good money to Aussie Kids, State Level or high prospect kids convinced them to play Div 1 or Div 2 and paid them enough that they had time to practice everyday instead of picking a job or helped with travel costs???

Would they be cheaper than an import??
Would you potentially get more value??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are any Australians paid in Div1/2?

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(none)  
Last month

@PersonalFoul I know of a couple clubs attempting to do this, the tough sell is getting a talented kid out of a higher league to play D1 or D2. Most of the time, money doesn't change the perception of the poor standard of basketball (which is true for the bottom half of D2 - the top half are quality teams).

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Anonymous  
Last month

do you practice because you are getting paid to or do you practice to get better at the sport and aspire to make more money from the results of your game performance?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Agreed. Main issue is getting the local who wants to do that path. Imports are willing to be that player which is why it will happen more than the local.

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

@anon If you have to get a part-time job that effects when you practice then a bit of money can help free you up more to practice.

I know we can pay imports in some cases $20 - 30K per season you could alost split that two ways and get two hopefully quality Aussie Guys that drive, willing to put more into the program, have maybe return from college, etc etc it means they maybe don't have to work during the season.

Good to hear other clubs are trying it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The locals don't bring in the same buzz as imports!

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anonymous  
Last month

I agree w/ the above the post. A majority of people/fans want to see a import. Its very rare that a local can help pack the stadium week in and week out.

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(none)  
Last month

disagree - most fans comes to watch a winning product.
many stadiums across melbourne have imports and empty seats..

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anonymous  
Last month

^^^^^^^ Name some teams

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(none)  
Last month

- Whittlesea
- Wallan
- Sunbury (?)
- North-East

All teams with imports and empty seats.

- Coburg
- Camberwell
- Geelong
- Pakenham

All teams without imports who get decent crowds to watch a relatively good team play.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Whittlesea get decent crowds

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anonymous  
Last month

So let me me rephrase, how many teams worth watching without imports pull big crowds? I see 5 Division two basketball teams listed. Geelong don't have big crowds at all and Sunbury are a bit hot and cold but I can see them being a lot better this year. Whittlesea do a great job but they have an import (Sykes, and he previously played SEABL the year before)

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Anonymous  
Last month

(none) - Just to educate you on something, at Geelong the Big V team did not have imports at all last season and although crowds were not big, all of their efforts to promote and raise a crowd went into the SEABL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

(none) - Geelong Big V has had a regular import before last season and when they promote it, they get some crowd, but more recently it has changed. Now, with the new structure, it will change again and maybe crowds will be drawn to the men and women Big V teams at Bellarine, the Champ Men at Corio Bay and the numerous Youth League teams including Geelong.

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Anonymous  
Last month

'I trained with him a month ago and he will probably be camberwell's 5th best player on the team. He will average 6 points and a couple of rebounds and assists. He is just a long line of dud imports over here ringing every club in every division hoping that someone will sign them up.'
@anonymous..Sounds like sour grapes. Did you get cut??? Just back off.
He's a good bloke who has found himself in Australia for reasons other than bball looking for a game in a sport he loves.
He's not here to be a superstar.
I look forward to watching a game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

^^ Had him training at our club a few months back during last season and can say that while he might not want to be a superstar, I don't anticipate him being much less than one. Kid can flat out play and if we’d had an import spot we would have slotted him in for a game. We even unsuccessfully petitioned for a waiver as he’s currently going through the PR process. If Camberwell indeed got him for free/cheap, they’ve themselves an absolute steal.

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Coburg will have an import this year (returns from knee) and despite having a poor stadium for a crowd always seem to gather the loud locals to get in the stands.

North East issue is that they don't have a home venue they play around the region like a travelling circus at times (at its free to get in and nobody turns up)

I feel for Wallan they had a really crap team last season I reckon there will be more noise coming out of the jungle in 2019

Sherbrooke can be in that boat despite the Mountain Men (missed marketing opportunity) having a small community nobody gives a crap

Suprised with Sunbury on this list along with Pakenham.

Melton did a great job during the season promoting double headers with YL games and filled it up at times.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Coburg will be up there in D1M this year. Their import is unreal and signing Emmanuel Malou who was looked at by NBA teams is huge!

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PersonalFoul  
Last month

Malou legit superstar, should be in SCM unsure why not?

Can he drag a team of Div 2 players to the play-offs?

What is happening at Broadmeadows & Keilor keen to here how these West Powerhouses are shaping up. Saw a call out for housing for Thunder imports who are they??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sour grapes?

It was an open gym session at point cook. There were no try outs.
Like another poster said camberwell didn't go out to find this guy it was suggested to them that hey this bloke is here in australia and wants somewhere to play. Simple as that. He seemed like a good bloke that's true but that has nothing to do with his basketball ability.

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anonymous  
Last month

Broadmeadows putting together a strong roster in both men and women.

Keilor have signed Kaba who played at Knox last season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who do Broadmeadows have?

Is kaba the only import for keilor so far?

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Anonymous  
Last month

So now we're judging a player’s abilities off of a single open gym session rather than a proven resume/actual in-game film?

These grapes just got extra sour.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Having been a big v player in all divisions except youth league for the past 16 years and still putting up numbers I have seen a lot of players turn up to either training sessions or open scrimmage and there are guys who you can tell are pathetic just by looking at them

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pakenham building a solid mens roster
Probs start as favourites in d2m

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Pakenham have the strongest D2 team on paper every year and start as favorites, they spend good money on players, but usually are a flop.

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(none)  
Last month

Who do Pakenham have different from last season? "solid" is all you could call that team.

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anonymous  
Last month

Would D2 teams really pay non-restricted players??? maybe some fuel money or similar.
Surely if you are playing at that level you wouldn't, and shouldn't, be expecting and payments

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Melbourne Boy  
Last month

Payments are how D2 teams get a guy who might be the 5-8th best player in a SCM team where he doesn't get paid.

Last season one D2 teams player budget was $30k, another 2 teams spent $20k.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pakenham have spent more than most SCM teams the last few years

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anonymous  
Last month

Didn't do Pakenham much good. 8th on ladder for regular season.
Interesting to see if they are happy with ROI

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Anonymous  
Last month

ROI?

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(none)  
Last month

Return on Investment ^^

Who the hell are Pakenham paying that money to on that roster would be my question!?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Any one who will take it

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fubr  
Earlier this month

Have just been hearing Bulleen are putting together a reasonable side.. They struggled for the last few years..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this month

Who? Another post with no substance "Bulleen have a good team" have not heard a single person who is going there

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PersonalFoul  
Two weeks ago

Does Gaze take the lions share?

There is no ROI in basketball, the only return is a championship or local celebrity (ok maybe that is ROI for some) you don't sponsors local semi-pro teams looking for financial ROI thats for sure.

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I would think an ROI could be measured in non-financial terms as well.

Making playoffs
Top 4 etc

Depends on what return you are looking for and what KPIs you may set.

Obviously making a financial return is not likely in Australia for bball.

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Why does everyone keep saying teams are putting together a nice roster.....

We need names!!! Or are they just trying to stir the pot....

I hear Derrick McDonald is looking for a game...

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Western Port just announced Daryl Corletto. Random signing but very handy for them.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Can't see anyone getting close to them with him

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PersonalFoul  
Two weeks ago

WP thats a good signing

Derrick not playing anywhere was a bit odd unless he chose to, or not enough money around

Wallan are splashing cash maybe Derrick could go there??

Any import news.

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

NEWS.....Finally!!!

Thats a pretty big signing of Darryl Corletto considering Western Port will add an import as well. They made the semi's last year.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Massive by WP!

They will be better than most of State Champ Men

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

with only 1 import + corletto, I don't think they will be better than any SCM.

Corletto is no longer equivalent to an import...

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Wrong

Almost 400 NBL games gives you experience that wins games.

Take your hate elsewhere. Great signing! Well done Luke.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Most of the imports in D1M are pretty average

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

There are many examples of d1 imports going on to be just as good in higher levels

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

No hate just simple comparison.

Sobey played for D1M team last season and averaged 19ppg.

Given Sobey doesn't have the 400 games experience but I would say he is better than Corletto. A statement that says adding Corletto will make them better than most SCM just isn't accurate.

Great signing by WP all the same

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Greggo  
Two weeks ago

So by that same theory, everyone that averaged over 19ppg in D1 men should be one of the better players in the NBL yeah?

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

No that is not theory.

Simply saying that Seahawks had a current boomer in their lineup last season (for only 9 games) plus an import and they weren't able to win all 9 games.

Adding Corletto (a role player at NBL) to WP is a good signing but claiming that they are now better than most SCM teams is getting a bit excited.

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A  
Two weeks ago

Clearly Anonymous has issues with WP

Great signing! Sobey was just casually having a run with mates. Big difference!

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

At the end of the day, none of us really know until they tip off in March and play out the season so while it's fun to predict/project all these guys, we really have no idea.

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hoops  
Two weeks ago

Agreed. Tanner Samson, Barkeley, Corletto, Pakenham's "strong" roster that makes them favorites. I'm sure they can play but WILL they is the question. There are so many variables that many seem to ignore here in a forum that on the court can make or break an import or high-level local.

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

How people write off all these other teams before the season starts astounds me... Everytime there is a star studded roster or suppose ably good side, they don't win it all...Just wait till April / May before you do predictions...

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anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I don't have anything against WP and totally agree that signing Corletto is great for them and for the league.

The problem I had was the comment that this signing now makes WP better than most SCM teams.

Agree that we won't really know until the season kicks off but the banter gives us something do in the meantime.

Obviously there are contributors that actually know how teams are forming and others that are just trolling looking for a bite.

All will be known soon.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Corio Bay SCM must have recruited a couple of big locals. Story in Geelong paper from Hutchy saying they have a group of solid aussie locals and signing 2 imports. No hint who but looking at guards.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

With the chargers falling out the new Elite League, what are the possibilities of Vic Clubs raiding the island for its best players, paying them and housing them?

Bit like what AFL sides have done at a local level

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Anonymous  
Last week

RMIT University only just hosting tryouts now..... how good do they expect to be?

Rumours are Aaron Pantano and Coach Marty Ford are there. What's the story with these guys?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

RMIT still no annoumcements on any actual signed players, and the coach they signed 2 weeks ago is now not coaching, so officially no coach yet either. Season approaching fast, you wonder if they'll actually be able to field a team.

Marty Ford and Aron Pantano were at Maryborough CBL a few years back for half a season, not sure they'd be leading a new program.

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Anonymous  
Last week

RMIT seem to have started quite late to get this team together before the xmas break. Be interesting to see what they can produce, Div 2 men need a whipping boy I guess.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Can confirm both Aron and Marty were there today at their second tryout. First Coach got fired after the first session....

They have another tryout tomorrow.

Surely all the exisiting "good" players in Vic have been taken up by now? Tryouts for many clubs are done & are already in preseason mode.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Lmao the Carlos Keiser of Australian basketball!!!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Now thats a reference! XD

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

Just googled Carlos Keiser, so true, that's absolute GOLD!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Care to explain?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Carlos Keiser was a conman .

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Anonymous  
Last week

Turn up at random bottom feeder team, claim past history that people at said club are none the wiser. Plays sparingly or barely trains, claims long injury list etc. then leaves due to work commitments ways away as people realise the story and the reality may not match up

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Anonymous  
Last week

Any news from teams? Any signings or team lists posted?

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Reality  
Last week

Aron Pantano...lolz!

Google him if you'd like to enjoy a good laugh particularly if you waste the five minutes watching his awesome highlights then the articles/news features!



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Anonymous  
Last week

Ok that highlight reel was awesome the guy plays like a 40 yr old at midweek A Grade, anybody can make the local paper in Queensland

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Anonymous  
Last week

It's not fair sometimes, Pantano happened to score all his points and dominate leagues in seasons where there are no statistical records easily found, then the few games where stats are online he barely played, poor guy can't catch a break.

All the seasons in Big V with Latrobe City, Melton, Pakenham, Coburg, Altona, SEABL with Albury, QBL with Toowoomba, Gladstone, CBL with Wallan, Maryborough, NZNBL with ??? Why won't anyone believe him how good he actually is? Look out Big V D2 that's all I'll say!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Thanks Aron

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Greggo  
Last week

Who was the coach that signed 2 weeks ago and isn't there any more?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

Moresi was the coach, from Melb Uni last year

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Anon  
Last week

Why did he go?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

I'd like to know what happened to the RMIT roster and coach that were presented to Big V on paper to gain entry a few months back?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

Reason Moresi gone... probably depends who you ask

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(none)  
Last week

RMIT will be out of the league next year if those 2 clowns are running the show.

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Reality  
Last week

If you gonna be a gun player or at least portray that you are perhaps getting into shape would be a good starting point.

On a serious note thou perhaps if you have disillusions of grandeur and mental health concerns vising https://www.sane.org/ wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Anyone else noticed the bigV page has been down a while?

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Greggo  
Last week

so what's happening at RMIT?

They hired a coach 2 weeks ago who now isn't there?

And now they're running tryouts after most people have found teams?

What could happen in two weeks for this change? Sounds like a shambles

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

They hired Moresi, then announced tryouts, then Moresi was gone after the first session, now someone who's apparently coached overseas is in, tryouts continue.

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Greggo  
Last week

Why was he gone though? I assume if he walked after one session he wasn't happy with how the club is being run...

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(none)  
Last week

Right - why was the coach let go so soon? Or did he walk out?

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Anonymous  
Last week


PersonalFoul
Last week

WP thats a good signing

Derrick not playing anywhere was a bit odd unless he chose to, or not enough money around

Wallan are splashing cash maybe Derrick could go there??

Any import news.


Wallan don't pay anyone I don't know where you get splashing cash from.
The import they get each year is a budget import at best that's why they never produce anything and live in a local home and work at the club.

As for others one guy works for the club also and another is getting a few grand from a sponsorship. There is no big bucks floating around.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I can't believe teams can get sucked in so badly by conmen. Ford has talked in the past about matching up against jordan in college and the most ridiculous stories no one of sane mind would believe yet there are just some poor individuals and clubs that have to find out the hard way. RMIT will not last the season out next year.
The thing I always ask of a so called gun player or coach is if they are so awesome how come they aren't already part of a team for 2019?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Players said that the coach did not fit the culture they were after.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

So who's coaching now? And who are these players?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Martyn Ford I believe! He has run tryout 2 & 3.

The players at tryouts have been mainly a collection of RMIT's domestic team.... there has been limited interest from RMIT’s Silver winning Uni championship team - as all of them already play at a high level with exisiting clubs.

In terms of "names", I can’t give you any that would be commonly known around the BigV.

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(none)  
Last week

So the players run the joint? Recipe for disaster.
Can't believe Big V let them into an already saturated league of 12 teams.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Any idea why the BigV website is down?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Whats happening at Bellarine, are they in the same postion as RMIT with locals already committed to existing clubs. Yes I know no Geelong but they also just held second try out last Thursday.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

So Martyn Ford will be coaching a team in Big V with a roster full of RMIT domestic players without any Big V experience, then will add Aron Pantano and an import? Good luck!

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anon  
Last week

RMIT have a pretty rich history of solid Big V and SEABL player in their unigames program. It's pretty amazing none of them were able to be recruited.

As someone mentioned they finished 2nd in the Aus champs this year with a pretty solid team (a lot of Keilor guys amongst others) and over the past 8 years have had some guns going through.

Wonder if they reached out.

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Anonymous  
Last week

You would hope the league did their due diligence before admitting them to the league........

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

You wonder if RMIT presented Big V an inaugural roster full of players from the Uni Games team without actually knowing if any would play?

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Bear  
Last week

Anon^ I think you will find there is enough talent in the Geelong area to cater for Bellarine's teams, however big changes are happening and if they are to submit Big V teams (including YL) they do have to consider quite a number of players and scenarios.

Yes, players have moved, some to Elite League from SCM, rosters are being confirmed and posted online, players are committing to clubs, the SCM at Corio Bay will also have big changes and Bellarine being new kids on the block will have to present their teams as they confirm them like the rest.

One thing is for sure, the whole restructure has shaken things up and we will all have to take a breath at some point to make sense of it all...

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Anonymous  
Last week

damn its amazing how much you guys know about our tryouts.

Any advice for the year?

RMIT committeeman

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Anonymous  
Last week

Well RMIT committeeman, if that is true, would you care to enlighten us on your roster and coaching situation?

This may be just an internet forum but often if you read between the lines on most topics there lies a fair bit of truth.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Martyn Ford will be our coach, our roster will probably be finalized this week

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hume City have signed Jordan Coleman and Jake Martin.

Coleman was import at Keilor last two season. Martin played in WA SbL for Goldfield Giants.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Well I hope you did your reference checks on Ford and called the delegates from his previous listed clubs on his resume, just to be sure you're getting what you've been sold.
Also looking forward to to seeing the roster too, I heard a few players you thought would move clubs and play for you ended up staying put, for your sake I hope you have at least a starting 5 with Big V experience.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Jordan Coleman to Hume City will be big for them but maybe even bigger as a blow to Keilor as he was basically the only player on that roster who belonged in that league after the move up to SCM... Any word on who they are they replacing him with??

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anonymous  
Last week

Hume looks to be ok as Martin is a aust citizen, so 1 more import.
Hear they have some good young guys come to club also

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anonymous  
Last week

Keilor got Kaba from Knox who probably replaces the other big import from last season. If they get a good wing then there import combo will be solid

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anonymous  
Last week

Question is why can't teams retain good imports? I see a lot of recycled imports within teams in the BigV...is it money? or character?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Not a single import returning in D1M
Only the Craigiburn import returning in D2M

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Hoops  
Last week

Kaba will be a big step up from Keilor's big last year^^

I think it's a mixture of a few aspects but I would think imports will go where the money is most of the time and rightfully so since that's what they're here for. Jordan must have been offered more money seeing as though he'd been at Keilor for 3 years, wouldn't have been a character issue?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Aron pantano to ny knicks

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Anonymous  
Last week

what should a good big v import be paid per week in champ d1 d2? I know it all can differ depending on club but in general?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Import being kept is always money and situation. Small clubs bring in import on a small budget they run clinics live with the coach. BIG club comes along offers more money, better living maybe a car rental and there you go.

In fact I have told coaches in the past don't recruit imports from overseas, just pick up the ones who play well for smaller clubs, that way you know they can compete in the league and aren't bums

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Hoops  
Last week

What is this Aron Pantano speak everyone is joking about? Too much going on in this thread, don't feel like reading through it all.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Aron Pantano, aka the "Carlos Kaiser" of Australian basketball, looks like being RMITs supposed top recruit, this is after Steve Moresi, the original coach who signed there from Melb Uni, who was bringing a few players left after 1 week, only to be replaced by the honest and trustworthy Martyn Ford, who happens to be Pantanos mate.

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anonymous  
Last week

While I do get some imports are chasing more money or a better opportunity but from recent talk to one club they have said they have heard from 5 or 6 different guys looking for gigs that played last year or the year before.

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anonymous  
Last week

The facts are that state level leagues in Aust are really viewed as a stepping stones for a lot of imports.
Whether they are straight from college or have had a few issues in getting their career started, a majority (rightly or wrongly) will accept contracts lower than what they may think they are worth and attempt to get a solid season on their resume.
From there they may look to Europe or, as we have seen, try and move up the leagues in Aust.

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Hoops  
Last week

^^^#103 Agreed. This is the most common explanation of imports in the second/third tiers of Australia.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last week

Some clubs are more prepared to take an unknown import knowing theres a chance they're a stud, other clubs prefer to get an existing import so as you know what you're getting. Pros and cons to each option.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hearing Waverley are going this route again this year. Lately have signed pretty dud imports off their own bat. The ones they have recruited in past from other places have panned out well. Sedale probably the best example.

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anonymous  
Last week

Yea word is Dylan Travis (Div1 Men's MVP) last season from Western Port is going to Waverley....

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Anonymous  
Last week

Kaba is a downgrade from the import from last season. Coleman had better numbers and was a better player.

Big pickup for Hume as Coleman is one of the younger imports in the league. Surprised he didn't go join his best mate Lemons at Casey.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I have also heard Dylan Travis is at Waverley and they threw pretty low money at him...

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Greggo  
Last week

I'd take Kaba over Coleman every time

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anonymous  
Last week

Coleman more of a wing, Kaba a stretch 4.
Different roles.
I don't think Kaba would be as successful for Keilor if he is asked to play same role as Coleman.
Likewise if Coleman was asked to play Kaba's role.

I would think that Keilor will have Kaba playing the 4 spot and a new import to play 3 (replacing Coleman)

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Greggo  
Last week

Have to disagree there too. Kaba may be able to play the 4 but he is a wing. Good outside shooter and crafty with the ball in hands getting to the ring. I'd say he's a better version of Coleman.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Who will play the 5 for keilor? They must have recruited a local big man?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Kaba is not built for the 4. He will play best at wing. Common problem for him at Knox was that he was too weak to guard the 4 and play in post.

Keilor will not be as good without Coleman. Time will show. And watch Hume be a better team with him.

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anonymous  
Last week

I think both are quality players at the SCM level.

Coleman more athletic off the wing, Kaba prob better rebounder and shooter.

But will be interesting to see how both go in new teams.

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anonymous  
Last week

Keilor likely:

Crowe
Spencer
Import
Symons
Kaba

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Greggo  
Last week

Chuck Long?

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Hoops  
Last week

I was meaning that Kaba will be an upgrade from Keilor's import big last season...losing Jordan will hurt a lot. Keilor has also signed a 5'11 PG from the states as their other import..

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Anonymous  
Last week

Kaba as the 5?

Chuck long as a 5 man?

Who is this pg import for keilor? Have a name?

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Anonymous  
Last week

The coaches mate brooklyn carey to play the 5 spot

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anonymous  
Last week

Chuck Long - naturalised??? (4,5)
Kaba (4,5)
Import
Joel Bellman
Spencer or Crowe

6th man BJ Symons

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Anonymous  
Last week

Crowe is not playing next year

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Anonymous  
Last week

Who do we all see as being in the top four of scm?
Guessing top four will be finals as it's only a 9 team league?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Below average list for keilor.

Cant picture them being very competitive or in the top 4 with that lineup.

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Anonymous  
Last week

My prediction for top 4

Casey, McKinnon, Hawthorn, either Hume or Chelsea.

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anonymous  
Last week

Will SCM Casey or McKinnon finally win a flag....They get talked up every year by BigV but have fallen short...Could this be their year w/ Ringwood and a few others finally out of there way???

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Anonymous  
Last week

Scm - Casey, Hume, Keilor
SCW - Sunbury , southern pen
D1 - western Port, Warrandyte, Warrnambool
D1W - Mildura , ??
D2M - Craigeburn, Wallan
D2W - Blackburn, Melbourne uni

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Anonymous  
Last week

This is the year for Casey.

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Anon  
Last week

Casey will be team to beat, tough competition from McKinnon and Chelsea as Standerfer will always be hard to stop

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Anon  
Last week

Casey will be team to beat, tough competition from McKinnon and Chelsea as Standerfer will always be hard to stop

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Anonymous  
Last week

Be good after all of these years for their men's to finally win a title. Out of the four teams have been provided all of the support and only one of the teams to not win a championship. What’s coming through though after this season and beyond with an ageing list?

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Anonymous  
Last week

They have young import in Lemons. Believe he is 24.

Would have to recruit younger locals once the aging group calls it quits.

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anonymous  
Last week

Mckinnon - Stith, Tomada, Eric Williams, Deng?
Hawthorn - Barry, Bogart-King, Kirk Smith, +2 imports
Casey - Lemons, Donlan, Polk, Louis, Hobba
Hume - Jeka, Prendergast, Jake Martin, Jordan Coleman, +import
Keilor - Kaba, Long, Simmons, Spencer, +import
Werribee - ?
Corio - ?
Blackburn - Trewella, D'Agostino, Malvaso, imports?
Chelsea - Standerfer, Colin Voss?, Brasser, Riggs

So if these are the main players from each team my predictions would be:

1) Hawthorn - if imports are quality then it is a tough starting group and some depth on bench.
2) McKinnon - If Deng is back then they have a group of 4 players that are as good as any in league. Would have been #1 if Ivan was still there.
3) Hume - Jeka/Martin/Coleman/Import gives them a solid core. Add Prendergast and some exciting young guys and they will be a big improver.
4) Casey - Experience is off the charts. Age of list may mean injuries or issues hanging with teams like McKinnon who will be very athletic.
5) Chelsea - Standerfer will be one of best in league. Big step up for Voss from D2M, will be interesting to see how he adapts. Similar for Brasser/Riggs, big difference between D1 and D2.
6) Keilor - Two solid imports should get them some Ws
7) Werribee - unknown roster
8) Corio - unknown roster
9) Blackburn - if they don't have 2 x solid imports then they may struggle. If they get imports then they could move up to 5-7

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hawthorn have Nelson Kirksey as one of their imports.

Doubt deng is back at McKinnon. Would be looking in elite league.

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