Luuuc
Years ago

Opals - Olympic Qualifying Tournament

Schedule:
Feb 7, 4:00am AEDT vs France
Feb 9, 6:30am AEDT vs Puerto Rico
Feb 10, 12:00am AEDT vs Brazil

* All games live streamed on FIBA's YouTube channel
* Opals need to finish top 3 to qualify

Team:
Leilani Mitchell
Katie-Rae Ebzery
Nicole Seekamp
Stephanie Talbot
Lauren Nicholson
Rebecca Allen
Jenna O'Hea
Alanna Smith
Ezi Magbegor
Cayla George
Marianna Tolo
Elizabeth Cambage


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Anonymous  
Years ago

If they're genuinely the 2nd best team in the world, they should do it easy.

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

So from Asia cup:

Blicavs, Bishop, Garbin out

Cambage, Smith, Tolo in

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Anonymous  
Years ago

much better team than Asia cup and should be an improvement on pre Olympic qualifying.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Need a good showing, losses to China, Japan etc.
We've been terrible in the last year, want to see massive improvement.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When is Wallace healthy?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You would think this will also be the team for tokyo providing all stay healthy. This will be a good test.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

I just hope Brondello gives everyone a fair run.
Pity we've got France first up, because I'm guessing she'd rotate more freely if we already had 2 wins under our belts by the time we played them.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hope Wallace replaces Seekamp, not sure where she'll get the playing time. Nbl1 maybe. Would have to kill it in the first 3 months.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace was drafted. If she reports to training camp and plays well in the first half of WNBA, she has every chance.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think Atlanta will bring her in.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wnba starts in may, Tokyo training in June.
Not happening. It's nbl1 for 3 months or no hope of Olympics.

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anon  
Years ago

Wallace has also not had any playing time in the last 2 years, you cant call the three games she played with Canberra before the second ACL court time, she was still on limited minutes. Hanging too many hats on a player that has yet to really prove their worth at senior level

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'd be taking Kunek if they don’t qualify for 3x3 and id also be taking griffin, pushing out Mitchell.
Smith has shown glimpses, so too Magbegor but still neither ready for big minutes. George is a liability on d, so too Mitchell and Seekamp.

Ebzery goes back to sRrting like at WC. Choice of Seekamp, Lavey, Wallace, Mangakahia as backup. All 4 should be healthy by June-July.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why would Lavey be in the team?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No pgs beyond what's on the list and who’s injured.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey has not impressed this season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, we need pgs and sgs desperately.

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ahmed  
Years ago

Shyla Heal should be in this team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not ready by a long shot.

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Anon  
Years ago

Heal is years off , just because she has connections doesn't mean she’s ready for big ball lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tier 1
Mitchell / Ebzery / Seekamp - current opals pgs.

Tier 2
Wallace / Mangakahia - unproven but on the fringe
Lavey / Tupaea / Mansfield / Clydesdale - had chances but failed to capitalise. Some Injured at times of comp.

Tier 3
Rocci / Heal / Conti / Reid / Scanlon - some signs they can get to the senior international stage

Tier 4
Tessari / Elsworthy / Cubillo - doesn't look likely they’ll make the jump this early on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cassidy McLean is better than all of Tier 4.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

But a sg...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heal is also a sg. she is just trapped in a pg size body. Her last 2 games 54 points 1 assist.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Blicavs comes into the 12 as an injury replacement for O'Hea, who is expected to be out for 10-12 weeks :(
O'Hea Wrist Injury

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Losing Jenna is a big blow for both the Opals & Flyers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kunek busy during that time?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good question! Kunek is in great form atm

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Blicavs is in the squad of 20. Kunek is not she is playing 3x3 like Cole Garrick Froling

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't think 3x3 is at the same time as Olympic qualifiers though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kunek has played far better than Blicavs this season without question.
Sandy must have no faith in Kunek for what ever reason.
3x3 you picked because you can contribute, score, defense, screen etc. quickly.

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Anon  
Years ago

^Kunek plays for herself...not what a national team needs

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Kunek has 3 times more assists than Blicavs.
There's never been a shot that Sara doesn't like.
You need to remove those rose coloured glasses that you use when you are watching Sara play.
I watched Kunek during her Melbourne years and she was a total team player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Blicavs dominates bro. Southside are balling you can't deny that.

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Anon  
Years ago

"Blicavs dominates bro. Southside are balling you can't deny that."

Yeah, we can't deny that Southside is killing it. But what is Sara giving it. Southside has just about a national team.

She's not in the top 10 in scoring, ave is down on previous years, hasn't come up to her normal standard since her come back.

I've been following the posts about the two players and people need to look at it objectively.

Its always easy to play well in a team when its flying.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Player G eFG% TS% FTAr% 3PAr% %PIP %2CP ORB% DRB% TRB% ASS/TOV TOV% USG% GameSc
S. Blicavs 15 51.4 53.6 12.6 32.2 44.4 11.1 5.8 15.3 10.6 0.9 7.9 20.7 10.4
A. Kunek 15 50 55.9 37.4 32 43.6 11.1 3.2 9.5 6.7 1.1 11.5 26 12.1


Similar players. Alice has a higher usage rate (26% v 20%) as she is one of the main creators on her team. Sara is a 4th/5th option on her team and spaces the floor well and plays within the system.
Sara rebounds better and is a better defender. Sara's role on a team like the opals scales well with what she is currently doing. Alice is a good player although wouldn't be asked to create and would be a lower usage player with the Opals.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where do you get the stats on efg%, usage rates etc for the WNBL? Stats on the official site are garbage.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

They really are. It's a shocker of a website for even the most basic info.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The powers that be probably knew about the Alice injury before the decision was made.

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ANON  
Years ago

^ it's only just happened in the last game she played

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ Same weekend as O'Hea's injury where Sara was named as a replacement a few days later.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Kunek wasn't in the squad of 20 so she was never going to be brought into the 12.
It also seems like you can only be either an Opals player or a 3x3 player, not both.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cole was in the last camp to this current one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Olaf now the assistant?, wow what a disgrace. Left aus to coach Russia and failed dismally despite having a very good team, now back again. Should go to someone else imo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So, 3 AC's now, or has he replaced Goriss?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goriss still listed with chambers and lucas

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lucas gone

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Seekamp out of the team due to last night's injury
Nasty injury blow rules Nicole Seekamp out of upcoming Opals campaign — and possibly longer

The article also mentions that the Opals qualifiers will be shown on Fox Sports, which is nice news

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey or Mansfield, oh geez...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lavey in for Seekamp
Blicavs for Ohea



Mitchell / Ebzery / Lavey
Talbot / Nicholson
Allen / Blicavs
George / Smith / Magbegor
Cambage / Tolo

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Note that the tip-off times in the 1st post of this thread are incorrect. (First 2 game times should be swapped. Blame BA website for that).

The FIBA website is currently showing:

Opals-France
Thur 20:30 local = Fri 03:30 WST = Fri 06:30 AEDST.

Opals-Puerto Rico
Sat 18:00 local = Sun 01:00 WST = Sun 04:00 AEDST.

Opals-Brazil
Sun 14:00 local = Sun 21:00 WST = Mon 00:00 AEDST.


All games live on Fox Sports 505

Tournament website

Random news article: Opals' Cambage must defy niggling tactics

Pick and Roll preview: Breaking down the Opals' Olympic Qualifying Tournament

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely not our squad come Tokyo.

If Mitchell doesn't perform or smith / Magbegor. I think we will see griffin come in for one of them.
Ebzery promoted to starting pg, like WC and hope Wallace is fit n ready.
A healthy Ohea will push out Blicavs more so than Nicholson imo.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Surely the chances of Wallace playing in Tokyo are < 0.01% regardless of whether or not Mitchell makes the team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It has been a year since last acl for Wallace, so she should be at full fitness in the next month (March) or so if everything went to plan.
A good Nbl1 stArt could see her with a shot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nbl1 mid April start, Tokyo late July.
1/2 April, May, June, 1/4 July. That's a good solid 12+ games.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

And we seriously think that Brondello would/should pick someone for the Olympics based on nothing but a dozen NBL1 games?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That will depend on Mitchell's performances over the next couple months.
Brondello always said it’s difficult choosing between the 3 naturalised players.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Of course it's tough. All 3 would probably be starters if the rules allowed it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ugly ball, move te ball. Clearly brondello has no control over liz.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Holy crap do we suck.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ebzery !!! So many bad shots and turnovers

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ba should be wiped clean. No notification of this game on any platform. Fire everyone.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sandy has to go, this is beyond pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stop playing favs sandy, play Ezi and Nicholson...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ref taking over last quarter.
Liz with dumb fouls and in foul trouble whats new.
Talbot provides no offence
Sara Blicavs -13 in 6 minutes, god knows why Smith or Ezi dont get minutes.
game over

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Clean out coming hopefully.

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NoIdea  
Years ago

What chances do we have to medal in Olympics if we cant win Asia cup or beat France?

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anon  
Years ago

Would there be a little irony if the 3x3 team made the Olympics and the Opals missed?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kunek, Griffin in.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lazy

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Anonymous  
Years ago


Lucky we have Liz and Bec , rest not showing much I'm afraid

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Anonymous  
Years ago

it would be difficult to be playing at the equivalent of 4/5/6am in the morning after only 3 days to try to get over the jetlag.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Here come the excuses.

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Anon  
Years ago

And this is what happens when you have a coach who lives on the other side of the globe, she picks players who really shouldn't be there, simply because "she knows them", doesn’t play the younger fresher legs AT all, Ebzery is not a good choice for PG , she has far too many turnovers.

Tolo too slow, so too Talbot.


As for Wallace in the next team, dream on, she hasn’t played fir two years, and has yet to even sign with an NBL1 side, and agree with Luuc., why would any coach take a player coming back from injury with so few games, and lets just see how she even fares next to other NBL1 guards.

BA also need a full clean out, starting with Sterling, time she stepped away.

Euro and Asia ball is fast paced, Sterling and Brondello are old school slow ball .........and it’s showing

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Anon  
Years ago

Where was Smith?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Our best performing players in this team do not play in the WNBL, let alone NBL1. This is not a coincidence.

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NotGreat  
Years ago

Rightly so, the heat should be on Brondello. They pay her the big bucks and she's not getting the best out of this group!

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Anon  
Years ago

Brondello was the wrong choice for coach at the start, yes she's been a WNBA coach for a long time, but being on the other side of the world, and more committed to her WNBA than to her National duties from the very beginning was always going to be an issue

Allen was by far our best player, but she’s been stand out in most games this group have played as far as energy level and attitude to win .

Brondello runs the legs off players who really are teaching retirement age fir this game, and leave you g fresh legs that are more than capable of holding their own fir a while, sitting there. Why take them if you won’t use them

And if they do manage to get to the Olympics , it will be exactly the same again , she won’t change.

And this is Sterlings choices , picking her "old time" preferences, instead of looking at what’s best for the program .

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

Right on the precipice of disaster bow.

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

*now

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sandy is starting to make Joyce look like a hall of fame master Coach.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bringing in Olaf tells you everything you need to know. Time to go ASAP.

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+  
Years ago

never underestimate the advantage of a home crowd / court it adds so much. My observations over the last few years in womens basketball is the home teams seem to achieve so much more. Look at the Turkish womens team a few years ago in 2014. Spain 2018. I'm sure Japan has had a couple of significant wins in games at home the last few years. IMO - home court in International womens basketball = anything from an 10-20 point advantage.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can't wait to host an olympics again so we can medal.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Home crowd was good but their effect on the outcome has been overstated. I've seen plenty of complaints of home cooking but I thought the reffing was pretty solid. Actually Cambage was lucky not to be in early foul trouble I thought. Got away with a couple of early ones.

Close contest where Opals sloppiness was the main difference IMO, and that's very correctable. (Not surprising that a group who just rocked up in France a few days ago weren't as sharp as they needed to be).
SG spot continues to be problematic. Nothing against Talbot as a player but she's more effective as a 3 IMO. I hope Nicholson gets some court time in the next couple of games and has the confidence to look for her shot.

There's really not much at all between the 2-10th ranked teams these days. Losing to France is no surprise at all to me, and a medal in Tokyo is a long way from a given.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We did nothing right. Couldn't shoot, pass, defend, nothing...
Cambage and George bringing the ball up at least 10 times. What’s up with that? Why is this thing now. Poor coaching for sure.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brendan Joyce put it into our players heads that in order to play for their country, they had to stay home. Sandy hasn't said this, But she has a team who have only been playing in the WNBL for the past 6 months (or much longer for most of them) Are we really surprised that their lack of ability to match it with European and Asian teams has followed? Our most successful opals teams were filled with players that played internationally year round. Team chemistry is not the issue. Team depth, and ongoing experience and confidence playing the international game is the issue.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agreed. Every player in the French national team has been playing two games a week against the be players all over Europe. And better US imports. They were and are far more prepared than our opals. Lots of work to do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would be getting Kunek, Griffin, Wallace and Mangakahia In despite what other people say. Maybe Garrick also.
Ohea comes back from injury.
Lots more time for Nicholson and Magbegor.
George should be playing centre, not pf. Tolo looks done, out.
Blicavs not going to make it. Talbot sliding.
Lavey not necessary.


Out
Mitchell
Lavey
Talbot
Blicavs
Tolo

In - risky bringing young ones in but throw them in the deep end imo.
Wallace
Mangakahia
Ohea
Kunek
Griffin

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm not convinced Griffins body would hold up in tournament play. We rely on her to play big minutes and she won’t have week long breaks in between games in Tokyo to recover. We either keep Mitchell and use her as a scorer. Or bring in Whitcomb to spread the floor for Liz. Whether Mitchell or Whitcomb are hitting shots or not, they have to be guarded closely from 3.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell is a statue on defense, if she ain't drank g 3s she is worthless now.
Wallace is Elite at passing the ball into the post, 1 part of Mitchell’s game that has gone downhill.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Draining'

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do we really think Wallace hasn't skipped a beat having not played for 2 years? Right now Wallace is not even elite at running in a straight line. All you can do is give her an opportunity to prove herself.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'd be willing to do that given she’s a great defender, passer and shooter, tough cookie too. What we need, like Griffin, Kunek etc

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James Harvey fan  
Years ago

I don't get the obsession with rushing Wallace into the team. Yes, she is a legit talent but it would be difficult for a seasoned pro to step into the Olympics team after that long off the court, let alone someone who has literally played 2 games of professional basketball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wnbl form seems to mean very little in these tournaments.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We are going to beat Brazil and Puerto Rico, go to the Olympics and have a poor result. Coach will leave, new coach in, veteran players retire. New cycle begins. Try and build back up to a tip 3 nation but it becomes much more difficult.

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ANON  
Years ago

Neither Wallace or Mangakahia have played at senior level , college ball is totally different

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Anonymous  
Years ago

some friendlies before Tokyo would help sort that out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So what's the real difference between this team playing, and the team that won silver at worlds? Other than everyone being 1.5years older?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WC, no...
Mitchell, Nicholson, Blicavs. Tolo

We had..
Madgen, Whitcomb, Ohea, Bunton.

Who's better?
Mitchell over Madgen
Whitcomb over Nicholson
Ohea over Blicavs
Bunton over Tolo


The draw at the WC was super easy for us, Spain the only quality nation we faced on 5e way to the final.
Don’t think we would have made on the other side of the draw.
Beaten by China, Japan, France last few games with several other poor performances along the way in the last year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Whitcomb is one of the most intense high energy hard working players I've ever seen play. Just ask Seattle Storm. Considering the opals recent performances I think we have nothing to lose by giving her go. Her and Allen both play overseas and would be electric on the perimeter. She is currently killing it in both France and Euroleague

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Griffin is also. But I do agree Griffins body is not reliable. We need more speeds and fast paced players. Not sure what other positions we can get them from

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cole is an athletic, super speedy SG who is the top scorer for her WNBL ladder-leading team. This team includes one WNBA player and three Opals (one of whom is also a WNBA player), yet the closest Cole can get to the Opals is commentating their games on Fox Sports lol.

It's not like Sandy doesn't have other Aussie options to choose from, but she keeps just picking the same old people for her squads/camps.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Because they are dedicated to 3x3. Let's see what happens if they don’t qualify for3x3.

Most of the current players have become complacent and so they have no drive or desire. It shows, we need women with some balls, some kahonies like Griffin, Kunek, Wallace etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This Wallace stan is very persistent I will give them that

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace / Ebzery
Cole / Nicholson
Allen / Ohea / Kunek
Griffin / Magbegor / Smith
Cambage / George

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cole, Kunek, Garrick and Frolling have not chosen 3x3 over the Opals, they just haven't been selected for the Opals. Cole made one camp a year ago and was then cut, and the last time Kunek was involved with the Opals was the Comm Games.

If they were forced to choose between 3x3 and the Opals, maybe some or all of them would pick 3x3. However, none of them have been forced to choose because the Opals aren't interested in them!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Then sandy is pickin favs. Kunek andcole are the best 2 Aussie scorers in wnbl atm. Griffin best rebounder.
Havin Olaf around is not a good thing imo, he should not be there.

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anon  
Years ago


Anonymous
Today

This Wallace stan is very persistent I will give them that


LOL, yes they are, lets see if she still has what it takes when she finally plays again, thats providing her knee holds up. shes not played at senior level really anywhere yet, and sure she did well in college, but she didn't wipe the floor clean every game.

Right now Mitchell is still our best option for PG, she can score and she does play defense, but its her cool head that they need, she can steady the ship and get that bucket when they need it.

They have to stop this rubbish of Cambage and George playing PG bringing the ball down, its madness............and run the god damn bench


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Better ball movement, still crappy defense.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have the opals qualified now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nup, we need to beat Brazil.
Lose and we need Puerto Rico to lose also.
If We lose and Puerto Rico win, we're out. Brazil would beat us on head to head, we finish 4th. No Tokyo.

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Cool Howie  
Years ago

Australia were superb and ran Puerto Rico off the court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Superb? You must be kidding. We would lose to most of the teams that have already qualified. Puerto Rico and Brazil should be easybeats.

USA, Spain, France, Japan, China, belgium, Canada, Serbia without injuries all look better than us.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Finally caught up with the Puerto Rico game. IMO there's not really much you can read into it when it's such a one-sided contest.
I enjoyed Gwathmey's game, and got some lols out of the French crowd jeering Liz every time she had a sook - which was often. Awful to see Salaman go down with a nasty-looking injury.
Nicholson looked pretty nervous to me. I hope she gets some more minutes tonight and looks for her shot.

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Perthworld  
Years ago

Why is Liz Ellis on the Brazil bench?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Better test for Aus, Brazil fighting. Our defense is so bad, better off playing Allen at pf. Cambage with George togetherdoes bot work.
Why take smith if she was injured before hand?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Opals offence outside of Cambage & Allen is about as convincing as Monteiro's dribbling technique. Brazil having a real crack and good on em. Wish we were playing with their level of purpose.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dont need mitchell imo, Ebzery offers pretty much the same, slightly less outside shooting but more defense. Need Griffin in this team.
Talbot and Nicholson have been poor. Kunek should get a look, so too Cole, 3x3 results pending.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so if Australia loses to Brazil, France throws their game to Puerto Rico and Australia are out

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes.

Head to head first.
Points difference
Points for

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Liz got the crowd offside now...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It would end up

Rico 2-1
France 2-1
Brazil 1-2
Australia 1-2

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Luuuc  
Years ago

The power of Liz to unite people ... in support of her opponents. Shades of the 2018 world cup.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It would probably be good for Aus basketball if we get knocked out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Olympic qualifying in the balance now. Crowd fired up. France will lose for sure. Our guards are being slaughtered.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

leilani Mitchell stepped up at the end of the 3rd. Katie Rae with her typical brain fade under pressure.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sandy won't change, just like the mercury.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Anyone still doubting that Mitchell is clearly our best PG?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell havin a good crack at the end. Hasn't been herself so far this tourney.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wtf are u on about screen, china wouldn't make top 12... they have been very good since end of WC.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell
Cole
Ohea
Allen
Cambage

Ebzery
Garrick?
Kunek
Magbegor
George

Talbot
Tolo


Out?
Lavey
Nicholson
Blicavs
Smith

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Luuuc  
Years ago

We really know how to make hard work of this.
Credit where it's due - Blicavs played some good & composed minutes while many of her more experienced teammates were losing their minds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Geez, i hope we dont qualify for 3x3.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Congratz on qualifying, now alot of you should get cut...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a nail biter.
Leilani was huge, Liz stepped up. Sara did well.

So many spots should be open. Talbot, Tolo, Nicholson, Lavey, George.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tolo no way.
George no but only because there is no one else ready.
The rest yes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sandy with way too many excuses for me in the press conferences and interviews.

From the teams that have qualified, I can't see us beating more than half of those with the squad we have but also the lineups chosen.

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Cool Howie  
Years ago

RUN AT ME haters. Team has qualified for Tokyo despite you wanting them to fail.

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Red84  
Years ago

Great endorsement of WNBL by Canadian guard Kia Nurse in comments reported in FIBA website, following Canada's qualification for Tokyo. Extract:

"Suiting up with Canberra Capitals in the WNBL seems to be a great fit alongside her WNBA club duties with the New York Liberty and trying to break fresh ground with Canada.
"Australia is a really, really special place and it now holds special place in my heart," confirmed Nurse.
"I have loved both years that I have been there and the people are really great. It feels like a long way from home at times of course, but being an English speaking country helps me.
"As does the fact that we play less games than many leagues elsewhere and it has given me the chance to pick up more rest between playing for Canada and in the WNBA. But at the same time, still helping to develop my game.
"I honestly feel that playing in Australia has been one of the main reasons behind my jump forward between my first and second seasons in the WNBA - plus what I am now achieving with the national team," she added.

Give credit where credit is due. Others seem to acknowledge the value of our local league, despite its shortcomings.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's a crap league, you can’t even debate it. It has good players in it for sure but it has been run by imbeciles for a long time.
Handing it over to lk would be the first step to getting the wnbl back to where it should be.

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Red84  
Years ago

Easy to criticise, harder to do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's not difficult to livestream at all, yet they haven’t got it right all season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No mention of the level of competition though lol. He tv stats every game kinda give us an idea though!

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Luuuc  
Years ago

The level of competition is literally the least of the WNBL's problems IMO.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

btw usa almost lost to nigeria

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tokyo qualifiers current rank with trend

USA-1 (-)
Australia-2 (down)
Spain-3 (down)
Canada-4 (up)
France-5 (-)
Serbia-7 (-)
China-8 (up)
Belgium-9 (up)
Japan-10 (up)
Nigeria-17 (up)
Korea-19 (-)
Puerto Rico-23 (up)


I think only 2 teams,we could guarantee victory and that's the bottom 2, korea and Puerto Rico.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

I had to cap this one for the LOLs

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Standard FIBA refereeing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some interesting calls throughout... always happens though when you have refs from all over.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We are in trouble if sandy picks the same side, it's not just a lack of preparation.
Every team only had a few days before hand except Japan.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

So, we beat Brazil and made it through. We deserved to, although we need to improve a lot to challenge at the WC.

But ... F*CK Cambage irritates me!!!! She can never do any wrong in her mind, no matter whether it's a shove or a trip or a coathanger or a travel ... Her body language and facial expressions are what I’d expect from a spoilt little child. She irritates me even more than Redhage did! I’m amazed that she isn’t fouled off by halftime.

BA, please don’t ever use her as a role model in your advertising.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, no doubt she's toxic but if she wasn’t playing we would be obliterated. Carried us for years.

The post is in real trouble after Tokyo.
No more Tolo, George, bunton and potentially no more Cambage, Griffin also running on empty at 33-34y.o

Young guns in 2020 like Magbegor 21, Aokuso 22, smith 24, frolings 24, scherf 24, Garbin 26 are the next post players you would think.
Young Guards Rocci 22, Wallace 24, Mangakahia 25, Wehrung 25 should get there chances along with those already on the fringe.
We have a plethora of mid 20s sfs like Allen, Talbot, Blicavs, Kunek, Nicholson, Wilson to work with.
Not a whole lot of opals ready talent in college atm, Horvat, Sharp, Bibby and younger sophomores etc look way off the mark.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace is 24? Yikes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, Wallace is 96 born with back 2 back acls out of college. Pretty much 2.5 years offthe court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Liz is currently complaining about being on British Airways 1st class flight. Other opals delayed 24 hours in France.

The past Opals players must love how Liz has single handedly made the Opals the most disliked team in women's international basketball.

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Anon  
Years ago

Don't care how much people say "we need her" the fact remains, if she wasn’t in the team and made to be the focal point, they would play a different style of game, a much faster one, that would suit the new style of Asia and Europe.

Her behaviour both on and off the court is disgraceful, and I agree, BA should stop making her their poster girl, she’s no role model

But then I suppose when BA do F all to really promote their women’s basketball, she’s not really going to influence too many

Those that run Basketball Australia need to take a good look at the AFLW and the women’s Cricket, and learn how you actually can get women’s sport in the main stream media......their cricket awards last night on the television, it was like the AFLW, which is like the Brownlow. Huge gala affair.

BA have their WNBL awards behind closed doors almost, only those select few are permitted to attend, it’s held in some dingy pub or restaurant, middle of the day, casual dress.....way to go to get it in the public eye.

It’s all about appearances, those appearances bring in sponsors, and sponsors money helps keep the sport afloat.

They would rather have every tiny bit of media exposure slapped with Cambage giving her fake facial expressions, like she the only player they have.

Time to clean house !

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes , I too look forward to the new opals team beyond Tokyo with a new coach and with BA cleaned out.

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Agree on a new approach but I cannot see BA being cleaned out.

I think you'll find their focus is on networking at top levels of government and industry, getting money and media distribution, and being a power player in global basketball, in order for the sport in this country to survive. Sadly, if that means that they don’t need to be that savvy or experienced in basketball, or that they’re not aware of 'hidden’ Australians such as Thybulle, then we fans and players come way behind in their priorities.

That’s my perception, anyway: they haven’t shown much strength or direction in how they handled the Boomers issues, underperforming state organisations, quality + timely content on their website and in social media, ...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

With the Coronavirus pushing the Olympics back a year, it makes choosing the team much more difficult now. Those who were injured or ill now have a chance to make the team and the vets are another year older. Mitchell will be 36 and Ohea will also be getting up there at 34y.o.
The 3x3 ladies also have another year to make a case because they certainly have been overlooked by sandy for the last few tournaments.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely going with Whitcomb over Mitchell now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Then our starting point guard would be who?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who knows, not Mitchell based on form.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell 8.3ppg 41%fg% 2.3rpg 4.1apg 1.0spg 1.8to
Whitcomb 8.8ppg 50%fg% 2.4rpg 2.1apg 1.0spg 0.6to

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Anonymous  
Years ago

20pts for sami

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Seattle are cruising atm and great to watch with Ezi & Sami both playing significant roles.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Magbegor should start over George.
Whitcomb start at 2, can also play 1

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No one is playing internationally in the next 12 months least of all Asia

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell playin twice as many minutes as sami, stats not comparable

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FSTOS  
Years ago

Why would you say least of all Asia. Many countries in Asia have far less covid cases now than the USA and Europe and also have better controls in place.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thw olympics is a very similar format to what the wnba is playing at the moment. It is tournament play. Games played on minimal rest, starters expected to play big minutes. Its always been a reason KG23 has been a risk to select. Form is important, as is a players conditioning and durability. Sandy will select on what the team needs most. She has proven to select players based on balancing a roster rather than "current form".

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Anonymous  
Years ago

She has got it wrong every time though sandy.

It was not the WC team she selected, injuries forced her hand.
Olympic qualifiers showed that they sucked big time with her chosen squad. Mimicked the WC squad with Mitchell and they were outplayed, George was a statue.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

I agree. And have no doubt in 12 months from now our current favoured team will be even older and slower.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

China, Japan and France smoked us and we barely got past Brazil.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ebzery
Whitcomb
Allen
Magbegor
Cambage

+

Mangakahia or Wallace
Cole or Nicholson
Kunek or Ohea
Smith or Aokuso
George or Tolo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That bench you are suggesting would get smoked in international womens basketball lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

pretty sure it's an upgrade on Lavey and Madgen, the rest is the same. Talbot starts at the 2 with sandy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Averages mid season.

Mitchell 5'5(85-35) PG

28.7 min
8.5 pts
2.4 rbd
4.3 ass

39.7 > fair
73.7 ft 14/19 > fair
36.1 3pt 13/36 > fair


Whitcomb 5’10(88-32) SG

17 min
10.3 pts
2.6 rbd
2.1 ast

49.4 fg% > good
100 ft 16/16 > good
46 3pt 23/50 > good


Smith 6’4(96-24) PF

14.8 min
5 pts
3.2 rbd
1.5 ast

39.6 fg% > fair
66.7 ft 8/12 > bad
22.7 3 pt 5/22 > bad


Magbegor 6’4(99-21) PF

13.8 min
7.2 pts
2.8 rbd
0.3 ast

57.6 fg% > good
52.9 ft 9/17 > bad
50 3pt 1/2 > good

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Leilani still gets the spot for sure

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes, under sandy probably tokyo will be her last tournament.

Sami certainly having a much better season though

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I have to disagree, Leilani is doing a great job of running the show at Washington. Phoenix miss her ability to create for others out of the PnR

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Such a great job that the champions are 4 and 7

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They've lost 4 starters!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most teams are short handed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

4 starters including the MVP of the league, that's a little more than 'short handed’

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What has tst got to do with Mitchell? All her stats aRe down

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wnbl season will give her a guaranteed spot for Olympics, how can u not look good with 5 opals as ya starting 5 and one of the top 5 players on planet earth in Cambage

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Stats aren't everything

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another great game for Mitchell, 3/4/1 -19

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You're a bit creepy now with your Mitchell hate. Sami was -5 by the way in their unexpected loss without Sue Bird taking most of the heat. In reality, they should both be able to represent Opals because Mitchell should be classified as an Aussie due to her mother being Australian.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell's playing 29 mins a game. Sami and the other 2 wnba aussies are on 15 mins or less.
I like Mitchell, but she’s cooked. She played 1 great half against Brazil in qualifiers but sucked every other game. Has had 1, maybe 2 good games for Washington so far.
She was soundly beaten by epoupa, motohashi and oneill In OQ.

She might turn it around, but she hasn’t been great.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell is no wnba all star but on the other hand she is the only point guard that is international standard no one else is close. Sami is erratic and gets beaten on D just as much as Mitchell. Her idea of D is overplaying and getting beaten 9 times out of 10 but 1 time out of 10 she gets a deflection or steal and some people seem to think that makes her a great defender. Lets face it the opals are in trouble especially in the back court. We can cobble together a good starting 5 but to do well in a fiba tournament needs depth and we don't have it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

itll come down to the wnbl season and who's in form both at pg and sg.

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Anonymous  
Years ago


The starting 5 certainly needs to change from

Mitchell, Talbot, Allen, George, Cambage

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If George is starting, we're not even top 8

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Magbegor should start.

George or Tolo should be backup centre.

Be interesting to see if Aokuso can work her way into a spot sooner than later.

Cole and Kunek over Madgen and Talbot if 3x3 doesn't work out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes to all of that, except George should not be there at all, way too lazy on D, Tolo for sure. If only Sherf would lift her work rate, she could be behind Tolo. And, we've forgotten about Smith too. No room for George

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The future post for Aus is looking like

PF Magbegor/Smith/Garbin
C Aokuso/Scherf

Plus 1 newcomer to come through
A.froling possibly
Think Hannan had potential, Anstey maybe, greenslade in a few years, who else at least 6'4?



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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell n smith with good games today.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Both Mitchell and Ezi looked pretty crap today.
Ezi maybe not used to playing every second day and Mitchell had her worst season in a long time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mitchell playing her best game of season so far, already got 12 asts and 18pts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

She was awesome in that game which was unexpected because I thought games at the end of a compressed season would only get worse at her age. It has been a struggle for the aussies lately.

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