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Earlier this year

Scott Machado and Taipans agree to 2 year extension

First reported by Emilio Carchia

https://twitter.com/Carchia/status/1267082444622217218

Great news, and obviously huge for the Taipans.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Huge news for Taipans and the league, if true.
A gun player, resigning with one of the poorer teams.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I'll believe it when I see it

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Nice. It's from Sportando which is a very reliable source.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Machado / Kenny / Dufelmeier(DP)
Newbill / Djeric / King(NS)
Noi / Krslovic
Deng / Blagojevic
Jawai / Froling

Cutting
Fisher
Wynyard

Need a DP PF
Probably need a better centre than jawai also.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great news all round, certainly for Cairns and the league.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Great stuff

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Another Anon  
Earlier this year

Brilliant news for the league

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How much $?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They need a better centre to be competitive.

Baynes 86 C - should be a lock for cairns when finishes nba, too early atm, will be 35+
Brandt 89 C - has stated there is not enough money for him to return. Return to Perth?
Motum 90 PF/C - courted by multiple nbl teams - possibly Adelaide starter
Mathiang 92 C - courted by multiple nbl teams - possibly Melbourne starter
Landale 95 PF/C - unlikely but possible small stint in nbl if Euroleague cancelled.
Reath 96 C - very little news on - Perth perhaps
Salt 96 C - courted by multiple nbl teams - possibly nz backup
Humphries 98 C - looks to be leaning towards remaniing in g league, return to Sydney?

Few other aus/kiwi options currently
No real post option ps coming from college in the next 2 years.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

is big nate a starter?

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proud  
Earlier this year

Let's be honest, who wouldn't want to play with Machado? Surely it would be an attractive carrot to dangle in front of free agent having someone that will get you the ball in the right spots. I can't wait to see what he does next with a full season here under his belt to understand the interpretations of our referees.

Someone mentioned Froling as backup centre, is that Harry or Sam ?

I don't think centre is that weak if they are injury free as the added opportunity could bring out the best in them. But I'd still like another option to play some minutes at centre if foul trouble or injuries happen, has Majok Deng bulked up at all?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

it would be cool if Machado called ex international team mates Nene or Anderson Varejao

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KET  
Earlier this year

Fantastic news!

It's good to see a player who's a hit with the locals stay longer than a year and is not successfully poached.

I'm all for player opportunities, but one thing that has been missing for a long while is the player-fan connection. You only get that if 1) the player is a good local that's at your club (Mahersy type), 2) the player has been at your club for many years that it becomes like home (Davis type) or 3) Import which captures the crowds imagination (Farley type). As a 36ers fan, i've used 36ers as examples.

Perth clearly have that with Cotton. It's wonderful. The fairytale type year of Cairns is building that with Machado.

Part of what is preventing this is a bit of 1) Historically Europe would poach our quality players [this happens less during LK era which is good] and 2) Poorer club finds gem player, Rich club steals said gem player for better $$$, decent chance rich club doesnt get chemistry/roles right, that player doesn't have the same magic

Wonder if a "franchise tag" type scenario could be created to assist clubs to keep these types of players away from being poached. The method of doing so would have to be more carrot than stick - can't be denying opportunities within NBL, no real way to prevent Euro opportunities.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Wonder if a "franchise tag" type scenario could be created to assist clubs to keep these types of players away from being poached.
How?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is Newbill still with Cairns?

Think he'd be hot property as a swiss army knife guy and clearly happy to fit with a team/system behind or around other "star" or "lead" imports/locals

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"They need a better centre to be competitive."

I don't think they've given up on getting Oliver back yet.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Newbill back in the US, just had a baby.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Other options.. although not as good as Oliver.

Absolutely no quality sg options if u take out Newbill.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Great to have Machado back

Oliver signed in Israel?

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

For the conclusion of the current season, not for the next one.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Oliver has signed for conclusion of 2019/20 season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I wonder what they offered Melo Trimble last season

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who is Cutting??

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Releasing...

Fisher probably in competition with dufelmeier as the third pg
Wynyard linked to nz

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone have Machado's numbers from range? for a guy that came in with a question mark on his shooting, especially from range, the eye test during the playoffs made me feel like that was wrong!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

With 10 man rosters the only way they could keep Fisher ( unless Kenny leaves) is as a DP to which I think Fisher is too old.
Dufelmeier is right age for DP.

Wynyard is likely going to Breakers.

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Bol  
Earlier this year

Wow this is great news!!! Things are starting to look up again after a worrying couple of weeks with good players opting out.

I would like to see them keep Newbill and try and secure an aussie center. Assuming that Oliver isn't returning of course.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Fisher is 6'2 born 94
Dufelmeier is 6’1 born 96

Based on qbl vs nbl1 south performances, I’d be keeping Dufelmeier.

Wynyard has gone downhill since 1st season of college, maybe no can develop him. No doubt he would be more comfortable there.

Cairns should be going after lat mayen or okwera imo. I’m not sure blagojevic or Krslovic are long term nbl players.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

The Cairns Taipans have issued a statement indicating that negotiations remain ongoing with star point guard Scott Machado despite reports from media that he had re-signed with the Club on a multi-year contract.
Cairns released the following statement in relation to Machado and other players from their NBL20 campaign..
Despite a number of media reports, the CQUniversity Cairns Taipans are yet to formalise an agreement with former point guard Scott Machado at this stage.
While ongoing conversations with his agent have been positive and Machado has openly expressed his desire to return, there is no finalised contract given the unknown dates of the upcoming seasons.
The Taipans are at various stages with a number of players in regards to the 2020-21 NBL season, and look forward to sharing the news at a more appropriate time.
In 31 games last season, Machado posted averages of 16.6 points and 7.7 assists per game, leading the Snakes from the bottom of the table the season prior to the finals as well as being named in the All-NBL First Team.


https://nbl.com.au/news/machado-negotiations-ongoing-taipans

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL press release stating this is not a done deal

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Harpy  
Earlier this year

Not a done deal just yet

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Scout  
Earlier this year

Rumor that he is headed to the Kings

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Bol  
Earlier this year

F#@$ no anyone but the kings

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes kings, need someone to go close to Perth.

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twenty four  
Earlier this year

Not sure if it's been mentioned in here, but apparently this isn't a done deal yet.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Disappointing, but hopefully they are close.

Do you think age is an issue?

Whilst I applaud the NBL for being proactive in trying to contain costs and ensure the viability of the league, the salary-cut measures seem to be poorly thought out. Players & clubs now renegotiating longer-term, back-ended contracts.
But Cairns probably not keen on giving a 3 year deal to somebody who's already 30.

Anyway, hopefully he is genuine about wanting to return to Cairns, and they can get a deal over the line.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Given Machado's form a two year extension is no issue. Nor his age.
Should Cairns keep him he is a top 5 player in this league.

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Bol  
Earlier this year

He was close to the best player in the league last season.

Will be interesting to see if he can replicate that shooting form again.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So what guarantee Jawai to return to the Snakes?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jawai isn't starting calibre anymore.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"He was close to the best player in the league last season."

Yes he did spend some time matched up against Cotton

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think mathiang would suite cairns, probably not too expensive, larger than life character. Would do well there imo.

S5
Machado
Newbill
Noi
Deng
Mathiang

Kenny or dufelmeier(DP)
djeric or king(ns)
Krslovic or king(ns)
Krslovic or blagojevic
Jawai

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mathiang would suit all sides but not happening unless all euro leagues stop. He's on huge coin over there.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

He's not on huge coin at all.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Cam Oliver must be a priority if not then Newbill.

Well done to Cairns for getting Machado (Santamaria has been saying its a matter of time for weeks), he makes Cairns an instant playoff team.

Perth - Cotton.
Cairns - Machado.
Adelaide? - Over to you Sixers

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is Christopherson still available?
Is Ebi Ere still playing or Adris Deleon?
Are Adelaide going one import until Randle is available?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

randle is my guess with injury and age hell come cheap

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Which suits Adelaide I reckon.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Imports
Perth Cotton + Kay(most likely)
Cairns Machado + Newbill(most likely) - aus centre replacement for oliver
S.E Melbourne Wesley + ?(Possibly Roberson)
NZ Hopson + ?(Possibly Ashley) - possibly only 1 import and spend big on Webster brothers and fotu.
Melbourne Prather +?(Likely an elite pg) - replacement for Trimble, aus centre needed
Sydney ?(hopefully tate and 1 new pg) - replacement for ware after poor season
Illawarra ?(2 new imports) - needelite pg and sf or post player
Adelaide ?(Possibly Randle, hopefully 2 new) - a pg and sf


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Did Kay get de-naturalised when he took his euro out clause?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NZ have already won the title

T.Webster / Weeks / Li(DP)
C.Webster / Abercrombie / Murray(DP)
Hopson(I) / Delaney
Fotu / Loe
Ashley(I) / Salt / Wynyard(DP)

Most players interchangeable

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think Sydney will need a 5 man if Bogut doesn't return. Taylor should be a reasonable costing point guard and spend big on a 5 man. Didi would be useful as a next star as well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kay is an Australian. Cotton could also be.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just think cotton and Kay? Could be of that lost before the season starts

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

If the season is delayed it works in our favour timing wise re: Cotton citizenship. So two new stud imports is the ceiling. Imagine that along with Kay staying.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth Lookin like

Import / Norton
Cotton / Buluk
Import / Steindl / Travers(DP)
Kay / Wagstaff
(Brandt/Mathiang) / Majok


Australian sf needed with if no citizenship for cotton, adel/Broekhoff etc

Martin cannot fit in a 10 roster team unless they make Norton a starting pg. it would then open up Brandt/Mathiang spot as a potential import spot.

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proud  
Earlier this year

The talk of Cotton as an import has me wondering are there any ex NBL imports that could be taking out citizenship and become more valuable to an NBL team?

Would they be too old if say a Gary Ervin at 36 suddenly gained citizenship and could play 15 minutes/game?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Deshon Taylor would be a good point guard type for Perth.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So a naturalised Cotton and 2 imports. WOW. Simply wow. Perth continues to overspend and get that W.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You're obviously not old enough to remember times when naturalised imports were something many teams had.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I recall the Wildcats had Tiny, Fisher, Ricky, Cal, Crawford,Redhage and so many others I forget. All either naturalised or imports. Nothings changed in 25+ years that's for sure.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Which is a good thing.

Perth are a well run organisation which seems to cause petty jealousy amongst some childish posters here.

I like many others hope Perth keep Kay, Cotton becomes an Aussie and we get two more imports.

#letsgoforthreepeat

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Show them the money they will come (at whatever the cost is to Perth).

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth tax bill would be huge if some of those line ups are your team.

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this year

So a naturalised Cotton and 2 imports. WOW. Simply wow. Perth continues to overspend and get that W.


If you are concerned about Cotton plus 2 imports, you must have lost your bundle when you saw Lisch with Ware, Tate, Taylor and Lazada.

Again 'overspending' does not guarantee wins or Championships.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why do people have a problem with Cotton naturalising ?

Get over yourselves.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Jealousy.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is Cotton even eligible to naturalize.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#234 tell your mum to remove your internet privileges

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Is Cotton even eligible to naturalize.
He more or less already is naturalised, he's just waiting for the paperwork to be finished. It's essentially just a formality at this point.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Once again a team-specific thread gets derailed by Wildcats waffle.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Good players naturalising is good for the league, pretty simple isn't it?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Didi was good for the league as well but that didn't stop all Perth fans crying when they thought they were a chance of getting beat. Go with the cards your dealt and get on with it.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Agreed with above too ^

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this year

Didi was good for the league as well but that didn't stop all Perth fans crying when they thought they were a chance of getting beat. Go with the cards your dealt and get on with it.


You will find fans across the NBL questioned why Didi was considered a Next Start when he was ineligible for the draft (the original requirement for Next Stars).

As long as all other teams can have draftees as Next Stars, I'm down with that.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No next stars, just nba stashed players plus Aussie/kiwi prospects

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Trev  
Earlier this year

Machado will sign with the Wildcats if Kay doesn't resign.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Didi was good for the league, and draft and stash will be the future of the NS program, but the sudden change of rules of the fly though after the Kings approached the NBL had everyone asking questions considering he'd normally be an import.

Naturalisation is nothing new, if a player loves the NBL and Australia so much they want to get their citizenship, well that's just a credit to the team and the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

All clubs had a chance on Didi an others, just didn't bother.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yeah lets not forget that fact.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is it fact though? By all accounts, the Kings sourced him then requested the rule be changed. That isn't how any of the other Next Stars have been placed in the league.

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Bol  
Earlier this year

Never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn

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Cornholio  
Earlier this year

Trev full of s#@!.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Cairns did the perfect moneyball, reasonably priced imports


I can't help wondering if Cairns won't be completely screwed by the salary cap measures for next season.

Last season Cairns did what they normally do.
Cheap locals, and scrape together what they can, to make liveable offers to imports looking to show-case their game for a season. Some years it works, last season they hit the jackpot with three very good imports.
It's obviously a different model, to that of a team trying to make the GF every year, but it works.

Keep in mind that we should assume they would be getting a subsidy to bring them up to the salary floor.
How do they make even half-reasonable offers to imports for next season, if its effectively grossed up, and will push them over the cap.
IIRC the floor was around $1.3M last season.
Given the likely bias, I'd guess they'll only be able to spend the equivalent of around $1M next season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I can't help wondering if Cairns won't be completely screwed by the salary cap measures for next season.

Dazz Cairns is a immunity based club struggling to compete in the NBL. They do a good job and with the Covid effect in place they will struggle. All the WAWankers are talking about adding Cotton etc. No tourists in Cairns ='s no Snakes. There needs to to be a firm enforceable cap (won't happen) and an import limit. 2. Future Stars is gone so 2 it is.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Yeah, it all a bit messy.
I thought from the start, that as a covid only measure they should have brought in some kind of hard cap (points and/or salary) just for next season (with existing contracts grandfathered)
The whole "salary cut" thing has turned into a shemozzle.

Hopefully the league will crack open the equalisation fund and help Cairns retain some of their players.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

with existing contracts grandfathered
How?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"He more or less already is naturalised, he's just waiting for the paperwork to be finished. It's essentially just a formality at this point."
[Citations required]

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How many citations are required?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Maybe 1 cos that's what KobeR seems to require.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

"He more or less already is naturalised, he's just waiting for the paperwork to be finished. It's essentially just a formality at this point."
[Citations required]
https://youtu.be/O9G2E51g4TE?t=1048

You're welcome.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That doesn't say he is "more or less naturalised", it just says he's filled out all the forms and submitted them. So he's not waiting for the paperwork to be finalised, he's waiting for the point where he is deemed eligible under the criteria.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So you think he submitted the paperwork without being eligible? Or when he is deemed eligible, he goes to the back of the line again just to get rubber stamped?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Some people apply for citizenship but are deemed ineligible.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Cotton has an Australian spouse and child. Unless there has been fraud, that guarantees him citizenship.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Still plenty of time for him to have a son.
Cotton Jr representing Australia in 2044 and beyond:)

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