Anonymous
Last year

Big V 2020

Hearing some clubs have been notified of divisions they're in next season, When will they be released publicly?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Will be finalized by Friday. Released next Monday

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

I can't imagine it will be out that quickly based on how slow the Big V Move

Be good to see divisions for Mens D1 & SC

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Anonymous  
Last year

Quite funny some loud mouth on here saying about how whittlesea won't drop down a division and it was a well known fact I think he used. Well guess what whittlesea with their joke of a coach have plumeted down from SCM to div 2, that's some effort by one man.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

is that official then?

No structures have been released from what I could see, so you must be either with the club or within another club

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Anonymous  
Last year

#766636 there is nothing official released by Big V and clubs still have time to work with the league as to where they will play so maybe hold off on your hate speech

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Anonymous  
Last year

The league wanted them to go down and whittlesea wanted to go down. Case closed

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pretty sure Whittlesea tried to stay in Div 1 but were told no.

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Anonymous  
Last year

With the team they had this year in D1 they'll win D2. The gap is massive.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If the coach comes back they won't have the same players

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Anon  
Last year

Camberwell has advert for "D1M" tryouts later this month on their Facebook so they seem to have heard they've been promoted.

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Anonymous  
Last year

That's because the league loves jeffers. As for whittlesea with that same team and coach with a poor import they wont make finals in div 2 and they lost prac matches to a few div 2 teams as well

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Anonymous  
Last year

Top 3 from Div 2 all up?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah not sure about that. If Corio Bay relegated and that's 4 new reams in Div 1.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Camberwell, Southern Penn and who else is moving up? Those 2 teams were by far and away the clear 2 top teams in that division.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Mildura are div 1 if Calvin Henry is on the court, if he's sitting the bench or missing the game they're bottom of div 2

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Anonymous  
Last year

Not sure how many times it needs to be mentioned, Corio Bay does not exist any longer an will have zero teams in the BigV, or anywhere else!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Geelong United, Colac ??

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Anonymous  
Last year

Above anon you can mention all you like but a Stingray logo was used on an invitation for an open Gym on Facebook.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Under the terms of the merger between Geelong and Corio Bay, the Stingrays name has to be retained for the 2020 Big V season.

Will be Geelong United from 2021 onwards.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Thanks, a precise answer.
What Divisions please, Youth League and Men.

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Anonymous  
Last year

That's interesting news out Geelong, wonder how many people were privy to that information.
Stingrays live on!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Players know, coaches know and those that need to know know.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why is it a secret? It should be something to be proud of.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Corio Bay has zero competition moving forward as an Association, all of the clubs & players are now with Geelong United.

So, maybe the name will be retained for a season, but where would they play, who would run it, who would fund a BigV out of Corio Bay with nothing but a name, no revenue and no members?

Stingrays no longer have a committee, other than the basic shell to keep it viable as a legal entity, they had no VJBL try outs, nothing of any note has been done under this banner.

If they enter in the CBL this summer I would be surprised, so if they don't, I don't expect them to enter any teams in BigV!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Definitely not entering CBL, the season starts tomorrow. Geelong United play Bellarine in their first game.

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Anonymous  
Last year

And there is your answer, no Corio Bay in CBL, so there will be NO STINGRAYS in Big V, guaranteed!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Stingrays should be kept alive as a club, someone takes them on and starts developing juniors so they become a domestic club in the Geelong United competition, that would be the logical scenario to keep the name alive.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No secrets 114 is correct. Let's wait until Big V announce Divisions. Or ask next time you in Geelong.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No different to RMIT Melbourne Uni no Juniors at either club. Makes for interesting Divisional changes..

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Anonymous  
Last year

GU created a nice little loop hole for themselves by the sounds of it...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Of course they did.

On another note who is running NBL1 this year? Is it still Dean Anglin?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Loop hole or keeping within the rules of operation. If Anglin could not keep Geelong Supercats in Senior Big V what makes you think he could or would support this.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Now he is with BV instead of against BV. Hopefully all other NBL1 clubs get a senior Big V side too.

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Anonymous  
Last year

So for those in the know, who are already happy to give inner sanctum details, what teams will they have in Big V?
Senior Men & Women and only 1 set of men's and womens YL teams?

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Anonymous  
Last year

No David Herbert at Supercats now either,interesting times ahead

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Anonymous  
Last year

Where has this come from ^^^

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Anonymous  
Last year

The horse mouth,surprised it hasn't been made public ,like everything else with United kept very quiet,

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Anonymous  
Last year

This is huge if it's true

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's confirmed, Geelong United to play in Stingray uniforms for Big V. One Association to wear 3 different uniforms next year. Geelong United for VJBL and CBL, Stingrays for Big V and Supercats for NBL1.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Confirmed to you, or by you?

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Anonymous  
Last year

By someone who sits at the big boy table.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Odds the leagues are actually released today by the league ..... NO CHANCE

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Anonymous  
Last year

You will need to wait until after AGM which is not until last weekend October I believe.

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Anon  
Last year

Can confirm Western Port indeed has gone to CM, Corio Bay in D1M as "Corio Bay"

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Bear  
Last year

^Anon, how is it you can confirm Corio Bay will be in the BigV next season, can you elaborate?

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Big V do have a draft league structure - I've seen it

Cburn YL2 > YL1
Albury looking to enter YL2
Shepparton YL1 or 2 not sure yet
Sunbury might be the only team relegated out of YL1 due to new teams

I'm a youth league guy, so I like to see which new clubs and teams are coming in. I can look again at the doc to see senior teams - its a draft proposal to help with first phase of fixturing its pretty common that this document gets leaked and people think its the real thing

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bear

Corio Bay must be around. Looked on Big V Association Page. Stingrays is there. Mailing address AWA. Stingrays lives.

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Anonymous  
Last year

C'mon Bear, you have all the inside information on GU, surely you haven’t been left out of the loop?
Has been reported several times over the last week, that Stingrays will be playing in Div 1 Big V...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Corio Bay will play in Div 1 Men without an import.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Women?

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Bear  
Last year

I have not seen any evidence that Corio Bay will enter BigV and I have already posted why I don't believe they will be able to.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bear,
BigV sent out the competition structure to all of the clubs this week and had Corio Bay in d1M

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Anonymous  
Last year

Women in D2

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Anon  
Last year

Only top 2 not 3 from D2M went up. Mildura stays in D2M, Southern Peninsula and Camberwell up to D1.

RMIT women begin in D2W as well in 2020!

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Bear  
Last year

I am happy to stand corrected any time, but what I am saying is that there is a difference between having a team called Corio Bay enter under another Association's support network compared with what we had previously.

If they have them listed, that's not the same as having them actually enter the competition with teams and a support network behind it.

So, my questions are, where is the committee behind this, the finances, the players, coaches, volunteers, venue, etc... Where are these teams coming from?

If you are saying (anon) that the BigV has them on a proposed list, okay so where is the evidence that they can action it according to the BigV's list of requirements and conditions of entry?

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anon  
Last year

If you are saying (anon) that the BigV has them on a proposed list, okay so where is the evidence that they can action it according to the BigV's list of requirements and conditions of entry?

Why would this matter? BigV have bent rules multiple times over the years to allow the comp to continue. Stadiums with less than adequate change rooms, insufficient seating etc.. to name a few items that they have overlooked to keep the wheels turning.

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Anonymous  
Last year

From the big boys table. Horses mouth.
Stingrays will play on in 2020 in Div 1 men's Div 2 women's. But thanks for the banter have loved the speculations. Sorry to burst your bubble Bear. Yes looks like the paperwork side will come from GU but Stingrays will have to be solvent etc to play.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Can someone who has the structure just post it on here so we can all see ...

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Bear  
Last year

That's funny anon, I don't believe I am in a bubble, just looking for facts and evidence...

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Bear  
Last year

To be clear, what I am reading from the anon posts here is that someone believes GUB may enter two sets of Big V teams in 2020, one wet under United and another under the Stingrays name.

If this is what is proposed, yes the Big V would have to make some concessions, also I don't see why this would be done and to be honest how successful it would be, but if this is the proposal I haven't heard anything about it yet...

Speculation, isn't fact!

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anonymous  
Last year

Western Port and Sunbury come up into CM
Corio Bay relegated to Div1 (under the name of Corio Bay)

10 teams in CM with 18 games (home/away)
Top 5 playoffs

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Anonymous  
Last year

Moving on did Bellarine get in Youth League.

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Anon  
Last year

Shows winning is not everything with WP going to CM only $ count

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Anon  
Last year

Shows winning is not everything with WP going to CM only $ count

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Anonymous  
Last year

will western port and sunbury be competitive in champ men?
Or are they another Blackburn story

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sunbury will be good.
Wp will be interesting with ageing core, player/coach and horrendous youth league program.
Network for good imports limited also with previous coach not there anymore.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Word has it Westernport going to pour in massive dollars into their men's program. Watch this space.

Will probably send the club broke but hey

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Anonymous  
Last year

Only a few of WPs roster from last year could play champ. Will basically need a complete new team.

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anon  
Last year

Geelong/Corio Bay

Division teams stay as Corio Bay, Youth teams are Geelong United

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Anonymous  
Last year

What is the Blackburn story?

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Anonymous  
Last year

What's the question regarding Blackburn? They're still in Champ

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Anonymous  
Last year

Dominated Div 1. Promoted to Champ and have been the second worst team in champ each year.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Blackburn dominated div 1 for 4 years without ever winning a title thanks to their choking coach

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Anonymous  
Last year

The story with Blackburn is they lost 6 of their top players before last season, do that to any team and they'll struggle.

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Anonymous  
Last year

So what was the reasoning for the season before? They actually had a better record this season Than the season when they had their "6 best players"

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Anonymous  
Last year

Just saw WP promoted to champ men. WTF?

Have I missed something?

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Bear  
Last year

The news is out: https://geelongunitedbasketball.com.au/2020-geelong-united-big-v-coaches/?fbclid=IwAR1M2Egebj6HZrEcxhy1kpPTZpRUtjAucLKjXBisbKIzBhwd8PZxYSI6ZvM

Geelong United entering teams in BigV under the old Corio Bay name in seniors and as Geelong United in YL.

Only for 2020, then I believe all will be under the Geelong United banner in 2021.

My thoughts have always been that the BigV is too exclusive and should work with NBL1 to allow any Association to enter wherever they wish and for it to be regulated by being more inclusive and less restricting, it will be interesting to see where this all leads us in years to come...

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Anonymous  
Last year

So Bear, they are going in under Corio Bay, it would appear you owe a few posters apologies after calling them out....speculation, isn't facts....looks like your out of the loop @ GU.

Anywho, way to get rid of a coach saying he didn’t develop any players, to then turn around and cut off development for the senior program!
Clearly no room for development under 3 different clubs, no players can move between division, players would require a clearance to move.

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Bear  
Last year

Anon, I am always happy to stand corrected, once the facts have come out they have supported my thoughts. This is what I have been saying all along. I have been saying that a team wearing Stingrays tops, entered under GUB's players, committee, funding, venue and support network is hardly a Corio Bay BigV team, isn't it?

This appears to serve a purpose which is fine, my beef is with the draconian rules of the BigV and NBL1, not allowing an Association (whoever they are) the flexibility to enter teams into the competition that they can support and which suits the local area!

They have much to improve on...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Massive backpedal Bear, just admit you were wrong and stop trying to weasel on technicalities

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Anonymous  
Last year

The technicality was the point anon, you shouldn't have avoided those comprehension classes.

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hoopfan  
Last year

With tryouts beginning to take place are there words circulating on major local players moving or any word of import shifts/new ones coming in?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Dillon Stith to NBL1 - Surely leaves the door wide open for another team this year. Who's looking good?

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anonymous  
Last year

With Stith and Tomada leaving McKinnon it is hard to see them being challenger this season.

Other top 4 teams from last season:

Hawthorn:
Ins - Daniel Herbert (Keilor), Trevon Clayton (Hume import 2 year ago)
Outs - Kirksey, O'Sullivan

Casey:
Ins - Jordan Coleman (Hume), ?
Outs: Polk, Hobba, ?

Hume:
Ins - Kirksey (Hawthorn), Import?
Outs: Jeka, Coleman, Shabazz,?

Other teams:

Keilor:
Ins - ???
Outs: Symons, Anderson, Kaba, Herbert, Todd, Triplett

Chelsea:
Ins - Kaba, D'Agostino
Outs - Big import (name?), ?

Blackburn:
Ins - apparently 2 x imports
Outs: Heath, D'Agostino

Werribee:
Ins - ?
Outs - Shepherd, Kulas, Smith, Formosa

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Anon  
Last year

What on earth is happening at Keilor?

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Anonymous  
Last year

With Stith, Tomada, and Eric leaving McKinnon it is hard to see them being challenger this season.

Other top 4 teams from last season:

Hawthorn:
Ins - Daniel Herbert (Keilor), Trevon Clayton (Hume import 2 year ago)
Outs - Kirksey, O'Sullivan

Casey:
Ins - Jordan Coleman (Hume), ?
Outs: Polk, Hobba, ?

Hume:
Ins - Kirksey (Hawthorn), Import?
Outs: Jeka, Coleman, Shabazz, Martin,?

Other teams:

Keilor:
Ins - ???
Outs: Symons, Anderson, Kaba, Herbert, Todd, Triplett

Chelsea:
Ins - Kaba, D'Agostino, Calvin Enge (keysbourgh)
Outs - Big Import(name?), ?

Blackburn:
Ins - apparently 2 x imports
Outs: Heath, D'Agostino

Werribee:
Ins - Aaron Harrison( Latrobe import), ?
Outs - Shepherd, Kulas, Smith, Formosa

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Anonymous  
Last year

Where has Tomada gone?

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Snowy  
Last year

Chelsea import gone,would that be Colin Voss?or corey

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Anonymous  
Last year

Colin Voss is the import no longer at Chelsea.

yes where has tomada gone to? No one saying which club just saying he is gone.

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Snowy  
Last year

Appears to be male dominated down there.anyone know what's happening on the female side?

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anonymous  
Last year

Tomada to Knox is the rumour

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Anon  
Last year

If ins & outs are correct then Chelsea has done best so far!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Didnt Kaba average like 12ppg last year

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Anonymous  
Last year

Kaba average 9 points per last season.

An addition to the team it is but not necessarily a beneficial addition. Very inconsistent shooter added to a roster of brasser, Mitch Riggs, and standefer.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Are both Riggs and Brasser still playing?

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John  
Last year

Brasser currently playing CBL for Southern Pen. Heard that a return to his Junior club now that they've been elevated to D1 is a strong possibility.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brasser back to Sth Pen.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brasser back to Sth Pen.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Huge pick up by Southern Penn.

Brasser with an import, they will be very good

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Anon  
Last year

Can confirm both Brasser & Riggs staying at Chelsea for $$$$ so their Big 3 continue with them and Standerfer plus Kaba, Enge, D'Agustino and a couple of others, will there be enough basketballs at the Gulls

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Anonymous  
Last year

More basketballs at gulls than committee members !!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brasser is a very selfish individual player so I doubt he would be at chelsea next year with all those big guns he will want to be the man at southern pen

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anonymous  
Last year

Problem with Chelsea is that Corey is so ball dominant. Although he is a solid player at CM level, it limits how good the team could be. Maybe a new coach will change that.

Replacing Voss with Kaba doesn't give them much of an inside presence

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brasser is 100% at Sth Pen

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Anon  
Last year

Will tell you that brasser is playing Sth Pen summer league then back at Chelsea, getting good $ too. Spoke to Sth Penn who have said they would have announced his signing if he was playing there, but always good to see some forum work!

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Anon  
Last year

I agree with post about Brasser playing at Gulls saw him last week coaching junior Gulls so he wouldnt be doing that and playing elsewhere

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anonymous  
Last year

Chelsea going to be stacked...

Brasser
Riggs
Standerfer (rumour has it he is now local)
Kaba (rumour has it he is now local)
Import
Import
D'Agostino

That is as good as any 7 man rotation in league. Depending on imports, it is as deep as any NBL1 team

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Anon  
Last year

Throw in Enge and a couple of others and yes good roster

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Anonymous  
Last year

Kaba is a local. Standefer is still import.

Chelsea have decided to not go with another import this season.

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anonymous  
Last year

Word direct from team member (listed above) is that they are getting 2 x imports...

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Anonymous  
Last year

How did kaba become a local so much sooner than Corey??!!
So they are spending stupid amount on an obsolete league to win what exactly?
Surely they can't be that misguided ?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brasser just training with Chelsea to see how it is with the new additions. He'll decide after Christmas.

Can’t blame him really. Been solid for them all these years and is now is apparently going to be coming off the bench if he stays there.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why are Chelsea throwing so much coin at winning this title. Do they have the same commitment to those ladies team ?

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Anonymous  
Last year

I'm hearing Tomada back to Kilsyth.

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Anonymous  
Last year

McKinnon sign import JT Terrell.

Has experience with Albury wodonga from seabl days

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Anonymous  
Last year

Would love for Chelsea to make public how much they spend on the men in comparison to how little is being spent on the women.

Inequality at its finest down there that's for sure.

There were people talking about that at the AGM.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hearing Geelong/Stingrays are going into Div 1 Men without an import. Would they be the only team to do this.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hearing a fair few teams won't have imports in D1 next year. So many teams have wasted money on rubbish players that bring off court dramas the last few years

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Anonymous  
Last year

Heard from a good source that Chelsea have the same men's and women’s budget as last year. So much crap on this forum.

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Anonymous  
Last year

^ 776468 and how much is in ten budget for each team ? Or didn't your source mention the figures !!

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Anonymous  
Last year

776552 I do know but it's not for a public forum full of wankers that have no clue! Suffice to say no one made comment last year and the numbers have not increased.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

No import doesn't always mean no American - plenty of guys who have been out here naturalised

I think strong home grown talent or local talent for that matter can make a team bond stronger, it whether the clubs need it to help promote the game in the local area.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pacers recruiting a head coach after already having tryouts??

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Anonymous  
Last year

That's what happens when all the players leave after the coach is announced, and nothing came out of tryouts.

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Bear  
Last year

Geelong has entered D1 in the BigV before without imports and been very competitive, this isn't new and yes more teams should do it if they can at this level, however a great import is worth while at the right location, horses for courses really...

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Snowy  
Last year

I have no doubt that Chelsea have the same budget next year,that being $150 large on the men's side,$1 on the ladies.if they don’t wont ladies sides,just say so and get rid of them.the club has a serious problem obviously

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Anonymous  
Last year

Let me tell you, Chelsea spending more than 150k on the men

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Anonymous  
Last year

When will Chelsea announce their Women's Team ? Heard today that they Could have had a former WNBL coach but didn’t interview him bcs the application was an hour late getting in. Surely you would interview him even if it was 7 days late. Would love to know who was on the coaching selection panel.

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Snowy  
Last year

If it related to the men's team would of been approved in a heartbeat even if a week late.only one problem if this dude got the job they would have to spend money on the women,which is not allowed

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Anonymous  
Last year

Most nbl1 clubs do not spend 150 on men's teams. Seriously doubt this. If it is the case I an telling all young guns to head to Chelsea for the $$$$$..

Still can not buy a Flag or a ring... For their 150 or a crowd.

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Anon  
Last year

Sounds like some sour grapes going on here about womens team, reckon it is a sour coach/player maybe, I come from a big club and we spend a bit on teams both men & Women but how others do it is up to them, my girlfriends friend played at Gulls and she loved it.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Whittlesea Men seem to have a lost some talent & recruits and a change was needed at the head coach role

Just seen DV YLW is advertised this also seems a little late as most teams have started some form of training by now.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Div 1 announced Stingrays/Geelong United.

Mix of 2019 SCM nbl1 and youth

Looks good on paper.

Rebula, Goodwin, Beks, Ruiz, Headlam, Bow, Till from Altona then youth Kos. Goodier, Blyth and Vekic.

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anonymous  
Last year

is this a Big V forum or a Chelsea 2020 forum???

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Anonymous  
Last year

What happened to Brian at Whittlesea? Isn't he the coaching director?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Brian should have been asked to leave long time ago. He wasted a lot of good young players. Hopefully something better happens now for the Pacers

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Delmos34  
Last year

What happened to the DV YLW coach? My understanding was that it was the same guy returning from last season, and they held the tryouts back in October. Is his departure connected with Jonno Goodman leaving, or a separate issue?

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think Baldwin from Knox is doing DV YLW

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pacers may not have a team, only 4 or 5 players and that's after tryouts, thats why Brian Walked.

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Anonymous  
Last year

so why was Brian not able to retain the players? so many have come to Pacers and left over the last 3 years that you have to wonder whether he walked or whether they players decided they would not play for him? sad development for the club

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Boomers  
Last year

Safe to say DV have lost the plot
Advertise the role but already appointed another coach as anonymous stated above
What a joke, DV going backwards very quickly

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Anon  
Last year

Any other news? Player/coach movement? Upcoming preseason games?

Into December now and haven't heard much since the updated competition structure!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bigv is well and truly on the downward trend. Teams leaving for nbl1 have really weakened the league combined with rapid expansion over the last several years with teams/clubs well and truly not up to senior rep standard. All the years of people bashing it, well now it is well and truly come to fruition. Scm is even more of an after thought now. Players and coaches looking to get involved with nbl1.
League needs to make some changes, if they sit still and do nothing this league will only drop further down into obscurity. A good case study in branding and what happens when too many people get involved at levels they aren't up to.

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Bear  
Last year

Calling the BigV 'on a downward trend' is very subjective in my opinion. What's changed can also be subjective, depending on what period of time you want to bring to the debate.

What hasn't changed is that the money is often poorly distributed, the fact is that it is one of the few semi-professional sports here that attracts an import or two who get some dollars, often at the expense of locals who may not actually be much less talented in some cases.

The problem with the BigV, and it always has been, is the incentive for talented locals to stay in the game after turning say 20-23 years of age...

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Anon  
Last year

Imports can and will also always draw people to a game regardless if they are more or less talented and at times can also earn $ in sponsorship so become a huge bonus to clubs than local talent, though I agree local players are just as good skill wise and less hassle (visas accommodation etc). Big V I agree have way too many leagues and teams to control but it is a great concept with people working hard to make it work they just need to condense and make it more like years ago, you had to show financials, domestic, junior rep, courts in good condition (change rooms, ref room etc) then we get elite.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Been yelling this for a while

We don't need YL2

We could almost do away with Div 2 and make it just Div 1/ Div 2 roll everyone in together.

YL takes talent away from senior teams and spreads the league too think - Div 2 womens comp has a lot of teams that just stink and should go play midweek domestic, and div 2 mens lacks real talent as the young guys that would fill this league in the past play YL instead.

Stop letting everyone in, reduce the leagues to help with sponsorship.

But Big V is an outlet for Pros/Ams and Semi-Pros to play basketball and the size of it says there are people out there that want to be involved and want to play regardless of the quality - the NBL1 is stealing talent issue isn't one THEY SHOULD BE! its the next tier up!

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John  
Last year

Agree with a bit of the Personal Foul. Think YL2 needs to go. With regards to Div2 though , it either needs to stay as is, or be disbanded. Combining D2 with D1, will show a massive gap between the top end of D1 and the bottom end of D2 playing in the same league. Even bigger blowouts would take place.

10-15 Years ago there were a lot less teams, spots had to be earned a lot more and there was more of a sense of achievement in making a team.
These days, there is certainly more teams than quality players, I know D1 teams that have to chase players to fill rosters, as opposed to teams cutting away players as I mentioned above.

I mentioned in another post when discussing this, that I think Big V should do what NBL1 did, set their parameters for the different levels, how many teams, requirements etc, then open them up to licencing, as NBL1 did. Those clubs that miss out, would then need to get their house in order to join.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lol Brian didn't leave because of lack of players. He walked out of contract meeting and told them to "keep their money" after it was docked due to being relegated. He is still the director of coaching though.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is Brian still Whittlesea DOC? I thought he was coaching VJBL at Blackburn with his son?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Last I heard he was still DOC with Damon Lowery

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Anonymous  
Last year

So he's Director of coaching at Whittlesea but coaches a VJBL team at Blackburn???? Who would allow that?

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Anonymous  
Last year

If I'm completely honest half of the executive committee and championship committee think he is a messiah and the man does talk a good game.

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Anonymous  
Last year

reality is he does very little; talk is cheap

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Anonymous  
Last year

Forget if he's good or not, how is he paid to be DOC if he's never there?

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Anonymous  
Last year

That executive committee would have to be pretty dumb to look at the person with likely the worst coaching record in the leagues history as a messiah. Especially after he took their program from The top tier of the league to the bottom. That alone would normally be a good indication of incompetence.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Whittlesea is falling apart in every department. Whoever hired that brian bloke should resign from their position.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Every year people on this forum have to jump on and bash a team, last year it was RMIT and then they went ok so this year its Whittlesea's turn. Give it a spell

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Anonymous  
Last year

RMIT was people's predictions whittlesea is a different story. Ever since brian came in they have been pathetic and won 5 games out of 45

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Anonymous  
Last year

How?

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's since both coaching directors came in at Whittlesea.
Youth League Women pulled out of the comp this year with no players. Last year the Champ Women nearly withdrew until they paid more recruits. Brian took a solid Mens program with home grown players from SCM, relegated year one, second last year 2, relegated year 3, now barely a team of 6 players for div 2 and he walks, but somehow is still paid as DOC even though he's coaching at Blackburn. Junior players have also now been leaving in droves. Looks like they're just hanging around to collect their pay packets.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Didn't he coach camberwell to relegation from d1 also?
Hasn’t the women’s coach got a record of leaving a trail of destruction everywhere he’s gone? Do your research on who you hire and do t believe because the have an accent they are qualified to do the job.

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Anonymous  
Last year

So who has taken over at Whittlesea then? Tough gig having to recruit in December/Jan.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Whittlesea falling apart has played into the hands of RMIT recruitment thats for sure. RMIT bashing was do we REALLY need another team in that region, but from the sounds of it we do!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

No news out of Whittlesea yet on who will coach their D2 men. Des Radoslavic was talking about applying.
Damon lowery also cut the u21 girls program which had 7 players, now allowing them to find one before comp starting n in Feb.
5 players also left u21 boys after team announced causing that team to fold also.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Whoever coaches Whittlesea Men had better have some new recruits, the few players left are trash and won't win a game.

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PersonalFoul  
Last year

Des is a good coach - he is at Westgate Basketball coaching U21s and would be worth giving it too, didn't coach there before???

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Anonymous  
Last year

Interesting to see a name change for Weribee

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Anonymous  
Last year

RMIT almost have a clean slate of players, very few from last season in their squad.

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Anonymous  
Last year

where have they gone? the import coffey was resigned if I'm not mistaken

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hoopfan  
Last year

New coach new team i would guess. Will be interesting to see as they had what would have to be considered a successful season considering the lack of big v experience on their roster and starting the first 5 games without coffey

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Anonymous  
Last year

Who is the new RMIT coach?

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hoopfan  
Last year

Jeff Sparrow. - Runs a skills development program in the states called point blank period

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Anon  
Last year

I think RMIT will be a top 4 team in D2M this year.

Anyone have any picks for divisions?

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Anonymous  
Last year

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Anonymous  
Last year

RMIT will become better by default by having Jeff Sparrow as their Head Coach. He has attracted a bunch of talented played who will do very well in division 2 men.

CM - Chelsea
CW - Hume City
D1M - Southern Penn
D1W - Mildura
D2M - RMIT
D2W - Blackburn

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Bold call with RMIT winning D2M. Also Southern Pen didn't re-sign Manassa from what I'm hearing so I wouldn't expect them to jump up and win right away?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Yeah agree, Sth Penn actually putting his highlight reel around for anyone interested.
Who have they signed, no announcements so far?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Will Casey finally win something this season?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Casey are quickly becoming a joke with the amount of money they spend compared to the results they get.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

How much of a joke are they?

Mens team makes finals every year. Youth programs do the same.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sth Pen need an import they'd have been bottom of div 2 last season without him

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Several Div 1 teams moving away from imports.
They don't bring in the crowds, can create off court drama for small clubs and no longer guarantee playing finals.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

^^While I tend to agree some clubs overpay/over-rely on import(s) that don't pan out, if you look at every single club that was in the grand final facing each other last year in every single division... they were there 100% because of their import(s).

I've heard the same about D1M not having a lot of imports this year including Corio, Southern Pen, Bellarine but I'd say let's see how it pans out and good luck to them, hope they don't regret it.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Well they no longer guarantee playing finals because every clubs has an import. Once upon a time the import was the difference maker!

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Bear  
Two weeks ago

Only one team can ever win the competition, so there are many things to consider, not just the championship, if you only focus on this you are missing many opportunities to succeed as a club...

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Quick question and an honest one (not trying to start a big debate or anything) but when is the last time a club without an import won the championship and what division was it?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Big v without an import is like CBL. Country teams think they are superstars winning until it comes to big v and every team has an import they get found out on defense

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Blackburn lost 4 regular season games over the 2016 and 2017 season in D1 Men without an import. Success without an import is possible.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Coburg in D2 in 2018.
Struggled to make jump up to d1 this season.
It's abit pointless having imports in D2. Even though everyone just about has one, the depth of local talent gets pretty putrid

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Blackburn lost in semifinals both 2016 and 2017.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

Did Coburg sign an import into D1M last season to help make the jump? Or struggled with the same group of locals that won d2m in 2018?

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hoops  
Two weeks ago

Was gonna say... Blackburn can lose as few games as they want, they didn't make the grand final with no import either year.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Melbourne Uni a couple of times during the 2000s.

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John  
Two weeks ago

Melbourne Uni were loaded with local talent though. Scott Cuffe, Liam Norton and Masunda to name a few. Tough group.

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Wellington  
Two weeks ago

Is McKinnon as big of a lock to win Champ this year as they were last?

Who are tops in D1??

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Camberwell almost won div 2 without an import last year

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A A Ron  
Two weeks ago

Camberwell had Max Barkerley

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Camberwell had Barkeley who is an import

Both Southern Pen and Camberwell promoted to D1 and both going with no import now? Haven't heard anything from either of them about re-signing their top guy

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Barkeley wasn't an import he was just playing for them

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Despite the loss of the big 3, you have to assume McKinnon are still favourites until we see if any of the other teams are stepping up with more depth.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Didn't Mckinnon roll Weribee or Keilor away from home in the last round with six guys from their bench playing?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Mckinnon beat Keilor in the last home and away game in 2019. Mckinnon didn't play their imports. They won because Keilor's main import tried to take as many shots as he could possibly take. Completely ignored his team mates. it looked pretty bad.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Speaking of Keilor, what's the go with them? Glascott coaching, imports? Haven't heard much besides the talk of them looking to hire a new coach and losing a lot of players??

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Anonymous  
Last week

Who is coaching the Pacers?

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Anonymous  
Last week

It was the Mckinnon bench, they had no imports or adrian tomada

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Anonymous  
Last week

Every team is beatable. Corio Bay best Hume last round.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

No news out of Whittlesea about coach. But they did announce a men's import

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Who is the import?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Francis Kipaway from Ball State University. 6'3 combo guard

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Chris Patton Signing for Blackburn. That is a pretty big fish

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Keeping D'Agostino would've been better than signing Patton for Blackburn

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

With new coach at Blackburn who else do they have?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Dagger and Heath big losses. Vikings would have to recruit heavily to improve significantly on previous seasons at Champ Men level.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Blackburn not done recruiting yet - more to come!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Where is Lankford coaching next year?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

I guess the BIG V wont be as testing for Patton as NBL1?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Lankford not coaching and concentrating on business ventures.

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Reality  
Earlier this week

Patton if he can stay on the court will dominate this league...only problem as teams will just double/triple team him as the rest of the roster will stink!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Reality - watch this space!!!!!!!!

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Boomer  
Earlier this week

I wouldn't be writing off Blackburn just yet. Experienced coach who has done well in Big V previously when coaching McKinnon

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Boomer  
Earlier this week

I wouldn't be writing off Blackburn just yet. Experienced coach who has done well in Big V previously when coaching McKinnon

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anonymous  
Earlier this week

A lot of noise around the roster Chelsea are putting together.

Standerford
Kaba
Import
Import
Brasser
Riggs
Dagostino (from Blackburn)
Calvin Enge

That team would be highly competitive in NBL1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

'Business Ventures'. Interesting, thought he was down at SEM, what happened there?

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Bear  
Earlier this week

Anonymous, if Chelsea get that team on court with two additional imports of some quality, yes agree they are a lock for the final and would likely deserve to be considered top seeds for BigV at this point in time...

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PersonalFoul  
Earlier this week

Lankford is at SEM doing what I'm not sure something around development was mentioned. Lankford didn't coach last season either.

Always tough when you got 1 stud and a not a good 2nd scorer in these leagues easy for teams to double team, but a angry fit patton is a scary scouting assignment for any team.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Standerfer the only import at Chelsea.

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Reality  
Earlier this week

Patton will need help as he doesn't have any real port moves other than just being a big unit so easy to double as he doesn't pass out of it effectively accept to one certain spot on the floor so easy to double and deny that pass he likes. (Good coaches will pick this up if you watched any of the SEABL games he played)

If they get good shooters and a creator around him then its a massive get but if you think he'll win you games without any help you are mistaken.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Reality you seem very concerned about Patton and Blackburn. Rest your mind. Don't worry. Help is on its way.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Big V website has McKinnon signing 3 imports for Mens Champ 2020. How many imports are you allowed in Big V Mens Champ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

One of them has signed through the Big V Next Stars initiative

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anonymous  
Earlier this week

It definitely reads like McKinnon have signed 3 restricted players, but one is Kiwi so likely qualifies as a local

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Big v stars what

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

So Kiwi is not restricted...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

That is how Sunbury SCW operated for years. Had a couple of NZ players plus their imports. One them a couple of titles.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Lankford is not involved at SEM

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Kiwi is not restricted, or is anyone from the general oceanic region.

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Anonymous  
Yesterday

Yeah Kiwis are not restricted because of the Big V Oceania rule similar to the old NBL rule

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