Isaac
Earlier this year

United vs Kings, SF Game 2

Melbourne had game one sorted until a 11-26 final quarter. Back at home, can they make amends? Or will Sydney prove too strong?

Your tips?

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I think the first 5 mins will be telling for Melbourne. Either that game 1 collapse has destroyed their will to compete, or they'll come out firing from the opening tip.

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Brad.  
Earlier this year

Still going with United but Goulding can't afford another rubbish game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

United have been mentally questionable all year. No way they are recovering from Saturday's meltdown. Kings by more than 20

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No real idea,
Melbourne have been good the last few game, refs are favourable to home teams, Long and Trimble looked great and Goulding can change games.

On the other side coin Sydney believe in their systems and that they are going to win. This will be a lot closer than most people think.

Still no idea. Kings in over time.

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Tribe  
Earlier this year

Will be pretty hard to come back after game 1's incredible choke. Not sure United can recover, but what i'd like to see is:

-Kidd given starter minutes
-Barlow given bench minutes and ideally not sighted in 4th quarter
-Goulding to NOT take fadeaway 3 point shots with 14 seconds left on the shot clock when leading comfortably in last quarter
-If Trimble is hot, don't bench him

If the above happens, they could take it to a 3rd game.

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George  
Earlier this year

@tribe.
Good call. How United blew that lead was unbelievable.
Trimble needs another big game. Leave him out there all game. Home court advantage. I never get it. It's a basketball court it’s the same length with hoops at either end. Sydney to use the fans as a motivator.
Sydney have to defend better early in game. It was embarrassing Saturday night.
Ware needs a big game for Sydney. He was rubbish the other night. Bogut needs to engage shooters in defense & not just let United shoot & collect the ball out of the basket.
Keep him off court as much as possible. Moves like a building.
Hope it’s a good game with refs having minimal impact.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Taylor warmed up with team if that means anything

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The United will start Kidd in place of Barlow.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Oh god, the Corey curse right on the tip off

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Looks like a healthy crowd.

Nothing better than NBL playoffs. Exciting!

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

United should get game 2, Sydney will be keen, but if they don't control the perimeter, that is where the Soy Sippers will get this one

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Tate is dirty.

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Tate should be suspended

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Ahhh there it is the soy reference. Better late than never!

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Serballin  
Earlier this year

Wtf casper didn't get credited with an assist on the kickout to tate for 3? Serves me right for betting on a market relying on nbl stat keepers to be accurate

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Kidd offensive foul, charge. Was no way a charge.

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George  
Earlier this year

Ware like Saturday shooting. 1/6 from field. 0/4 from 3 point range. Embarrassing shooting.

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LV  
Earlier this year

For a guy who copped so much criticism this season (most of it well deserved) Long is absolutely killing it in this playoff series

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LV  
Earlier this year

So far, Long showing Bogut who really deserved 2nd team all NBL

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Let's see if Long does it in the 4th Q, that's usually been his problem this season.

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Bogut is most effective off the bench. No wonder the NBA got rid of him. All hype and nothing else.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sydney look like shit again

Can't hit the side of a barn.

This series should of been over tonight.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bogut is washed

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Somebody once told me this was the best team in the history of the NBL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bogut is a joke.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Well, see ya'll Thursday, I guess. Kings playing like they thought United were just going to roll over

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bogut has been Melbourne's best.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Totally agree.Shouldnt even be considered for Boomers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Violet... ?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Ware stinking it up two years in a row at playoff time.

25pt+ lead for MEL? YESSSSSSSS. Please don't choke like last time. #AnyoneButSydney

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Melbourne got this, vickerman got Sydney worked out. Series over.

Melbourne v Perth again in the GF and Melbourne big chance of winning.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

United you idiots.

If only you had not choked in Game 1 you'd be booking tickets to Cairns or Perth.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bogut can tweet all he likes. He's done. They’re playing with only 4 on offence with him on the floor.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Has Lisch been back on since starting

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George  
Earlier this year

@perth wilburs.
Partly correct. Bogut is best on the bench. Keep him off the floor

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Cairns v Melbourne

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

United you idiots.

If only you had not choked in Game 1 you'd be booking tickets to Cairns or Perth.

This. What a waste. Utter morons.

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krayola  
Earlier this year

Well, if you thought Melbourne played like pussies at the end of game one, I present to you this Sydney Kings 2nd quarter.

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StatsMan  
Earlier this year

Lack of Defense is what is losing this game for Sydney. It is a one way highway, while their offence is crap they are getting a stop, and then getting assists in transition.

I have no idea why they arent playing Moller more minutes. He has clearly been their best defender all season by the numbers. I would take minutes off Bruce, bogut and play a combination of cooks, moller and Tate as small ball fast lineup.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Moller is probably still underdone after recovering from injury? Works for me.

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LV  
Earlier this year

If you removed the last 6 and a half minutes of game 1, Long and Trimble have 89 points to Sydney's 93 over this first 1.5 games.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

So what you're saying is Long and Trimble BEAST MODE? Start a thread.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

30 point margin. Lovely.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Stats man.
100% right, get Moller, Tate and cook out there. Try didi and lisch in the guards.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

fkn pathetic sydney

melbourne are clearly the better team

they are gona piss away their great regular season just like that

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

31-0 run... Unbelievable.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

48-7 since quarter time.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

50-7.

It's the way it shatters that matters.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Absolutely useless

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Better keep launching 3s Sydney

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

38-0 run ended. How awesome is this?

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Just tuned in. 79-33. What the actual fuck am I watching?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

38 straight points. Will Weaver remains calm. Who cares? He can't coach.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LOL 49 point lead.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

85-36. #SeeIncredible

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

This is ridiculous.

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George  
Earlier this year

Last 15 minutes. 59 or 12 United.

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trayvis  
Earlier this year

what the actual fuck haha

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LV  
Earlier this year

For all this talk about how dominant Sydney has been...

They started 11-1

9-7 since then

Playing with a lineup for the first time. And it's the playoffs

They haven't been dominant for a long time, nor have they had a consistent lineup

Xavier Cooks at half time of Game 1...

Question: you only have 37 points, what do you need to do?

Answer: We're the best team in the league, we'll be right

Who was he trying to convince?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

This is what turds like Paul White deserve.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

get fucked kings

fkn embarrassing

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Heal giving Weaver coaching tips now. Really getting dire for Sydney

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Melbourne playing excellent basketball, unselfish and not settling for the 3 but when they do spray one up they're hitting it otherwise it’s going through the hands till they find the open shot they want.
Their defence has choked the life out of Sydney.

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George  
Earlier this year

Said it before & Ill say it again. Will Weaver is a fair weather coach. When the team shoots well, basic basketball they do well. He makes zero changes when things go bad, zero adjustments in defence.
Gaze like

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Tribe  
Earlier this year

I'm in disbelief

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

buahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Wheres Homicide I thought he courtside with Hooley.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Vickerman copped a roasting after the first game but the scouting for Melbourne has been way better. I don't think Weaver seems to cop the same amount of criticism.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Is Weaver the new Demopolous or Gaze?

From memory, DD started 9-0 and Gaze 7-0

Weaver started 11-1 but he's got possibly the best team ever, on paper

I couldn't understand why anyone had Weaver COTY

United up by 56. This is surreal

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can't believe what I’m seeing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LV you just said they were the best team in NBL history. Jesus bro.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Just pack up and play the development players. There's no saving pride if your down 50+ points no matter how much you put up in the fourth.

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trayvis  
Earlier this year

man they are pissed

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Vickerman told his players not to let up during the last timeout.

*like*

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I actually think Melbourne had the best team "on paper" this season. Especially if Prather is fit.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Has LK pulled the pants down on AEG/Paul White and all their spending and rule bending at the last second of the season? If so bravo.

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Corey's earphones doesn't work. He says hi and says Sydney are done. This series is over. He told me Sydney are like fake news, creates alot of hype but is all bullshit.

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Melbourne up by 55 hahahaha.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If I was Weaver I'd put the starters back in. They created this mess.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Moller showed a bit good pass to Cook, hit the three plays D and gets dragged for walker. Kings 11 and one before Moller got injured.
Weaver led the g league all season to lose the GF series comfortably.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Didn't his wife or mother start defending him on here after that choke as the G-League final started after the Kings announcement of his hiring. Classic. Will she reappear after a Game 3 loss?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Had Melbourne not choked in game 1

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Maybe Melbourne can go one better and win by 100 on Thursday.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

We picked a bad week to unveil the retro Sydney Spirit throwback roster.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Trust fund, baby!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sydney needed 5 imports to win this.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

and two Next Stars.

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LV  
Earlier this year

[I actually think Melbourne had the best team "on paper" this season. Especially if Prather is fit.]

Possibly at the start of the year but not since Sydney signed Cooks, no way

To be fair to Weaver, they didn't have Cooks when they started the year so well

But you need a sustainable game plan. You need to scout the opposition and make changes when they scout you. That's what Mediocre coaches can't do. Anyone can coach a team to a winning streak for a few weeks

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

how the hell can sydney win game 3...

they suck

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No way Sydney wins game 3 now. There's no coming back from this.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good old Violet Crumbles are back!

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

I'm really enjoying the smiles wiped off Ware and Tate.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Shout out to Paul Smith.

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George  
Earlier this year

Could it be a Taipans v United final?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Stunned by the Kings complete lack of competitiveness right from the first tip.
They just haven't come to play.
Bogut really does look washed

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Taipans with home court advantage? Make it happen!

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

FT MEL 125-80 SYD.

Ridiculously the final score line actually doesn't do United's performance justice.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

LOL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Taipans match up well against United, would be a good finals series.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

#AnyoneButSydney

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George  
Earlier this year

Ware stinks again. 10 points. Kings stink. Will Weaver sucks balls

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LV  
Earlier this year

I just wanna see United get some revenge on Perth!

Could happen too- United owned Perth during the regular season

(Then again, Sydney owned United so maybe regular season means nothing!)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Andrew Bogut has killed them down the stretch. As a long time Kings supporter I am shattered. Let's hope they rise back at home.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I cant decide what was better: Casper with the sour sulking look on his face after carrying on all season at MU or Weavers response rather than mix things up and coach get in the refs ear....

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LV  
Earlier this year

Agree with commentator suggestions- Bring Newley or Didi into starting 5 for Cooks

That's a good starting point.

If Bogut's body isn't right, bench him too. Run small ball Cooks/Tate/Newley/Lisch/Ware

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Calm down LV

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Would be funny if it's a cairns / Melbourne final.
Most people had cairns last place at start of season and Melbourne to breeze through and make the final.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Not calm, in shock

Think that was the biggest shellacking I've ever seen

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

For all Boguts shit talking, the pressure is really on Sydney.
They have a stacked roster that cost a bundle and have been title favourites all year.
Similar to the GSW breaking Chicago's regular season win/loss record and then losing the finals, Sydney have been top of the table all year and it’s starting to look like it was all for nothing if Melbourne can play like this in game 3.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

when the game was actually close how many times did bogut turn the ball over or chuck up bricks... liability tonight

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LV  
Earlier this year

[United owned Perth during the regular season]

Technically I think it was 2-2 and United only + 20

But that's very misleading. United were far superior across 4 games, especially when absences and circumstances are considered

Still, I'm not counting chickens. Sage words from David Andersen. I've been watching Bogut, Casper too long to believe United has this in the bag

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Perth must be licking their lips

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LV stay focused on the semi finals. Perth and Melbourne might not even make it

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Cooks is no three man, plays to close to the basket and doesn't defend the perimeter well. Ware, didi, Newley, Tate, Bogut. Play cook as back up 5-4 man and Moller back up 3-4. Lisch as back up two and Bruce back up 1. Leave Kickett out out or in emergency. Cook, Tate and Moller might have to rotate on Long, try to get him into foul trouble. Bogut got play a lot tougher and if fouls occur so be it.

Melbourne always looked like they had a great team, internal troubles hurt them but they have sorted it out. They will take some stopping now.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Totally agree, I think Sydney Melbourne game 3 is a 50/50 proposition

I expect Perth to beat Cairns. But I still give Cairns a very serious chance of winning. The odds I saw were about Perth $1.50 Cairns $2.55 Or so. That seems about right to me.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

No big deal. As a part owner, Bogeyman just wanted the extra ticket sales of a game 3.

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FM  
Earlier this year

Ware playing like he has somewhere else to be on the weekend.

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Bogut choking so far. He's barely scored in the series.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I love how all the media folk talk Bogut up because they're scared of him. Bogut got destroyed today but theyd still claim he is better than Shawn Long

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K4L  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately, I was surprised Melbourne lost Game 1. Kings were completely shut down by Melbourne except for the last 6 minutes. Game 2 is more reflective of where the teams are ATM - ie As I've said all year - Kings' Achilles heel - the inability to defend the on-ball all year. W Weaver outcoached and outplayed - has no answer to Kings inability to defend then on-ball. Letting Taylor go for Lisch was a mistake. No plays to free up shooters. Every shot is against the defence. The only legit player Kings have is Tate.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Going to be a good week of bball.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I've listened to Weaver’s press conferences all year and found his whingeing about calls pathetic but tonight’s takes the cake. When you’ve been flogged by that much, it makes you look pathetic to talk about some calls that don’t go your way. I wonder what he thought about Goulding’s second phantom foul in the first minute of the game which sat him on the bench for extended periods.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Bogut never defends the perimeter, but the way Long even dominated him inside tonight says that either Bogut lacks passion, or his body is completely cooked

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm calling BS on his late season "resting". His body's done. If so, then is this the last we'll see of him? How does this bode for Tokyo? Boomers need him healthy....

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Bogut choking so far. He's barely scored in the series.

Bogut's non-performance is a trending topic for Australia on Twitter now.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just goes to show how utterly ignorant some people are:
Starting Threads rubbishing Vickerman,
then probably the same idiots saying Weaver deserved his 2nd place in CotY.

As I have asked all season long, what has Weaver ever done that has convinced people of his greatness??
He was once the video-coordinator for Brett Brown! Big whoopies!

Vickerman is a two-time championship coach, and it shows.

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Ben  
Earlier this year

21 And 9 still the best record in the league. And home teams usually win. Pretty good for a new guy. But it doesn't look good for the Kings on Thursday. Some times a big old dose of humble pie is what's needed. But this kind of butt whipping will be hard to overcome. Guess we'll find out Thursday.

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Ben  
Earlier this year

21 And 9 still the best record in the league. And home teams usually win. Pretty good for a new guy. But it doesn't look good for the Kings on Thursday. Some times a big old dose of humble pie is what's needed. But this kind of butt whipping will be hard to overcome. Guess we'll find out Thursday.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

NBLfacts @nblfacts
No team in NBL history has ever lost a playoff game by as many as the Kings did tonight and recovered to win the series.

Kings will have to make history to advance.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

They will indeed.
If they advance, they will be the only greatest NBL lineup of all time to reach the finals.
Meanwhile if they lose, they will be the only greatest NBL lineup of all time to fail to reach the finals.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Plus let's not forget they are the team with the biggest ladder lead after nine rounds in NBL history. #SeeIncredible

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Injuries came in to hurt the kings and they have stuttered since the 10-1 start. There rhythm has gone even though they were winning and yes maybe age is catching up with them.
Melbourne always looked fantastic on paper and now they are playing like it. Imo they will be champions.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#870 absolutely. When at one stage you're down 58 in the 3rd, the opposition go on a 38-0 run and in the press conference you want to talk about a couple of calls?? Are you serious? You got your pants well and truly pulled down and your worried about a couple of whistles. Maybe. Reality check required Beaver!!!

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Hugh Jass  
Earlier this year

If the Crumbles don't win through to the grand final Billy Beaver could be a one season wonder.

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George  
Earlier this year

More refs poor decision making. Giving it to Sydney. Home cooking strikes again

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George  
Earlier this year

Trimble has been great but a bit of hero ball there.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

FFS Goulding.

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George  
Earlier this year

United fall apart again. Should have won series in2. Go out in 3.

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George  
Earlier this year

Will the same thing happen in Perff?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Wrong thread George you mong.

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George  
Earlier this year

@Perthworld.
It's the right thread you wanker.
Will Cairns fail in Perffff just like United has?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Game 2 was on Monday.

Hint: today is Thursday.

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George  
Earlier this year

Are you in Perfffff, Perthworld? That would explain your failure to understand. Oh & thanks I know it's Thursday. 2020 here in Sydney too. What year in Perff? 1985? Nightly night.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"More refs poor decision making. Giving it to Sydney. Home cooking strikes again"
Yet another fan who simply doesnt know the rules. How many refs were from Perth?

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K4L  
Earlier this year

Thanks Refs! Even I think United hard done by. (Kings fan)

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