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Earlier this year

Game 1 - Boomers vs USA

No real game thread on here it seems.

USA lead 22-20 at Qtr time

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Shaky start by both teams.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kuzma can shoot!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cracking first quarter, I like it.

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Aussiepride  
Earlier this year

Goulding looking comfortable at this level!

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Kai  
Earlier this year

The camera angle is shithouse...

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Scout  
Earlier this year

No Goulding is rubbish at this level, missed shot, turnover then makes a shot means minus 1

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Kai  
Earlier this year

what a bad angle for the fans...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Getting ugly very quickly all of a sudden

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kay so slow at this level.

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Hroz  
Earlier this year

Yup

I'm not a fan of the two C's in the court. Getting run off the court atm.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Dam u bolden and Simmons,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You can hate on Goulding but he's been great , we’ve been crap with out him on the court.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

righto

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Aussiepride  
Earlier this year

Thanks Chris!

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

boomers play with 8, 9 men rotation because the bench sucks

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

44-43 at H/T

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Yeah, more good than bad from Goulding so far. Hate to say it, but this team needs his spark plug scoring.

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Have to agree Angus, dislike the bloke but he is needed

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Boomers are looking real good! Promote lemanis!!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If only Bolden hung around, he'd have Kay’s minutes and we’d be cooking

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kay should be swapped for someone else.
Gliddon and Sobey no minutes.

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MACDUB  
Earlier this year

Pretty awful looking Team USA geez (too many good players in that team for them not to play better).

How good is Landale!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No bolden, Simmons Maker or cooks. All potential pfs out is going to hurt us,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great half, great spectacle, LK should be very happy.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

Goulding is +13 at the half, so fair to say the team has been playing well when he's on the court.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

boomers live 3.85 worth a try?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Adel defence would of helped but here we are with Gliddon and his mo warming some seats

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Please please please don't play Nick Kay. Smh

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who would be best to replace Kay?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Adel and defence don't go in the same sentence, Kay I’m not a fan off personally but he did fine. People on here got take the hate glasses off and watch what actually on the court.

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KET  
Earlier this year

https://m.twitch.tv/nba

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Boomers a lock for a medal

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Getting fugly again.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not Nick Kay again. Farrrrrrk
Creek offers way more

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Kay being on court isn't so painful when you remind yourself how angry that Adel loving dude who is over all of the NBL selections. :)

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

"Getting fugly again."

It's actually getting worse now.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

Nick kay sucks

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nick kay, somehow almost rhymes with N B A

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nick Kay being on court is embarrassing mate, I'm sorry, but he’s not even close. Offers literally zero at this level.

Great NBL player

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Nick "400" Kay
en-bee-aye

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Boldens smiling.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Kryptonite is green, maybe the jersey has the same effect on Kay?

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Aussiepride  
Earlier this year

Nick Kay had a great training camp!

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

Nick Kay can't even do an open layup

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Don't get me wrong - Kay shouldn't be here and should've been banned after that infamous performance against Japan.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why is Kay on !!! Why isn't Landale playing???

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I just had a Kareem flashback LLOOOOOOOLLLL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That training camp must have been spectacular

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Kay shot that hookshot like all those dudes who don't play, shooting around before a social comp game.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

seriously, what is the bloody point of playing Nick Kay ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

3 day training camp of the century

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

We're down 15.
Let's put Kay on

Mmmkay... Lemanis has jumped the shark.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sorry Dave, what was that about Kay?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Barlow getting his minutes it looks like.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

This is so embarrassing. Literally, Creeky would play his spot so much better, and is a much better defender, and......well better all round. Lamanis must not listen to his assistant coaches.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

Have said it many many times, some of these nbl guys should never ever play for the boomers in big tournament. Creek and goulding have done very well

We might have used guys like green and makur maker and they would offer the team more.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

This is the Nick kay who played more minutes than jonah bolden in the series against canada, Jesus.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The USA team is running away with it now...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Really poor defense by us. Young vs old showing.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Lemanis yet again is toying with his opponents in order not to show his hand in anything. Master coach!

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

lemanis is paying the price for picking Kay, sobey, gliddon, they offer nothing to the team. Imagine we have guys like Green, Makur Maker and Bolden instead !

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

In fairness, he did pick Bolden.

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Aussiepride  
Earlier this year

Greeh and Makur are not ready. You don't get it do you? Bolden ruled himself out.

Dream on!

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

Aussie pride, don't give me the " too young " cray. Most players of this usa team are around 22,23

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

This performance and Lemanis' coaching doesn't seem so bad when reading Makur Maker's repetitiveness.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

Aussie pride, don't give me the " too young " crap . Most players of this usa team are around 22,23

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Aussiepride  
Earlier this year

Yes and they are playing at a high level in the NBA. What your next best argument?

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

He did pick Bolden but treated him like an idiot

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Unpopular opinion  
Earlier this year

The game shows the core problem of australian mens basketball.

We have no scorers other than Mills, everyone else is a background player where a 12 point game is often a career high. It works in afl and nrl where the sum of the parts generally wins you the game rather than an individuals brillance.

We grow solid boring players, the days of gaze and heal pure scorers (and terrible defenders lol) is long gone. I dont hate goulding but he is a poor mans james harvey who himself was a poor mans gaze

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2022 and beyond is our time,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Even Drewy is openly questioning Kay now.

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Makur Maker  
Earlier this year

2022 and beyond will be miserable if lemanis stays as boomers coach

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sobey and Kay looked out there depth, Sobey defence was woeful and Kay not athletic enough at his height. Mills and Inglis got shoot better at WC for us to well.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

I dont hate goulding but he is a poor mans james harvey who himself was a poor mans gaze

Oh wow. Nailed it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I thought this would be our year, but we've struggled with a USA C-team and a Canadian B-Team.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

Dave/Makur, this is for you:

5 NBAers were -75 in 124 minutes (-24/40min)

5 NBLers were +5 in 53 minutes (+4/40min)

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

I've only read comments regarding Kays's first two games vs Canada, but he really wasn't up to it tonight. He must have had one hell of a training camp, because this just seems beyond him. Hope I'm wrong.

I stand by playing Creek at the 4 (which Lemanis did tonight) and bringing in Adel instead of Barlow, and making Kay your 5th big - essentially insurance.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Makur Maker sorry I only respect Dave's opinion

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Don't forget the rarely seen Todd!

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rjd  
Earlier this year

I'd also like to see Creek at the 4 over Kay against teams like USA and Canada that are going with a lot of bigs shooting 3s.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Feel a bit bad for Kay, this is turning into a bit of Kay witchhunt

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Spectator  
Earlier this year

We need a better system of defending the pick and roll. Leaving the best players in the world wide open for mid-range jumpshots will not get us out of the pool stage at Worlds.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

What was the atmosphere like in the stadium? I think I could hear the disappointment on the TV coverage.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Heal commented that he didn't necessarily think Kay fit the team at all.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pretty flat. Would have been better if the Boomers had kept it competitive but after halftime it was dull.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/AUSO/1313246/

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Atmosphere at the game was very quiet/subdued during gameplay.

I was sitting at the bottom of the first tiered seating and couldn't hear the ball being bounced, ref whistles, all that stuff we’re used to hearing at regular smaller venues. It took away from the atmosphere a great deal I thought. Not a whiner but it would’ve been nice if the court had been mic’d up and the sound piped through the stadium as per a few NBA/NCAA venues.

On another subject, fkn glad I didn’t purchase ground level seating. Does anyone know why the court was raised as such? There would have to be a legit reason right.

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PyroCross  
Earlier this year

Just returned from being at G1.

Aesthetics were unreal for a basketball game. Sound was crisp, lighting was on point and I'm going to remember the 'flash-phone' scene they pulled out in the second half. Some of the pro photos coming from the game capture the scene nicely.

MC's were annoying when they were on, but were quiet during the game, which was nice to see. The only trouble was the atmosphere - crowd was hard to mobilise, especially the ground-level fans weren't contributing to much. There were rumours of 'Aussie, Aussie, Aussie', 'Let's Go Boomers' and 'Defence' but they were small pockets that I doubt the players heard on-court. May have needed some MC encouragement early to get that going.

Lemanis' depth was exposed for this game. Missed Crooks, Motum and Bolden at the forward spots. Sure, you'll be able to play Sobey, Gliddon and Kay for some games but the USA is not the team to do so (maybe you can get away with shorting your rotation in the elims). At least Creek isn't overawed against NBA guys. Kay looked out of place - I have to wonder whether they give Bogut/Baynes a go on Saturday.

Atmosphere was what you expect from a c

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C  
Earlier this year

Almost but... Sad.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

To all those who have been preaching on here that Goulding should not be part of this team, is not up to it, and Creek should be there ahead of him, tonight you should be having a good hard long look at yourselves, because he showed why he is there. This is why he was picked, and he did his country proud.

The issue with this team is always going to be depth, especially when more and more withdrew, both through injury, through 'personal reasons', and through Rich Paul. Our lower half simply are not up to it, meaning we have to rely on our older legs of Delly, Mills, Ingles, Baynes and even Bogut more than we really should. Great to see Goulding step up and be part of the core. Unfortunately while they are solid for their talent levels, the likes of Kay, Glitton and Creek just are not international level and are out of their depth. This will hurt us as the tournament goes on.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ingles -23
Impressive from Joe, 23 under par..is it the same as golf?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As a young man growing up I dreamed of being able to watch a national game between Australia and America. Tonight my dream became a nightmare, luckily I guessed that the superstars wouldn't come out so I didn't go to the event live. But even watching it on tv,I had to change the channel repeatedly to see what else was on and go on Facebook etc because the crap churned out tonight was unbelievable. Most of the above complaints I totally agree with, a joke of a selected team with about as much excitement as a div 3 under 14 game. I wish I had not even paid for the electricity to watch even a part of it let alone going to it live. Can't even use the excuse of flooding youngsters to prepare for Olympics.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

I thought it looked awesome on TV.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

I wasn't a huge fan of the camera angle, to be honest. Too low and the distance meant it was completely side-on at both ends - like that awful setup they had in Melbourne for the 2007 grand final with a camera on each free-throw line. Got used to it eventually, but it was a bit of an adjustment.

Weird that the US was listed first on the scoreboard and had their branding all over everything.

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Just another poster  
Earlier this year

Some positives- Pretty good first half, made a couple of runs, offense seemed a little more fluid. Goulding was great, I was concerned where on their bench they were going to find any double digit scoring, he could be that man. He looks to have secured that 6 man spot.

Negatives- Kay, Gliddon and quite possibly Barlow are all pretty much unplayable apart from blowouts. Considering how deep Lemanis likes to go into his bench this is seriously concerning. Post game looks like it needs a lot of work, they are still way too reliant on the 3 ball.

By the way serious question - does anyone know why they selected their final team after camp. Most teams are only just making that decision now, US sometime next week, wouldn't it have made more sense to be making decisions after some actual games rather than just a few days of camp.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Any word on TV ratings?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"The game shows the core problem of australian mens basketball.
We have no scorers other than Mills"

TFG you are a spectator and not a coach.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Barlow unplayable?
Lol, he hasn't even stepped on the court yet. Maybe wait until we see him on Saturday first.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Dear Canada, Senegal and Lithuania
Please know we will persist with sagging when defending the high ball screens. Have as many open, short range jumpers as you like. We will not step up to contest the shot. Even if you are an nba all star.
Love
Boomers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2022 and beyond is our time,



Now was going to be our time 4 years ago
I just hope the boomers can bring in the younger NBA players as well as the older generation. #maketheboomersgrateagain

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Baller#3  
Earlier this year

Australia does churn out some great role players but I agree on this team its pretty much Mills and Goulding as our only players who have that full scorers mentality.

I think the trouble with Ingles at the moment is that he has to play such a different role as probably our best all round player in the team compared to him being the 3rd or 4th option in the NBA. I think come the tournament he will be fine though.

Would have much rathered Motum for Kay as he has experience at least. As for Gliddon and Sobey who else really is there at this point with everyone else out.

I think we have to just scrape through to the Olympics and fire Lemanis after this tourney.

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Cram  
Earlier this year

Motum would have been really useful. He was getting rotation minutes in a stronger team in Rio and has had a great 3 seasons of club ball since then. Him not being in the team is farcical.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Serious question when does Lemanis' contract expire?

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LV  
Earlier this year

Atmosphere in the venue was lacking, but that was expected.

What was disappointing was the game night "entertainment" and the overall presentation, including the constant noise in between breaks, the overbearing MC's, and zero attempt to get the crowd involved during the actual play. It all missed the mark for me, I’m sorry to say.

With the media focusing on the seating issues, it makes me wonder whether they would’ve been better hosting this at Rod Laver Arena. Or even AAMI Park- where some of the same issues would’ve occurred but to a much lesser degree.

This whole thing feels like a terrible missed opportunity- and whilst there were factors outside the control of the promoters, some things could’ve been done better.

In the actual game Australia played reasonably well, except for the pick and roll D where Team USA picked them apart from midrange. Bogut and Baynes are scared of showing too hard at the ball, lest they be blown by. But regardless, they should’ve been more aggressive.

This team lacks scoring fire power, and they lack anyone with athleticism who can attack the hoop. This makes the absences of Simmons and Bolden very noticeable. Motum should’ve been in ahead of Kay.

Good to see Goulding has found a role as a spark plug off the bench- he’s well suited to that and the team needs him to keep doing it.

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LV  
Earlier this year

[It all missed the mark for me, I'm sorry to say]

OK perhaps not ALL- some of the dancing stuff got the crowd involved.

But I do grade the overall game night presentation a fail. Start by replacing the MC, the court announcer, and better pre game entertainment and then go from there.

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Greggo  
Earlier this year

A lot of positives I thought.

Bogut sensational. Hopefully he can play big minutes once needed deep in the tournament (30+ minutes). Offense through him is cash.

Goulding amazing. Making his shots and actually a net positive on d with his activity.

Delly was everywhere. Getting hands in everywhere.

Landale continuing to be solid. Looks decent guarding 4's when needed.

Negatives:

Ingles was horrid. I guess that's upside we have for the tourney though.

Back up PF. Kay will need to regroup quickly and hopefully can build some confidence into the World Cup. Was shitting himself. Bolden and Simmons in that team would've looked nice.

Reliance on 3's. Got very little inside aside from Bogut in the high post.

Pick and roll D. I wonder if we didn't adjust as a point of emphasis. As in not giving up our actually defensive coverage for the tournament. But letting Walker, Mitchell and Middleton walk into short range jumpers for the entire game wasn't gonna get it done. As well as not giving up our coverage, you'd be pretty confident in running this drop big defense against any other nation that isn't USA. Shooting a jumpshot with someone closing out from behind is a quintessential NBA shot, that no one else really takes.

Same goes with our offense. We didn't run ANY quick hitters. Just all motion. Lemanis and the Boomers over the last stint have been amazing in getting easy scores from the quick hitters, so hopefully these are simmering nicely in the background. Remember from the last Olympics how many back doors, oops off back picks, counter plays etc we had in the arsenal.

This game made me more confident heading into the Cup, especially considering (assumed) that we have a bit up the sleeve.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yep. Cause the drop defense really eirked against Canada didn't it !!!

And why do we need an American court side announcer ? Cultural cringe or what

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

Obviously views for people there and camera angles for people at home were issues. BUT, can I ask why the court announcer pre-game did everything in an American accent? Why couldn't we have Australian announcers? The game was in Australia right??

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Cram  
Earlier this year

The game was good, but a lot of the stuff around the game was not great - a/v stuff, MCs, DJ, Music, sight lines etc. While I don't really care about a lot of that other stuff, many will.

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Just another poster  
Earlier this year

I think they should seriously consider starting Bogut in front of Baynes, we just seem to flow much better with him in that 5 spot.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Or start Bogut and Baynes.

We might lack foot speed on D. But it worked well in Rio.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Really good first half then the D slipped away and so did the 3. I'd like to see them take a few mid range jumpers and fix up the fitness.

It was a awesome spectacle on tv especially the first half and should help promote the game here and Australian bball in the USA

I know our current team sucks and I never expected them to win but they played well in the first half , hopefully come the Olympics we have our real team playing.
How do we get the young Australian NBA stars to play for the boomers? That is the question bball Australia has to answer. Bball Australia the basketball is in your court fix this some how.

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Greggo  
Earlier this year

I think we probably will start Bogut/ Baynes at some point. Maybe just trying to manage Bogut's minutes as he's ancient. Either way, With a combo of Landale/ Baynes/ Bogut we should only have spot minutes needed for other bigs. We can even afford to go small at the 4 (Creek, Barlow, or even Ingles) when Bogut is at the 5.

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Baller#3  
Earlier this year

I really don't think starting Bogut and Baynes together is the answer. We would be way too slow.

I think Bogut should probably start although he basically runs point centre with so maybe it is better for him to come off the bench. Otherwise you have a bench unit of Goulding, Baynes, Kay & Creek and who is doing any sort of passing in that unit...

I think you seriously have to run this sort of rotation for the best chance although it wont happen.

C Bogut/Baynes (match up based or who is playing better)
PF Landale 30 / Creek or Baynes 10
SF Ingles 30 / Creek 10
SG Mills 20 / Goulding 20
PG Delly 30 / Mills 10

I think the PF minutes really depend on the match ups. A big team you could easily run Bogut and Baynes, a small team you could go micro and put creek in as PF potentially.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I know there are a lot of strong opinions of AL out there and this is just another for the mix but he is so white bread, greek yogurt and porridge. Just such boring and bland basketball with both the Boomers and Brisbane.

While we do have a lot of talent in the NBA we have been left with a lot of role players (Bogut, Ingles, Creek etc.) and it might have been nice to pick up a couple other scores from other leagues to come and give something off the bench like CG43 can. Just pick up a couple guys who can make something happen on the offence end, Motum, DJ even Brandt or Jawai can start something from the post.

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Dave Q  
Earlier this year

Honest thought as a spectacle it was pretty good. The stadium looked very good indeed from my side of the tv screen. Sorry about the floor seats, but honestly what was the expectation?

Bogut looked great, and I would be very tempted to run him at the 5 and have him dish out of the high post all night long.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Watching from home on TV I felt like I was playing 2K and someone changed the camera angle to f**k with me.

Kept reaching for the PS4 controller to try and change it

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NTB  
Earlier this year

How bad does this team need Bryce Cotton...

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Am told promoters played the game on a raised court as they believed this would give spectators better viewing as opposed to playing on flat ground.

Not kidding.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Pick and roll D. I wonder if we didn't adjust as a point of emphasis.
Same goes with our offense. We didn't run ANY quick hitters."
This game made me more confident heading into the Cup, especially considering (assumed) that we have a bit up the sleeve."

Yeah, that's it. Our dream team of coaches who have NEVER won anything internationally are foxing ! We've been foxing all along but Canada and the Us are going full speed !

I feel much better. We are a lock for gold.



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AngusH  
Earlier this year

The lack of adjustments over the last 3 games on that pick and roll D makes me feel like I'm watching Gaze-era Kings games all over again.

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Greggo  
Earlier this year

To the two above, I'm pretty confident in preparation games we are running only one on ball defense (ie: big dropping, guard going over), and we'll have different looks in the tournament. We'll see.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Am told promoters played the game on a raised court as they believed this would give spectators better viewing as opposed to playing on flat ground.

Not kidding."

It actually does give a better view, they're basically up on a stage like a play or music concert. Those at the back of the ground floor would have had an even worse view if it wasn't raised.

Idk why people are suddenly so shocked that the court was raised, they literally said a year ago when they announced the venue that thats what they were doing for it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"To the two above, I'm pretty confident in preparation games we are running only one on ball defense (ie: big dropping, guard going over), and we'll have different looks in the tournament."

This is something the Tall Blacks have been known for too. It's not smart to give away your variations at either end before the tournament.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Greggo, I really hope you're right, but you can fox by trying 4 or 5 things so that teams don't know which one you're going to do, rather than by only doing one thing that definitely isn't working. In fact, trying a mix of things would give us a much better chance to figure out what does work. Can we get away with switching it, if the weakside corner D tags in on the rolling big? We don't know, because we haven't tried. The answer is probably not, because the bigs don't have the footspeed and if we're playing Mills, Delly and Goulding together like we did last night the weakside corner D is still going to be too small to impact the roller. Can we have the big hard show and send the guard under? Don't know, haven't tried. Can we ice it? Don't know, haven't tried.

How stupid is what we're doing in screening situations, though? Teams with decent guards will absolutely shred us in the mid-range. Now imagine Jokic as the screener with Bogut sitting 6 feet away. Giannis. Gasol. No need to run any other offence against us, just have the big guy screen for the PG and feast. So frustrating to watch.

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Just another poster  
Earlier this year

Playing Baynes and Bogut together wouldn't be a good idea, for one you would then have two non shooters on the court at the same time, plus you would be playing Baynes out of position asking him to cover much faster more athletic guys.

We seem to be fine getting the young nba players and future nba players to play olympics, all of them have expressed that desire, World Cup is another thing entirely though sadly.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

We seem to be fine getting the young nba players and future nba players to play olympics, all of them have expressed that desire, World Cup is another thing entirely though sadly.


Bring on the Olympics


Maybe Australia needs to host the World Cup

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If nz are ahead of Australia after the WC are Australia out or are there other qualifying games for losers????

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Baller#3  
Earlier this year

Australia need to finish higher than NZ to automatically qualify. If they don't they will need to win one of four 6 team Olympic qualifying tournaments to get in which i cannot see being easy with some of the European teams who will likely not automatically qualify.

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Greggo  
Earlier this year

Playing Baynes and Bogut together worked last Olympics, and I wouldn't call Baynes a non shooter.

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Cram  
Earlier this year

Baynes and Bogut worked in Rio, but both are three years older and slower now. I think its a step to far to play them together now. Plus I think they're better served rotating for each other giving us 40 minutes of quality C play (assuming Baynes finds his form). If you get both guys starting and both pick up early fouls we're left with Landale the only other person with a hope of playing the C spot.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

Also Baynes and Bogut only played the first 4 minutes of each half together in Rio. It wasn't so much time together. They were +4 in 92 possessions (excluding vs China, Venezuela), so not bad considering they were playing against starting units. The game has evolved even in the last 3 years, so it's questionable whether 2 relatively slow bigs will work well in getting out to shooters, especially against North American teams that rely so much on perimeter shots. It seems to be USA's shooting 4s that destroy us.

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Just another poster  
Earlier this year

Plus Baynes is a about a 30% 3 point shooter. Not terrible but not really something you have to guard, playing him and bogut just puts more pressure on ingles and mills. Landale at the 4 is not ideal either. What's with Lemanis and playing centres at that 4 spot.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

We better finish higher than New Zealand now as we are NO chance of winning a qualifying tournament when NO nba players will be available and while we we have Lemanis coaching

If we don't beat Canada in game 1 which will be super tuff we are stuffed

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's okay mate, Mitch Creek is now a deadeye three point shooter according to some around here now.. We'll be right.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Be interesting if both NZ and Australia go out in the first round. What would happen there. NZ no certainty to get out there group either.

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Cat Fontroller  
Earlier this year

Disappointing to see Heal and Anstey trying to diminish the concerns raised by fans about the seating.

After all, it's not about the fans, especially those that find hundreds (thousands) of dollars to support the sport.

Dickhead stuff from those two.

Who are they sucking up to? Oh yeah, that's right, the bloke with the money?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Disappointing to see Kay there. Sobey. Pffft. Gliddon, really?
Jingles needs to score. Bogut 4 points really? Pathetic. So much potential, so much not delivered, however its a WC prep and accounts for nothing.
Let's hope this mini serious form does translate to the WC.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

As a young man growing up I dreamed of being able to watch a national game between Australia and America. Tonight my dream became a nightmare, luckily I guessed that the superstars wouldn't come out so I didn't go to the event live. But even watching it on tv,I had to change the channel repeatedly to see what else was on and go on Facebook etc because the crap churned out tonight was unbelievable. Most of the above complaints I totally agree with, a joke of a selected team with about as much excitement as a div 3 under 14 game. I wish I had not even paid for the electricity to watch even a part of it let alone going to it live. Can't even use the excuse of flooding youngsters to prepare for Olympics.

How are you feeling now champ?

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