Sitiveni
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Are the Boomers the next best team after the US?

Well are they?

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's clearly still the holidays

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Anonymous  
Last year

Serbia and canada right up there too.

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Anonymous  
Last year

and Spain. and France

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Anonymous  
Last year

Spain and France are in decline.

Spain getting very old. Gasol is 38. His brother is turning 34.
France has gobert but not a stellar supporting cast. Lauvergne, batum, de colo, ntilkina. Good but not aus level.

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AngusH  
Last year

We have the talent to be, but I think we will always be susceptible to teams who are used to playing together. With so many guys in the NBA, reality is our core guys will spend a less time together on the court than a lot of other nations prior to the world cup/Olympics.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The big up and comer is Germany in both men and women.

Schroeder
Bonga
Theis
Kleber
Wagner
Hartenstein
Lots of guys in Europe and lots of young prospects.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last year

Canada has the second best talent, but never get everyone playing.

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Anonymous  
Last year

They are gonna kill it in Tokyo 2020

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah Canada could knock off usa in 2020.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I mean let's not get too carried away but if they are rolling and they catch USA on a bad night I guess they could yeah

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Anonymous  
Last year

Someone's suffering from heatstroke!!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Spain still a powerhouse:

Abrines
Calderon
Gasol
Gasol
Hernangomez
Hernangomez
Ibaka
Mirotic
Rubio

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Anonymous  
Last year

France:

Ajinca
Batum
Fournier
Luwawu-Cabbarot
Mahinmi
Noah
Ntilkina
Okobo
Parker
Yabusele

A good starting five for Serbia too:

Bjelica
Bogdanovic
Jokic
Marjanovic
Teodosic

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Anonymous  
Last year

Canada

Murray/Pangos/Joseph
Barret/Stauskas/Gilgeous-Alexander
Wiggins/Jackson/Brooks
Powell/Lyles/Wiltjer
Olynyk/Thompson/Boucher

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Anonymous  
Last year

Greece

Calathes/Mantzaris/Sloukas
Dorsey/Larentzakis/T.Antetokoumpo
G.Antetokoumpo/Papanikolau/Papapetrou
Printezis/K.Antetokoumpo/Mitoglou
Bourousis/Koufous/Papagiannis

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Anonymous  
Last year

"The big up and comer is Germany in both men and women.

Schroeder
Bonga
Theis
Kleber
Wagner
Hartenstein"""

lets be real this team aint gonna do shit LOL

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Anonymous  
Last year

Germany topped the group with 9-1 record

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Curtley  
Last year

Thank god Yugoslavia divided into 8 (or maybe more) countries (wars, destruction and death aside obviously). They'd be easily second best right now if all those states played together.

Also amazing to think it wasnt that long ago that Lithuania was part of the USSR and USSR's best players were Lithuanian for a long time when they have a tiny population.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is team USA's second (and potentially third) best lineup available still better than the second best international team? Im going second yes and third probably.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Last time we played the USA, we lost by?

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Anonymous  
Last year

We lost by 10 but that was the BS Boomers. Before Simmons.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last year

USA 3rd team would be comparable to the other good teams, but not a guaranteed medal. USA 2nd team would get silver.

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Anonymous  
Last year

And the us team would be?

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Anonymous  
Last year

aussie team in 2020

Simmons
mills
ingles
Bolden
baynes

Exum
delly
adel
broekoff
thon maker
Mathiang
bogut


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Anonymous  
Last year

Positions

Simmons 1/4
Mills 2/1
Ingles 3/2
Bolden 4/5
Baynes 5/4

Exum 1/2
NBL guard (Sobey, Mccarron, Gliddon Goulding etc) 2/1
Broekhoff 3/2
Maker 4/5
Bogut 5

Dellavedova 1/2
Adel 3/2


Baynes/Bogut primary centres. Maker or Bolden can fill in at centre also.
No need for a Landale, Mathiang or Humphries, only when bogut retires.
Our issue is the guard position, could be one of several nbl players. Sobey, mccarron, gliddon, Goulding etc

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Anonymous  
Last year

Forgot creek.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Goulding sucks!

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Hogwash  
Last year

No they are not.

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

"Baynes/Bogut primary centres. Maker or Bolden can fill in at centre also"

Boomers won't be able to rely on Bogut for more that bball smarts, leadership and minor minutes in tournament play. Barnes primary centre. Need another primary centre who can also play pf. Bolden could play centre in a small ball lineup. Maybe Maker is the answer, but I’d pick 1 more specialist centre who can also play pf.

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MACDUB  
Last year

It's too hard to answer given teams don't play against each-other often enough (and not at full strength).

The only real games that Australia play are those within their FIBA zone; and friendlies against European teams/South American teams are basically out of the question (we'd only play them at the WC or Olympics really).

What I would say is that teams ranked 2 - 12 (roughly) could probably beat each other on any given day.

Too hard to say Australia are #2 definitively.

But I would certainly have them in that Tier B without a doubt. i.e.
Tier A = USA (on their own)
Tier B = Seriba, Slovenia, Spain, France, Australia and a few others
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Phil  
Last year

As for the poster talking about USA 3rd stringers being favourites I disagree

Most of the best nba talls are from outside USA

Their first string team probably includes Davis Jordan cousins


2nd string Aldridge Drummond and millsap

3rd string?

Monroe lol?

I might be missing some names but their 3rd string talls would be smashed in international competition

USAs depth is in wing and ph positions

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Phil  
Last year

Pg not ph

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Phil  
Last year

Ah just remember towns griffin green and Myles turner some USA bigs I forgot

Still that 3rd string ain't walking over the second best team as per posters claim.

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Phil  
Last year

Looking at our lineup the biggest concern is we have lots of excellent players and lots who can stuff the stat sheet but we don't have a scoring tyro

The closest is mills who can gets buckets at Int level but I would love to have a real 25ppg scorer on that team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

A stab a 3 US teams:

1st
Curry
Harden
Lebron
Durant
Davis
Westbrook
Thompson
Kawhi
George
Cousins
Oladipo
Griffin

2nd
Kyrie
Lillard
Beal
Draymond Green
Horford
Booker
Paul
DeRozan
Aldridge
Drummond
Walker
Covington

3rd
Lowry
McCollum
Zion Williamson
Millsap
Whiteside
Wall
Mitchell
Butler
Middleton
Myles Turner
Brook Lopez
Bledsoe

There is a lot of PG depth in the American ranks (Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday miss out) but with the way the game has evolved, high IQ Euro bigs are much more effective than they used to be and the US suffers badly in the front court as you move away from their best lineup. Not hard to see someone like Jaren Jackson Jr in that third squad sooner rather than later. And yes I'd have Zion there today.

That third team has enough talent to compete with anyone internationally, but how good they are would depend on chemistry and buy-in. I don't think they'd go into Worlds or Olympics as the gold medal favourites. But I don't think there's a single player on that US 3rd team who wouldn't make the Boomers A team.

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anonymous  
Last year

I would think that at least winning a medal at some kind of world event would be the first step to claiming to be second best in world...

By 2020 guys like Bogut, Delly won't be up to it on world stage.

Some young guys coming up like Froling, Statman etc

Not sure the style that Boomers run is correct tho. We always seem to just get past the smaller nations in qualifying rounds and then get found out against the more powerful teams.

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's 2019 already. Delly will be 29 in 2020, not exactly turning 34 and really starting to slow down. He'll be two years younger in 2020 than Joe Ingles is now. I find the notion that Delly is done absolutely crazy. He would destroy Stattmann, who can't even get on the court in college.

Stattmann, Josh Green, both Frolings, Grida, McDowell-White, Deng Adel, yes there's a ton of young guys coming through but this board is relentlessly premature in selecting them to hypothetical Boomers teams.

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Anonymous  
Last year

#527
Don't try and bring sense into this board, that’s not how it works. You are 100% correct though.

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Anonymous  
Last year

future boomers? (95'-00' born)
Pg 96' Ben Simmons 6'10 / 95' Dante Exum 6'6 / 98' William McDowell White 6'5
Sg 00' Josh Green 6'6 / 98' Daniel Grida 6'6
Sf 96' Deng Adel 6'7 / 97' Jack White 6'7
Pf 97' Thon Maker 7'1 / 96' Jonah Bolden 6'10 / 95' Xavier Cooks 6'8
C 95' Jock Landale 6'11 / 98' Isaac Humphries 7'0

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Anonymous  
Last year

"yes there's a ton of young guys coming through but this board is relentlessly premature in selecting them to hypothetical Boomers teams."

so true.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I wouldn't have thought so. No... absolutely not

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Anonymous  
Last year

Froling is twice the player Humphriies is, Humphries so overrated on the board.

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