Jack Toft
Earlier this year

Adelaide v Bris-Vegas Jan 12

It's hot, hot, hot in Adelaide and the race for 4th spot is even hotter with Brisbane and Adelaide set to have a go at each other this afternoon.

Perth are under pressure too and could see themselves included in this fight in the next rouse or so if they continue their losing ways.

Brisbane are bouncing along just doing enough at the moment, but they need to do more to secure a finals spot. Adelaide have patches of brilliance dispersed like diamonds in the sands of disappointment that get into the crevices you don't want sand to get into. I'm still trying to work out if Joey is the Joker. A madman with a plan, or just a mad man with a plan.

Today, the battle royale will be served hot and there will be some battles to watch out for. The battle of the Brick Sh!thouses - Hodgson v Frohling. Both young fellows, both built like the proverbial brick. The battle of the Beaus - Cadee v Sobey. Both good looking fellows popular with the ladies, both deadly outside the arc. Then there's the battle of the Beasts - Conger v Patterson. Both deadly around the boards and both able to rip a game apart. Then of course there is Gibbo. He might be coming off the bench these days, but he always seems to find a lazy 10 points against Adelaide.

I've given up tipping. My tip is the kiss of death. Last time these teams met it was Adelaide who beat home team Brisbane by 10, perhaps the away team will win again?

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

The loser of this match drops two games behind Perth.
Brisbane to win.

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Today's Courier said that Patterson would welcome staying on with Brisbane following this season. Hope the team can hang on to him.

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UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

Dropping 2 games behind Perth not an issue at this stage, but not getting a game on NZ could be telling at season's end.

I can picture Jack walking along Glenelg beach, scouring the sands of disappointment to try to find a diamond for the love he’ll never meet.

Anyways, I’m off the bullet train for today. Got sbsviceland on with the slow train experience. Cool stuff for background while you go about your business on a lazy Saturday.

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

Plenty of gold along Glenelg beach

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Big Ads  
Earlier this year

Adelaide surprised me on thursday so I am expecting them to disappoint today. I doubt they have the stamina or discipline to beat Brisbane.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I can imagine Jack finding the diamond and giving it to his crush, ignoring the restraining order she took out on him years ago, as he lets his creepy obsession with her influence every waking thought he has....just like his obsession with mentioning the Wildcats.

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Rat10  
Earlier this year

That's pretty negative Big Ads. Not the Big Ads I remember! Every reason to be positive about Adelaide given their form. I didn’t see the start of the previous game but is this the first time Joey has started Froling and DJ together? I like it!

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

I get the feeling AJ Davis is trash

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Sounds like Davis was signed as bench depth, so not sure that it matters so much either way. Huge game for both teams.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Teys reeks

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL refs legit make the calls up at least half the time .
F..kin terrible both ways again today .

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

such a poor comentary team.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Russell still can't interpret basic calls by the refs.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

4 minutes of gane time continually talking about perth ??

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Perthworld is the centre of the NBL universe.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

Apparently we have both shane frolling and armani(?) moore playing today.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

such a poor comentary team.

Yeah, the NBL need to do better in this area next season. I'm enjoying the actual game but they're not helping at all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Russell is a dreadful NBL caller. Williams just talks rubbish. And Greenwood barely says anything. Another example of how bad NBL commentary is these days. There's maybe one decent caller (Casey) and two or three decent analysts. Otherwise the rest are either mediocre or absolute trash.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

The two games last night were really quite well commentated, and seemed to have a better video editing group as well, have missed a few "wanted to see" live moments already today.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

err -- perhaps I should have said "not as bad as usual " ?

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

The problem with Adelaide continually complaining about contact is this:

Their whole offensive approach is to generate contact and go at bodies, and they want every bit of contact is a foul. They don't consider what the defence is doing, they just feel contact and say "well hey it's a foul because I was good enough to make contact with a defensive player". It's an entitled mindset imo, and they prey on incompetent refs and the movement of soft officiating in basketball. It's smart but damn it's off-putting. To me, players and refs don't seem to have respect for each other, same goes for refs and coaches

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

When NBL becomes more prominent over the next few years, specialist basketball commentators will come out of the woodwork.

When basketball becomes more mainstream, there will be more of an effort put toward getting basketball calling right. Fox bosses don't care if the NBL is top shelf, but they make damn sure NRL, AFL, BBL is right.

Give it time, we'll have a lot better product perhaps even as soon as next season when Fox pays to show NBL, not the other way around. If a network is paying for coverage, and paying top dollar, they're more inclined to get it right

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Pete  
Earlier this year

If we win this, I'm putting money down on a championship this year.

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Pete  
Earlier this year

Mainly since Perth have gone to absolute dogshit.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Froling should maybe try looking when he passes.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"When basketball becomes more mainstream, there will be more of an effort put toward getting basketball calling right."

I think you have it the wrong way around. Commentary like this will prevent basketball from going mainstream in the first place.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

How hot is Froling from three? Plus he hustles.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Not sure how Davis got called for that foul.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

It's not the other way around, you're talking about a separate issue to me. Commentary won't be the make or break of expansion

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Simple explanation, Angus, he is a new import. Hazing is a thing in the NBL

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Pete  
Earlier this year

Welcome back, Meech :)

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Commentary is full of amateurs right now since there's only so much LK can pay on production. A real TV deal would bring more professionalism.

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Big Ads  
Earlier this year

I happy to be proven wrong R10 but I think both Brisbane and Dre are smarter than the Sixers and wil expliot their lack discipline, especially in the backend of the game when fatigue kicks in.

This is a relatively inexperienced Sixers team and too many times this season the senior players have failed to lead them when the pressure is on.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No Manu I was not talking about expansion I was talking about becoming mainstream which are the exact words you used. Mainstream means regular sports fans tuning in rather than just hard core hoops fans. A bad quality tv package holds that back and bad commentary equals a bad tv package.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Did you not see the comeback win in Thursday?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

on*

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

any chance of talking about the game ? - while its actually on ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Another Lemanis spud signing with Davis Jnr. Looking forward to getting Joey back next season.

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Pete  
Earlier this year

Is Wiley hurt or just randomly out of favour this week?

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Pete  
Earlier this year

Have faith Big Ads. I may even actually use the season pass sat next to me at this rate.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Davis is complete garbage. Why even bother?

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

13 sec left in the quarter commentary "important minutes here for brisbane " ???

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Pete  
Earlier this year

^ math isn't high on the credential list for commentators.

It's an exceptionally short list.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

I get it, anon, expanding their foothold in the Australian sporting landscape is what I meant, not expansion team.

And I don't see commentary being the make or break for expanding the league's foothold in the Australian sporting landscape. I see it is more irritating for those of us who are established fans, rather than those who are trying the product

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

According to CJ Bruton, Davis is a special player. Struggling to find what's special

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Froling's a good player and only going to get better.

Shame he acts like a whingey flog most of the time.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sammy is finally on the scoreboard

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pretty telling that Davis trialled with Brisbane in the pre season and they didn't sign him then.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mr Show Business getting it done when it matters!

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Son of NBA player did OK on that drive.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Choo Choo!

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Okay okay, get him on a straight-line drive to the cup and he's okay. Everything else is, as a mate of mine put it, warehouse at best

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Imagine if Gliddon did this consistently.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Big Ads was right. Good call.

Maybe don't give Te Rangi an eternity to setup for three, Sixers.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

36ers - no rebounds ATn - thats just effort...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

21-2 fourth quarter for Brisbane

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Adelaide's D is awful right now. And their offense isn’t much better. This might be over. 21-2 in the quarter.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Plus they're putting up junk.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Big ups to Big Ads

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cadee being out there is keeping Adelaides chances alive

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Patterson is playing almost Rashad Tucker-esque today

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No rebounding and leaving 3 point shooters open . Recipe for a loss any day of the week

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

3 rebounds by Harry is just not enough..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Russell completely missed Te Rangi's basket then, instead carrying on about the bloody cheeseburgers. Pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cadee still working hard for the 36ers

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J  
Earlier this year

How did cadee just get a usf haha wtf

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

That's a real one-pot, rainy Tuesday night grandma special recipe home cooking there by refs. God love em

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Turned out to accidentally be a smart USF by Cadee because the retaliation becomes a bench tech

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Every possible foul in the mix there. One-pot special

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What is a normal number of pots Manu?

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carl haigh  
Earlier this year

That's completely unforgivable performance by ADELAIDE in the fourth and has pretty much cost them a finals spot

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sobey puts up a lot of garbage. Always too long.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So because DJ was "on the bench" when he got his USF, Adelaide got 2 free throws and the ball back, where as Brisbane got 3 free throws, rather than Brisbane getting 2 free throws?
Something's stuffed up there, whether or not it was the refs or FIBAs rule changes trying to be too smart.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They should get a 3rd import

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

What a great afternoon

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Ushiro  
Earlier this year

Sobey has once again cost the 36ers a game by his poor ball handling in the last quarter. Poor defence against three point shooters, as usual by the team, and not giving the ball to the hot shooters from the third quarter. Froling repeatedly free early in the last quarter after shooting 4/6 three pointers and repeatedly ignored. Conger finally gets the ball after 4:30 in the last quarter and immediately scores. So frustrating to see the same problems each week cost the game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

One more point and it's an even better afternoon

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Thankyou Bullet$$$

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And it's a win for Adelaide fans too because free cheeseburgers
Win-win day

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

6ers half court game, particularly under pressure late in games, is amateur at best. No team work, ball movement, purpose off the ball and is this current teams Achilles heel.
Hard to watch at a Pro level. Must have discipline and structure in the half to compliment their great running game, they need to learn an offence or two.
Hero ball under pressure but lacking the heroes.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

HUNDRED. Oh baby.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't worry 6ers fans your team will still finish top 4 thanks to Perth

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Joeys_Right  
Earlier this year

Frolling 4/6 from 3 and great hustle, Deng 2/2 from 3.
Final minutes? Better play Teys who hasn't scored a field goal today and then throws a massive brick at the end.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sixers face Wildcats next so not all is lost.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

Cadee , last 12 seconds, 3pt, and a turnover after trying to get a foul from a pair of 36ers who were not going to help pad his stats.

was there any effective strategy provided to the 36ers in the last quarter ?

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Very Old  
Earlier this year


Ushiro - its not sobey , so much as there being no other playewr who steps up when Sobey is not having a stellar game, bench time is good for a point player to "reset" mentally after a poor start - but who else produces so much with any sort of reliabilty ?

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Udog  
Earlier this year

Went to the game today. 36ers looked knackered and sloppy at the end of the 3rd when they should have been putting the game away. And DJ got fouled so much the whole game and it just gets waived away.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Sixers face Wildcats next so not all is lost."
Yes they have the easiest run home in the league with 3 games vs Perth still to come

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lucky most 36ers fans are on their way home now because they won't like what is on Foxtel right now

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Ushiro  
Earlier this year

Very Old - Sobey was the one who turned to ball over and took the poor forced shots in the first 4.5 minutes of the last quarter when the game was lost. Drmic helped him with a few of his choices too. Not the first time either. Not all Sobey's fault of course - there is a coach who either doesn't make decisions or just whinges to the refs. They are highly paid professionals, just need to act like it at times. The good first three quarters were blown away by the poor last quarter, with the game lost in the first half of it. Even Homicide said that Sobey needed to look at the last quarter and learn from it :)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If homicide said it then it must be legit

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Beantown  
Earlier this year

Just got home and I have one thing to say: Where the fuck was Froling in the 4th quarter? He was one of the biggest reasons we won the first three quarters! His defence and boxing out were huge against Brisbane's big frontcourt and his threes were a real problem for their defence too.

Instead, Joey plays small to try to matchup with Brisbane and refuses to change when DJ is exhausted, Patterson is scoring at will and Wiley is giving TeRangi wide open threes after we’d kept him quiet all game!

Got to be the worst coaching I’ve seen from Joey and it’s probably cost us finals this year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I doubt it has cost finals but good call about Froling. Bizarre rotations in the 4th.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

"Even Homicide said that Sobey needed to look at the last quarter" , actually he said the whole game, and I don't rate him as a true judge of a game, either as am observer or a participant.

Moore was absent much of the game, wiley has great effort but little direction, DJ was left to be out-rebounded most of the game, and I think that Joey's "system" has become very chaotic as the season has gone on, I don't know if thats because the players won't execute it, if they don't understand it, or there isn't one or its just " go do it and decide ( read and react) for yourself". but i think more dirction given to the players rather than the officials may be useful.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

"Instead, Joey plays small to try to matchup with Brisbane and refuses to change when DJ is exhausted, Patterson is scoring at will and Wiley is giving TeRangi wide open threes after we'd kept him quiet all game! "

absolutely spot on , particuarly since we didn't need to catch up at the start of the 4th Q, got to ask - who did start
that Q4 for the sixers ?

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Anon  
Earlier this year

I watched Deng score 8 point in 2 mins today saw him score 12 points in 3 mins in iMelb.But still only gets a few mins court time. Highest % scorer for mins on the court, Can't work it out. No one can score in the 4th and he is on the bench????

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

If Adelaide drop their game to lowly Perth I think they should hand in their NBL license.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Joey's coaching was baffling today. But his stubbornness to change what wasn't working was obvious. Go with what got you the lead. Make Brisbane react to you, rather than the other way around. But no, I know what I'm doing, everyone else is clueless. Okay Joey. Scoreboard pal.

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

agreed

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Agreed also. Joey and Gleeson both guilty of this.

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Beantown  
Earlier this year

I agree with everything you just said Very Old. I love our running game, but Joey has never got our guys to consistently recognise opponents weaknesses and exploit them in the half court. We lose so many games because the guys don't have an offensive plan.

Ushiro, I didn’t think Sobey did that much wrong in the early 4th quarter. They were good shots he often makes, he just had a stinker of a shooting night after he shot the lights out last game. So I’m not going to blame him for this one. His D has been pretty good the last two games too.

Brisbane didn’t get many good 3 point looks until the last quarter and that was more to do with everyone sagging off to try to stop Patterson attacking the basket and to help DJ on the boards. Hence why I’m pissed at Joey for leaving Froling on the bench most of the 4th!

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Beantown  
Earlier this year

Agree with Anon on Deng too. He deserved more time after his first half. Could've made a difference with his threes and energy. I certainly would have had him in ahead of Wiley!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Deng and Froling were terrific. Why have them sitting at a crucial time? Again, it's Joey thinking he's smarter than anyone else. I also question what his assistants are doing, or if he just ignores their input?

He's done a lot of great things for Adelaide has Joey. But there's a level of arrogance that exists (check out some of his Facebook posts for proof) that just rubs me the wrong way at times. And today the team paid for it.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Conger played 'well' today

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Deng suffered a cracked rib in the first half and Moore appears to have re-injured the same troublesome calf according to Joey's post game presser...

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Was Froling sitting in the fourth quarter addressed? Hopefully the press chewed him out for benching him.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Adelaide needed more Teys as well

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sixtiesrockstar  
Earlier this year

DJ's attitude was woeful today and got worse as game went on. Sure Bairstow fouls him constantly and just scrags him but DJ needs to suck it up and get the better of it instead of affecting his game. Should of been subbed off. He was spent and just getting more frustrated. Couldn't compete anymore and got out rebounded after missed foul shots, and then lost the plot mentally, while Froling sits on the bench. Could not work out why Froling wasn't subbed on in the 4th. Deng looked good when he was on for those couple of minutes and then sits for basically rest of game. Conger tried hard and did a good job, while Sobey was MIA offensively. Wiley is terrible defender. Gets lost switching and both him and Moore give their players too much room outside and can't close down outside shot.
At start of game refs were woeful. Hodgsen and Bairstow had tents pitched in the keyway. Missed travels and don't think they even picked up the 8 second violation until crowd and Joey picked them up on it.

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Udog  
Earlier this year

I think if I had a choice between DJ "sucking it up" or the refs calling a foul when he's actually fouled I'd rather the foul.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Earlier this year

I would rather they called the foul too. But the so called referees weren't calling them, can't make them blow the whistle, so he needs to be smarter and start sucking Bairstow in rather than Barstow getting DJ just where he wants him. Maybe today he was just completely spent and hit boiling point. It does amaze me how the refs continually don't recognise what certain players do every single game. Do they not talk about this sort of stuff?

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Conspiracy theory time: Joey is deliberately coaching badly so that he gets asked (or paid) to leave at the end of the season?

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Very Old  
Earlier this year

I think that both DJ and Sobey have stepped up considerably in terms of mental toughness in the last 3 seasons, difference is night vs day to me.

Joey failing to add tactical coaching ( situational/immediate focus on 1/2 court or mismatch or if/then/else structures) to the strategic focus ( overall we run, run and play hard switching D ) that he brought with him in the first season, indicates that his own development as a coach has stalled somewhat. JMHO

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Tom  
Earlier this year

Patterson9until foul out) plus Gliiddon, Te Rangi 3's too good down stretch. Sobey (and it is hard to see they have anyone up to it) is not the right man to handle /make decisions with the ball in prime time.

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NBLUFC  
Earlier this year

Deng got a cracked rib from some contact prior to hitting his second 3 from Vikona, hence why no minutes second half.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Earlier this year

That explains Deng then.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

such a poor comentary team.

There is a replay on Fox right now of the Lightning WNBL game played after Sixers today and John Casey is commentating. WTF.

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Beantown  
Earlier this year

"indicates that his own development as a coach has stalled somewhat."

I feel the same way. It's either that or he can’t get his players to play smarter. Either way, it’s a concern for those of us who are tired of waiting for another title.

Can someone remind me how many years Joey has left?

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