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LaMelo Ball done for the season

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/basketball/nbl/lamelo-ball-nbl-news-stats-injury-update-latest-illawarra-hawks-shutting-down/news-story/8013a5ec7305ce0e624f1e0cba42bb97?__twitter_impression=true

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Isaac  
Last month

" Ball had been out since December 8 with a bone bruise in his foot, and Jackson said that the conclusion from Ball's most recent visit to the doctor was that he’s “totally healthy," but would have to train for a further six weeks until he’s ready to play in games.”

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Zodiac  
Last month

Well I'm shocked!

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Aussie  
Last month

It's a shame but understandable.

Hopefully he provided the NBL with a pretty big revenue gain.

A great kid with plenty of talent.

Let's hope the NBL are in advanced talks with new (high level draft picks) next stars for next season

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hope all the jerks who dogged me for saying he want returning from day 1, hope you're enjoying this.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If you really did say he's "want returning" then yes, I am enjoying this.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So in the end, LaMelo played half a season for an estimated $500,000 (or possibly more). Did the NBL get the same amount back in value? Will they get what they're hoping for from the NBA draft buy out? Will throwing the Hawks season into disarray be seen as worth it?

A lot of this will inform how they move forward with the program.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No shit he wasn't coming back, don't lesson to carey William or same time Liam Santamaria , if you want straight talk lesson to trash talk podcast with Hooley and Felix von hofe , Hooley is a suck up and Felix tells how it is

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Aussie  
Last month

No shit he wasn't coming back, don't lesson to carey William or same time Liam Santamaria , if you want straight talk lesson to trash talk podcast with Hooley and Felix von hofe , Hooley is a suck up and Felix tells how it i

I have no idea what you have just said

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koberulz  
Last month

Completely healthy but six weeks away from being able to play?

Not buying it.

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robt  
Last month

I have no idea what you have just said

"lesson" = listen & "carey" = Corey. Not sayin' that'll help but worked for me.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Koberulz, your initially believed he'd play again, so you’ve been off with this.

Ofcourse he is fit, but just by simply saying, I’m good to go but don’t want to risk it, looks shit for scouts. By any means possible. Nba fans won’t care about this, and that’s all that matters along with teams.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"if you want straight talk lesson to trash talk podcast with Hooley and Felix von hofe , Hooley is a suck up and Felix tells how it is"

Felix Von Hofe is a tool. Hooley is Shane Heal's waterboy. There, I just told you how it is.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Completely healthy but six weeks away from being able to play?

Not buying it."

I think most people can see they are protecting him for the draft.

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rjd  
Last month

Isn't it basically breaking contract to not play when healthy? I am surprised that people are so understanding of this, whereas someone like Webster was heavily criticised for skipping off to China mid-season for extra money.

It probably helps that the higher Ball is selected in the draft, the better it is for the NBL's Next Stars program. From an outsiders perspective, the timing of Ball's injury coming immediately after mock drafts put him at #1 was always suspiciously convenient. Hopefully it is all genuine.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wow, they have said bone bruising. That certainly doesn't happen over night and can be career ending in fact. Clearly it was pre existing and with the added workload of the NBL it just exacibated the injury.

Good luck in the NBA with that hanging over your head. Once again it confirms that management didn't give a shit and simply wasted their money on an injured player.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ok thanks doctor

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thanks. It is something I have seen in professional sport and unlike you I know what I am talking about.

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Dave Q  
Last month

Does he skip to China after the NBL season for a short contract before the draft? I can't see him sitting around for 6 months doing workouts...

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Anonymous  
Last month

If Brooks hadn't gone down, would his stock have climbed so much since he was basically thrown in to play starters minutes when otherwise his minutes would have been way lower.

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Anonymous  
Last month

" and unlike you I know what I am talking about."

You actually dont.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Everyone knows more than you. Except stalking.

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Isaac  
Last month

You're getting caught up on the public message. Irrelevant if you're a doctor or seen an injury before. The story for clubs looking to draft him or trade for him is likely different.

The headline in the Illawarra Mercury is "Taking his Ball and going home".

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Anonymous  
Last month

Which is why they chose bone bruising, as its ambiguous enough to justify keep him out for the season, but not serious enough to impact his draft stocks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

As I said previously bone bruising can .be a very serious injury. But apparently some regard says I don't know w hat I am talking about. All good.

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Senator11  
Last month

I've had terrible bone bruising on my foot from coming off a bike on the road, it affected me being able to walk properly for 12 months, 2 years later and I have no issues with it whatsoever.

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Anonymous  
Last month

That's good for you. Some not so lucky. LaMelo could be in the unlucky category.

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ME  
Last month

Yeah, it's clear he could play if he wanted to but they're protecting his draft stock. Many were saying early in the season that he might be shut down around mid-season if his draft stocks look a certain way, and they do, so that's what happened. Skeptical that there even is an injury. It just seems too convenient.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"As I said previously bone bruising can .be a very serious injury. But apparently some regard says I don't know w hat I am talking about. All good."

You also said it was pre-existing, and playing in the NBL made it worse. How do you know this?

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Anonymous  
Last month

As I said previously bone bruising doesn't magically happen, it occurs over a considerable period of time. A training incident is very unlikely to cause bone bruising. If you had experience in this area you would know. Clearly you don't. Stop the trolling.
It also can be caused by a severe trauma and if that was the case at training they should have said so.

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Anonymous  
Last month


Wow, they have said bone bruising. That certainly doesn't happen over night...

You also said it was pre-existing, and playing in the NBL made it worse. How do you know this?

As mentioned by others, bone bruising can occur from a single incident. No reason for outsiders to conclude it was pre-existing.

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Anonymous  
Last month

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=134&contentid=514

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Anonymous  
Last month

Asking someone to explain how they diagnosed his bone bruising as pre-existing without a shred of evidence, is not trolling. I'd suggest you're trolling, because you keep hammering the same point home when you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

And as isaac said, the official announcement is bone bruising. The real situation could be something entirely different, so your comment about management wasting money on an injured player is probably off the mark too.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If LaMelo is happy to have bone bruising on his CV then great. Other than that I don't care what you think. Stop trolling Matt.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What??

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Anonymous  
Last month

did you spell "mate" wrong? haha

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All the best to him.
He made Hawks games more entertaining for me to watch now I don't bother.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I heard LaMelo got a pizza burn on the roof of his mouth and he's probably going to die. I've seen it before and he probably came to the NBL with it. Good luck in the NBA with a pizza burn Matt

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Luuuc  
Last month

I heard he got it at the Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria and only ended up in the NBL because he was trafficked here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I heard he's got NFI (no foot injury).

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Juce Brohnson  
Last month

hahaha gold

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PeterJohn  
Last month

"If Brooks hadn't gone down, would his stock have climbed so much since he was basically thrown in to play starters minutes when otherwise his minutes would have been way lower."

The minutes played scarcely changed as he was a starter all season. Ball was playing 30 minutes per game pre Brooks' injury and played 33 minutes per game after that injury.

The difference was that he took more shots after the injury (21.2 per game - 28% of the team's shots) than he did before it (13.4 per game - 18%). And his 3 pt accuracy improved from 18% to 30%. I imagine his rebounding numbers went up as well, but I didn't check those.

It's possible not having to share the ball with Brooks meant he picked up more assists and shots, leading to those couple of big games that preceded the end of his NBL season. Someone who's followed the Hawks' games this season might be able to comment? I'm just going off stats.

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Trevor Torrance  
Last month

Tell me this, why does he have a moon-boot on during the games, but all over IG yesterday, while he is feeding his horse, he has sneakers on?! Moon-boot nowhere to be seen!

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Anonymous  
Last month


Laughing at your own jokes. Oh dear.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"he has sneakers on?! Moon-boot nowhere to be seen!"

Because he has got over the injury, as per the article.

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Perth world cousin  
Last month

Ballgate

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Hey cousin where you been.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBL Twitter
@NBL
LaMelo Ball (@MELOD1P) has returned home to the US today where he will continue his rehabilitation from injury and prepare for the 2020 NBA Draft

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thanks for the memories Lamelo it's been the best season of NBL ever, now go get that number 1 draft position.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I thought he was injury-free. He just needed six weeks to regain his match fitness.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yeah that's what rehabilitation is.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I wouldn't call it rehab.

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D2.0  
Last month

I've had bone bruising. I'm no expert but in my case it was a result of a single blow.
It's a PITA, because once the soft-tissue bruising heals, everything seems fine, until you start using it normally, and it starts to hurt like hell.

Of course this also makes it the perfect injury to fake.
X-rays show nothing, you have full range of movement, and can even tolerate moderate usage. Plus once it eventually heals, there are no residual problems.

But I also don't have any evidence or first-hand knowledge regarding Ball.

That said, my suspicion is that if Illawarra weren't an embarrassing basket-case, and had managed to stay in play-off contention, we might have seen more of Lamelo.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mark's show the bone bruising.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Auocorrect is a butch. MRI's

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Anonymous  
Last month

Good luck to him, made the league better when he played. I'm tipping he’ll end up in the big smoke. He’ll be great for the knicks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I've had extreme bone bruise on my shin bone from a motor bike accident, it showed up on X-ray, the bone was full of blood hence the name bone bruise, it is very painful and took at least 6 months to start to feel useable again, then the rehab began for a year to build strength in my muscles again before I could do any type of sport.
And rehab comes after the injury has healed.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Good luck to LaMelo.

Hope the NBL experience was positive for him and more prospects will follow his steps.

Just not at the Hawks.

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