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36ers new training home

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5 August 2019

The Adelaide 36ers' squad will assemble for the first time today to launch the 2019-20 pre-season at their new training home, the Port Adelaide Recreation Centre.

The move comes thanks to a partnership with Basketball South Australia (BSA) that is set to strengthen the club’s connection to grassroots basketball.

One initiative in planning that is sure to excite young fans is the introduction of an ambassador program that will align each 36ers player with a Premier League club. The club’s ambassador will attend club events, presentations, games and assist at trainings.

As part of a collaborative agreement, Basketball SA’s affiliate members including District Clubs, SA Country and SA Church will enjoy discounted tickets to 36ers’ home games.

Sixers’ CEO Ben Kavenagh said the partnership allows the club to build greater engagement with the basketball community.

"The community is at the heart of what we do and we are excited to work with Basketball South Australia to strengthen the relationship between grassroots and the elite," he said.

Basketball SA’s CEO Phil Sinnott is thrilled to work with the 36ers and provide a rejuvenated venue for their training.

“We are also looking forward to working with the Adelaide 36ers to promote basketball in this state, as well as connecting our juniors with their basketball idols on the courts of Adelaide.

“We’ve been really fortunate with the support of State Government, the City of Port Adelaide Enfield and the West Adelaide Basketball Club, to enhance the facilities available at Port Adelaide to include new score tables, and improved amenities, in addition to the installation of three new basketball floors,” he said.

Kavenagh said the club was spoilt for choice when selecting from BSA’s premium stadium facilities.

“We are extremely impressed with the high-quality stadium facilities Basketball SA manages.

“After thorough inspections, Joey and the team have chosen to train predominately at Port Adelaide, thanks to the exceptional court surface upgrade.

“We will also use BSA’s facilities at Wayville and Marion sporadically throughout the season,” he said.

Amidst the move to the new training venue, Kavenagh acknowledged the support from Titanium Security Arena during the last 27 years.

“I would like to thank Titanium Security Arena for being our training home for almost three decades. While we had every intention to continue to train and be administered from our former home venue, unfortunately due to a clash with Adelaide Lightning’s training times it is no longer possible.

“We recognise that Adelaide Lightning is Titanium Security Arena’s number one priority and we completely understand the reasoning behind giving them precedent over the training schedule,” Kavenagh said.

Later this month the 36ers will move their administration to an office on Port Road next door to their new home, the Adelaide Entertainment Centre.

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Aussie  
Last month

Sounds good with the junior push.

No complaints from me

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Anonymous  
Last month

Like the spin of high quality stadium facilities. Haven't been in the changerooms and showers at Port Adelaide for a while but I the Romans had better facilities. And to even mention Marion in same article is going a bit far.
Wonder what will happen during summer heat waves, train pre dawn? Or will BSA finally try to summer proof some stadiums.
Would have thought Wayville would have been top choice and get air conditioning finally.
And these ambassadors, be interesting how the split will be, short straw will be trekking to the farther clubs. But good initiative for a change.

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KET  
Last month

Wayville and Pasadena most ideal I'd have thought

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BB4  
Last month

Pasadena is a school so not ideal timing and Wayville not available for around the show not ideal, new courts at Port Adelaide make it a good proposition with most players living in western suburbs helping too

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Anonymous  
Last month

Only one court at port adelaide is the right size

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Anon  
Last month

Plus no one else using courts so fills in time.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sounds like they're scrambling just to find a place to train. Sure there are excellent new stadiums around, just not bsa run. At least the port and Marion have new flooring but still way off being ideal venues to train as a professional team. Again, what happens during extreme heat? Training called off? Occ health and safety otherwise. Looks like they're trying to polish a turd. Imagine new players showing up to Marion, they'll be WTF.

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Anon  
Last month

Have seen Joey with players at St Clair quite often. Surprised it wasn't picked, though it isn’t BSA run.

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joshuapending  
Last month

Why not just train at the given time and available at the powerhouse. The women should get preferential treatment if they are full time there. Either train in the afternoon or night. Now they appear to be in a low class venue.

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Anon  
Last month

Bad run stadiums are the key factor here. ARC be ideal with gym facities and pool for rehab. Marion please no way. That cant be true.

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Anon  
Last month

likefor like training venues. EC great but not in best interest od basketball. Come to Adelaide world class training venues. Marion. Please. Port omg. premier leagues teams havebetter access. Not happpy not at all and lighning omg.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

It was getting a bit of a rub on Channel 9 for being primitive and run down. Weeds in the gutters etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Step 1, dump the TSA.

Step 2, move into Pt Adelaide and Marion.

Step 3, cease to trade.

Dickhead coach,
2nd class roster,
Failing administration.

Not much of a future.

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Anon  
Last month

Agree hard to be really positive despite bsa spin. Be great for news reporters to take public on tour of the great facilities at Marion and the port. Our elite team in facilities that every school and college has better access to. Not good enough. Sixers deserve far better. Far better. Why has itcometo this.

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Isaac  
Last month

Quite the spin in that release before you get to the Lightning bit.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Is it simply more cost cutting from this management? Move away from a purpose built stadium with all the required amenities to move to West which has one full size court and changeroom facilities that were last upgraded in the 70's.

If you were going to move the ARC or St Clare’s make much more sense from a basketball point of view, or the Lights will be ready before they neee to move out of Titanium.

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Anonymous  
Last month

They are there because it would be free! Only reason they'll claim grass root support was to get the gym for free.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can Adelaide people clarify a couple of things
- were every game at Titanium sold out?
- if not why not? access? poor facilities?
- does Titanium have a gym and pool etc that people are saying Port doesn't have?
- moving to a venue in the city, does that make getting to the venue easier? eg. Adelaide oval seems well attended for football
- assume everyone that is complaining about cost cutting has a membership or a corporate box or financially giving to the club?

SEM train at the state basketball centre in Melbourne and that doesn't have a gym, a pool etc for off court stuff. Not sure on the locker rooms etc, haven't seen them.

Building a purpose built training headquarters is expensive (especially if it is like the one the Celtics just built) so maybe you have to go with what the government has built?

sorry, just trying to understand the Adelaide environment and the 6ers set-up.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Here's the explanation:

They have a purpose built basketball stadium which they can use for training. It has gym facilities nearby.

Management moves the team to a more expensive venue for game nights. Access will be better for some, but sightlines and game night experience will take a massive hit.

Team no longer has access to previous training facilities, so moves to a stadium with one full sized court, and no air conditioning and no other facilities a pro team requires. I've not seen a facility in Melbourne as shit as the stadiums 36ers are moving their training to.

Team then spins this as some big improvement.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's all part of the Sixers mantra, them against us, look we are the poor cousins let’s beat everyone else up. It might work.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

Talking to (now) former players, they were generally impressed with the stadium and the setup and how everything was in one spot at the Sixers. One told me how at one club they never got to practice on the game court, they would use several different courts, gym in another area, support staff in another site, etc etc

The Port Adelaide site is a BSA site so quite possibly some deal there for cheap hire (?)

Games at the Arena were well attended and the move to the Entertainment Centre will see an initial surge of whinging (hey, change is change), but long term a larger stadium should see the Sixers better off.

While probably not ideal, rotating training venues so the team has at least one training in the stadium of a district club strengthens the ties to the grass roots.

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Camel 31  
Last month

Ninenews ran the story, but the players weren't allowed to talk.
Al Green 'They couldda found a better place' He told ninenews.

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alexkrad  
Last month

Yikes that place looks like it should be knocked down, surely you have a better basketball court around Adelaide?

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Annonn  
Last month

Benefits of port adelaide.
1. FREE
2. Court 1 - floors better than st clair.
3. Rings/backboards on crt 1 and 2 - nicer than st clair.
4. Parking


Toilets - Poor
Showers - Poor



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Anonymous  
Last month

Giving the Lightning precedent? What a load of bullshit. It's never stopped the Sixers before. This is the biggest load of crap ever put out by the club. Straight out lies. Unbelievable.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Marion being mentioned lol. Just give them the keys to Hillcrest when North leave.

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Anonymous  
Last month

These stadiums are district stadiums yes they require investment but they do their job. To move a professional team into these is ridiculous.

They would be better served forming a partnership with Immanuel or similar and actually have modern professional facilities. Either that or work out the differences with Titanium and make it work.

Amateur hour again.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Re the person who said the courts are better at Port Adelaide than St Clair - the St Clair floors are FIBA certified engineered wood Haro system which is much more similar to a lot of the floors professionals play on nowdays than the old school traditional wood sprung style at Port Adelaide.

While many (including me) prefer the old traditional wood setups in no way is Port Adelaide closer to modern professional surface than St Clair.

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Brunson  
Last month

"They would be better served forming a partnership with Immanuel"

Suggesting Immanuel is amateur hour also. It is a school. The school built the gym so that they can use it.

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Pop  
Last month

As elsewhere, I await the 'story behind the story'.

Given the situation as it stands the 36ERS team and support staff have no option but to make the best they can of the hand they have been dealt, though I too wonder about some of the announced decisions re training venues, and their coms people have to present what they are faced with in the best possible light.

However, while the situation no doubt won't change at this late stage, I believe the 'real' story is why they left a purpose-built facility [which they almost never filled with spectators] that also housed their admin and most support facilities, for a 'shared' facility] which means they will have to compete for space/time [read scheduling problems], that is no more than a couple of kilometres closer to the city & essentially next door to the soccer stadium [read traffic congestion and parking issues], with worse vehicle access and no better, possibly worse, access to parking.

And now they are going to be hiring office space down port road and have their players driving all aver the metro area for training.

What's done is done and seemingly can't [or won't] be undone - certainly not this season - but it would be good to know what led to all this, purely as an aid to understanding and coming to terms with what presents as an unholy mess.


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Anonymous  
Last month

What floors do they play on at other NBL stadiums, don't look like Haro but I could be mistaken.

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Zodiac  
Last month

What's done is done and seemingly can't [or won't] be undone - certainly not this season - but it would be good to know what led to all this, purely as an aid to understanding and coming to terms with what presents as an unholy mess.


I don't know if it's true or not but a few people said on here The Sixers owner is dating a government politician and as the AEC is govt owned unlike TSA the inference was she probably did the Sixers a good deal so likely cheaper to play there.

Even though the Sixers said they were still going to train and have their admin based at TSA including a pre-season game played there each year by the looks of things the TSA owners may have increased the Sixers rental costs so they're going to off to train at Port Adelaide instead.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Immanual facilitates are better than any the district clubs can offer. Yes the school built it but being a sport focused school may consider a joint venture. Has gym, courts and pool facilities , far from a amateur hour.

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Brunson  
Last month

Using Immanuel is a stupid idea because

1. It will cost more than other stadiums which is the whole point of going to cheap Port Adelaide.

2. You're missing the point. Schools/parents want their facilities available. Do parents get a reduction of fees for having the gym only available 50% of the time? What about if they want to use the gym for assembly? Just bad luck, go have it on the oval.

3. It would not be a good environment for children. Watching training with men swearing and at times fighting. Using change rooms with showering men. Do teachers need to monitor when a child needs to use the toilet/Change room? Having 20+ cars driving up and down the road. Do the 20+ adults need to have police clearance/working with children check?

Amateur hour!

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Greggo  
Last month

Thanks for the lolz Brunson.

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Camel 31  
Last month

Here, at Beverley, they trained 10am-1pm, most of the time.

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Camel 31  
Last month

Drimic "We're not allowed to talk about it, maybe tomorrow." He told ninenews at Port Adelaide, yesterday.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Where do other clubs trai ? Hawks train out the snake pit, hardly luxurious, good enough for Ball, get a grip Adelaide supporters you are soft lot.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Where will lockers, ice bath, equipment, etc be kept. In the West changerooms?

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Zodiac  
Last month

Hawks train out the snake pit, hardly luxurious, good enough for Ball, get a grip Adelaide supporters you are soft lot.


Things could've changed since but I used to play at Port Adelaide/St. Ives Rec Centre in the early 90's and it was a hole. If I were a pro I would be insulted to train there.

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Anon  
Last month

Port rec centre is still a wreck centre. Embarrassing and insulting. Perfect for district and premier league but seriously for fully professionally players... and to include Marion as alternate f... me. That only helps make the port half decent. The sugarcoated turd is still a turd. BSA the sixers deserve better.get them I to st Clair at least. The guys are always there so obviously they happy with. It's modern it's clean its got decent facilities to have a crap in some comfortable. Goodluckat the port in that midget sized shithouse. Head injury coming your way.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thumbs down. Last game there it rained on the court and they spent all game wiping it up. This is a joke to say the least. Anyone that is in the know with basketball knows this is just a crap move.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The Bearcats/Panthers/Tigers stadiums should be visited by a wrecking ball,then rebuilt.How embarresing for the 36ers to train in such a dump,it smells like aged arse for god sakes.

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Anon  
Last month

Will the players need to become members of the EFM gym to use gym equipment. Professional club moving into amateur clubs facilities. This after jacking up season ticket prices.

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Anonymous  
Last month

St. Clair's floor is too hard. And noooo I don't give a shit if it's FIBA regulation blah, blah, blah. It's too hard and to train on that every day is asking for trouble.
Marion and Port Adelaide have new, properly sprung floors, and whilst the amenities to go with it aren't great, the court surface is A1 to train on.

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Hanging Round  
Last month

It could be just like one of Rocky movies when he had to fight Drago.
Instead of the luxury in AC gym etc, Rocky went off to Siberia and had to struggle without the home comforts. It worked for Rocky!

I seem to recall that Port stadium is not the only one to leak after recent heavy downpours.
The new courts at Port Adelaide are still a massive improvement and things look better than a few years ago.
I'm sure that Bearcats would love a new stadium but BSA pushed hard to be included in discussion/involvement re St Clair and replacing Hillcrest, so guess who missed out? Port / Enfield Council put all money behind replacing Hillcrest and now the cupboard is bare.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The cupboard should not have to be bare,Lightsview went from projected 10million budget to 30 million as reported by the Advertiser.The difference in costing could have at least spruced up port Adelaide stadium,facilities,for example knock down the whole entry & rebuild it,air con & so on.

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Anonymous  
Last month

18million not 10 above, sorry.

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Anon  
Last month

Knock down from front entrance and don't stop until.all 4 walls gone. BSA please see some sense and get the sixers the facilities they deserve. Want the best performance don't we.

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Anonymous  
Last month

As mentioned infinitum for years, why don't they just air condition wayville, surely not too much. And when the show starts then they can train elsewhere for a few weeks. Surely when we get a string of 40 plus degree days it's a major safety issue training at Port Adelaide and can't see them cancelling, probably will go to one of Air conditioned stadiums.
At least they can practice corner 3s on court 2 now instead of stepping out of bounds.
Don't know too much about facilities in the back of house at enter centre, wonder what changerooms will be like or will it be exactly like visiting teams. One of those 1%ers, player comfort. Nice to have your own locker instead of lugging all your gear every game. Can't see the port having a comfortable room for gear and stuff.
And not sure if it's me but are the toilets there the smelliest in South Australia? Doesn't have to have to be made of Italian marble but maybe chuck a few glade air fresheners in there and some new paint.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adelaide isn't the only place that gets very hot and other than Perth I can’t think who else trains in air conditioning.

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Anon  
Last month

It's the point of going from purpose build basketball stadium to last century heritage shed.
But people complained about the TSA and everything about it. - so only got those miners to blame. Get back to TSA home of the sixers.get out of the home of the bearcats.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Cairns training court is a fully air-conditioned court. They use Court 3 instead of the show court at Cairns Basketball Stadium due to the air con

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Anonymous  
Last month

Do the Wildcats train in aircon? It's always been hot as balls in Bendat every time I’ve been there.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Half the premier league teams train in air conditioning, just not our professional team.
How do you know where all the nbl teams train?

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Anonymous  
Last month

BSA have no responsibilitie to provide a private enterprise with "the facilities they deserve" Anon #473. It's up to the owner to do that!

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anon  
Last month

yet BSA are taking credit for the 'partnership'

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OMG  
Last month

The sixers might as well throw in the towel now
Send the Pioneers into the NBL instead
They are probably more financial

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Zodiac  
Last month

Boti not happy about the 36ers turning their back on Titanium Security Arena.

When the relocation first was mooted, the 36ers planned to retain Titanium Security Arena as their training venue, which made perfect sense.

But by moving game nights out of The Arena, they left Adelaide Lightning remaining as the venue's major tenant and, therefore, the WNBL Grand Finalist had priority in selecting training times.

They chose 10am-midday, which also is the 36ers' preferred training time. But here's the rub.

Lightning do not even start their preseason schedule at The Arena until Monday, September 2, so that was virtually a month the 36ers could have stayed in their preferred timeslot and environment.

And The Arena management did offer the 36ers a permanent 1pm-3pm booking going forward. Having checked in with Jacob Holmes, CEO of the Australian Basketballers Association, he confirmed there was no player union-based impediment to teams training in the afternoon instead of the morning.


Well no, clearly it wasn't because the 36ers could be training at TSA in their preferred timeslot until September 2, and then continuing on there for the rest of the season from 1-3pm.

Yesterday, management wasn't talking and even gagged its players from speaking to the media.

Yes, another very smart move at a time when shifting games to AEC means you need to be building your fan base, not alienating a media which can help you achieve just that!

Honestly, the future for basketball looks truly bleak.


http://www.botinagy.com/blog/the-fall-and-fall-of-sa-basketball/

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Anon  
Last month

Not much confidence from boti about the move. Very strange decision.

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