Jack Toft
Earlier this year

Bullets v Cats Jan 5

I'ld like to think this game would be close, but the Jeckyl and Hyde nature of Brisbane means that they could win any game they want, and on the converse lose any game they should win.

Last time they played in Brisbane, Brisbane won by 9 points. In Perth, Perth won by 8. Which Brisbane team will roll up today? Perhaps the most interesting part of this game is seeing two coaches strut along the sidelines being more animate than a drama coach on crack. Who will be the most agitated and who will be the first one to get a tech?

You would think the Cats might just sneak a road win today....

Cats by 2

Topic #46663 | Report this topic


Perthworld  
Earlier this year

The drama coach teaches the private school girls of the other game thread.

Reply #784483 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Perth by 7

Reply #784485 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Are mods deleting comments that aren't pro-Jack?

Reply #784490 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No they're not. My bad.

Reply #784491 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cats easy, Magnay on Kay will be interesting. Patterson is class but to many average players around him. Perth by 12.

Reply #784498 | Report this post


D2.0  
Earlier this year

It's crunch time for Perth.
They let top spot slip with a mediocre performance against Adelaide. If they want to cement top-2 and have another crack at first they have to start winning these "winnable" games.

It will be interesting to see the tactics, and whether Andre persists in starting Magnay and Hodgson together. And is so, ow he plans to go at Jook and Hunt. Getting those guys into foul trouble early is one of the keys to containing Perth. (Along with the obvious limiting Cotton and White.)

Another big game for Norton. He did well against Adelaide, so the battle against Sobey & Spudey will be telling. The starting PG role is his to lose.

Reply #784509 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

A win here keeps Perth in striking distance of top spot with 5 of the past 7 games after this being home games.

Now would be a great time for Kay to return to form.

Reply #784515 | Report this post


Ben  
Earlier this year

Bullets to lose.

Andrej to give usual post game statement of "we were getting good looks but just didn't make them".

Reply #784519 | Report this post


Another Anon  
Earlier this year

Cats to show up and cruise home by 10-15

Reply #784549 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Heal already told us how good Cadee and game hasn't started.

Reply #784568 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

He is certainly rather fond of Cadee for some reason.

Reply #784571 | Report this post


Perthworld  
Earlier this year

It's obvious no one reviews what these commentators say. So unprofessional.

Reply #784572 | Report this post


Ben  
Earlier this year

Is Heal Magnay's agent? Legit question.

Reply #784573 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

He labels Cadee a star point guard lol.

Reply #784574 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Homicide:
Steindl back out there after been out with injury a few weeka

Wagstaff needs to be that legit third option for Perth

Two absolute stunners
You are paid by the NBL, at least do some prep and research.

Joining others and game is now on mute,

Reply #784575 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

If your partner giving birth is classed as an injury then yes Steindl was injured.
Homicide what a Dickhead.

Reply #784578 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

When Heal questioned why he said Wagstaff and not Kay, he responded with "have you seen Kay today?"

Kay was Perth's leading scorer at that stage, and was the one keeping them in the game.

Reply #784581 | Report this post


Dan & Mody  
Earlier this year

The most irritating part about the commentary team is when Cadee hits 3 or 4 in a row he is a star but last week when he hit 1 no one calls him out.... But Heal in the game before this Roberson hits 4 but "should go to the paint more" Double standards for his love child's..

Reply #784582 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

He also just started talking, whilst his mic was above his eyes... he's a true pro

Reply #784583 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Shane heal just called Cadee a superstar

Reply #784584 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hammer definitely is infatuated with Cadee. It's a bit weird. Good player, have to respect his range, but Shane does love him a bit much.

Reply #784585 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Isn't he his manager or something?

Reply #784586 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Trev & Andrej starting to warm up now

Reply #784590 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Two worst commentators together, not a good option. Heal must be Magnay agent.

Reply #784592 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Let's just get Dwayne Russell for the commentary trifecta.

Reply #784594 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Perth ain't winning a title with Hunt.
There's always next year.

Reply #784595 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Geez Perth really aren't that good this season. Not by their standards anyways.

Reply #784596 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Gotta start talking not so much about who locks for the playoffs are, but which of the "big three guarantees" are the most inconsistent, Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? Any can win or lose to anyone on any night, and even in wins, more often than not they are far from convincing. What is worse, losing or Cairns and Brisbane after beating Perth in Perth, or losing to Adelaide and Brisbane after beating Sydney in Sydney?

Reply #784597 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Set high standards dude.

Reply #784598 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brisbane too big. We start majok and go down 10 real quick. Hunt is marginally better at least he has some explosiveness and looks to score. Why have an import big if you're not going to start him. Also norton is doing his best to mirror Martin, clanking wide open threes then goes camping inside the keyway because he doesn’t want to continue clanking.

Reply #784599 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cotton close to the most overrated import we have in the NBL. He is good, but not on the level that people suggest.

Reply #784600 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Patterson is the James Harden of the NBL the way he plays

Reply #784601 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cotton overrated? lol. Okay.

Reply #784602 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where is that bum who said Harry Froling was better than Magnay?

Reply #784603 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Gleeson experiment of going small...small is why we are in this hole.

Reply #784604 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Magnay defacates on Froling.

Reply #784605 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If steindl could just settle instead of rushing every 3 maybe he would hit a few more

Reply #784607 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Really happy with this result. Don't care for Brisbane, but truly dislike the cats fan base. So this is always a nice way to end the weekend.

Reply #784608 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Fucks Adelaide so I'm happy too..

Reply #784609 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth lose again. Unlucky. Most experts here wrong again.

Reply #784611 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wildcats should try get machado and magney to replace Martin and hunt for next season.

Reply #784612 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Terrico looking tired and disinterested. Wildcats lacking an energy player that can spark the team. They all look flat today and unable to stop the Brisbane penetration and easy offense.

I dont think Ive stopped watching this many games of the cats in years. They seem to get into a large deficit very easily in many games and have stale offensive capabilities.

If their 3s are not going in, its over and by a large margin.

Reply #784614 | Report this post


Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Surely Hunt is gone now? Otherwise we aren't serious about winning this season.

Reply #784615 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wildcats are not winning with majok as the starting center. He is a backup at best, hunt on the bench as our import Center makes no sense. If we are keeping him he should be starting. This Center problem leads to Gleeson trying to experiment with these small ball lineups where we just get beaten up.

Reply #784620 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year


Melbourne United should be nervous. All that money to not make playoffs. Would be funny if Perf get overrun too

Reply #784621 | Report this post


Btown  
Earlier this year

No answer for Patterson and cats looked off all game. Terrico was not just poor shooting but turned the ball over mercilessly early on.

Reply #784623 | Report this post


Cats for life  
Earlier this year

I've said about hunt 4 game's in! No scoring in put plus damo in the starting 5 basically had cotton, kay and white.

Same shit with Cook jnr had the chance and didn't! People say Perth are loaded with cash but fuck me I don't know where it goes other than the big 3?

Win they win they look good but to many away games in a row this season and they look cooked again the past few game's.

Reply #784624 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Wildcats lacking an energy player that can spark the team."

McVeigh is available, says Joey

Reply #784625 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hey, I'll have you know Adelaide don’t need to rely on other results to be screwed! They do it themselves!

Reply #784627 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cats can only win when they get 70% of refs calls, Gleeson was not his active yelling self and Brisbane win.

Reply #784628 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes cats for life, most teams look good, when they win.

Reply #784629 | Report this post


Scout  
Earlier this year

Magnay is a gun.


Interested where he will be next year

Reply #784632 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Agree with my bro Hunt has to go.
Would need a replacement NOW with 7 games remaining.

Reply #784634 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cats wont do anything, they only got Cotton after being bottom of the ladder that season and cut Johnson. Too late really to pull the trigger, needed to do it more than a month ago.

Reply #784635 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Then Perth obviously don't care about defending the championship.

Reply #784636 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Scout mate we are all interested in where Magnay goes.

Reply #784637 | Report this post


Dan & Mody  
Earlier this year

Love this forum. So predictable.

"Cats can only win when they get 70% of refs calls, Gleeson was not his active yelling self and Brisbane win"

FYI its not Gleeson that is the only one that sooks at every call (Shamir, Vickerman, Mitchell, Lemanis, Wright, Weaver, Kelly say Hi)

Yawn.....

Reply #784638 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Should Flynn say hi or has he been ostracized.

Reply #784641 | Report this post


Vodka63  
Earlier this year

Is it just me or is Norton hugely over rated? The commentators talk about him being aggressive but to me it looks like he just charges into the paint and throws up a prayer hoping for a foul. He also doesn't seem to be particularly creative at bringing others into the game. I’m hoping next year we go for an import starting PG assuming Martin either retires or comes off the bench. No use wasting an import spot on a big to sit on the bench.

Reply #784643 | Report this post


Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Imagine if Perth gets Magnay for next season

Reply #784646 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Norton is very overrated, but there are many more overrated in the NBL than him.

Reply #784647 | Report this post


Ben  
Earlier this year

Being a genuine local, hopefully Magnay stays in Brisbane.

One of very few bright spots the franchise has going for it.

Reply #784648 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Imagine if Perth gets Magnay for next season"

Yeah, and imagine is Cairns get Kobe. See how that works? Imagination is the key to creativity.

Reply #784649 | Report this post


Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Terrico has low basketball IQ, he can't count the number of Brisbane players in front of him so carelessly dribbles the ball on the court resulting in a turnover. Terrico is too lazy on defence.

Norton is way overrated, but he is way better offensively than Martin. Norton should just dribble inside the arc and put up jump shots. Norton is mediocre on defence except last game for a bit. Norton has no confidence taking 3 pointers and can't finish at the rim.

Clint us ok. But like to see his best his man off the dribble more and go inside for more 2 point jumpers. Clint isn't a defensive player at all.

The Wildcats game plan isn't flexible enough to do adjustments when the opposition has done their adjustments.

Cotton should be more selfish when the game is being taking away from the Wildcats. Jordan demanded the ball when the Bulls were in trouble.

Hunt is serviceable but needs to fly for rebounds and finish. He grabs the ball yet can't jump back up for the finish.

Reply #784650 | Report this post


Ben  
Earlier this year

@Vodka63, I agree on your Norton call - spot in with everything.

Good bench guy to have and give you 15-20 minutes, but not a game changer by any means.

Reply #784651 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Or Adelaide make playoffs lol. Imagination is fine, but lets not mix it up with reality

Reply #784652 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wait, Perth Wilburs, did you seriously just compare Bryce f'n Cotton to Michael GOAT Jordan? Wow. Seen it all now.

Reply #784653 | Report this post


Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Anon, if Perth Wilburs compared Bryce Cotton to Michael Jordan in the sense that they are the leaders of their respective teams, guys who can create their own shot and carry their team offensively, then yeah that comparison is spot on

Reply #784655 | Report this post


Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

#653 no. I'm saying Cotton needs to demand the ball more.

Reply #784656 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yep Cotton just needs to do what the greatest scorer of all time did and his team would lose much less games

Reply #784658 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So Manu Fieldel, essentially what you are saying is Bryce Cotton IS Jerome Randle then?

Reply #784659 | Report this post


Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

And demand the ball so he can score at will in a league he completely dominates? Yeah you're exactly right anon. Now you're catching on

Reply #784660 | Report this post


Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

You got it in one!

Reply #784661 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Wait, Perth Wilburs, did you seriously just compare Bryce f'n Cotton to Michael GOAT Jordan? Wow. Seen it all now"

Apparently you haven't seen much at all because that clearly isn't what he said.

Reply #784664 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Maybe if Perth didn't overpay for both Cotton and Kay they would have some cash to fill out the rest of the roster.

Reply #784666 | Report this post


Dan & Mody  
Earlier this year

Flynn gets dispensation (first year and all that..)

Reply #784668 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth second on the ladder, still not playing well consistently ,yet they need to blow it up...

Reply #784687 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ofcourse they don't need to blow it up. BUT out of the playoff teams, right now, they look the weakest. That is some reason for concern.

Reply #784688 | Report this post


AngusH  
Earlier this year

Perth will sink or swim with Cotton and White come playoffs. Luckily for Perth, they fire far more often than not.

Reply #784692 | Report this post


D2.0  
Earlier this year

"Is it just me or is Norton hugely over rated? The commentators talk about him being aggressive but to me it looks like he just charges into the paint and throws up a prayer hoping for a foul."

Mmm, I hate it when he does that. needs to iron that out of his game.

It's actually hard to fault individual Cats players, some just a bit off their game. Overall defence was not where it needed to be, especially te failure to contain Patterson.
And the 3-oint shooting, God help us. Somehow the cats have morphed into the team that lives or dies at the 3-point arc. A risky strategy at best, and clearly failed miserably tonight.

I don't mind Norton, but the problem is we currently have no backup, so so we end up with Cotton and White running the point, which seems to limit them in other areas.
When Martin retires, Norton will either be starting PG, or playing elsewhere. No point bringing in a 30 minute gun PG, AND wasting money on Norton.

Besides, the biggest challenge remains doing something with our Starting Centre position.
We've currently got an import Centre who is undersize, has no range, can't start games because he gets into foul trouble, and can't finish games because he can't shoot f/t's. Definitely need to upgrade him for next season.

Cats have shown that on their day they can beat anyone. That makes for an interesting play-offs.
But they need to get rid of these inconsistencies. It's already cost them top spot, and MU & Cairns are nipping at their heals.

Reply #784693 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

In the NBL any team can win on their day. The point is there was a time, when the cats were a dominant force that just won. They've certainly come back to the pack, makes for a great finals series to come.

Reply #784698 | Report this post


raas  
Earlier this year

I personally like Nortons drive move, unfortunately it seems this season he hasnt been as confident with it. Lately he has stopped dribbling when inside and getting stuck, instead of dribbling back out of the key if the shot isnt there.

Terrico needs to start playing like a forward and do some driving, so lazy.

Sadly Hunt doesnt seem to be performing and might have to go, Majok Majok is playing great - im not sure why he doesnt get more minutes.

Vague is completely lost on me... I dont see what he contributes at all.

Reply #784699 | Report this post


Anon  
Earlier this year

Vague is vague. Team him up with cadee.
Vague cadee add froling Milner smith and teys for bit of glue.
Bound to over achieve as expectation be exceptionally low.
Guess could have egg on faeces if cadee 3 bombs.never know as sometimes dreams are just fantasy.

Reply #784723 | Report this post


UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

"Guess could have egg on faeces if cadee 3 bombs.never know as sometimes dreams are just fantasy."

“Egg on faeces”? Troll level auto co-wreck???

Reply #784726 | Report this post


Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Each to their own.
Quite a fantasy.

Reply #784732 | Report this post


Camel 31  
Earlier this year

Refs. Perth lost. Bloody refs. Refs-Easterners. Refs
Paterson is protected by refs. Refs

Reply #784734 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why didn't either Perth or Melbourne double team Patterson instead just standing by while he destroyed them

Reply #784761 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Refs. Perth lost. Bloody refs. Refs-Easterners. Refs
Paterson is protected by refs. Refs"

Who blamed the refs? Literally no one.

Reply #784762 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No one blames the refs, Cats just not used to playing with even calls.

Reply #784773 | Report this post


Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Why didn't either Perth or Melbourne double team Patterson instead just standing by while he destroyed them

Perth barely even single-teamed him
:/

Reply #784778 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

We've currently got an import Centre who is undersize, has no range, can't start games because he gets into foul trouble, and can't finish games because he can't shoot f/t's. Definitely need to upgrade him for next season.

That above comment makes you wonder how Gleeson hired hunt after Cooke Jnr debarcle. His lack of fundamentals for this league, should never have been hired in the first instance. Lazy/Budget recruiting by the wildcats.

Reply #784786 | Report this post


Zodiac  
Earlier this year

It's always interesting to hear Cats fans put shit on their own team's recruiting, the most team with around twice the amount of championships as the next best team in NBL history.

Cotton is on superstar money, White would be on close to that too very good money regardless and they had to pay overs for Nick Kay to get him to come over. After that there wouldn't be much left to throw around which is why their import big is usually a very limited player because they would be coming relatively cheap.

It's not like cheap import bigs like McKay, Cooke or Hunt has stopped the team from being successful right?

Reply #784791 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Dominant teams dont stay dominant if you get compliant on success, the talent in this league has moved on from what it was a few years ago.

Some facts:
* Their core which include guys like Knight, Hire etc.. are gone. I would argue in his prime Matt Knight had better rebounding, defence and scoring threat than Kay
* Martin looking his age and not really shutting poeple down like he used to
* League has moved away from low scoring games to higher scoring . You need to have teams who can light it up. Take Cairns as example where affordable roster built that way is lighting it up.
* Cooke Jrn was part of a failed campaign, if success if getting to finals and then exiting the first round then he was a good hire. If its a championship then it was a fail move
* Cats dont seem to be renewing their mid experience talent, we have bunch of old guys whos better days are past them and some total newbies who wont get enough court time or minutes to develope at Perth (e.g. Sunday Dech)
* Basketball internationally has moved away from the old centre like Hunt, cats should of looked for someone with either a decent mid range shot and preferrably a three.
* When your light on talent you dont hire an import than some games plays less than 10 minutes. It just shows the person was not a good fit for the team or league play style

When cats have lost this year in most cases it has been a slaughter, ive lost track how many games I turn off the tv when they play so poorly. They could easily lose most of their games from the finals. if their 3 dries up its over red rover.

The old cats rarely got routed , it was usually a close knit affair

Reply #784796 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Zodiac, everyone puts shit on Perth. Their own fans demand success every season, and people that hate them scrutinise every player and decision they make so they can predict this is the year they don't make the playoffs.

Reply #784806 | Report this post


Zodiac  
Earlier this year

I mean as a Sixers fan I would love to have the Wildcats recruiting problems seriously. If we had to put up with watching a crappy import big whilst winning the title like 2 out of every 3 years I reckon I would take that.

Reply #784808 | Report this post


D2.0  
Earlier this year

Zodiac, its hard to comment specifically without knowing the full story. It's particularly hard with Perth because Trev will say he's targetting X, but then hire Y.
Maybe Hunt is a bargain who had to fit within the 5-man cap?? I don't know. It's not clear to me what guys like Martin, Norton, and Wagstaff are getting. If that's the case, then he's good value, but hopefully things change next season.
My personal view is that he is undersized, and that contributes to his foul trouble. Clearly he's a step backwards from Brandt, but maybe that was warranted and necessary.
He has been improving as the season progresses.

Reply #784810 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You must be watching a different Hunt because his size has got nothing to do with his foul trouble, and he is certainly not improving as the season goes on.

Reply #784914 | Report this post


Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hunt got called out Heals show today, showed as being a lazy defender in a number of plays.

Reply #784957 | Report this post


D2.0  
Earlier this year

"You must be watching a different Hunt because his size has got nothing to do with his foul trouble"

His being "undersized" is my personal opinion, others may differ.

"Hunt got called out Heals show today, showed as being a lazy defender in a number of plays. "

He's a poor defender, and he commits sloppy fouls which mean he has to back off more.

In regards to his size and fouls, yeah, I guess I am talking wild hypotheticals, as in "if he were a bigger player, he would play differently"
Which I concede is not really much of a point at all.

Let me put it this way:
He's too small to defend the really big slow 5s,
and he's too slow and sloppy to defend the smaller quicker 4s.

"certainly not improving as the season goes on"
Part of it is that Trev is limiting his use, and getting better value out of what he can.

Perth has already hit 21 games, so barring an announcement in the next 24 hrs or so, Hunt is here for the season.
But I would not expect him to return.

Reply #784959 | Report this post




 

Reply to this topic

Random name suggestion for anonymous posters: Ceres 46

Rules:You must read the Terms of Use. No spam, no offensive material, no sniping at other clubs, no 'who cares?'-type comments, no naming or bashing under 18 players. Learn how to embed YouTube videos or tweets

Please proof-read your post before submitting as you will not be able to edit it afterwards.



Close ads
PickStar - The best place to book sports stars
Punch - insightful time tracking
Dunk.com.au - Custom basketball uniforms

Advertise on Hoops to a very focused, local and sports-keen audience. Email for rates and options.

Recent Posts



Invoicing clients? Stay productive with Punch, the insightful time tracker that earns you more.

Special offer: $30/month Pay $100 for lifetime access. Sign up now!

.


An Australian basketball forum covering NBL, WNBL, ABL, Juniors plus NBA, WNBA, NZ, Europe, etc | Forum time is: 8:12 am, Wed 8 Jul 2020 | Posts: 838,298 | Last 7 days: 919