Anonymous
Last month

Aussie 9 men rotation

The 9 men rotation is to be blamed for aussie running out of gas in the semi final against spain

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cavolo  
Last month

Hmmm.... Spain ran an 8 man rotation...

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Camel 31  
Last month

i would have given barlow sobey gliddon a few minutes here and there

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" i would have given barlow sobey gliddon a few minutes here and there "

they are unplayable.


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Baller#3  
Last month

Playing those guys wouldn't have got us to the semi to begin with

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D2.0  
Last month

Its an interesting question.
a quarter of our team is comprised of literal useless tits. We might as well have saved on the airfare.

So for me it raises a few questions:

1. Hypothetically, would we have been better off with specialised role players, (eg defenders or rebounders) that could have played minutes throughout the tournament?

2. Again hypothetically, in a compact tourney, playing tough games every 2nd day, would an 11 or even 10 man rotation have resulted in fresher legs tonight?

3. Somewhat hypothetically, should we have had some extra scoring options on the bench, and when the guys were running cold, should we have thrown in Gliddon to jack up a couple??

4. Ok, so WHO should we have had, instead of the 3 tits?
For all the blithering about guys not knowing the system, what's perfectly obvious is that it would have been hard to find anyone more useless. They might as well have suited up Longley and Caporn.

5. Overall, is it a problem with selection, utilisation, or just availability?

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Just another poster  
Last month

They looked really gassed tonight. I had a horrible feeling this 9 man rotation thing was gonna bite us in the ass eventually. Lemanis usually goes 11-12 deep, have no idea why he didn't in this tournament. If you’re not going to play these guys, what was the point of it all, particularly after all the controversy with the players not selected in the original 12.

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Perthworld  
Last month

We needed blowout games to happen early against teams like SEN and DOM to give our main rotation a bit of a rest. Problem is it never happened.

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Anonymous  
Last month

what is the point of having gliddon, Barlow and sobey? They have not seen any court time in this tournament. Could have give these 3 spots to green, makur and Humphries to gain some experience

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Hroz  
Last month

Needed to blow out teams early to give those 3 a run. Didn't happen and here we are.

Not sure if Spain were able to play their 10-12 men. But they also had 1 extra day rest.

Heartbreaking loss.

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Lorenzo  
Last month

We probably were planning to use the end of the bench but winning overtook that plan.
Most coaches can't run a 12 man rotation,too many variables.
So 9 man is most practical.
Take 3 young guys that are on the radar for the future to learn team dynamics and culture and plays.
Throw them in if chance arises but prepare them for the future.
These last 3 are great people but there needs to now be some passing on of the legacy.
Ok Simmons and bolden left but Motum Adel etc may play for us one day,give them opportunity to learn.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Needed to blow out teams early to give those 3 a run. Didn't happen and here we are."

exactly, but blowing teams out is not realistic. at this level you get maybe one chance to do that, maybe 2 chances if you are very lucky and score an easy group which we did not do. we aren't the only country who is pretty good at basketball. we have improved a lot in the last 10 years but so have a lot of other countries.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There were some teams that had younger players but the sides that progressed were the solid older teams. Landale after looking fantastic in summer league noticeably got not as valuable as tournament progressed. At 23 years old and scouting reports on you it gets harder. In hindsight it would have been good if Bolden had hung around but he elected to leave, you are not guaranteed a starting spot you have to earn it. Bolden length would've been handy off the bench.

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Anonymous  
Last month

" i would have given barlow sobey gliddon a few minutes here and there "

they are unplayable.


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NZ went 3-2 and beat two European teams playing players of lesser talent than those three.

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D2.0  
Last month

Even saying we needed blowouts, acknowledges that we had three completely useless tits who could only be played in dead minutes.

So why take them at all?
Why not role players, or somebody who might have had an impact on the score, or somebody who could at least play minutes without being a total liability.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not at all. Those three could have played roles if we had injuries, but once you get deep in the tournament and they haven't played much, it's not wise to throw them in cold, they'll just be off the pace.

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Anonymous  
Last month

in other words, lemanis picked 3 guys who are not good enough for
the WC

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Anonymous  
Last month

In other words no, he picked 9 of the 12 to play in his rotation, and stuck with that rotation as he didn't have any injuries.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Last time I checked Argentina are playing for gold and they don't have a single NBA player.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Last time I checked Argentina are playing for gold and they don't have a single NBA player.


Love this fact.

Also:

ACB players in the Final

ARG 7/12
ESP 8/12

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paul  
Last month

Finalists in major FIBA gold medal games with one or fewer current NBA players :

2000 - France (0)
2002 - Argentina (0)
2004 - Italy (0)
2006 - Greece (0)
2014 - Serbia (1)
2016 - Serbia (1)
2019 - Argentina (0)

Bad omen for Argentina is all those teams have ended with silver!

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paul  
Last month

*those numbers are obviously from this century only, I didn't look pre that period as there weren't so many international players in the NBA up until that point

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Isaac  
Last month

In hindsight, I wonder if Lemanis would've considered a veteran point guard like Damian Martin or similar to spell Patty/Delly. Instead of Barlow. Those two must've been exhausted by the end - they were basically sprinting off screens or chasing other guards the whole tournament.

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paul  
Last month

Yep. Or Kevin Lisch, who is a high-level defender.

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