Zodiac
Last month

SEM re-sign Kendall Stephens release Madgen & Trist

SEM Phoenix have re-signed Kendall Stephens to a 2 year deal (1+1) and have declined the options on Ben Madgen & Dan Trist making them both free agents.

https://nbl.com.au/news/stephens-re-signs-with-south-east-melbourne

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Zodiac  
Last month

I wonder if Madgen will finally come home to play for the 36ers?

He started out with us as a development player but we lost him when he went to college and then signed with Sydney when he came back.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Madden to the Hawks as a veteran off the bench.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I like Madgen so nothing against him personally, but if Daniel Dillion is signed we already have a bench guard the wrong side of 30.

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WookieE  
Last month

Madgen is a great team guy, works SUPER hard and has always been fantastic off the court, most teams would be lucky to pick him up... Trist was lucky to get a gig last season but seemed to be treated like an afterthought even though he was fairly capable when given a chance...

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Anonymous  
Last month

Madgen back to Sydney

Gliddon to SEM

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D2.0  
Last month

Magden I feel was meant to be a star signing for SEM, after his career in Europe, but as mentioned was already near retirement.
Still, I am surprised that with the pay-cut in place for next season, they are releasing him. His 12 points a game @42% was certainly worth having.
It may have been a mutual thing? He didn't want to take the pay-cut, and wanted to renegotiate, but SEM not prepared to go more than one year at a time.

He'll get picked up for sure. If you're trying to develop youth, he's exactly the kind of veteran you want to offer a steady hand.

(Or it could be that retirement is actually on the cards? Body could tired?)

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D2.0  
Last month

Trist, I don't know, he supposedly played well in Europe, but has then underachieved since returning to Aus.
Perhaps the reffing, and resultant style of play, doesn't suit a big banger like him??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Trist probably about to be divorced now

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jois would be an upgrade on trist imo

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kendall's got good size for a wing and a dead eye shooter. I thought he was underused by Mitchell - you’d assume moving forward he’s going to be a regular rotation player around 20 mins per game.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Stephens was disappointing but maybe to convince him to re-sign as he does have genuine potential they're giving him the starting SG spot at Madgen's expense?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kendall showed promise in some game but defensively he was a liability. Trist was good in Spain but played at the second level. Jois was horrible and has no concept of team basketball.

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Anonymous  
Last month

5'9 Roberson/6’1 Adnam
6’6 Gliddon/6’2 Gibson
6’6 Te Rangi/6’7 Stephens
6’6 Creek/6’7 White
6’7 Wesley/6’9 Pineau

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Anonymous  
Last month

Trist's reputation was meant to be awesome when he returned from EU. Since then and certainly in SEABL he was never of any high level nor a threat. How he got and NBL gig is amazing to me. You can see the way Madgen plays that the game has left him behind.

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Anonymous  
Last month

5'9 Roberson/6'1 Adnam
6’6 Gliddon/6’2 Gibson/6’4 Hickey(DP)
6’6 Te Rangi/6’7 Stephens
6’6 Creek/6’7 White/(DP)-Maybe Wetzell, Peatling, Galloway or another college kid.
6’7 Wesley/6’9 Pineau

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Anonymous  
Last month

If they don't sign te Rangi, it’ll be a centre or power forward instead with creek playing the 3.

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Cornholio  
Last month

Creek and Wesley very undersized if they're your starting 4/5.

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PlaymakerMo  
Last month

Pineau is probably starting unless they pick up a stud 5. Mitchell loves the kid.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Without te Rangi

Roberson/Adnam
Gliddon/Gibson
Creek/Stephens
Wesley/White
Pineau/? (Has to be Aussie or kiwi)

Who's potentially left
Landale
Brandt
Kickert
Reath
Salt
Froling
Pledger
Pinder

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Anonymous  
Last month

Madgen stunk it up all year and was on good coin so the option be declined was always happening.

Trist is a nice NBL1 player at best so no loss to the league.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Trist didn't play top level Europe. SEABL imports play at the 2nd teir 3rd tier he did so no surprise he sucks in NBL

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Anonymous  
Last month

Fuck Madgen! please dont play for the Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Madgen, meh. Not much tread left on those tyres.

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Anonymous  
Last month

With the outbreak going on, who would want to play in Melbourne. Looking like most other cities will get crowds, if things continue to go to shit there, Melbourne teams may have to go elsewhere. Perhaps a good chance for a dry run in NZ and Tassie.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Trist was never good, had ok numbers in a shitty Spanish 2nd league. Too slow and unathletic to make it in today's NBL. Madgen did some nice things in Europe but the league has improved immensely since he last played here. He was found out and struggled with his scoring and I'm sure age plays a factor in that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Problem with Madgen is he still thinks he is a star. Sooks when he doesn't get calls and just takes bad shots sometimes without realising that players are better. Maybe can make a renaissance like Barlow but needs to put ego aside and realise he's just a role playing shooter now. He was always an arrogant Dick though throughout juniors here though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

How Adnam is still in the NBL is beyond me.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Teams will get deeper rosters in the next few years. Yes there are some mediocre players at the end of benches.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adnam is not the worst player in the league by a long way

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Anonymous  
Last month

Addams is better than a lot players in his position in this league.

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koberulz  
Last month

People on here seem to think about half the league is "below NBL standard", which makes one wonder how "NBL standard" is defined if it's not by, y'know, playing in the NBL.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

Madgen to Sydney or the Gong. No chance of him in Adelaide

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mitchell might love Pineau but if he is your starting centre you aren't a good team.

Pineau classic bench nbl player so you’d think the go and chase a big.

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KET  
Last month

The chatter is he's in NSW these days

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Anonymous  
Last month

You'd think they got Stephens on a team friendly deal as he wouldn't have had teams lining up to sign him as he is a bench/depth guy at best.

If he played in Perth or Sydney last year he wouldn't have even seen the floor.

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The Ibek-Way  
Last month

Madgen seems the right age for Sydney

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adelaide will definitely have a look at Madgen. They shouldn't but they will.

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LC  
Last month

Venky Jois is returning to the US.

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Sourbroker  
Last month

Sydney have an offer out to a young gun - three years, big moola.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Coach certainly loves a good cause so expect they'll get there man

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who's the young gun?

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Sourbroker  
Last month

Not sure what loving a good cause has to do with anything. His star player despises good causes.

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Anonymous  
Last month

SourBroker

the young gun 3yr offer a College player free agent or import

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oliver becoming hot on the big three radar

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oliver best import big in the league last year so not surprising that everyone wants him

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Anonymous  
Last month

White on long term deal or ns Wigness me thinks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

so Tate and Plumlee aren't returning

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Sourbroker  
Last month

Free agent

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sour Broker

player who play here or over seas

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Isaac  
Last month

Surely SEM can shoulder Pineau as a starter if the others include Roberson, Creek and Wesley. Some strong teams have had competent role players that don't rock the boat or disrupt flow - Rees and Stiff in Adelaide were two, Egan with the Tigers, Tovey with Perth/etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wtf is big x basketball

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Sourbroker  
Last month

Domestic.

If the league doesn't have the likes of Bogut and Plumlee then Pineau is fine at the five. Pretty sure Wesley is coming off the bench.

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D2.0  
Last month

People on here seem to think about half the league is "below NBL standard", which makes one wonder how "NBL standard" is defined if it's not by, y'know, playing in the NBL

They must be referring to that other NBL, the one that is so much better than all the "shit European leagues"

It's a wonder we have a league at all, when all these guys who aren't even "NBL standard" can "make $800k" playing for "shit European leagues"

Nobody expected trist to be a super-star on his return, but his performance in Europe certainly portended better than he delivered. It's not surprising he's been cut after lacklustre seasons, but the poor performance itself is.

Madgen is fine. He may nolonger be starter quality, is on the brink of retirement, and maybe wants more than SEM were willing to pay, but he'll be a very handy bench option for some team.

Ostensibly local player numbers have remained the same form last season. However overall many are taking a step-up in the roster.
It remains to be seen which direction our overall talent pool goes. Will we see a net outflow of guys like Kay, Wake, and Cooks?
Or a net inflow of Marquees like Broekhoff?
Until we know, its too early to write-off Madgen

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Ben Madgen shot the 3 at 33%, the same % as Tryst, except Madgen was the starting shooting guard.

You'd thing having someone wit as much gravity as Roberson at your side, you could shoot a bit better than that.

Madgen can still play in the NBL, as a 6th or 7th man, at near league minimum less Covid discount.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pineau starting doesn't allow you to really compete with those top team who have really stong starting centers

Bogut/Oliver/Long etc are guys he simply can't compete with.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Adnam is not the worst player in the league because the league has had players like Zac Delany, Scott Christophersen, Billy Preston and Kevin White.

Saying Adnam is not the worst player is not a ringing enodrsement.

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Sourbroker  
Last month

Says a bloke who's never played at a level even remotely close to NBL level.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bogut, Oliver and long...
Long won't be here. Bogut half season if at all. Oliver has offers elsewhere

Starter/Backup/extra

Perth-C?/Majok
Adelaide-Humphries/Salt possibly
SEM-Pineau/C?
Melbourne-C?/Acuil
Sydney-C?/Hunter
Illawara-C?/Ogilvy
Brisbane-Hodgson/H.Froling possibly/Harrison
Cairns-potentially Oliver possibly/Jawai/S.Froling possibly
NZ-potentially Loe/Ashley possibly

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AngusH  
Last month

Adnam is far from the worst player in the league. He's a very handy backup PG.

Re: Madgen being past it, he had an amazing cold streak for most of the season. It's not like his game relies on supreme athleticism or anything like that - he works hard off the ball and for the most part got a lot of good looks last season but they just didn't drop. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be a useful signing next season, but most likely as first guard off the bench than starter.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sourbroker yet to provide us with a name for rumoured Sydney player on " big moolah".

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Anonymous  
Last month

i am guessing replacement for bogut

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sunday dech

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Anonymous  
Last month

His clue is domestic. Harry Froling.

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Sourbroker  
Last month

It's a guard.

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Anonymous  
Last month

if we guess it right will u tell us sourboker

my guess

NBL Naar or Dech
oversea Matt Kenyon
College Dejan vasiljevic

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Cornholio  
Last month

Domestic tick ( ie not overseas last season).
Guard tick
Young ( under 25/26 ) ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

played in the nbl? last yr

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Anonymous  
Last month

they cant sign anyone until 1/7 so must be still a romour

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Perthworld  
Last month

Does he have brown or blue eyes?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Glover, I heard but not on the big coin. I don't believe it though. At a guess I’m backing Oliver or Landale.

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Sourbroker  
Last month

If anyone thinks clubs are waiting until July 1 to open negotiations you can log off now.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Was the e-mailed to U as a king's fan

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Anonymous  
Last month

So U r saying there talking not signing talk to a player means nothing until there signed

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Anonymous  
Last month

Do the rules allow you to talk to players before the free agency start ? Contractually you would think the club you're with not be happy unless they gave you permission.

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proud  
Last month

Sydney could do worse than have Madgen and Bruce coming off the bench to give Louzada and (yet to be unnamed import point guard).

I'd imagine he would be a good influence on Didi as well.

Could he return with the desire of having his number retired ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Weaver talks about setting the team up for the future, Madgen doesn't fit that bill at his age.

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Zodiac  
Last month

I'd imagine he would be a good influence on Didi as well.


He could teach him the finer points of chair-throwing for instance.

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Sourbroker  
Last month

It's not Madgen. Could be if the player offered rejects the offer.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Intersting times ahead for Sydney is what I hear.

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Anonymous  
Last month

in a good way

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Anonymous  
Last month

WHAT ABOUT BRANDT AS THE BIG AS HE IS BACK HOME FROM ITALY.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Smith supposedly tightening the purse strings at Sydney.

Brandt said not enough money for him to stay in Australia unless he got a massive offer.

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Anonymous  
Last month

All teams are tighten the cash!

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BeeGee  
Last month

Realistically is Brandt even worth 'big money' that he could get in Europe? I'd suspect not?

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Zodiac  
Last month

I think Brandt would know he's not worth superstar money in the NBL just that he likely makes a lot more in Europe than he could make here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Smith supposedly tightening the purse strings at Sydney." Interesting times ahead in that area.

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