Luuuc
Years ago

WNBL 2019/20 - Round 1

You'd never know it from the complete lack of promotion, but the WNBL tips off in 3 days, starting with:

Fri 7:00 - Adelaide vs Sydney Uni

Sat 7:00 - Bendigo vs Melbourne
Sat 7:00 - Southside vs Townsville

Sun 1:30 - Canberra vs Adelaide
Sun 1:00 - Perth vs Sydney Uni


Hopefully there will be a flurry of previews & articles in the coming days that I can link to, along with some info about streaming/broadcasting.

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LC  
Years ago

Still no media guide or details on broadcast schedule either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wnbl, hoping it's gone at the end of season.
I want more for these amazing women and it will not happen unless it’s taken over.

What has Jackson and Karp actually done? I’ve seen no improvements.

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Wavess2Lynx  
Years ago

I don't hope it's gone. We need the WNBL. The talent is there and the quality of imports as good as any time in it's history.

Just sad to see the state it's been run.

Any sort of preview anywhere? What do people reckon are best lineups for each team?

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Waves2Lynx  
Years ago

As the saying goes, if there's nothing available, may as well do it yourself. Had a go, let me know what you think. Rosters based on the Tracker, so hopefully that was accurate.


Adelaide Lightning

Seekamp - Talbot - Nicholson - Turner* - Langhorne*
Hurst - Elsworthy - Novosel+ - Kaser - Brook - Hodges

Great looking starting lineup, Hurst/Hodges provide plenty of experience and know how that should help counter Novosel being out for rest of season.

Prediction: 3rd


Bendigo Spirit
Lavey - Wehrung - Grays* - Mijovic - Tobin*
Heal - Wilson - Tessari - Froling+ - Richards - Skinner

Probably slightly weaker than last season but can lean on their good imports to be a darkhorse again as before with a strong Aussie back court.

Prediction: 7th


Canberra Capitals
Epoupa* - Froling - Nurse* - Griffin - Tolo
Rocci - Cubillo - Wallace+ - Potter - Delaney - Reuf?

Looking a little more human than last season's super team, but still a formidable starting 5. Be interesting to see how their loaded back court works, especially if Wallace comes back late in season.

Prediction: 1st


Melbourne Boomers
Allen* - Cunningham* - Garrick - George - Magbegor
Conti - Farnworth - D'Andgelo - Beck - Davidson - Purcell

Probably the best looking roster, the only question really is how they all fit and work together. Should've won last season.

Prediction: 1st


Perth Lynx
Ebzery - Atkins* - Schwagmeyer - Payne - McGee-Stafford*
Mansfield - Whittle - Allen - J.Williams - Burrows - N.Williams

All about dat offence. Another deep looking team (to 8 at least) but same questions on how it all fits together but if it does, watch out.

Prediction: 4th


Southside Flyers
Mitchell - Cole - O'Hea - Blicavs - Russell*
Clydesdale - Reid - Rowe - Pizzey - Maley - Tomlinson

Plenty of talent in the starting five and former Gems backing up. Have to wait and see how they all mesh together but combined with the off season shenanigans I think they'll be hot/cold all season.

Prediction: 5th


Sydney Flames
Wilson - Smart* - Kunek - Planeta - Scherf
Tuhpea - Graham - Kuster* - Greaves - McSpadden - O'Hehir - Hodge

Another strong looking squad overall, even with the retirement of Snelly they look as good or better than last year. Will need everyone fit and firing to compete with the other "star" teams but could easily make finals.

Prediction: 6th


Townsville Fire
Vanloo* - Cocks - Magden - Garbin - Bishop
Gaze - Carleton* - Young - Boag - Aokuso

Even with a star like Bishop I think the Fire are still in a post-Batgirl funk and wont be able to get it together cohesively to match the other sides.

Prediction: 8th



Finals is going to be any combination of the top 6 teams I think, there's a clear gap in their roster talent to the next two sorry and between themselves form and injury could easily determine who's making the playoffs. The quality in this league is still impressive and if most of the imports fire it's only going to look better.

In doing this, I did notice that we seem to have an abundance of guards in the league. Hopefully that can translate in a few years time into some good Opals options.

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LC  
Years ago

Nice one!

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Perth Wilburs  
Years ago

Great write up. If Lynx doesn't do well this season I feel that the coach will be sacked.

Which games this week will be broadcasted?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Despite the WNBL's tweets this week like

Just TWO days until tip-off!
Are you ready?
We are.

They clearly aren't.

This week's fixtures page includes no broadcast info, and the game previews are all blank.

However from the link in the "Landmark Coverage" article - http://wnbl.basketball/blog/news/chemist-warehouse-wnbl-unveil-landmark-coverage-ahead-of-historic-40th-season (sorry, I would have posted that as a hyperlink but this board no longer allows me to) - it looks like Capitals vs Lightning on Sunday is the game that will be shown on Fox Sports & Kayo. The others all show a Live Stream icon, which is a little suspicious because the article clearly states that in the first 2 rounds only "select games" will be live streamed.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Thanks for your thoughts, Waves2Lynx - though I see you put both the Caps & Boomers to finish 1st and nobody 2nd. They're hard to split I agree. This season the Boomers look to have the edge in talent & depth, but same as the last several years it remains to be seen whether that translates to success.
Even the Flyers have a ton of talent, so it should be a good contest for 4th spot, but it feels to me like Melbourne, Canberra & Adelaide are a clear top 3. Much like last season. The Lynx & Flyers could both be competitive with them if they get their chemistry right.

As a Lynx fan I don't know that we're going to win a title any time soon, but I still love what coach Stewart does in terms of game style and giving his players the green light to just go out and ball. It tends to come undone in the finals because the depth of talent is not quite there, but IMO it's the best basketball in the WNBL to watch. We are blessed to have Ariel Atkins on the team this season. She's 100% legit - although currently hampered by a back injury, which 20 hours on a plane won't help - so she might not hit the ground running, especially now that the WNBA finals have gone to a game 5 decider tomorrow morning. McGee-Stafford is also a player I really like, but she's unlikely to put too many points on the board for us. Defensively she will be a great tag team with Maddie Allen, but neither of them can really play the 4 unfortunately.
If we still had Steindl this this team could do some real damage, but I feel like - as usual - we're one front court player short of being legit.

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Cam  
Years ago

As a Spirit member I believe we are a better team than last year.
19 Tobin V 20 Tobin - Probably arguing less effective due to more scouting against having played NBL1 with Lavey, Wilson and Richards so call it the same. Call it a 0.
19 Wehrung V 20 Wehrung – After Uni Games gold and a good NBL1 I'd back her in to be improved. Call this a +0.2.
19 Tessari V 20 Tessari – No reason to think she would not be even just a little improved but certainly no reason to think she has gone backwards. Call this a +0.1.
19 Turner (or no import!) V 20 Grays – Have not seen Grays in the flesh yet but would have to be pretty awful not to be an upgrade here! Going for +0.8 because not only was Turner pretty awful she disrupted the team as a whole for the few games she was here.
19 Hurst V 20 Wilson – Hurst was good for us last year but Wilson is at least as good if not better and had an league MVP NBL1 season so +0.1.
19 Payne V 20 Ernst (Mijovic) – Payne was terrific the last couple of years and a loss no doubt, but Ernst gives us some much-needed height and her outside shooting is not that much short of Payne’s so +0.1.
19 Tomlinson V 20 Richards – You mean we get to bring Gabe in off the bench? Gabe is not the rim protector that Lou was but is much more of an offensive weapon due to her being much stronger (Tomlinson was pushed around too easily) and spent the winter with Tobin/Wilson/Lavey at Braves so +0.4
19 Whittle V 20 Skinner – After a great couple of first games I really did not understand why Whittle didn’t get more court time through the year and was the one most affected by the ill-fated inclusion of Turner so without much knowledge of Skinner I could go -0.2 here.
19 McLean V 20 Heal – Shame to see Cass injured, she really gave it 100% when on court last season and I always love that type of player so a lot depends on Heal’s attitude coming off the bench so because of my conservative nature I am going -0.2 until Heal shows me she has "bought in" but talent wise this could easily be a plus.
19 Wild V 20 Lavey – I know this is not a direct swap (case of Lavey moving into Wehrung’s starting spot and Wehrung moving to bench but I wanted to make it easier to compare so left the 3 at start of list matching up on themselves). Wild was OK and I know everyone loves to bag out Lavey (more so when getting selected in Opals team) but this has to go down as a plus, +0.4.
That leaves a total of 1.7 and whilst an improved team does not mean a rise up the ladder because every other team may have improved but I think we are a much better balanced team than last year and settled with everyone arriving (as opposed to 2nd import missing at start of season and then being replaced with an ill fitting one that left after a few games). I think the depth is much better than last year and hopefully York is prepared to use that (as opposed to Pritchard), so hopefully we won’t suffer the same fadeout we did at the end of last season and can maintain a finals charge. Go Spirit!

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Luuuc  
Years ago

The WNBL Show Podcast
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode/443817

Basket Case Podcast
https://www.spreaker.com/user/carolwical/bc-6-1

Roy Ward's Season Preview in The Age
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/adelaide-canberra-southside-frontrunners-as-wnbl-season-tips-off-20191010-p52ziu.html

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Media Guide is now up on WNBL.com.au

Broadcast-wise, Canberra vs Adelaide is the Foxtel game for this week (a good choice), and all 4 other games will be live streamed via the WNBL website

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Anonymous  
Years ago

More disparity between these teams than the nbl.
Townsville, Sydney. You can cut those 2 straight away. Not making finals...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Missing a lot of players in the league.

Injured, pregnant, overseas, m.i.a.

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Waves2Lynx  
Years ago

Great that they're finally releasing all this info. Better late than never.

@Luuuc, yeah I noticed that only earlier today haha. Think I had Canberra 1st/Melbourne 2nd if that counts for anything (laughing at my bad takes by end of season probably). Agree with you about Perth's playstyle. Watching Sami and Williams was the peak I think. Adelaide are another team I enjoy watching. Canberra on a run look unstoppable. Tbf, not really any team I dislike in this league, though would rank Melbourne last on who I'd want to have success. Sorry Boomers fans :P

Love the hype for TTFKADR, they've got the talent just have to get it to work.

Think Sydney is being underrated, they're not going to be as bad as last season even if they don't have the talent that screams out "star". Continuity goes a long way.

I think the talent in this league is fine. If all teams have all their players available there's going to be a lot of really good players starting on the bench.

MVP predictions: all about the imports. Allen or Nurse favourite. Depending on how they settle and their team successes could easily see Atkins or Turner win it too. Hell even Epoupa or Tobin could be outsiders for it. Griffin or Bishop again would be the only Aussies I think with a chance.

For this round: Adelaide, Melbourne, Southside, Canberra, Perth

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seems to be more emphasis on youth which is good.
Almost every team has an 'academy' with several players u18.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bit odd seeing 5-6 players from dandenong in Boomers academy and not in Southside.

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Predictions  
Years ago

Think the Top 4 would be;
1. Adelaide
2. Canberra
3. Perth
4. Melbourne/Southside

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They don't make the livestream page very obvious on wnbl website.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wnbl Facebook has the link to the live stream

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes but who would know on the website, it's a secondary link

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great game for planeta.

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Perth Wilburs  
Years ago

Is the Perth v Sydney game being streamed?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They all, are I believe.

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Perth Wilburs  
Years ago

Oh, I thought only from round 3 that they are all streamed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like from start now. The Adelaide v Sydney game was streamed tonight. Looked like off nbl1 setup.

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

I was a bit worried with what I saw from Kuster in the pre-season game against China B. Didn't see tonight's game but doesn't look like she made much impact.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NOt even sure what that means, sorry.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

For an import not to start is not a good sign.
Never rated hibbert, just who you know again.

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Waves2Lynx  
Years ago

Looked like a good opening game. Break out from Brook really good for Adelaide with Hodges out testing their depth. If they've developed another player wow, watch out.

Sydney looked like some players had good games based on the boxscore. Just about fitting it altogether into a winnable performance. I was more surprised about Smart not starting tbh.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't see how Tupaea is in the opals mix...

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!  
Years ago

Adelaide look very good. Planeta has always been a very good player. As Adelaide's imports get more settled - look out. Caps v Lightning GF series again IMO.

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

I'm expecting big things from the Lynx this year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Spirit streammunwatchable

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Anonymous  
Years ago

fucking wnbl site doesnt work, year by year same shit

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I can't find any streams that work

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Every stream on a different page, this is real basic stuff they are failing at. No,replays
easier to just stream on wnbl page on YouTube.
Kestleman should just stream through nbl app

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

Flyers stream is working for me. Timms is good in commentary, actually talking tactics

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Go through Facebook stream link, twitter and wnbl website links don't work.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seebohms team about 6 deep at best, no Bishop tonight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If you can't watch the stream live, there are no replays?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

there are replays of last night's games so hopefully that means there will be replays of all other streamed games

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great game between lightning and capitals, hard to see Canberra losing many games if at all.
Is there a salary cap?

When u have Tolo, ruef and Wallace still to come in....

Also, I feel bad for Edwards as as Adelaide dp. Cold have easily got a full contract somewhere else.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is no salary cap in the WNBL. It is not a fair competition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only 3 bench players for Sydney, wtf...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lynx gonna start the season with a hunji

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Perth Wilburs  
Years ago

Lynx played really well. Looks like it's a competition between Canberra and Perth with Adelaide a close 3rd.

WNBL website is broken. Live stats doesn't work. They need to incorporate the WNBL within the NBL app.

Stream worked well, and commentators were solid. Need more stats graphics though, and more talk about stats as it's not so obvious to the viewer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide a much better team than the lynx imo.

1
Canberra

2
Adelaide
Perth
Melbourne
Southside
Bendigo

3
Townsville
Sydney

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Something Jackson and co have to do, even out the teams.

Canberra will smack Sydney by 50.

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!  
Years ago

Langhorne not on lightning boxscore ?

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

Langhorne missed the game with soreness

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Luuuc  
Years ago

It's going to be hard to even out the teams in the WNBL. Some of them just don't have that much cash to spend, so the only way to equalise would be to restrict the spending of many of the teams, which would mean losing a lot of talented players from the league and paying some others less than they deserve. Not ideal in a sport where we're wanting these women to be paid as well as possible. I do agree that it's not a fair fight these days though. That's not ideal either.

Lynx looked great early but after quarter time it was not pretty for anyone. Other than perhaps Nes'eya Williams, who played a very nice game and earned herself significant court time.
Schwagmeyer-Belger is looking lean and mean this season, great to have Mansfield healthy again, and I expect Maddi Allen to progress from last season as well, so there's improvement in the existing players. McGee-Stafford looked good for game 1 after not much time with the team. Just needs to dial it back a smidge when defending shots in the post or else she'll find herself in frequent foul trouble.
Once Atkins gets here and settles in this is going to be a potent team. I don't know if that will translate into consistently beating the best teams but it's going to be a lot of fun to watch.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Salary cap is needed for sure.

I'm still hoping the wnbl will come to there senses and align the teams with nbl.
Who has a link to the replay of live-streams, surely there is one.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Flyers vs Fire
http://control.5stream.com/player/?id=48416&s=0

Spirit vs Boomers
http://control.5stream.com/player/?id=48417&s=0
(**unwatchable**)

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ANON  
Years ago

I don't see how Tupaea is in the opals mix...


Agreed, mind boggling

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ANON  
Years ago

There is no salary cap in the WNBL. It is not a fair competition.

Lol
They get paid SFA , what would you cap them to, playing for free lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Few missing from last year.

Blicavs-baby
Cann-baby
Steindl-baby
Jarry-?
Mclean-Injured
Collins-?
Samuels-?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why no livestreammreplay page?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Todhunter not playing either

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Camel 31  
Years ago

It seems the record holder for player of the week is best player in round 1.
Kelsey Griffin

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stafford seems to have a terrible attitude.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great game.flyers win late.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has Schwagmeyer-Belger ever been all wnbl level?
Great start to the season.
Perhaps her production will drop off some when Atkins joins.
Really liking the Perth team. Can't see them losing much out west.

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