Anonymous
Last month

United v Wildcats Oct 20

Anyone know what time United landed back in Melbourne? There has to be genuine concerns of jet lag.

Could be a similar result as the Kings v 36ers game even though United's the home team.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hard to tell which wildcats team will show up, when they play poor can lose to anyone.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

I guess we'll know in a couple of hours.

United are 0-2 and unless they took the Dreamliner are likely to be a little seedy. Perth were absolutely punched around the ring by Cairns and are likely to be squaring up as two losses in a row is as unusual for Perth as a Wildcats supporter wearing deodorant.

Providing Cotton and White stay out of foul trouble, the game is there for the Cats to lose, especially in the 4th Quarter

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Anonymous  
Last month

Nothing to do with the actual results, but I'm liking the hooley write ups and interviews on the Melbourne site. Get him onto the main commentary team, a nice even balance with a twist of humour.

Re the game, jet lag could be massive, probably only been home for one night. On this I think Perth should bounce back which will leave Melbourne chasing hard the rest of the season. I also think Gleeson is a very good coach but if they get beat it could also show how much Neilson and Forde are missed.
Perth by 18.

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Can't see jet lag playing a part. They had a game in Sacramento so not overly far from Los Angeles airport. Then a straight flight from la. They might be tired from a tough schedule, but I think they would be over jet lag by now

Perth travelling to Melb after game on Friday would also mean fatigue

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth to bounce back or Dazz to lose his shit.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I call BS on the jetlag thing.
Was Adelaide Affected?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Was Adelaide affected?
Could be used an excuse for losing to Sydney.
Not really a feasible excuse though as Perth were hammered at home by Cairns.

I think it's gonna be a close one Perth by a whisker they bounce back after big losses.

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Anonymous  
Last month

On yesterday's performance which Adelaide played well and positively I’d say yes jet lag was a problem.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I just think Sydney are better.
Jetlag not a factor at all.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Anyone saying jet lag not a problem has clearly never tried intense exercise after such long flights.

Everyday people yes we will recover in a day or two and get back to normal sleep patterns. Elite athletes it's a much longer process and a very proven factor in fatigue and lactic acidosis tolerance.

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Perthwor1d  
Last month

Adelaide just weren't good enough.
Suck it up princess

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wonder if we will get a descent telecast and commentary tonight. Has been crap so far this season.

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Perthworld  
Last month

The EU would like to know why we complain about the commentary so much. Maybe they should watch a game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Wonder if we will get a descent telecast and commentary tonight. Has been crap so far this season."

Dwayne Russell will most likely be commentating, so no.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Two things to look for
1. How many times will forum tosser Perthworld post.
2. Bitching about the commentary.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Nothing to do with the actual results, but I'm liking the hooley write ups and interviews on the Melbourne site. Get him onto the main commentary team, a nice even balance with a twist of humour.

He's the sideline reporter for this one.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Seen about 40sec of Hooley on the telecast, and tbh I've gotta say he's a natural at it

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Anonymous  
Last month

These white Wildcats jerseys are pretty ugly and bland.

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Anonymous  
Last month

@ Perthworld do you find Hooley easy on the eye?

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Perthworld  
Last month

Not a fan of the beard.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You prefer clean-shaven then mate

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Wonder if we will get a descent telecast and commentary tonight"
I'm wondering if you will ever provide DECENT spelling.

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J  
Last month

Can anyone miss frokblong range against perth? Lots of these threes contested and all down.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Happy to have backed United tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBL going backwards.

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cosby  
Last month

Steindl worst player in the nbl, also what is with his amish haircut.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hooley found his spot, use him more.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hooley by all accounts is a pretty funny guy and already he is doing the job extremely well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Is Hooley offering a % of his pay to talk him up? In that case he is so great!!!

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J  
Last month

What is cotton meant to do? Surely that can't be a foul

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J  
Last month

Especially considering on the next play terrico does not get the call

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thoughts on the clean shaven Norton @Perthworld?

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D2.0  
Last month

"Perth to bounce back or Dazz to lose his shit."

Have to pick MU at home

But, great game so far. Perth still looking a little undersized inside, but overall getting the job done.

Question is going to be fatigue down the stretch. Perth in the 2nd game of the round, MU fresh off the plane from their USA games.

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Anonymous  
Last month

As an NZ baller time has come for Breakers to be allowed to play and not give away 15 points per game to the 3 players in grey

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Anonymous  
Last month

I also noticed Norton shaved the beard.
Thoughts @ Perthworld..

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Anonymous  
Last month

Acul not looking that great in an important game

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Hoopie  
Last month

Not convinced by Melbourne's performance so far. Too much swatting on defence, seem to have trouble scoring inside against Perth, and their offense seems too complicated compared to Perth’s. Melo seems like a backwards step from Casper, and McCarron seems to have pulled back into his shell a bit.

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Hoopie  
Last month

But I do like Hooley on the sideline

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J  
Last month

Same call on majok as hunt, why is it a foul, tje d is straight up??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lot of empty seats. NBL propaganda machine will be active this week. 2nd best league in the world...not!!!

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Hoopie  
Last month

Wtf was that foul on Steindl for? Goulding slaps the hand away and gets rewarded. Ffs shit call!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

#whereisperthworld

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Anonymous  
Last month

Should be concerned. Hooley will save it. He has made massive difference to the telecast and commentary. Massive

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yes Hooley and Gaze with homicide bot saying much even Dwayne is ok.

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J  
Last month

5 fouls in a min. Just give united the game already.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wow, home cooking at its finest.

Soft contact fouls on cats while United are body checking on defense

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jesse fouling out probably isn't a bad thing for perth

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why is Goulding allowed to shove with his armbar on defense. Refs packed up shop on one side of the court

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Perthworld  
Last month

This is Stiendl's last season under contract, right?

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AussiePride  
Last month

Twice in a row Barlow should have passed to Long right under the basket. Reverted to his form from 2 years ago.

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J  
Last month

Kay just got shirtfronted by long going for a block, but no foul...

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Gus3232  
Last month

Regardless of the result here, holy sh*t this has been a cracker of a game.

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's been Grand Final like.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Take that to the BANK!

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Perthworld  
Last month

The bank is open on Sundays

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sunday afternoon in Melbourne and the bank open. Great game, never underestimate Perth.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol, Melbourne is like la lakers.

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Hoopie  
Last month

United determined to lose ... and did. Some pretty dumb stuff in the face of Perth's tough defence.

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AngusH  
Last month

Ouch. Pretty rotten call on Long with the travel, but once again hats off to Perth. Huge shot by Cotton, but the Martin and White shots down the stretch also massive.

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Anonymous  
Last month

A couple dumb fouls from Barlow down the stretch.

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Anonymous  
Last month

8pts up with 2 to play WOW, don't lose those ones. Well done Perth.

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Timberball  
Last month

100% Cotton, 100% clutch

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J  
Last month

Well that was an escape. United should not have lost that. Having said that some consistency in calls would make the game better

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Perthworld  
Last month

Cotton banking $600K in Perth and that shot in Melbourne.

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Btown  
Last month

Is that 3 wins in a row against United won by clutch shots.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Melbourne as low as $1.01 in live betting. Ouch.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Regardless of the result here, holy sh*t this has been a cracker of a game"
Well said Gus. Good to see you here. Been a few years since we last spoke. I backed United and down the stretch they lost it.
However a great game to watch.

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KET  
Last month

Oof

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D2.0  
Last month

I have to think fatigue got Melbourne in the end.

If they get Prather back healthy, and they get their shit sorted at the 4, they are going to be scary good.
Clearly the plan is to go back to Barlow, and hope he can somehow find his form from this time last year. Not sold on that idea. Of the options they have, I think JLA is a better season-long prospect. Or at the very least, manage Barlow's minutes better. 28 minutes for a guy who was clearly struggling.

Is it too late for them to get a Next Star PG? Cos Ili is a spud.

I'm still not sold on Hunt. Had a great game, but we still looked undersize inside.

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D2.0  
Last month

NB: Can somebody please explain to SBS how streaming is supposed to work, and what the term "On Demand" actually means.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hunt +12, Long minus 10. JLA ain't the answer. Melbourne got defensive problems.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last month

Jesus, Hunt with 7 assists!

Didn't watch the game. How did he rack them up?

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proud  
Last month

What an exciting finish, couldn't help but think what a difference Prather would mean to United in crunch time, surely they don't play Ili down the stretch, I know he's a good defender but he's hardly got the clutch gene.

As a Wildcats member, it still feels like we are a piece missing from our squad and I don't think our reliance on Wagstaff in second halves is the answer. I'm a massive Steindl fan but he needs to let more go, otherwise he is a liability.

Norton looked really good today and I hope he can stay aggressive throughout the season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Let's not forget Perth was playing D with 5 team fouls for the last 8.5 mins of the last quarter, Hunt was in foul trouble all game (dubiously i thought, but new import centre needs the treatment), maybe we should not judge their defensive performance out of context. Although hunt does have a tendency to step aside and ensure he doesn't pick up another foul.

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Another Anon  
Last month

No game replay anywhere yet. This year's broadcasting is a disgrace

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Anonymous  
Last month

"How did he rack them up?"

Generally by passing to a teammate who was in a scoring position, resulting in a made basket.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Trev would have to be happy about us playing "Wildcats basketball" to get that win that probably should have been a loss. Love the fight in this team.

Really nothing for United to worry about though considering the circumstances. They're going to be insane once the jetlag is gone and Prather is back.
Cats are lucky to have had 2 of their games vs Melbourne already, and not going 2-0 is an opportunity lost.

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D2.0  
Last month

"As a Wildcats member, it still feels like we are a piece missing from our squad and I don't think our reliance on Wagstaff in second halves is the answer. I'm a massive Steindl fan but he needs to let more go, otherwise he is a liability"

I think we have a great squad, I'm just not convinced the balance is right. Vague continues to show great potential, but I'm not sure playing him at the 5 is the answer.

Steindl is getting worse. He seems stuck in a "Corner-Shooter" mentality. He's actually very effective when he attacks the basket, as he has the height to make his lay-ups (and even pull-ups) easily. But too often, his only instinct is to prop and throw up bricks from outside.
At other times, even when there's a fast break on, he runs straight for the corner. Great if he was shooting like Gaze, but he's so hit & miss, that opponents are prepared to sag right off.

What I do like, is that instead of going to the tip and scabbing amongst the same old recycled players, we've actually backed some youth for our bench fillers. I was excited to see what Wani could provide this season, hopefully some excitement off the bench, but I guess we have to wait for that.

On the squad, I'd be interested to know who our 6th man is for salary purposes. I'd have thought that with their re-signings, Damo and Wagstaff would now be down to bench salaries, making it easy to comply with the bench-cap.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Prather has had a knee injury for over one year and now just had an operation. Will he get back is the question and he's on big big bucks. Will United have the balls to cut him if he doesn’t get up in the next few weeks.

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Haz  
Last month

6500 in attendance. A bit low for a Sunday game for United, even moreso considering it was against Perth.

Something to worry about, considering the Phoenix entering was always a possibility to take some United fans away, or were there other factors?

Being 0-2 shouldn't be a reason.

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Perthworld  
Last month

I don't think United realised they could've gone for two.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Was no time to shoot the two, made no difference. It was three or nothing.

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D2.0  
Last month

"Was no time to shoot the two, made no difference. It was three or nothing"

I don't know, that's similar to the way the first game ended. Perth hit the lead with 11 seconds on the clock. And in both cases MU failed to put up a decent shot.
But 11 seconds should be more than enough time, especially considering Perth would do anything to avoid fouling.

Ultimately it was just a bad use of a timeout by Vickerman. Planned one play, and then they didn't seem to know what to do after that.
Whereas Cats knew exactly what they were doing, run the clock down, then make the bucket.

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Lovebroker  
Last month

Ummm..it was 4.5 seconds after Cotton hit the long 2.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Exactly ^^^ only shot left was three pointer.

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Anon  
Last month

The problem continues to be turnovers from Trimble, costing united every game. Don't focus just on the last min.

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Camel 31  
Last month

Seems unlikely that was travel. Long at end of game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why was it unlikely? It either was or it wasn't.

Whats the story with the refs over-ruling White's late game three to a two based on one completely inconclusive replay...

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Anonymous  
Last month

It was a blatant travel. The commentary are just useless.

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koberulz  
Last month

How was it inconclusive? It was obvious from the replay. I thought it was a two live, as well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Haz, great point that no one wants to talk about on here. NBL's business case (LK's) was for the league and its teams to stand on its own 2 feet without him tipping in piles of cash by 2020. First 4 years were gilts and glamour, a showcase, nothing spared. LK and team did an awesome job lifting the profile and convincing everyone that it is the second best league in the world (nonsense, but go with it). Now, poor marketing, procurement decisions, terrible TV production and commentary are exposing exactly where it is at. Sustainable? lets wait and see, some worrying signs. Early days, but we have seen this film before and it doesn't end well. Just saying...

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Craig  
Last month

Anyone who think the Long travel call was incorrect needs to take off their eye patch, commentators included. Easy call and if it was Hunt he would have been called for a travel and offensive foul.

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