The Insider
Last year
NBL1 West - Offseason Thread
Okay, here's a new thread for the NBL1 West offseason.....
Anonymous
Last year
Jessie Edwards confirmed to Cougars
That straight up is enough to put them back in the 8
Anon
Last year
Tom Atkinson to Giants, joining Malek and Garang and what is a pretty handy big man line-up.
Sure you guys don't want to make another two or three more threads on it
Anon
Last year
This is now the only one. The others have a link to this one.
It's started. "That straight up is enough to put them back in the 8"
That's already means nothing. A top 8? Why is the top 8 significant? If you said top 2 it might mean something.
I'd say top 1 from west, eastand central. Top 2 from north, top 3 from south
8 teams go to vic for wed, Friday, sat, sun Short series.
Wed - fri pool play
Pool 1
South 1
North 2
South 3
East 1
Pool 2
North 1
South 2
Central 1
West 1
Sat - semi
Top pool 1 V 2nd pool 2
Top pool 2 V 2nd pool 1
Sun - Final
Looks to be 21'
Teams
Central 10-12
West 14
East 10-12
North 14-16
South 18-20
anon nbl
Last year
let's be real here the tournament most likely will only be friday saturday sunday max, have to remember majority of players have work outside of playing and may not want to take a week off to play in a tournament
I can see similar formatting to above where
Friday - pool play
Saturday - semis
Sunday - finals
or even squeezed kind of like the coastal classic
Saturday - pool play
Sunday - semis and finals
as semis and finals most likely is just 2 games in one day for the winning team in semis
I don't think they’ll be playing so many games in a row.
Any word on whether we'll be having imports next season?
it would be a fair assumption to think teams will be applying for exemptions to get imports into the country
what the hell is going on with the Mandurah players all heading to the goldfields giants both men and women. that's a big loss for trahair and the magic
Anonymous
Last year
Teams are still only allowed 2 two restricted players - goodluck getting sports visas
NBL players to be restricted and depending on when seasons starts they may use 19/20 minutes but WNBL possibly using current minutes due to the hub format.
Guess that imports will be on a 'if you can get one, good for you' basis. Same goes for the ones that are already in the country, who will come at a premium now.
Lakeside men will be pretty set then? Isenbarger and Bowie both still in the country. Anyone know if they've signed?
Anonymous
Last year
Which club will secure Sami Whitcomb - that team will be TOP 2
Anonymous
Last year
Back in perth awaiting birth of her baby with Kate Malpass. She is back at Lynx training this week in preparation to head to the WNBL hub with the team
Anonymous
Last year
Who knows but its a great opportunity to have a WNBA championship player in WA in OUR NBL1 West competition. hopefully she will stay and help inspire the junior girls
Mandurah seem to be a basket case in the men at least.
Following the Chalk-gate disaster the club appears to have got back on their feet financially but on the court gone backwards in a major way.
Anonymous
Last year
Bassett-Scarfe to Mandurah so not much talent left for the girls either
Anonymous
Last year
Thwaites quickly getting a reputation for poaching strong players off of other clubs that have spent years developing them and then calling them his own. Steady on that chequebook there TT, you may need it to save your job if you keep failing on court over the next 12 to 24 months. And am I the only one expecting a screwjob worse than what Vince McMahon did to Bret Hart, if Coach Cooper can't get the desired results with Andy 'just quietly sitting in the background' watching it all unfold? Don't act shocked when it plays out
But it's the Family club!
Looks more like the step family club.
Anonymous
Last year
All aboard the Thwaites hate train again. And to think NBL1 might have forced everyone to play nice online again? Clearly wrong.
strong rumour going around also that talented youngster josh hunt maybe leaving Mandurah as well. Cockburn again?
Anonymous
Last year
Its not hating on a guy if it's the truth. He's his own worst enemy and is literally on interested in people so long as he can use and abuse them to get what he wants. Again, not hating - it's the truth. The only thing the guy loves more than his own voice is his reflection in the mirror
Hunt has been linked with the rest of the former Magic men to a move to the Giants. Huge loss for Trahair if true and also strong rumours that several clubs are circling for the services of very promising young point guard Riley Parker from the Magic too. Maybe it's time to seriously look at a Magic / Slammers merge in the not too distant future
Perthworld
Last year
Never change WA, never change
Don't worry we won't.
Anonymous
Last year
Interesting, what incentive is it for local clubs to develop 'local' junior players when clubs continually poach young ones - Thwaites at Cockburn, Nix at Wolves, Mansfield at Suns, Allen at Redbacks??
Maybe BWA should look to introduce a similar concept used in Melbourne whereby each age group team are only allowed to have 2 'imports' in an age group, this would remove 'stacking' of teams and increase competitiveness at a junior level which in turn will increase the skill development that will hopefully ensure a more competitive NBL1 competition.
I think that the inequality of players dispersed in all teams may see a noncompetitive NBL1 competition until some experienced 'imports' arrive and at a WABL level a weaker competition delivering juniors not ready for the big leagues.
any post that references the montreal screwjob is worthy of recognition. well done.
the clubs that pedal their little slogans and marketing campaigns are generally creating a rod for their own back when it comes to scrutiny from those in the basketball community.
Lakeside Lightning "where its more than a game" have screwed so many people over the years. Coaches and players. None more recent than the departure of their womens coach in controversial circumstances.
Joondalup Wolves "the strength of the wolf is in the pack", until your not as good as someone outside the pack and the club just buys them in.
Cockburn Cougars "Cougar Family" except that they spend a considerable amount of time and effort recruiting from other clubs. Your family until they find someone better, and they are always looking for someone better.
The fact is, every club just wants to win. Every club recruits from other clubs. Every club will put their best possible team on the floor within the budget and means and contacts they have. Drop all the slogans and catch phrases and we can all move on without having to hear all this dribble about values that aren't upheld.
Is there any loyalty left amongst players? How many athletes would still be playing for their junior club? Would love to know some stats
Anonymous
Last year
I can personally comment here that a number of junior players WANT to stay, however are pushed out at dleague/sbl level due to coaches wanting to bring in 'bought' players as they are unable to or dont want to provide the development that they need, despite all the years invested in them as juniors and their loyalty to the club.
Many juniors then move clubs with the promise of 'development' which coaches are unable to do so they then seek the assistance of external coaching programs which simply do not align with the clubs playing style, therefore they are 'moved' along to the next promise land of development and minutes to be played
Coaches honesty is getting lost and the integrity of some coaches is letting our game down all to win a premiership.. this is why player loyalty no longer exists
Any clubs in WA get it right? Willetton and Perry Lakes don't seem to put much fluff out there
Anonymous
Last year
Hilarious 113
Because they don't market well, they do it better?
A lot of tall poppy syndrome around
What's hilarious? Just actually asking the question? Are there any clubs that don’t poach and don’t beat their drum, and get results?
Jesus, I could count the number of female players been "recruited" to Cockburn in the last five years on 1 finger.
Success in juniors is simply a function of catchment area population and registration numbers.
Coaching is probably 5% of the success?
Anon
Last year
Yeah right. Have a look at Joondalups juniors performance this season.
people refer to plays loyalty to a club when the coaches at the club recruit over them. does anyone question the clubs loyalty to their own players?
Whitcomb walking away from a WNBA career during an Olympic year to play NBL 1 and inspire future generations.... WOW. Hopefully we see our men's NBA players being so selfless also
I've heard the Wolfpack have an offer on the table for Joe Ingles. Good guy. Easy signing.
it probably helps when you get paid peanuts to play in the WNBA anyway.
partner and newborn here in Perth
and no corona here pretty much
Anonymous
Last year
112 is partially right, surely the majority of juniors would prefer to stay at their original club, but the pathway bottlenecks so much after u18s. Every year another crop of juniors all age out and the next step is D league/SBL, where there is usually limited opportunities. It means strong junior clubs will always get raided. Watch the current crop of u16 girls at willo, they had 2 teams in champ division this year and finished 1,2 which means they must have the majority of talent in that age group. In a couple of years time, how the hell could willo possibly keep them all and give them opportunities in D league/SBL?
Anonymous
Last year
Agreed, they need to follow the boys WABL program and put in a Under 20 competition. There are alot of great players who can play 20's but not D/league/SBL ready and this would keep alot of girls in the program, especially as it aligns with the Under 20 state program
koberulz
Last year
All that does is shift the same problem by two years.
Anonymous
Last year
Why not expand D league and let clubs enter as many teams as they want? BWA's job is to grow the sport. If you end up with too many teams for one comp, then grade it D1 & D2
Question - Sorry if already been answered.
But if a team wins the SBL/NBL west championship and cant afford to travel interstate to play in the national championships or what ever you call it, who foots the bill??
koberulz
Last year
Why not expand D league and let clubs enter as many teams as they want? BWA's job is to grow the sport. If you end up with too many teams for one comp, then grade it D1 & D2How does that help? You're basically just giving D-League its own D-League, and shuffling the problem around. Those Willetton girls aren't going to settle for Div 3 D-League if they can play NBL1 for a different club.
There has to be an elite level, at which most players will simply have to drop away, or the whole thing is pointless. When that happens, weaker clubs are going to drop more players than stronger clubs, and the weaker players from the stronger clubs will move to fill those spots.
The only way you can fix that is by somehow mandating parity in the junior ranks, so no club has more good players than any other club, meaning they all filter through at the same rate. And a compulsory retirement age for all SBL players, so spots are opened up at the right time.
Anonymous
Last year
I think what started this discussion was kids not necessarily wanting to move, but having no option because the pathway was clogged. Mandating parity is a bit counterproductive, it gives clubs no incentive to grow their own, because if they get a big strong crop like those willo girls then their reward is watching them being forced to head elsewhere. WOuldn't it be better a better reward for willo to have a few D league teams and if they were graded then they might have all 3 in D1 if they are good enough. Kalamunda struggled to field a team for the D league GF, but other clubs probably could've fielded a couple of teams for the season. NBL1 can be open slather as there is potentially money involved, but being forced to move clubs that aren't near where you live when you're paying to play is a good way to lose participants
koberulz
Last year
Kalamunda struggled to field a team for the D league GFBecause someone decided three weeks out that they should play on a Saturday.
"Because someone decided three weeks out that they should play on a Saturday."
They withheld telling anyone that they couldnt field a full team on the saturday because they didnt think they'd beat lakeside...
IMO there will need to be some change on both men and women sides to cater for more players coming thru the WABL funnel and needing a pathway to keep the better players involved. With the change to divisions at WABL 4-5 years ago we are now seeing 4 divisions of boys and girls at U/16, and this year there was 3 divisions of u/18 men - so it is just a matter of time before WABL/BWA needs to look at where do these players go...perhaps its Dleague and some sort of youth league (u23 for men/ u21 for women) or what? It would be disappointing for everyone if the time and effort spent to get these kids playing WABL do not have somewhere to play besides suburban domestic comps once they graduate from WABL and only the elite ones play NBL1.
Youth League in Victoria works really well but it is also done right. They make it worthwhile for those players as a legitimate stepping stone to BIG V or NBL1.
Court announcer, player intros, full score bench and stats.
Compare that to our D League and some teams having to play at 6:30pm on a sunday night out on a back court somewhere with nobody watching. Or rocking up to a game to play and half the players are hung over and having to fill in with U18 players because other players didn't show up.
If we really focused on this league and lifting the standard and what it means we could see it grow into something exciting and of high interest
Anonymous
Last year
Great concept but takes a lot of resources. These other Instagram hero leagues like Underground & AUBL have gone down that path. An u23 league is a good idea, although getting numbers at all clubs may be hard. I guess then we go back to the multiple teams from same club idea. All I know is that right now we have a system with lots of opportunities for juniors but the minute they turn 18 those opportunities evaporate and too many end up leaving the sport. Or maybe we are happy just hearing about yet another footy player who has a basketball background
Lukosius
Last year
[quote]But if a team wins the SBL/NBL west championship and cant afford to travel interstate to play in the national championships or what ever you call it, who foots the bill??[/quote]
National Champs travel will be paid by BWA.
koberulz
Last year
An u23 league is a good idea, although getting numbers at all clubs may be hard.There used to be one for the men, in place of the u20s that exists now. Not sure why the change was made.
I think generally the logic behind removing the 23s was that if you are good enough at that age to be playing WABL you should be in Dleauge. So it was moved to U20s and those that couldn't make the dleague squad were weeded out of the comp.
I'm thinking...
Nbl,academy (u21s maybe) training/travelling/playing alongside nbl teams , once the season over they play in nbl1 league in there state conference.
So say 10 u21 players in each nbl academy team , 100 players across the country u21.
koberulz
Last year
So abolish NBL1 in favour of just giving each NBL team a meaningless trophy every August?
I'm sure she is related to other members of the club. All in the family.
This is what someone’s was talking about, when you run bs slogans all day long, then sign outside players, you don’t come across as too genuine about being a family club.
Nothing wrong with signing a player like this for the level by any means. But stop selling yourself as being all about the family.
Any other signings happened or is it just Cockburn?
Annonn
Last year
You are missing the point of #cougarfamily. They are not talking to you and I am sure have no interest in what you think about it. It's appropriate for their audience.
So if I'm in the area and a paying member, am I the audience?
Anonymous
Last year
Who knows, but with NBL1 hopefully more clubs will provide a better game night entertainment experience. Wolves, Redbacks, Rockingham did a good job this year so if clubs are marking to their 'local' family market, then provide a product they can go watch
Anonymous
Last year
Watching Anons taking marketing slogans at their literal word is hilarious.
That's. Not. How. It. Works.
Do you really think the intent of #cougarfamily was to have an all-australian 20-contract strong Cougar team every year. Kudos to those anons that are that silly/unrealistic.
Start being good for the sport instead of chopping down clubs every chance you get. Cougars are getting better every year, as other clubs have over the years, and it's just standard now that you get slammed online when you do.
Go embrace mediocrity elsewhere, seems to be all Anons care about. It certainly isn't clubs improving to make the sport better that you care about.
TBH anons are probably parents who didn't get their way, or coaches who didn't hit the mark. They always shout the loudest.
Or previous members that don't have a say in how the club is run and are being babies about it
Agree with what you said but quite funny you are also posting as anon
if you are posting about cougar fam and its in every post on social media and website and anything public facing then you may be able to draw the audience is the public.
same goes for lakesides where its more than a game
2BALLZ
Last year
The whole Australian basketball system/infrastructure from the grass roots level to the NBL is a joke and needs a wrecking ball put through it.
Ground up rebuild is the only way.
Now groan dinosaurs!!
anonymous
Last year
Interesting view on the wrecking ball.
Would like to hear your thoughts why it is a joke and your suggestions on improvements.
The alignment of state leagues and NBL is great. It may take a while but the NBL1 will be fantastic for Aust bball and is a major step in the right direction in my opinion.
There are bound to be issues along the way and different levels of 'performance' in the off court activities but we must keep in mind that each club has a different approach and infrastructure setup. Some will nail it, others will struggle but hopefully in the next 3-5 years we have a really solid 2nd tier competition that will improve NBL and also pathways and link back to grassroots.
anon1
Last year
I believe the biggest issue was the 2nd tier aspect should've been resolved with all states properly and to proceed as one rather than this stagnant approach, there really needs to be higher ups in Basketball Australia having a real look at how the BNSW is running things and to really get them to push to move into the NBL1 bracket.
It really reflects poorly on how its run when all other states were able to hash things out but one and the one is trying to milk upwards of 300% increase in league rego fees for clubs
2BALLZ
Last year
AUSTRALIAN MENS BASKETBALL TEAM
RANKED 3 2020
JOINED FIBA- 1947
OLYMPIC GAMES
APPEARANCES- 14
MEDALS- 0
FIBA WORLD CUP
APPEARANCES- 12
MEDALS- 0
Keep defending a system/infrastructure that clearly doesn't work if you are happy with our results on the world stage.
If you can't see for yourself the Structural problems the ground up rebuild that is required and the possible solutions then I am not about to write the essay that it would take to explain it to you here on this forum.
To continue on in the exact same fashion and expect a different result/outcome is complete insanity.
Defend it if you must.
^^^ than why bother posting here if you cant be bothered to offer your solutions
anonymous
Last year
exactly, 2BALLZ you have claimed it is broken twice now and offered no solutions or options.
Easy to throw stones...
2BALLZ
Last year
It's fun to watch Aussie bball Neanderthals beat there chest over nothing more than a name change and the addition of a national semi pro tournament.
Actually the quiet opposite 2ballz, I'm keen to see any new proposals to improve OZ Bball, so I just don't understand why you wont show them here since you seem to have some ideas
2BALLZ
Last year
If you can't see for yourself the changes that need to be implemented from the ground up by looking at the way things are done in the US and more recently in Europe then I'm afraid you are part of the problem.
There are many amongst the Australian basketball community that agree that as a nation where basketball is the fastest growing sport we have clearly built the system from the ground up incorrectly.
It is only prehistoric dinosaurs such as yourself that continue to pretend all is well, and defend BA to the death Inspite of the obvious lack of performance internationally.
Denial is not a river in Egypt.
mate I'm 22 at uni and not been to the US or Euorpe so was just asking you to share your ideas!
The Aus system is by far better than u.s. lol the u.s system is one of the worst out of all developed nations.
It's not uniform across the board, every u.s state is slightly different.
bUt ThEy hAve HIghlIGht viDeos of LoTS oF HiGH SkoOl gAmeS.
For population and resources they throw into the game, the US is one of the worst performing countries per capita in basketball.
Slovenia have what, 2 million people?!
The number of players, the trainers and the genetics is what give the u.s.a the edge.
Other countries have always played better as a team but don't yet have the ability to go 10 deep.
Canada, France are the 2 nations closing the gap the fastest.
2BALLZ
Last year
I guess that's why all professional or semi professional leagues in Australia continue to contract players out of the US to play in Australia.
Let's face it, if it wasn't for the quality of the US players coming out of the US system hardly anyone would watch professional Australian basketball and it would be financially unviable.
Once again I've awoken a dinosaur hell bent on defending the honour of BA and a losing track record.
Keep purchasing top dollar US Kids
To keep your jobs.
Canada will have 30+ nba players by 2025
France will have 20+
Australia likely just under 10.
2BALLZ
Last year
Exactly,and how many of those 10 Australians are truly home grown products?
Most of them have to pursue their path through the US college system.
But nevertheless the dinosaurs will point to them as a prime example of the great job BA us doing.
Claiming them as our own when they are clearly US products.
Pretty sure most of them went through centre of excellence.
Have u heard about the new youth league coming in under nbl?
2BALLZ
Last year
Went through centre of excellence then went to the US as the level of competition in Australia is shit.
New youth league packed with under performing, under trained local talent with minimum opportunity for elite level experience, sounds like more of the same old strategy to me.
Same pig but with lipstick on it.
but we have heaps of trainers in perth
bball doctor
Glossop
morley
connoly
lako
Armstrong
surely with all these trainers we can be like the usa
No way do those wa trainers compete with the level of the USA.
16 y,o here are equivalent to 14s over there,.
2BALLZ
Last year
Ah yes, the bball trainers and academy's for those 5ft untalented kiddies with no potential who's parents can afford to buy them moderate success resulting in numerous plastic wabl trophies,
And a season or two in d league if they're lucky.
I don't blame those trainers they are merely filling the hole in a market that has been created by BA's hopeless system/structure.
Don't hate the players hate the game.
Tyrell
Last year
Forgot to list the best individual development coach in WA Warren Kuhn- he's the only actual coach who knows what it takes, the guy doesn't get enough respect and accolades.
Cockburn Cougars NBL1 Roster as per NBL1 Website;
Abbey Cowan, Emma Burke, Haylee De Sousa, Jesni Cooper, Kahlia Morgan, Kiera Dunhill, Matilda Muir, Nicole Pitcher, Nicole Roberts, Sally Graham, Tia Morgan, Jessie Edwards, Taylah Simmons
2BALLZ
Last year
%100 agree with tyrell.
Warren Kuhn is the best individual development coach in WA.
TT getting in quick with nbl and naming entire list haha
Anonymous
Last year
Would say Cougars have more to add than that. That's just imports and this year’s group,
Tyrell
Last year
@2BALLZ, half the coaches here still living in the 90s, Coach Kuhn pioneering and leading the way!
Pesava is a great pickup for them along with Atkinson
Ballantyne and Garang were brilliant for them in WCC. Klazstorny was also a real solid performer for them.
Really starting to get a nice Aussie core out there.
Noah Hinkley has some great potential as does Sam Morrow.
Creek is doing some good things with that program
Anon
Last year
Gold Capital of Australia + Record Gold Prices = Plenty of Jobs = $$$$$
Kalgoorlie is a very attractive place to live and play basketball
Elmmig
Last year
Hello, nice to finally join this fine community :)
KAL
Last year
There is no better place to play in the SBL then Kalgoorlie when the team is winning and the community is behind them! Hopefully with these recent signings this will see the Giants get back on track and become a top 4 team!
Why in a basketball sense I'm sure everyone knows about Kalgoorlies lifestyle.
Anonymous
Last year
Aaaaand Josh Hunt to Cougars.
Cue the haters.
Mandurah can't keep anyone it seems?
Anonymous
Last year
So the only player Trahair has left of any note is youngster Parker. You can't see him staying long and you almost wonder if a Slammers or even Flames make a major play for him in the near future
Anon
Last year
With the Magic hoping to have Ben Smith and Jerami Grace back next year (along with two imports), maybe Atkinson and Hunt saw the writing on the wall.
That said, they will find it very difficult to get any imports, so that idea has backfired. Smith, Atkinson, Hunt, Parker and Grace would have been a handy all-Aussie line-up.
Baller
Last year
You heard it here first, expect Riley Parker to sign with the Cairns Marlins for NBL1 North in 2021. Very close with Taipans assistant Lennon Smart and it is believed he is currently finalising a deal whilst over in Cairns visiting Smart. Fire sale at Mandurah is complete, and the old battle of Magic vs Slammers for the Wooden Spoon is well and truly alive in 2021
"Heard it here first".....and what now its on Fox news? FOH Riley talking yourself up like that
Riley parker aka peter parker aka spiderman
could he join the #cougarfam?
TT continues to make moves. Olivia Bassett-Scarfe puts pen to paper for the cougars 2021.
More like Lennon Smartt talking himself up. He is not an "actual" assistant for cairns. He is an unpaid video guy Who makes money on the side. And good for him, but to pump himself up as an assistant on his Facebook doesn't make him one
Poster
Last year
You heard it here second... Riley Parker has signed with Mandurah.
billybonkzbasketz
Last year
are they going to stream all NBL1 games? that's just a rumour I heard, anyone got any credible info?
Lennon Smartt is now a contracts AC at cairns. His first year was a unpaid video intern role yes but I believe he is now a paid assistant for 20/21.
No he isn't paid. He works for Cairns Basketball as a development officer but works for free for the taipans.
Big difference.
Whats your beef with Lennon? His facebook page says
Assistant basketball coach, Intern at Cairns Tiapans
Which sounds correct if you look up what an intern is
Any position at an NBL club is higher than 99% of the people who post here.. who cares if hes paid or not. He still has the position.
LJ
Last year
Lennon loves a good position. Marshall Nelson needs a gig somewhere surely.
"Any position at an NBL club is higher than 99% of the people who post here.. who cares if hes paid or not. He still has the position." Exactly right. He volunteers time and has employment doing what he loves. Better than the $40 a day that 99% of the people that post here get on Job Seeker.
LJ
Last year
"Why does marshall nelson need a gig?" - You are kidding right?
I have a question - who is Coach Glossop? Did he play in Perth? I never remember seeing him play or anything?
Anonymous
Last year
Pozoglou to Cougars.
Big move.
Haters gonna hate, but Thwaites and Cooper making moves that make sense.
Big movers in 2021.
id love to see coach Glossop shoot a basketball
More NBL1 news out of cockburn. Ruby Benn signs for 2021.
Anonymous
Last year
worse kept secret Ellyce Ironmonger to Suns.. whos next from Lakeside, Courtney Mansfield, Mia Jacobs...
Anonymous
Last year
Tom Jervis signs with Rockingham! What's their starting five look like down there?
Hussey, Godfrey, J Beard, Hire, Jervis
great to see big tom back in WA
great player and great guy
Anonymous
Last year
Wonder when the last time Jervis touched a ball was?
They'll have a sweet deal, and probably train once a month.
HOW GOOD.
Anonymous
Last year
Cougar women sign Molly Mathews. She's moving over with boyfriend Nic Pozoglou to the club.
Makes sense and makes the girls pretty handy in 2021.
Anonymous
Last year
Cockburn Cougars Women 2021 motto "Congrats on your NBL1 contract and welcome to the Cougar Family, unless you actually are a prior member of the Cougar Fam through our WABL program then no sorry we don't have any spots for you'
Anonymous
Last year
Straight from the online roster tracker
https://nbl1.com.au/news/nbl1-2021-womens-roster-tracker/
Pretty sure the same mob that were there last year (or years prior to that) are still there.
Cowan, De Sousa, Morgan, Dunhill, Muir, Roberts, Graham, Morgan (Tia), Benn.
Does anyone have any Cougars who have missed out because of these signings? Don't think there is any. Please don't say the Taylor sisters.
They've been mediocre for too long (AKA forever), pretty sure it's time to build some depth in that program.
Someone had to do it, and whoever did, was always going to get criticised because there are enough out there who enjoy Cougars being terrible.
But anyway, keep throwing shade because that's what we do on here..
who will alex sharp play for ? im guessing the suns.
jennie rintala to follow tom Knowles to the flames.
Anonymous
Last year
If 823029 isn't TT himself. Make it less obvious mate and we look forward with the new signings to you finally proving you know how to coach rather than ride one medal winning performance with 3 future Australian reps for the next ten years with little to no return. Is there actual skill there or has the mouth / ego just got you everything with very little talent, 2021 will show us all now won't it.
Rintala and M Jacobs to both join Knowles at the Flames in 2021
Billy Bob
Last year
Again, no shame in going for good players.
It's just probably not a great branding exercise to have every second word out of the place 'family’ etc.
Live and learn. New, young passionate people in charge, going to trip up some a long the way.
Anonymous
Last year
823068 - your argument doesn't make sense?
TT is terrible because he only won when he had good athletes.
But now you said 2021 is the chance to actually prove if he has talent because he has good athletes.
Which one is it?
Anonymous
Last year
Pretty sure Flames were using the term 'Family' long before Cougars, but like other coaches offenses - it's not like TT to come up with his own slogan / plays / fashion sense.
Anonymous
Last year
HA! You mean the FlamesFamily slogan that's run for 18 months?
Cougars been running it for 5 years.
Anonymous
Last year
Try 2014 when it was widely used by the women's team in their inaugural Championship run. TT was a men's player for the Flames then so makes sense it's something he "borrowed" too. Maybe the Rocko heirarchy should pay Mad Dog McClennan a contract to KO old mate TT again - who can't come up with his own ideas and slogans, just like he did back in 2014 in front of the Flames bench
Anonymous
Last year
Mia Jacobs is following Ironmonger and Courtney to Suns..
Someone has a beef that's for sure. Also, why do people think that going from WABL to SBL is a simple transition. Of course people are going to recruit. Unfortunately some junior coaches don’t understand that being a good WABL player doesn’t always transition to seniors. They are normally the coaches that boast about how many WABL games they have won. Newsflash - no one cares if you have won 100 WABL championships. Move on. Improve your young athletes, develop them for the future of SBL instead of trying to win every WABL game. Your job as a WABL coach is to develop, not win. Maybe if you got it right then coaches wouldn’t need to recruit as much?
Anyone know what the go is with "restricted" players for NBL1?
Will majority of lynx players will now be considered "restricted" for NBl1?
Steindl, Ciabattoni, Isenbarger, Edwards, J.Wiliams, Clinch-Hoycard, N.Williams, Burrows all played SBL/West Coast Classic 2020.
Alex Sharp, Emma Clarke will be hot prospect for clubs for 2021 also..
Thoughts?
I imagine Garbin will be likely to return to rocko with burrows and ciabattoni already signed..
Anonymous
Last year
Any athlete who played WNBL in 2019/20 - their minutes from that season counts towards their status.
Any athlete who DID NOT play WNBL in 2019/20 - their minutes from THIS season counts towards their status.
On that basis, Perry Lakes will be spewing about Clarke, as will Joondalup about Steindl. Both on track to be restricted.
Maddie Allen also restricted despite not playing this season.
Isenbarger close but unlikely to reach threshold, while Burrows is based on last year so will not be restricted.
Fun and games.
Why is mins from WNBL 19/20 being used as basis for status? Is this WNBL hub season not a "real" season?
"Newsflash - no one cares if you have won 100 WABL championships."
No one cares if you've won SBL championships too
Centrals from Adelaide just announced they've signed import shaquille maharaj who played in WA this year. Seeing how Centrals generally scrape the bottom of the barrel with players, what's he like?
finally some good news down south at Mandurah with the signing of " big ben smith " . lets hope trahair and Mandurah can add 1-2 more players of calibre to their squad.
Shak
Last year
Import LOLLLLLLLLLL Shaq is Aussie, Indian, but Aussie.
Smith is a great get at Mandurah. Instantly one of the best bigs in the league.
Shak
Last year
He will likely average 16-20ppg. May even crack a 36ers DP spot. A lot of potential there.
Isn't there some clause that if a player has played a certain amount of games for the one club they're not considered restricted regardless of the number of minutes played in WNBL/NBL?
^^ Thanks Shak glad you think you will make the 36ers roster as a DP
Shakka Ranks
Last year
Why would Shaq actually post here and under a slightly different name. Lol what.
Anonymous
Last year
Hire announced at Flames.
Not before shopping himself to two other clubs chasing top dollar without having to train.
#loyal
greg4hire
Last year
Greg wouldn't shop around for top dollar, he is a charity man #stitchintime #snitchesgetstitches
Slammers signing anyone?? Worthington coming back for another year or moving on? If he's back surely they can use the name to sign someone of note.
OldTimer
Last year
Just read that Kalgoorlie basketball got a $5m election commitment from WA State Labor party today.
Looks like the Giants men and women will have a new show court to call home in the next couple of years.
Which teams have announced imports for this season?
Hoop Scoop
Last year
I think some clubs are going to be in a world of hurt with no imports being allowed if the story is correct.
I'd say it would be near on impossible to get them into the country without spending thousands. There'd be no working holiday visas available and sports visas wouldn't be high on the priority of the Government, unless there are NBL budgets associated with it.
Anonymous
Last year
Mandurah and Bunbury in big pain if no imports.
Second bottom not a good send off for Milo.
How does that work for imports that are already in the country?
I understand that imports will be allowed but there will be quarantine requirements which add significant cost. wont be an issue for the wolves and flames of the competition but for those who have far smaller budgets you could imagine it would be a dealbreaker
on another note, Trevor Gleeson seen coaching wolves at state champs
Anonymous
Last year
^^ not quite correct.
The main issue is getting immigration to approve the VISA.
Clubs advised to prepare on the basis they won't be approved in time.
So yes they are allowed, but immigration may not let them in. Will prioritise NBL imports, but not NBL1.
Imports will be almost impossible to get if they aren't already here in Australia . Visas are pretty much not going to be made available by the government for potential imports. Teams like Stirling and Perth who have an import already in the Australia are in a much better position than most in this regard. Pretty sure nothing has changed on that front since this past season.
so whilst it is uncertain that visas will be granted or not the League is not mandating that imports aren't allowed?
The league is allowing them, usual restricted player rules apply. Visa's should be the same as usual to get, the difficulty for clubs is the travel exemptions, what quarantining will be with it and cost of flights.
Clubs will likely be chasing players already in the country from NBL or other NBL1 conferences.
Anonymous
Last year
I think clubs maybe chasing players already in country, but from latest releases alot of young players being announced so great opportunities again for them in NBL1 in 2021
Cody Ellis and Caleb Davis signed to return for Warwick 2021.
Manhunt underway for Chudier Pal after a body found in Doubleview.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/manhunt-for-chudier-thowath-pal-after-woman-found-dead-in-burning-doubleview-house-ng-b881759848z
Stand out in a crowd when you're 206cm.
Majier Garang of Goldfields has had his contract terminated and is now a free agent.
His contract was terminated as he informed the club he intended on heading back to Perth and couldn't commit to the upcoming season
Big loss for them,who will they get to replace him.
Anon
Earlier this year
From the Kalgoorlie Miner...
The Goldfields Giants have suffered a significant loss in their tall stocks ahead of the 2021 NBL1 season following the departure of Majier Garang.
Goldfields released Garang from his one-year contract on Tuesday after the 206cm forward made clear his desire to return to Perth for personal reasons.
While Garang was deemed an important part of the club's plans, Giants president Russell Duncan said player welfare needed to be prioritised.
"Majier requested a release from his contract and said he wanted to get back to Perth," Duncan said.
“We’re not going to stop him if he’s not happy in Kalgoorlie anymore.
“Over the last month, maybe before Christmas, he was a bit back-and-forth about what he was doing so we sort of let him make his decision.
“The last week or so when he was talking to (head coach Wayne Creek), basically we ended up saying to him 'look, if you’re going to stay, make the commitment. If not, we’re happy to release you from your playing commitments to us’.
“He then confirmed the decision to move on the other day.
“We definitely wanted him to stay and we told him he was a preferred player.
“It’s a bit unfortunate but player welfare is of the utmost importance.”
Lennon Smartt Assistant Coach in an NBL team is a massive achievement. Not many WA coaches have gone from coaching in state league to become an assistant in the NBL. Why didn't the Wildcats pick him up?
Photos
Earlier this year
I think the Wildcats have quality control.
With season starting about a month later when are teams starting preseason?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougars got a new logo today. Love him or hate him (I'm most often a hater), TT actually can administrate pretty bloody well. Their launch was pro-level quality today, no club is putting out stuff like that. It’s getting attention
if somehow they can translate it onto the NBL1 floor - he’ll administrate at the next level. And it pains me to say that.
Anon
Earlier this year
Giants have announced the signing of former Eastern New Mexico forward, Deng Kuany. Putting a solid Aussie line-up together.
The passive aggressive approach TT, to try and cover the fact it's still you talking yourself up.
FCF
Earlier this year
A lot of the Cockburn stuff is actually Simon Peterson's doing.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Anon 740.
Not sure if you know how teams work.. or how leadership works..
Anon
Earlier this year
Who has the biggest ego?
A. TT
B. Etteridge
C. Lakovic
D. Gleeson
nz nbl
Earlier this year
If NZNBL can get Josh Selby why aren't WABL looking at getting imports at that level or even the NBL1
sounds like a few moving pieces happening in the mens
hawks picking up big Andy Ferg from Lakeside and Willo picking up Vigor also from Lakeside
wolves picked up kiwi joel vaingaina (sorry for the spelling) who played in the blitz for them last year and looked decent.
giants adding a kiwi/Sudanese guy who also looks decent. adding to Atkinson, pesava, Ballantyne, klaztorny and a few other handy players.
Probabaly a smart move by Ferguson. If Prue is back with the lightning wouldn't have left any playing time for him.
Anon
Earlier this year
Giants have picked up a Kiwi AND a Sudanese guy.
Also Hamish Cummings to Giants.
Anon
Earlier this year
Giants
PG Ballantyne/Holloway/Cummings
SG Pesava/Reid/Holloway
SG Atkinson/Klasztorny/Reid
PF Kuany/Atkinson/Klasztorny
C Collins/Kuany
Nice line-up.
Prue is 39 next month and now president of Lakeside... I don't think he'll be going round again.
Anonn
Earlier this year
With so much uncertainty and restriction - who is going to gamble on imports.
Going to be a huge gap between those who get it right and those who don't
Goldfields is a downgrade on last year's team - yet it is an impressive lineup in the circumstances
great work by the giants to bring everyman and dog into town to play for them. I wish them luck.
all they need know is a decent coach.
just ask those that have left after having creek as their coach in his first season.
presidents not allowed to play for their club?
they need a new coach?
creek dragged them out of the gutter and back into the playoffs for the first time in forever
the giants have had a revolving door of coaches over the last 10 years and the majority of them weren't able to achieve success.
my grandma could have coached that giants squad to the playoffs.
go ask pat burke.
^ Ah. So one complaining import had an issue with Creek. Got it
Players like Ballantyne and Klaztorny got plenty of opportunity in Mandurah as far as minutes but had no where near the output they have had since moving to Kal. Coaching must be terrible!
Why are players like Pesava and Atkinson choosing to go there despite almost any metro club willing to take either of them in a heart beat
$$$ and a job / accommodation perhaps? a lot more than they would get at any metro club
perrywinkle
Earlier this year
Is xlilysaffronx going with Hamish????? I wanna keep seeing #datass around Perth.
with clubs not going for imports there is plenty of $$$ going around for local players. Particularly for those with pro experience.
to think Giants would have more $ to offer these guys than the metro clubs is not accurate in current climate.
Wolves and Flames for one are clubs with big budgets for players.
Kalgoorlie isn't the most appealing place to live either.
Creek must be doing something right to attract these players
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Pesava won't go anywhere without good coin!
Pesava only thinks about Pesava.
I think gold mining and supporting businesses are thriving atm (marky keeps telling us) so they have some coin to provide "jobs" etc to players if required
Atkinson working at the local IGA
not something he couldn't do in Perth
Sounds like some former Giants
player with an axe to grind and Creek is his target.
Wow nothing new with a player complaining about a coach.
Move along.
Giants have recruited 4 players.
Dion Collins
Tom Atkinson
Julian Peseva
Deng Kuany
Who else have they recruited to make it every man and his dog ?
Boy from the Bush
Earlier this year
Yeah its one certain player with an axe to grind doing most of the whinging.
Tried to cut his grass to get the job previously and failed then sooked to Perth with his tail between his legs. Been nothing but a snipe ever since.
Hardly just one player current or past whinging about Coach Creek, every season a third turnover and the locals continue to be pushed back. Hard gig being a regional coach
Who's whinging other than one keyboard warrior by the sounds of it.
Giants lost 2 players this past season and recruited accordingly by the looks and now have other players coming to town that want a game.
What local players have been pushed back, there hasn't been a lot of talent out there.
Who cares ok coach, whinging player Giants won't beat the Flames, Hawks or Wolves.
Anon
Earlier this year
So looking at their 2020 team before COVID, the Giants have lost 4 players and replaced them with 4 players - so what's the problem?
Garang >> Collins
Malek >> Deng
Hammell >> Atkinson
Jones >> Pesava
All 4 guys that they've picked up have overseas experience.
They've obviously decided to recruit based on having no imports this year - a wise move it seems, and other clubs (who were relying on imports on 2021) are in trouble.
Anon
Earlier this year
NBL1 West 2021 Pre Season Power Rankings
Rockingham
Warwick
Goldfields
Perry Lakes
Lakeside
Joondalup
Perth
Cockburn
Geraldton
Kalamunda
East Perth
South West
Mandurah
Anon what's the reason for ranking Perry Lakes below the Giants? Serious question.
Have they signed anyone other than Ferguson and Purser?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Pre-season Power rankings NBL1 women
1. Rockingham - Burrows, Ciabattoni, Garbin (availability?)
2. Perry Lakes - McKay, Burton, Sharpe (?)
3. Joondalup - Steindl, Williams, Denehey
4. Cockburn - Edwards, Simmons, Mathews
5. Suns - Roscoe, Mansfield, Williams
6. Warwick - Barr, Hepburn, Hoycard
7. Willetton - Sharpe (?) with any extra signings will compete
8. Lakeside - Isenbarger, Pirini, Clarke, not much else.
9. Redbacks - Allen, Dyer
10. Magic - Milo, Boag, nothing else
11. East Perth - Fejo?
12. Slammers - in big trouble
NBL1 West 2021 Pre Season Power Rankings
Rockingham
Warwick
Perry Lakes
Lakeside
Joondalup
Perth
Goldfields
Cockburn
Geraldton
Kalamunda
East Perth
South West
Mandurah
Why is everyone rating the Slammers higher than the Magic when they've signed Grace, Ben Smith and young Riley Parker?
Who have the Slammers got???
How can rockingham sign Garbin, Cibattoni and Burrows? Aren't all 3 restricted?
not once you have played 150 games for the club
Anonn
Earlier this year
Why is everyone rating Rocko so highly in the men.
Scratch the surface - they will be 5-8 on the ladder
NBL1 West 2021 Pre Season Power Rankings
Warwick
Perry Lakes
Rockingham
Lakeside
Joondalup
Perth
Geraldton
Goldfields
Cockburn
Kalamunda
East Perth
Mandurah
South West
Are you leaving Willetton off your rankings on purpose?
Anon
Earlier this year
It was a test to see who would pick up on it first. It will be very interesting to see what kind of a team Nener can put together in his first season in charge of the club he grew up at. Also nice to see Lakeside finally got their sh!t together and got new rings and backboards - Now if they can just upgrade from the 1994-circa scoreboards on courts 2 - 4 maybe then people might actually enjoy playing rep basketball at the Church.
Vigor is a big in for them if true? Haven't seen anything announced.
Group was never far off. Hopefully shackles come off without a coach trying to over coach every possession.
Burrows not restricted. Her minutes from 19/20 season are what apply to this NBL1 season.
Anyone know who the Slammers have got for 2021?
I can't understand why they are using WNBL season 19/20 as a basic of mins/restricted status? Was this year not considered a "real" season? Being in a hub has no relevance, still played games for points culminating with a finals series..
This years nbl doesn't count towards restricted.
Technically rookies like white and Dejan would be unrestricted
Vigor replaces Lewis Thomas at Willo. They move sideways with that deal.
koberulz
Earlier this year
I can't understand why they are using WNBL season 19/20 as a basic of mins/restricted status? Was this year not considered a "real" season? Being in a hub has no relevance, still played games for points culminating with a finals series..Because the lack of imports and some significant local talent meant players who wouldn't normally be anywhere near being restricted ended up playing significant minutes.
Purser 3, Thomas 4 and Ferguson 5, not a bad front court for the Hawks this year
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Hawks spending the cash on both sides - Doccy and Parsons better deliver!!
Do the women have any guards? Pretty big team of non shooters
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Let's be honest, Parsons can’t win without cash.
That’s why he left Cockburn remember? Cash dried up.
Anon
Earlier this year
Could be one of the most uneducated comments to appear on this thread..
parsons never had cash to begin with at Cockburn. still won
hawks would have a smaller budget than rockingham, Joondalup, gero, goldfields and will still probably beat all of them.
Anonn
Earlier this year
That's easy to say - but some of the hawks signings shopped themselves around to the highest bidder. Hawks didn't sign them with small budgets.
Anonn
Earlier this year
Parsons always claiming the underdog status
Anonymous
Earlier this year
And Sorry, Parsons took Cockburn sponsorship money and tipped straight into the program. Helps when your boy Grover was SBL director. It was when they couldn't pay him the $10k that he thought he was worth, he quit.
Heart and balls boys, heart and balls. That’s the catch cry that wins championships. Hope they know their selfless coach will support them until he wants more money.
Bet Parsons is flat Trev hasn’t rung him yet.
Anon
Earlier this year
Haha I'm sure you’re in Parsons inner circle to know how much money he was offered
Cockburn offered more but he didn’t want the politics so he went to Perry Lakes for less.
But your story sounds far more interesting
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Hahahahahahaha.
Went to Perry Lakes for less??
Hahahahahahaha.
Cockburn nearly shut its doors in 2016, and Parsons wouldn't settle for less than 10.
Tell yourself whatever you like - not true.
Anons
Earlier this year
Sounds like some serious sour grapes
Who even cares why he left if he got more money elsewhere then good on him
Move on
Cant believe that people are still whining 5yrs on about a person leaving a club for a better opportunity and a better working environment.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Does anyone know what TT has done? Does he just sit in his office on fb? I'm guessing Simon moved there because he wanted to fix Cockburn’s problems TT created? That’s correct isn’t it?
Me
Earlier this year
Jonathan Wade to Joondalup Wolves. Currently in Victoria
https://www.twopoints.it/players/player/jonathan-wade/
Anonn
Earlier this year
Wow. So much for not having imports this season. How did they find someone who played Eurocup last year?
I think the question is 'how did you federal government let him in, when there are aussie all over the world wanting to get back into the country but can't'
Perthworld
Earlier this year
Wow, Wolves are the most organised association in all of NBL1. Nice work.
Perthworld the Wolves aren't really that organized. Wade was offered to numerous teams. The other teams he got offered to all passed.
Anonn
Earlier this year
Why would you pass on wade? Makes no sense to me.
Parsons best coach in the SBL easily.
Won championships at 2 clubs without the best playing list.
No brainer.
Tyrone doing unbelievable job, why the hate?
All numbers up across the board, does Petersen help that?
100%, and is he the main driving force, who knows maybe.
But well done on Tyrone or ever got him to the club.
Dont understand why the hate the club is flying so well done!
Andrew
Earlier this year
USA to WA Wolves sign their first import Jonathan Wade
The Joondalup Wolves are excited to announce the signing of Jonathan Wade for the 2021 NBL1 West season.
The 6'5" guard born in the United States is about to make a name for himself in Western Australia. Signing with the Wolves for the NBL1, Jonathan is our first American import for the 2021 season. Jonathan played Division 1 college basketball at Norfolk State University where he averaged 19.3 ppg as a Senior. Since college he has played professionally in Europe where he spent two seasons with Pully Basket in Switzerland and Z Mobile Prishtina in the Kosovo Super League. Prior to COVID Jonathan had signed to play with Hawkes Bay in the NZNBL. The Wolves are looking forward to Jonathan joining us for the NBL1 season and can’t wait to see what he can bring to the league in 2021.
Jonathan spoke to the Joondalup Wolves about signing with the Wolves and becoming a part of the NBL1 in 2021.
"One of the main reasons that I signed with the Wolves is their level of professionalism. The communication from the coaching staff, facilities and how we connected right away was big for me. Also knowing that they have a culture of winning is what I want to be a part of and to be able to potentially play for a Championship is exciting.”
“I am really excited to be a part of the NBL1 and playing in the NBL1 West. Before I got to Australia, I always heard good things about the league when I was in Europe. I told myself last year that I wanted to play in this league and show what I can do and now it is a reality!” Added Wade.
Joondalup Wolves CEO and Men’s Head Coach Andrew Summerville shared his thoughts on Jonathan joining the Wolves for the 2021 NBL1 West season.
“Getting Jonathan was huge for our club. With the current environment and travel restrictions, getting American imports this year was always going to be a challenge. We were fortunate to find Jonathan who although being an American, currently lives in Melbourne with his Australian wife Kiara. Jonathan has been on our radar for 2 years and this year was the right time to sign him. Over the holiday period I had a coffee with him in Melbourne and we hit it off straight away.”
“He fits our needs perfectly, he can play multiple positions, can shoot the ball, defend and rebound at an elite level. His versatility will give us many options, but his unselfishness will compliment our other players perfectly. He is a mature, intelligent, well-rounded man and I can’t wait to coach him.” Added Summerville.
Jonathan will be joining Lochlan Cummings, Seb Salinas, Reece Maxwell, Joel Vaiangina, Hamish Warden and Jordan Wellsteed on the Wolves Men’s 2021 roster.
https://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=0-892-0-0-0&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=70635072
Anon
Earlier this year
Any truth to the rumour of Mathiang Muo to the Buccs (where he was supposed to play in 2020) ??
Also heard that Wundenberg and Ralph are finally out.
Struggletown for Gero this year.
The Insider
Earlier this year
Early picks for 2021:
1. Senators
Defending champs (well WCC at least) getting everyone back plus more.
2. Flames
Jervis/Hire/Beard/Durnin/Godfrey/Hussey is a quality line-up.
3. Hawks
'Big' frontcourt plus solid shooters and guards surrounding them.
4. Wolves
Active offseason and have a couple more rabbits to pull out.
5. Redbacks
Egos the only thing holding them back.
6. Giants
Picked up some quality Aussies.
7. Cougars
Pozoglou and Hunt are good additions.
8. Eastern Suns
Top-8 if Timms plays, bottom-6 if he doesn't.
9. Tigers
Lost a couple of key players and no replacements apart from a Vigorous rumour.
10. Lightning
No news out of Lakeside apart from who they have lost.
11. Buccaneers
No Hunt, no Shaw, no Ralph, no Wundenberg, no chance.
12. Eagles
No announcements but not looking good.
13. Magic
Smith and Grace replace Atkinson and Hunt in a team that finished 1-12. Same same.
14. Slammers
Same as Eagles but with even less depth.
Who have Tigers lost? Sounds like same team, swapped Vigor for Thomas?
What egos are you talking about at Perth? Seems like a bit of an unnecessary dig to be honest.
Perthworld
Earlier this year
Perthworld the Wolves aren't really that organized. Wade was offered to numerous teams. The other teams he got offered to all passed.
Oh ok he must be bad then as it's not the right time as a club to be choosey with the whole COVID situation?
Anon
Earlier this year
Fletcher Klasztorny, Jerome Reid and Brandon Holloway back for the Giants according to their Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/GoldfieldsGiants/posts/3620821298030440
Seven players signed so far:
C - Collins
F - Kuany
F - Atkinson
F - Klasztorny
G - Reid
G - Pesava
G - Holloway
Would assume some more to come such as Ballantyne, Cummings, Lawrence etc.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
A lot of announcements these last few days.
Current men's and women’s power rankings?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Can someone also teach Willetton how to do social media?
It's embarrassing how bad it is. Even South-West are better.
** cue the boomers who say social media doesn’t mean anything **
They run a wicked full court press in U12's though.
Do any teams have two imports announced? Is it just Lakeside?
be fair though, they're token imports having been here for a number of years.
bringing in genuine imports seems like a pipe dream this season.
The Insider
Earlier this year
Yep, two imports who are already in Perth is a big plus. Clubs relying on getting a couple in from overseas have no chance this year.
How are they token imports? In Australia or not, still classified as restricted
lakeside have 2 legitimate imports in bowie and isenbarger
armour back from knee injury
some great emerging talent in guards malseed, pearson and patterson
still have paleschi and lee who are handy role players
So it's OK to bring in an import for NBL West but not NBL1 South?
Can't read KR? "USA to WA Wolves sign their first import Jonathan Wade"
Wade based in Melbourne. Already in the country.
This is getting ridiculous. Can people not only read words, but comprehend them?
koberulz
Earlier this year
Can't read KR? "USA to WA Wolves sign their first import Jonathan Wade"Why on earth would I assume you were talking about Wade when the topic of discussion the last several posts has been Bowie and Isenbarger?
NZ NBL granted exemptions for imports under critical worker status
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/300223889/huge-boost-for-new-zealands-nbl-critical-workers-exemptions-granted-for-imports
Should this be considered for NBL1 by Australian gov?
Do you think semi professional players count as critical workers??
American imports are not semi professional. they may play in a semi professional league but they would be essentially paid professionals.
is any athlete a critical worker?
the NBL have been able to get American imports for their league. would the same principles not apply?
Again,
The governments directive on this is that they aren't critical for a second-tier league. Which is what they have told BA/NBL1.
New Zealand, in case you've forgotten, is a different country, with different immigration rules.
#458, you would think the rules would be the same but scumo bunch of mates saying it's not. Chargers are now trying to approach the federal government to get some guard in. If allowed it’ll be interesting to see who pays all the dollars for flights, quarantine etc, that’s probably 10g already before wages, accommodation etc.
the NBL is a second tier league compared to many others around the globe
Top tier league in this country, where our government regulates who comes and doesn't.
Disappointing that there isn't going to be some official preseason tournament aka the Blitz this season. Anyone know any reasons why or what other clubs will be doing to prepare - assume scratch matches for Metro clubs
because it's a waste of time and a long weekend
Lukosius
Earlier this year
There will be no Blitz this year due to the timing of the season.
Historically the Blitz is held on the Labour Day long weekend at the beginning of March, which has generally been 2 weeks before round 1 - perfect timing for a pre-season tournament.
But with this season not starting until the middle of April, it's a bit pointless holding a pre-season tournament 6-7 weeks before round 1. Some clubs haven't even started full training yet.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Season will probably start late next year too.
Most clubs don't want Blitz (except Country clubs, which is understandable)
Samantha Lubcke & Alex Sharp have signed with the Willetton Tigers.
Handy pickups. Pretty well rounded squad.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Willetton well rounded? Not one real big. Better hope Adelaide girl is legit.
Fixtures out. NBL1 West section of the website still not finished/working
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Anyone else see Cougars lame as video released tonight?
Peto
Earlier this year
Dang, how can you hate on that? Not as bad as Ian Yong and Glossop.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Wow, we've sunk low on Cougars hate now. Scraping the barrel.
That video is so good! Good to see someone being proactive
Good to have a crack at being professional, what's the message from the video though?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Up to you to interpret one would guess.
Looks like an attempt at a broad overview of the club.
Reckon a few more will jump on and likely use as the opening ad for NBL1 live streams that they are allowed to have
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Personally think its great for the game that cougars are been proactive. Havent seen many other clubs doing good consistent media campaigns and engagements. To be honest they are starting to set an expectation on what can be done while a lot of clubs are still trying to figure out what they want to be with 9 weeks to produce.
Are east perth a part of NBL1? no player signings or announcements?
Setting an expectation of how to have a slogan which you daily contradict yourself on, not sure everyone wants to follow that and a lot are keeping head down and bum up, not worrying about poaching other clubs juniors etc
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Hahahaha. Those people still going on about poaching juniors. Let it go, never happened.
They just put up another vid last night. I agree with the other anon, they're pushing the boundaries of content for the league and it’s great
Never happened but magically lead the state in clearances to?
Themselves and few others stand out looking at those numbers.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Lead the state in inbound clearances - correct.
Do you think they're on the phone to every parent in the state? hahahaha.
Maybe there's a reason they actually want to move to begin with..
Jesus, people are dumb.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
People move clubs for different reasons, no issues there. But if you are leading inbound clearances every year, then just own it and maybe tone down the family club stuff, because it doesn't really align with where your players come from compared to other clubs who don't lead the inbound clearances every year.
#cougarfamily
Where 'family' means we steal your juniors #cougarfamily
Bad luck if your a cougar jnr
Juniors from elsewhere go there for snr opportunity, last time either SBL program played finals?
Mandurah magic looking for a new women's coach after the resignation of Craig watts as head coach after just one season / two but does the wc classic really count no. the number of departures and resignations from that club both on/off the court is astonishing .
Anon
Earlier this year
Cant wait to see what Cougars BIG announcement is at Wally Hagan this saturday... who will be there?
Anon
Earlier this year
They've agreed to pay Travers the 800/week he was asking multiple clubs for. Not really a big announcement
Sorry but Travers isnt getting local MPs down.. it has to be a funding/stadium announcement or something. Something local community driven.
Anonn
Earlier this year
Yep. Stadium announcement by liberals. Without Labor matching it, it won't be worth much.
applications open for Mandurah magic coaching position , up on their webpage , interesting however applications close on the mon22nd - they have someone already selected im guessing.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Would say it's a smart move by Cougars. Leverage the opposition into a commitment Labor needs to match.
Libs don’t put any money into fremantle, ever. It’ll put Labor on notice
Usually I would agree but.. why does Labor need to match? Theres about negative 4% chance the Liberals win this election.
Anon
Earlier this year
Must be the new tactic clubs are having to resort to, get opposing political parties promising clubs what they want...
A re-elected McGowan Labor Government will deliver $253,335 fund sporting groups across the Joondalup electorate.
Recipients include:
Joondalup Wolves Basketball Association to receive $30,000 to purchase
a dedicated vehicle;
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Because the community will turn on them if they don't
Same reason they matched the libs commitment to east freo oval
Anonn
Earlier this year
It's not a new tactic. It happens every election cycle.
The parties don't automatically match commitments. Labor won't be concerned about Freo heartland.
Expect labor to consider matching at the federal election in 18 months time.
Perthworld
Earlier this year
Strange, since Labor already committed funds to the Wolves late last year. But who doesn't want even more?
Perthworld
Earlier this year
Okay, I've just realised the copy-and-paste was a rehash of last year's commitment. Even I have to admit that Wolves do seem to get more than their fair share.
Wolves need extra share to cover NBL1 player payments
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Libs give $4 mill to Cockburn, on top of the City's $15M - that facility will be legit!!
Lets hope for the sport Labor match.
Good lobbying effort by Ty and the Cougs
Ffs wolves now taking bought not built to another level this year
Anonymous
Earlier this year
To a whole new level
Apart from Ironmonger - any locals on that squad?
at least wolves aren't claiming #wolvesfamily lol
Because they have 1 import and a couple paid locals?
Anonn
Earlier this year
And because the wolves re-signed players from last year and signed an import and two eastern states based locals.
Buccs are rumoured to be in talks with Todd Blanchfield
Anon
Earlier this year
More than talks. Expect him and possibly a DP to be playing for the Buccs
Big Aidan Gardiner coming back from HS in USA before heading off to University of Montavello in Alabama. Would be great to see him get a few games in with the buccs before he goes
Family club signed a Perry Lakes junior?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Maybe they welcomed him into their Family because his former one didn't speak to him for the 12 months he was in Canberra..
Blanchfield definitely signing with the Buccs?
And who are the NBL names that Worthington May be speaking with to bring them to the South West
NBL players will be fascinating. They would have much bigger offers than usual due to the lack of imports. But with the NBL season runnning into June or whatever, if teams rely on them will they even make playoffs?
Ducas bringing Kiwi boys Dan Fotu and Quinn Clinton with him to the Buccs when they finish their season at Saint Mary's
Knowall
Earlier this year
If true they be the best kiwis to play in the west yet. Quinn knows how to put the ball in the hoop and Dan is one of the smartest from Aotearoa.
I think that is a big call Knowall. Im sure the bball docta will have something to say about this
Whoever it is saying Ducas and the kiwi college team mates are playing NBL1 in the off season is a ridiculous comment. Unless they are all giving up on college careers. NCAA rules won't allow them to play in the off season.
Ducas can 100% play NBL1 and still keep college eligibility from NCAA.
anonymous
Earlier this year
think u would find the D1 guys would have 4-6 weeks break before heading back to summer school and getting ready for the next year.
Highly unlikely that NBL1 is on their radar
No D1 players can play anywhere in their off season.
Buccs are notorious for breaking the rules so wouldn't surprise if true
Feel free to ruin the kids college career. It's not a ba rule, it’s an ncaa rule.
do Redbacks use the family slogan? With the way the coach plays his daughters it is very fitting
Bringing out imports on incorrect (and illegal). Also cash payments for players as to avoid salary cap
Perthworld
Earlier this year
"Incorrect (and illegal)" what? Visas?
Has there been an pre season games yet?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougars v Lakeside men
Cougars v Redbacks women
both last night
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougar men win by a bit
Cougar women by 15
Anonymous
Earlier this year
No pozoglou for Cougars, Lakeside definitely not full strength
No Molly Mathews for Cougars, no Dyer/Allen for Redbacks
anonymous
Earlier this year
I wouldn't think there is much effort put in by clubs to cheat the salary cap.
There are always accusations that teams are going over the so called cap, and sometimes it is probably true.
Unless things have changed, all contracts are delivered to BWA in a sealed envelope and are not opened unless there is a formal enquiry. I'm not sure this has ever happened.
Then there is the 'flexibility' for clubs to pay for other activities that don't count to the salary. Some clubs are more creative here than others (I have heard a big club once had a player being paid as personal trainer for a board member...)
I highly doubt any club is bringing imports out on 'illegal' visa and risking being on wrong side of immigration department.
cash is king!
timms at redbacks
vigor at willetton
heard parkinson is back for lakeside
No Pozoglou or Holmes for Cougars
No Davey for Lakeside - Shervill not back for months
Suns and Cougars no chance of top 4 in the women.
Flames
Tigers
Hawks
Wolves
Anon
Earlier this year
"Is d-league happening this year?"
14 mens teams
11 womens teams (no Slammers, Magic or Buccs)
Anon
Earlier this year
Potential starting 5's based on who has been signed so far...
* Import
Cougars
C - Holmes
F - Field
F - Rogers
G - Pozoglou
G - Chan
Eagles
C - Kearing
F - Thwaites
F - Offereins
G - Berry
G - Filpo
Buccaneers
C - Paringatai
F - Inger
F - Muo
G - Mines *
G - Narkle
Giants
C - Collins
F - Kuany
F - Atkinson
G - Pesava
G - Holloway
Wolves
C - Huntington
F - Vaiangina
F - Wade *
G - Formosa
G - Cummings
Eastern Suns
C - Blanchett
F - Johnson *
G - Reath
G - Dinardo
G - Aylett
Lightning
F - Davey
F - Shervill
F - Bowie *
G - Isenbarger *
G - Armour
Magic
C - Smith
F - Simpson
F - Cannell
G - Parker
G - Grace
Hawks
C - Ferguson
F - Thomas
F - Purser
G - Smith
G - Clarke
Redbacks
C - Timms
F - Gattorna
F - White *
G - Nelson
G - Wagner
Flames
C - Jervis
F - Hire
F - Durnin
G - J.Beard
G - Godfrey
Slammers
C - Pickwood-Pitt
F - Keller
G - England
G - Barrett
G - Richardson
Senators
C - Davis
F - Ellis
G - King *
G - Swaka Lo Buluk
G - Wroe
Tigers
C - Vigor
F - Elder
G - Scott
G - Mincherton
G - Black
Anony Mouse
Earlier this year
If the teams were stay like that, my predictions would be
1. Wolves
2. Senators
3. Flames
4. Hawks
5. Lightning (Shervill not available for a while)
6. Giants
7. Cougars
8. Redbacks (White won't get back in the country)
9. Tigers
10. Eastern Suns
11. Buccs
12. Magic
13. Eagles
14. Slammers
Knowall
Earlier this year
Ingres signed for a club back home playing in NZNBL
Perth in trouble, marshall nelson playing overseas at the moment, will miss first 6-8 games
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougars men beat strong wolves team by 15 tonight
Anonn
Earlier this year
A strong wolves team - or just part of their squad?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
A strong wolves team m. All key local athletes apart from any not in the state yet
so cockburn dont have room for Travers in the starting 5 according to above poster. ok.
holmes is out long term with injury anyway so that wasnt going to happen
holmes is out long term with injury anyway so that wasnt going to happen
Anon
Earlier this year
Travers hasn't signed, probably why he isn't listed above.
If he signs with the Flames, they'll be hard to beat.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Travers signing with Flames?? hahahahahahahahaha.
Not a chance. If he plays NBL1 it'll be with Cockburn. Just a question of whether he stays in Perth in the off-season.
Anyone who tries anything else is wasting their breath.
Anyone know how many minutes Petrik spent supporting juniors at grading this past 4 weeks???
My guess, donuts.
With just over 4 weeks till round 1, any early predictions for NBL1 West champs?
Anon
Earlier this year
Anon 141 probably about the same amount of time that hanging with Mr Cooper did for Cockburn juniors watching grading - People in glass houses hey! Ryan and Brad both speak with Trav regularly and given roughly half of trav's team is still training with the nbl1 squad... All bar one who have all come up with the one club unlike others spruiking on here, then it's safe to say that Ryan is more than aware of what's happening in the junior ranks. You lot just worry about which club you're poaching from next in your adopted "family"
heard the cockburn men have been beating everyone they have played in the practice games so far
any word on cockburn women?
Knowall
Earlier this year
Preseason means what. Chance to try new combos, give new players a run to see if they are capable of getting regular minutes in coming season. Generally those who boast about wins preseason do so cause they know that come the season wins are going to be few and far between.
Anon
Earlier this year
My final 6 is:
1. Wolves
2. Senators
3. Flames
4. Hawks
5. Giants
6. Redbacks
Lightning miss out on the top-6 because of uncertainty over Shervill's availability, and the status of the two injury-prone imports, plus Armour who's coming off an ACL injury.
Breaking the playoffs down:
1ST ROUND
(1) Top half of the draw:
Wolves (1st) vs Hawks (4th)
C - Huntington vs Ferguson - Ferguson wins
F - Vaiangina vs Thomas - Even
F - Wade vs Purser - Even
G - Formosa vs Smith - Formosa wins
G - Cummings vs Clarke - Cummings wins
Wolves get the win.
Senators (2nd) vs Flames (3rd)
C - Davis vs Jervis - Even
F - Ellis vs Hire - Hire wins
F - King vs Durnin - King wins
G - Swaka Lo Buluk vs Beard - SLB wins
G - Wroe vs Godfrey - Godfrey wins
Senators just get the win due to home court advantage.
(2) Bottom half of the draw
Giants and Redbacks make it through against the 7th and 8th-placed teams. No White for Redbacks though as I don't reckon he will come back.
2ND ROUND
Hawks (4th) vs Giants (5th)
C - Ferguson vs Collins - Ferguson wins
F - Thomas vs Kuany - Kuany wins
F - Purser vs Atkinson - Purser wins
G - Smith vs Pesava - Pesava wins
G - Clarke vs Holloway - Even
Hawks just get the win due to home court advantage.
Flames (3rd) vs Redbacks (6th)
C - Jervis vs Timms - Even
F - Hire vs Gattorna - Hire wins
F - Durnin vs Jackson - Even
G - Beard vs Nelson - Nelson wins
G - Godfrey vs Wagner - Godfrey wins
Flames get the win
3rd ROUND
Wolves (1st) vs Flames (3rd)
C - Huntington vs Jervis - Even
F - Vaiangina vs Hire - Hire wins
F - Wade vs Durnin - Wade wins
G - Formosa vs Beard - Formosa wins
G - Cummings vs Godfrey - Even
Wolves get the win
Senators (2nd) vs Hawks (4th)
C - Davis vs Ferguson - Even
F - Ellis vs Thomas - Even
F - King vs Purser - Even
G - Swaka Lo Buluk vs Smith - SLB wins
G - Wroe vs Clarke - Even
A tight one but the Senators get the bickies.
GRAND FINAL
Wolves vs Senators
Anyone's pick.
No tigers? Bringing back key guys. Got rid of underperforming coach. Their last three years results aren't complete picture of what they could be.
Should be 6-8 contention.
Anon
Earlier this year
Who are these 'key guys'?
Vigor comes in for Thomas and that's it by the looks of it, where all teams above them have got better.
Where are their points going to come from outside of Vigor and Scott?
8th to 10th in my eyes, maybe lower.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
It's top 8 not too 6
Any rankings on the women?
Whats happening with the league website and social media? Month out from the season.. the old SBL website has been left untouched since the NBL1 merge (probably for historical sakes, makes sense). The NBL1West link on the NBL1 website is still broken. The Nbl1west facebook page has had about 2 posts in the past month. Some teams are yet to announce any players. Games would have usually started this past weekend..
Anon
Earlier this year
Now that the usual scape goats have left the coaching ranks (Vale Lakovic and Ettridge), who is going to cop the attention of the forum for the inaugural NBL1 West season? Surely it has to be Parsons @ Hawks? After choking in the WCC grand final (who would leave their star out there in a 4pt game, 8 min to go after he gets his 4th foul?). Or will it be the prodigal son who's returned to his home stomping ground to return the club to its glory days? Can the CEO/Head Coach despot from the land of Green become the target? Who's your $$ on?
Armaforce
Earlier this year
LOL don't worry about Kyle Armour. He is looking almost 100%. Has been giving people the business in local leagues i.e. Chan.
I hear the NBL1 are slow as all hell in getting the West website up and running. It was supposed to be active at the start of this month. Not much bwa can do I assume...
All platforms come out of head office in Victoria. Hearing and seeing what a debacle bigV has been in their first week, I think nbl1 are in over their head right now and struggling to deliver everything they promised.
Any naming rights sponsor yet?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Anothe prac game tonight Cougars v Wolves women.
Wolves by 11. Wolves at full strength, Cougars missing Mathews. Great fun to watch!
Single digit game until last minute.
Not when it is administered by the same guy....
Head of nbl1 nationally, the guy rolling out all the promises, is now also the head of bigV in Victoria.
BigV are using all of the same streaming and new stats platforms that nbl1 teams have been told of a few weeks ago.
Round 1 of bigV has been an absolute shambles.
yikes, I stand corrected and just saw big V apology for the shambles. hopefully they sort before NBL1 starts.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
There is a lot they need to apologise for, the lack of website implementation, lack of training, support and testing of the new online web page stats program they have to use, still waiting for the updates on training using the new camera set up... with 6 weeks before tip off miracles can be worked..
Anonymous
Earlier this year
With the Under 20 Aus Champs going ahead in May and and some great juniors contracted to play in the NBL1 West been selected, they have provisionally been advised they will be unavailable from Round 2 - 5. How will this impact on some of the teams if they unable to participate in NBL1 games.
Any team relying on 18/19 year old to be competitive is probably already in trouble?
True, however with 2 mens teams going it may test a clubs depth and maybe create more issue for the dleague teams. On girls side there is possibly 1 or 2 clubs that will lose a starter.
I presume the round 2-5 is in case there is a change in the border rules and they have to quarantine on return.
Lets be honest here, the U20 players being away will have absolutely no bearing on nearly every team in NBL1 west (men).
Senators no
Wolves no
Flames no
Lakeside no
Hawks no
Giants no
Buccs no
Redbacks no
Tigers no
Eagles no
Suns no
Cockburn maybe
Magic yes but they arent winning more than 2-3 games anyway
Slammers yes but they arent winning more than 2-3 games either
less than a month to go for inaugural NBL1 west. prediction time!
MVP:
MIP:
DPOY:
COY:
CHAMPS:
WOODEN SPOON:
Red74
Earlier this year
MVP: Marshall Nelson
MIP: Mitch Clarke
DPOY: Ben Purser
COY: Andy Cooper
CHAMPS: Rockingham
WOODEN SPOON: East Perth
Wolves will add a second import. Already signed.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
MVP: Alex Sharp
MIP: Tia Morgan
DPOY: Megan McKay
COY: the forum's most hated man
CHAMPS: Perry Lakes
WOODEN SPOON: South West
MVP: Jack Isenbarger
MIP: Luke Travers
DPOY: Ben Purser
COY: Matt Parsons
CHAMPS: Senators
WOODEN SPOON: Slammers
Cookie Monster
Earlier this year
MIP - Travers
Who has he signed for people? Not Cockburn who have a full roster. Not Rockingham who have just completed their roster with two players of African heritage. Doesn't leave many other options given the price tag that was associated with him in the off-season
Yeah he won't win it again if he only plays a handful of games. Is this just his agent posting here?
I'm from SA just wondering what we can expect from Ernest Ross, Dave Humphries and Bryan Michaels. I see all 3 have signed in the central league.
Firebug
Earlier this year
Now I am one of two things - Someone who is a parent of a long term Rockingham wabl player and two, somebody who knows TT and admires what he has done at the Cougars. That being said, I find it rather alarming when on a scorebench at the McIntyre Moore Cup being held at Mike Barnett today when a Cougars parent gets angry with us as a club because according to TT in his role as GM, he has blamed the Flames for not wanting to use computers today for scoring purposes and instead use paper scoresheets like the olden days. This is in direct conflict to what he told the Flames WABL Committee when he said his parents were not organised enough to register in time when notified two weeks ago by our WABL Director, yet somehow the Flames had all of our players registered in under three days. I get you would rather blame another club than admit you didn't trust your own members to be organised enough to register, but in this instance Tyrone you have once again shown your lack of professionalism at times when you could just admit you are human, you made a mistake and everyone just moves forward. Otherwise that Cougars Family you so proudly boast about may turn on you when they hear you bad mouthing them to other clubs, particulary your southern rivals.
Sir, this is a maccas drive through.....
Anonymous
Earlier this year
This is hilarious. TT will need security soon with the amount of haters on here.
And because of a scoring issue too, Gee whiz.
Have a beer with the guy. You'll actually find he’s genuine and one of the brightest sporting admin minds basketball has.
Sure he’s passionate, assertive and decisive, but he’s far from unprofessional.
Those sort of statements just highlight ignorance from this watching in the distance.
He’s the reason Simon Petersen left lakeside.
He’s the reason Gavin Field gets paid for the first time in his career.
He’s the reason the club is in the most sustainable position in its history.
We need more people like him, not less.
So get back in your box, unless you want more administrators like East Perth and Bunbury.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Wow Rockingham people are embarrassing hahahaha
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Someone help out this rocko parent. Listening to 1 parent and assuming that's what TT told the members haha.
Every single manager got a message from Him explaining Cougars wanted to use paper so parents didn’t have to register into a database for the 800th time. But you keep doing you Flames parent.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Or if you want to talk unprofessional how's the Flames President stopping a 20’s game for cougars having 12 players, forcing the refs to dish out two technicals, only to be corrected and told he’s an imbecile and that you can have 12.
Glass houses something something
It is very TT to say one thing to make himself look good, but then when standing in front of a committee to say nothing and fold like a deck chair
the flames wanted to run pointless matches off the scoring system when they weren't even going to be made public. was going to be a massive waste of time so TT told them to shove it and just use paper, which makes sense.
This is an NBL1 WEST thread right? It seems I have mistaken it for a Cockburn v Rockingham thread or a TT is a good guy/bad guy thread. If you want to rant about that stuff just start another thread maybe.
Any thoughts out of the willo spiders games last night?
Hawks-Cougars pre-season games Tuesday night, one at Bendat and the other and Cockburn.
Willetton men's looked a lot better than what they’ve offered the last few years. Breath of fresh air for most of those guys that have been over coached for nothing the last few season. Clarke looks very handy.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Anyone else notice Rockingham men only have 3 locals in their team?
#flamesfamily
Matty
Earlier this year
Are teams final rosters out, didn't know anyone had 20 signed players yet. Post the link for us
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Locals who will suit up **
Come on Matty, token signings that won't suit up a game don’t count.
We know Petrik has no interest in kids, only winning.
He will tell you to your face he’s not there to develop anyone
The trolls who have nothing better to do on a Sunday night. Such a sad life
Scored more than they did. Down 14-2 to start the game also and came back.
Willo have severely underperformed the last few years and the right change has been made. It wasn't the roster....
Anony
Earlier this year
A full strength Redbacks womens team beat a Willo d-league team. Was great to see simon parker give his juniors a run and his seniors watching and supporting but think redbacks showed the best that they will be this season
The roster tracker has been quietly updated with a bunch of unannounced players
https://nbl1.com.au/news/nbl1-2021-mens-roster-tracker/
I'm from SA just wondering what we can expect from Ernest Ross, Dave Humphries and Bryan Michaels. I see all 3 have signed in the central league.
Bump. Also interested in this.
Hunter Clarke will make Willo much better. A good glue guy that can do a bit of everything
Michaels is legit. Whoever signed him has a gem there. Should be in the NBL
Ross gets numbers but is a bit like a westbrook type. not necessarily someone who transforms a team into a winner. but he will get numbers.
Humphries is handy and will definitely be a good player there. i think he had some issues with his body when he was playing for the Giants here. but he was productive
Thank you for that. Michael's and Ross have signed at the same club so that will be interesting.
any NBL1 West clubs successful in getting one of these 50 visas that immigration supposedly made available?
bigdroppa
Earlier this year
Is there a box score for the Tigers vs Redbacks game?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Is there a box score for the Tigers vs Redbacks game?
Womens 80-72 Redbacks won
Mens 86-72 Willo won
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougars v Hawks
Men - Cougars win by 20+ (no Pozoglou, no Thomas)
Women - Hawks by 6 (no Mathews/Morgan/Muir, no Renkema)
I saw women's game and that was fun to watch!
bigdroppa
Earlier this year
Any idea of who scored what? Willo vs Redbacks
Cougars won by 8 pts in the men - they shot the 3 ball very well and looked very organised at both ends
Carnage at Rockingham. Garbin signs with Frankston.
Another troll from TT
while she is on the east coast for olympic camps Garbin will play there. After the olympics she will play at Flames. Anyone educated in basketball knew that would happen in an olympic year
cockburn people need to get a life
Are players allowed to opt out of contracts like that?
Anonn
Earlier this year
After Olympics she won't have played enough games to qualify
Anonn
Earlier this year
After Olympics she won't have played enough games to qualify for finals
koberulz
Earlier this year
Are the fixtures available anywhere? NBL1 website doesn't exist, SBL website is dead.
westaus
Earlier this year
https://basketballwa.asn.au/nbl1-to-return-in-2021-with-blockbuster-schedule/
https://basketballwa.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/NBL1-Fixture_WEST-V62.pdf
google - nbl1 west fixtures
1st link
https://cdn.nbl1.com.au/spacepod/images/nbl1-fixture-west-634026998-v6.1-1.pdf
also, nbl1 west does exist now
https://nbl1.com.au/west
koberulz
Earlier this year
Well that's a start, but the fixture page doesn't exist.
All teams now have their own NBL1 website up and running now.
With the season less than 2 weeks out, I wonder how many clubs are actually organised and ready for NBL1 compliance come game night. Many teams in pre-season games wearing old SBL branded uniforms etc.
Lets hope all club administration is organised or it will be a bad look for round 1...
Majier Garang suited up and played for Joondalup in their pre-season game this afternoon. Thought he was signed with Giants?
Anon
Earlier this year
Garang left the Giants months ago and signed for Norwood Flames in the NBL Central. Was released by the Flames after two weeks and now back in Perth.
The Insider
Earlier this year
I went and saw the Suns vs Giants and Wolves vs Giants games this weekend, and this is my take on the recruits for each team, and what I think of each teams' prospects.
Results:
The Giants lost both games in overtime after holding double-digit leads in both contests.
EASTERN SUNS
Import Johnson is a solid unit who could average a double-double this year. Can score inside/outside and is a good pick-up for the Suns. Ex-Eagle Reath can shoot the ball but took shots he shouldn't have which hurt the team at times. Ex-Redbacks swingman Bank Majok and ex-Eagles guard Malie were non-factors.
The Suns were missing Carl Aylett and Corey Easley and they will certainly add depth. However, despite beating the Giants in OT, they don't really have that x-factor and I struggle to see them better that 8th-10th.
GIANTS
Pesava is a big signing for the Giants and will be their best player, and one of the best players in the comp. Atkinson was a bit down in the first game after getting into foul trouble but was one of their best against the Wolves. Despite not standing out, Kuany and Collins were solid in both games and add size to the Giants after they lost both Garang and Malek. The big surprise was the head coach's son Cooper Creek who must be having a break from college. At 6-9" he showed a lot, including his Dad's shot blocking prowess.
You add Klasztorny, Ballantyne and Reid to the mix and the Giants are deep. Seven of those 8 players having European or college experience, and on top of that there was the injured Holloway on the bench and also ex-Wolves guard Hamish Cummings suiting up as well. Despite their OT losses, the Giants will surprise many, and once they sort out their rotations, and who will actually start, I can see them in the 5th to 8th zone.
WOLVES
Import Wade was very good and will challenge for NBL1 West leading scorer this year. On the flipside Formosa was underwhelming and Kiwi Vaiagina was disappointing, quite often being outplayed by fellow countryman Collins. I certainly didn't see anything with Vaiagina that suggests he will get another run with the Tall Blacks like he did a few months ago. Formosa didn't show me anything that said he should get minutes in front of some of the younger Wolves players. Majier Garang also suited up for the Wolves but wasn't much of a factor.
Despite winning in OT against a tired Giants line-up, to be honest the Wolves were disappointing. They were only missing 35yo Trian Iliadis and I didn't see a team who will finish top of the ladder like some are suggesting. Huntington was serviceable at best and Salinas hit a couple of late shots, but it was Wade, Reece Maxwell and Lachie Cummings who got them over the line. If the rumour is true and they get back Lee Roberts then it's a different story, but if that is their team for 2021 then I can see them around 3rd to 5th.
Not quite Insider. Wolves without Iliadis , Ben Ironmonger Mitchell Newton hamish warden and second import.
The Insider
Earlier this year
Thanks anonymous, I am aware of that. I mentioned the second import (Roberts), and the problem Ironmonger and Newton will encounter will be trying to get minutes in front of Wade, Formosa, Cummings, Wellsteed, Salinas and Iliadis. Good luck with that. Effectively they will become non-factors, hence why I didn't mention them.
Formosa wasn't exactly a hot commodity in victoria
Anonn
Earlier this year
Those non factors look like a pretty good 5 to me. Would probably make finals in their own right.
Even without Roberts - wolves have done what wolves do. The same doubts are on this board year after year.
Another issue is the unreliable new stats package that still hasn't had its issues resolved ove east and other WA clubs have still not received the cameras nor trialled the stats package yet.
Cooper Creek had one of the biggest put back dunks ive ever seen in the wolves game
hopefully they got this on film somewhere!
Anonymous
Earlier this year
All clubs have received cameras and had them tested two weeks ago. If live streaming fails, it's because of incompetent clubs, not the league
Cameras and Livestream I agree but it's the new stats package that is causing issues over in the bigvameras and the practice matches I've been at to date in Perth
Perthworld
Earlier this year
So every game will be live streamed (in theory)?
the head honcho from nbl1 was over here a week or so ago and visited all the clubs, they'll be ready to go
Anonymous
Earlier this year
$10 says east Perth still
Manage to mess it up in round 1
Kalamunda are jack city this year
shot 58 threes against Giants
at least over 40 in all other games
With most teams using import spots on bigs, and the lack of imports across the league.. expect three point shot #'s to increase a reasonable amount
Less quality bigs = more guard play = more three point attempts. Simple really
Anonn
Earlier this year
So what happens with all of the bigs that are in the league. Hawks are big. Wolves are big. Giants running a big. Rocko are big.
Only the second tier teams don't have the big men in their 5.
Just talking on average, across all teams... you just mentioned only 20% of the league.
Less quality bigs, less rim protection.
Please don't apply to coach anywhere
Rookies
Earlier this year
Whats with all the rookie Senator signings for the Women? Is the women' competition going to become a glorified d-league competition?
Lets shout out to all the rookies that will be debuting in the nbl1west competition... and go
koberulz
Earlier this year
One team is signing lots of rookies, so the whole competition is bad? What?
Is there a maximum size for SBL rosters?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
20 contracts just like SBL
Anyone doing some previews for round 1? Only 9 days away
Who is Venky Jois signing with? In quarantine in Perth and surely not a Wildcat
He's signed with Dandenong NBL1, not sure why he is in Perth? Seems a little odd.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Cougars v U20 women
Cougars by 9
1 week left any prac games left?
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Full strength Willo beat minus 3 starters Rocko by 2 in Rocko on Weds night.
Anonn
Earlier this year
Which starters missed for Rocko? Hire. Jervis. ?
Last night wolves women beat lakeside women by about 10
Lakeside men beat flames men by about 40
Anyone know how bad Issy Miotti's injury is?
Anon
Earlier this year
Venky Jois flew into Australia from Europe, hence why he is quarantining. It just happens that it was a flight into Perth. Once he finishes quarantine he's off to Melbourne.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Rocko women go down to Mandurah by 9
Don't care if it’s pres season that shouldn’t happen
Alarm bells
Anon
Earlier this year
Rocky played most of the juniors as Tyronne was watching ready for Round 1 - Rocky coach wasnt showing his cards - played just 1 play to throw the scent off... good tactic
Anonymous
Earlier this year
How embarrassing that Rockingham wasted their only practice game by doing nothing.
thanks Tyrone
still less embarrassing than you announcing Caleb White last year who hadn't actually signed a contract lol
Anon
Earlier this year
It's pretty simple now. Rocko must win this week - otherwise it just shows they are all talk
good to see Quentin Calder got the afternoon off work so he could rip into flames again. sad to see
just because you got fired at flames pal, it's all good, just let it go. the cougars men’s team only have Rocko coaches, at least flames can create their own coaches
#cougarsadoptedfamily
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Guy is quick to forget how much the club helped him and his family raising thousands of dollars for them after the tragic and sudden loss of his sona couple of years ago, yet this is how he repays them. Only cares about his ego and sunshine academy. He negativity and need to always be right will eventually see him banished from the Cougars too no doubt
Really, just really. You need to stoop that low? Come on anonymous, cut it out.
Anonymous
Earlier this year
Stoop that low? Simply pointing out how much trouble one person caused Over the past three years despite Rockingham greatly assisting him and his family at a time when they needed it most, yet now he's on here posting negative comments about the club on the regular. Or convincing up and coming young Cockburn coaches, well technically the kid grew up at Rockingham then learnt his coaching trade at Perth, but that makes him part of this adopted family they want to claim - Convincing said younger coaches from his own club to covertly film a scratch match then vehemently denying it despite several witnesses when approached by club officials.
Did your Men's head coach and state under 18 metro head coach condone this behaviour whilst he was away at nationals? Or was this just further evidence of QC and TT making their own rules as they go along then posting negative crap on here about the other club, when they get caught red handed? THAT is the definition of stooping low old mate.
[email protected]
Earlier this year
I have to say after reading this post it disappoints me to see how immature and petty alot of people from both clubs have gotten on here. People move clubs for various reasons - get over it. Show some maturity and deal with it like adults rather than teenagers who dont know any better. If you don't like someone from another club, then just avoid them or plain and simply ignore them. Don't get on here and spread BS just for an ego boost. I have friends at both clubs, a couple at the Cougars who I respect highly and talk to often. At the end of the day we need to remember why we get involved with basketball in the first place - to make kids, coaches, refs, scorebench officials and anyone else who wants to enjoy the best sport in the world, and make them as good as possible in a fun environment where you bust your ass to win each week but do it with class, sportsmanship and mateship.
To the absolute A$$ clown who went way too far bringing up Q's family stuff, having coached the kid and also working with Q and the family to organise a memorial game after the kid's passing, I find it highly offensive from a Rocko perspective for anyone to bring that up on a public forum and use it as slander against a guy who, admits his faults, but at the end of the day is just the same as me and you - loves the sport and wants to share that passion with as many as possible. So he didn't work out with the Flames, who cares. From what those I am close with up in Hammy Hill tell me he has been nothing but great for them and we should be happy that we have someone with his experiences, particularly from another country, who wants to be involved in our player and coach development. Q and I haven't always seen eye to eye but there is a mutual respect there and whoever that Anon was above, I hope you have the courage to at least make yourself known to me in the next week or so as to why you feel it necessary and ok to be so vindictive and personal about such a sensitive issue, particularly when alot of us still involved at the Flames had something to do with the kid during his time at the club. Ridiculously poor form to say the least!
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