I have heard a few names, Caporn being one. Unlikely I doubt they would go for an unproven coach at NBL level in their first ever season. If they do it's almost doomed to certain failure. Many people don't like Biwer for various reasons. Wright? No way. Marty Clarke is Tasmanian and his last foray into the NBL with Radford was a disaster. Stewart has been spoken too only recently afaik. They have already said they want to make and announcement for HC before Christmas. Well they better do something and quickly. Their presence in the media currently is non existent. They need to get out amongst the community now and create interest. Of course they don't have the staff for that.
Hopefully not Joey Wright, he breeds bad culture.
I'd say the Jack Jumpers will focus on getting their office staff recruitment sorted first.
In the interim they will search for a reputable coach who can blend in well with the local Tassie community, build a young team with a few marque players.
Once the coach is in place, they'll focus on player recruitment and no doubt look to have mostly the local Tassie guys as DP's.
I reckon Caporn. No real expectations, can build team from scratch. And we got Adam and the Ants.
And please no more Flynn, it's a wonder he didn't get an opportunity for the pelicans according to his press agent, himself. Made a career in Adelaide out of not doing much.
"Not sure they need to create interest in November 20 for a start date October 21." I can ausssre you no one is interested right now and the local fans that were keen are rapidly losing interest. They need to capture the kids right now and generate the enthusiasm and loyalty long before they start. How they will do that I don't know.
Has to be Anthony Stewart or a well known tassie local.
As mentioned, it is going to be a tough couple first years anyways even if you get an established, experienced NBL coach.
SEM went with Mitchell and although coming 7th, have set themselves up to build on the first year.
By getting a Tassie identity the club can build a culture and hopefully get some support from the locals etc.
Joey Wright breeding a bad culture is complete rubbish.... Has any person online saying this even been in the locker room or been in close proximity to Joey and team members?
Too many of you reach for the "player x is a bad team mate" "player z is a coach killer" "coach y is a bad leader", and it often comes from a source who doesnt know, or hasnt played with the person theyre spreading about.
Wright has his players backs to the drop and is one of the most loyal dudes you'll come across. Also a very grounded and respectful human.
The stuff that Kevin White leaked was blown out of proportion. Though it was fairly inappropriate and suicide is a touchy subject, the guy just speaks in those ways because hes from the old school. Ask any of his Sixers squad from that team (or damn near every current Bullets player lol) and they'll say the same.
The guy could have gone to some awareness training and that would have been sufficient... but here we are, turning him into public enemy #1
Stewie is well known down here, one of his strengths is networking and promoting along with recruiting - he does know how to identify and go after good talent.
Personally I am not convinced on his X and O knowledge / ability in a game to execute. If he has someone on the staff with a real strength in this area and actually defers goes to them almost like a mentor it could work. Those making the call need to have this knowledge ie what they need to set the team up both within the community and on the court.
There is no doubt Stewie is respected within Tas basketball but he would need help it is a damn big role.
100% correct in your analysis, get him an x and o man and he's the perfect candidate. I thought the young bloke he had in his last seabl winning season was excellent, working for basketball Tasmania now, name I cannot remember. Stewart subs very well, no problem there, he’s also well known in basketball outside Tasmania due to his highly successful nbl career.
Yes that's him, Nathan Brereton, excellent basketball brain. Him Plus Stewart would be great combo, chuck Nash in and it’s a great local group. I hope the new management don’t always think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, they should use the local talent if it’s there.
Now before I get shot down, obviously if a quality coach from outside is available by all means have a look at him but there isn’t to many available.
"Your local talent wasn't up to NBL1 South nor NZNBL. What makes you think the same local talent will be good enough at an even higher level of competition?"
So you think that being 1 game out of the finals in the NZBL and with the huge travel burden and difficulties they had with their horrible owners 5th in their first season was a failure? You can't be serious.
What are you on about #582? This thread is titled jack jumpers coach......keep going with the cheap shots.
It is acknowledged in the basketball community here that the NBL team is aspirational and the benefit to the sport here will be phenomenal.
If you go through each NBL team there are not a lot of 'locals' playing for them. There are Tasmanians playing in other teams, college etc that will be targeted but there will obviously be majority from elsewhere as with other teams.
There are a couple of juniors who I know of who have potential but not sure if I'd say NBL potential at this stage as the league is so strong
The work on the DEC started today including much needed four courts as well as others:
Peter Gutwein, Premier
Jane Howlett, Minister for Sport and Recreation
9 November 2020
Major milestone for the DEC redevelopment
The Tasmanian Government has completed the purchase of the DEC and adjoining land from the Glenorchy City Council, paving the way for this important development to progress to construction.
Premier Peter Gutwein said "I'm thrilled to be able to announce that we have reached the next major milestone in the DEC redevelopment."
“Local firm VOS Construction is on-site from today to commence preliminary works on-site at the DEC, which are expected to be completed by Christmas.”
“This is just another demonstration of our Government’s commitment to boosting and supporting the creation of even more local jobs,” Premier Gutwein said.
Importantly, agreements with the LK Group to facilitate the redevelopment of the DEC and the future operation and management of the facility have also been finalised.
LK Group Chairman Larry Kestelman said “with this upgrade, the DEC will be transformed into a world class entertainment and events venue. We are excited to announce that one of Australia’s premier artists Guy Sebastian has been booked to perform at the newly renovated DEC on November 22 next year."
“We look forward to welcoming concerts, conventions and other major sporting events, including the Tasmania JackJumpers, to the DEC and thank the Tasmanian Government and Glenorchy City Council for their support for this project which will boost jobs, tourism and economic activity for the state.”
Tasmania JackJumpers CEO Simon Brookhouse said “this is an exciting day for the NBL and major events here in Tasmania. With this renovation, the DEC will be transformed into a world class entertainment venue and we can’t wait to host the first game featuring the Tasmania JackJumpers next year.
“Over 2,200 foundation members have already signed up with the JackJumpers and we encourage all Tasmanians to sign up and join the march as we prepare to launch Tasmania’s new national sporting team.”
The purchase of the DEC and adjoining land also means the Government has secured the land required to deliver the four court community multisport facility which is expected to commence in mid 2021.
Minister for Sport and Recreation Jane Howlett said “Tenders for the design, planning and oversight of construction of the $20 million indoor multi-sport facility recently closed, with nine submissions received and currently being assessed.”
“The new facility will provide fit-for purpose, multi-use courts and sports facilities for a range of sports including futsal, netball, basketball, volleyball and gymnastics, and will meet the growing needs of the community and importantly encourage more Tasmanians to participate in sport,” Minister Howlett said.
Where are you from?
They beat the nbl 1 grand finals winners the previous year in the seabl grand final. They would have nbl 1 easy if they didn't enter nznbl, yes they got fifth but the travelling and schedule had a lot to do with and they actually tied fourth but got beat on a count back.
Yes unfortunately there are to many nay sayers that have no experience and any senior level of basketball giving the peanut galley comments. Stewart without doubt is one of the best credentail ed coaches not to be involved in the NBL.
PLans are already under way for an excellent side for next season's NBL1. Certainly finals bound already (on paper).
However to take the NBL side on now I think is foolish. Get an AC's job and wait and learn. If the new HC het's immediate success so be it.
If he's like Simon Mitchell and comes 2nd last he will be gone in a flash. I would suggest that Mitchell will be gone at the end of next season as well, inless they reverse their form dramatically.
Reckon Mitchell has done very well so far with SEM, along with having Tommy Greer as well they have done a great job coming in to the league. The area of basketball heartland in Melbourne has embraced them, but as anon 591 points out the league can be ruthless if they do not start moving up.
With the Tassie team I am intrigued watching it develop and hope they embrace the local basketball community as well.
As Stewie's strengths are not what are normally associated with being an assistant (ie recruiting and networking etc) I actually hope he is given the opportunity to develop the other stuff while at the same time contributing.
I have not heard other names being thrown around (am part of local tas basketball) but like Caporn's pedigree having been at St Marys and part of the Centre of Excellence he sounds good. (yes I know others have been there)
Keen to hear of any other whispers.
He has missed out on a few nbl jobs in the last few seasons, Cairns, Adelaide. I just don't think he’s a better option than Stewart, neither has nbl head coaching experience but Stewart has quality nbl playing experience and is a local. I just see Stewart as more head coach than assistant.
The latest here on the HC position. As Stewie's strengths are not what are normally associated with being an assistant (ie recruiting and networking etc)It's a waywall atricle and sheds no light on the situation. Just a puff piece.
Scout said "As Stewie's strengths are not what are normally associated with being an assistant (ie recruiting and networking etc)" This is totally incorrect. The budget that Stewart has had and the recruiting he has done is simply outstanding. There are several clubs in the SEABL that spent over $100K on players. Stewart was never one of them. As for networking, that's simply untrue as well. Clearly a follower with no real understanding Scout for what Stewart brings to the table. He shadowed Perth in the Blitz last season. Good relationship with Cairns and almost 500 games under his belt and a couple of NBL championships as well he is across the lot. Oh he is also currently the most successful SEABL coach in recent years. No I am not his mum nor related.
Anon #616......um think you are mis-quoting me or mis-interpreting me totally.
What I was trying to say is that Stewie's strengths are:
recruiting and networking etc.
Must be my left handed way of presenting stuff - you have mis represented it totally.
Totally agree that he has done some amazing work in this area - my point is that is not usually the job of the assistant, who usually does the scouting / player one on one's etc.
Yes he is great at networking I agree totally - you make my point.
The point I was trying to make that I do not believe his strengths are X and O's and would need help in those areas if was to be the head coach.
I have total faith in his recruiting and networking ability that was the point I was making.
Maybe recruit a US or other coach to assist him with the game day stuff - again YES he is great at recruiting and networking.
If he was to become Head Coach I would be happy IF he had back up for game day.
anon #624 game day observations , my opinion - happy for you to disagree. With strong teams he has had did not run a lot besides first options (with one scorer) or mix up on d etc.
Also do not think that is a hugely negative as assistance in this areas can be provided and add to the whole club.
...just curious are you the same anon who mis-represented me??
Anon #627 totally agree - it is hard with so many anonymous posters to know who I am responding to, my original point is he should be an assistant have time to learn more from a mentor and develop along with the team in a positive way.
The point I was trying to make is that his skill set at the moment is not what a H/C would look for in an assistant. H/C usually want someone who can do one on ones with players, run through reviews etc I am happy for others to disagree but I do not think they are his strengths, his strengths are more in the recruiting / networking etc.
'Stewart was out of his depth in NZNBL. The players commonly joked about his lack of X's and O's. Especially the Nbl experienced ones.'
This is common knowledge amongst players at professional and semi-professional level. Trainings are predominantly scrimmages.
"This is common knowledge amongst players at professional and semi-professional level. Trainings are predominantly scrimmages." Funny that in the NZBL they stuggled to have enough players to train with let alone scrimmage. Clearly you know nothing about Stewart and his training regime.
Last time I spoke to Shawn he was happy to look at all offers but at that stage no one had spoken to him. Like wise the JJ's have spoken to Stewart once and as for Gruggan he has done nothing of note to deserve an Asst C spot. Sorry. Neither has Brereton.
I'm not saying he should get the job but I don’t think he did to bad in the nznbl took a brand new team that had very unstable owners and won 50% of there games and just missed playoffs while having one of the worst travel schedules you would ever see for a basketball team . Also the nbl players that played under him must not think to badly of him as moller and frolling had signed to play under him again for the chargers prior to this nbl1season being canceled
"Scout, please stop arguing with Stewie's Mum."
Stick to trolling elsewhere when you have nothing to contribute here. Scout's a local and clearly knows whats going on to a certain extent. You how ever have nothing to contibute here. Just peanut gallery crap.
Gruggan has worked with Shawn Dennis at Townsville and the only way he would get anything in Tasmania is if Radford got the Head Coaches role and take Gruggan as an assistant because they worked together in Tasmania.
There are better ones who could be considered.
The three coaches in the last seabl premiership were a great combination, it could be better kicking the club off with three local coaches and a better squad of players with only two or three local players. See how it all gels for a season and if not working hunt a big name coach. One thing for sure is Stewart doesn't like losing and can make tough decisions.
"This is common knowledge amongst players at professional and semi-professional level. Trainings are predominantly scrimmages."
"Stewart was out of his depth in NZNBL. The players commonly joked about his lack of X's and O's. Especially the Nbl experienced ones."
Strange that those same players want to play under Stewart agin. You know jack shit.
So how many NBL players told you this? Were you ever at an NZBL training to witness this? If you were a coach how did you go? Perhaps coaching a ladies team? Let us know. Success galore? Stop the spreading of bullshit and trying to cut down Stewart. He has played more NBL than you have, won two NBL titles and as a SEABL coach won more titles as a player and coach that you ever have. Oh that's right you have neber played NBL. Stick to the minors and enjoy you very unsuccessful career. Jealousy is indeed a curse and you bring out your very worst. People know who you are and all you are doing is making your rep worse than it already is.
Yes tired on one local individual playing the man. He can have a bit back. As I said people know exactly who he is and he isn't helping himself one little by posting lies on here. His career speaks for itself. Jsut another snake in the grass that needs to be out in the open.
First game in the NZNBL Stewart also blew it not knowing the rules with progressing the ball after a timeout. Did so reducing the shot clock giving the opponent a chance to win it with a final shot. If they kept the ball in the backcourt they would of had last possession or been fouled.
Simply - Stewart is out of his depth with coaching.
Wow, an unnamed source on the internet. Bollocks, just name him or her. If it's down to one person what's the harm, if you're telling a lie, what's the worse that could happen. Shut down a state and you don't get charged for it here in SA, maybe a free garlic bread with your next order!
I rate Mitchell and people I know and respect rate him. It is not appropriate to judge after entering in the 2019 - 2020 season.
Also rate the SE Melbourne Phoenix and how they have come in as a new franchise they are a good model to base on. Their back office and community engagement has been very impressive. The on court results will happen for them.
I am sure Tom Greer and others will not be basing their judgement on Mitchell's future on the bitter uninformed posts on a blog like this.
If Brookhouse is as good a operator as Greer the Jackjumpers will do well.
Yeah Kelly's first season was so good. (6wins) plus he would have been cheap. Vickerman started out in 1997? and another 5 years before he was a head coach. Difference is Kobe that both were good players that understand the game which has translated into good coaching. Simon's NBL debut is underwhelming to say the least.
9 wins first season.
It is to early to judge Mitchell, anon's doing so are making cheap shots. If you provided analysis on his x and o ability, player relationships, recruitment etc might have some substance but sounds like someone just making a cheap shot.
My understanding is he was also a national junior player and went to college in the States before being mentored by Brett Brown in the coaching ranks....good pedigree.
I can assure you Scout those discussions have already taken place. Do I coach no. All that I am trying to say is that an experienced HC should be hired. Forde included however that's unlikely now. The Tassie public want winners not another side Like the Devils that were never in finals. The marketing is harder and the talent pool available is also limited. You may accept mediocrity but I and the public won't otherwise in another 5 season they will be gone and never to return.
#996 interested in your definition of mediocrity.
I would not say Mitchell is mediocre.
I do not know who will be the Jackjumpers coach - are you saying that it needs to be a head coach and not someone who has only been a A/ coach? Is that your definition of mediocrity.
Don't throw out generalizations of course I want sustained success here in Tasmania, you don't need to resort to cheap shots such as:
"You may accept mediocrity but I and the public won't otherwise in another 5 season they will be gone and never to return."
I was about at the time of the Devils, there were lots of reasons they didn't survive - are you blaming the coaches they had?
I wouldn't I would blame the administrators.
I know the Devils story inside and out Scout. Believe me on that. Not many know it better than me.
Is 9/19 really that good? 2nd bottom? No.
The NBL here is on a roll and I know it's the right time to be returning back. The new DEC will be an outstanding venue and the NBL in Tas needs to capture that moment for years to come. What have they done in the 2 months or so since they got in? Nothing. They will need to have talks with the Chargers to get a foothold into the schools. I know those discussions are underway now. Almost Christmas and nothing. No new staff hiring other than the nepotism already done.
Xmas and no one will be working and much the same in January. We need that HC who people already nkow hopefully. With possibly only a few Tasmanians in the NBL they will need to hit the ground running and recruit and win. I know a few kids abput that maybe benchied for the JJ's and are young enough to mature into good players.
2nd botton isn't good enough IMO. It's not a cheap shot it's reality. If they aren't in the finals and maybe even runner up in those first 5 seasons they will be gone like before.
Good reply Scout.
Most all new clubs struggle when they start up or come back into the league. Sydney were a basket case till they spent sqillions, Brisbane still been rubbish since their return.
Jumpers have not got the profile to suddenly get the big name coaches and there isn't many available. They will be fine even if it ends up with Stewart who is really sold short around here.
with a new franchise coming in you would hope / expect to play finalsFrom memory the only expansion team to play finals in their first year is the Dragons, back in the "8 of 11 teams make the playoffs" era.
So no, you would absolutely not expect that.
#004 anon - Your calls towards Mitchell are judgmental, if you were making the call at the end of the next season all good. SE Melb have a strong team and they have done some great work in the community that is basketball heartland. As I said I rate him - if they have the same amount of wins at the end of the next season yep get stuck in.
Also do not think you know what is actually happening with the Jackjumpers, we can not expect an announcement every day of the week.
If you were around at the time of the Devils you should realise context is important. Sure we know each other!
Yep this is a moment in time that needs to be grabbed with the refurbishment of the DEC totally agree.
It is not only the Chargers and schools they need to connect with it is both the North and North West. Basketball in the south needs courts (as do other regions) and if there is scope for some of the CAM's accessing and leveraging off the new courts at the DEC it will be a good start.
I can tell you there is currently more demand than the local CAM's can cope with ie not enough coaches / courts etc. Both BTAS and the new club can and should help with this.
I have noticed Brookhouse at both school and club championships. As I have previously said it is damn important that he has some basketball people around him re the coaching appointment and I would hope that is the case. The proof will be in the appointment and the players that come on etc.
This will be evident soon.
Wonder what the story was with the import Mitchell refused to play, forget his name. And surely Armstrong couldn't have been that bad they couldn't find some minutes when they imploded after a good start.
Guess his honeymoon is over now though, didn't pay all that cash for Creek to be an also ran.
"As I have previously said it is damn important that he has some basketball people around him re the coaching appointment and I would hope that is the case."
THat's where we disagree Scout the NBL will appoint the HC not Brookhouse and crew. Exactly what they did with Mitchell.
As to the West other than Forde I don't know. If there is only one candidate left it will be obvious soon.
There really are some morons on here. "The league will appoint the HC like they did with Mitchell". Does this appear in your pea brain like a wizard of Oz behind the curtain type situation, where 'the league' is the ‘all powerful Oz’? Beyond stupid. And, honestly, do you really believe that Terry Armstrong was good enough to contribute but they chose not to play him, because they didn’t want to win? You really are beyond stupid. Don’t bother with this idiot anymore Scout, lives in an alternate universe.
I am impressed with one person writing crap and then agreeing with himself.
There is deluded. So who on the JJ's staff has any idea about selecting a HC? NO ONE. Get it moron? Oh by the way the League is that powerful cos they own the frikking licence. Keep smokin dude. I can see why you are single.
#51 and #53 anon so you disagree that basketball people should be involved in the decision.
Do you know who is involved in the decision who will be Head Coach for the Jack Jumpers?
I expect there is a sub committee / reference group that is involved but I like you do no know who is no this. I am sure it is more than just Larry.
Simon brookhouse isn't silly mate I know him personally he has been around basketball his whole life he is isn’t just some pencil pusher administer he knows the game as good as anybody that’s why Larry would have employed him he will be the one making the basketball decisions. I also don’t see the huge rush in making the appointment take there time and get it right as long as they are in place in time to prepare for next season it will be all good
I know him to however with limited time that is avaialable I do think they are dragging their heels publicly.
He appears uncontactable to all. I know of someone that had issues with their Foundation membership and getting what they paid for. He tried everything to get the matter sorted with the JJ's and got no response. With 2000+ foundation members already that's poor form. I guess once they get an office and staff things will improve. As for the coach he has limited to to slect his staff and players.
The good players here are already under long contracts which will make life tough. Get out on the floor and out in public. Get the Chargers involved and with Christmas / New Year looming they better his the ground runnng next year.
Henare side is dead last in b-2 division. Vague is in the team. I don't think Henare would except anything less than a three year contract as he has a young family and likes to keep them settled.
So if the rumour mill is correct we should know as soon as kings job announced. I’d say out of, Handy, Caporne, Forde, Henare and the outside runner in Stewart. In saying all that probably none a chance now. Lol.
"So if the rumour mill is correct we should know as soon as kings job announced. I'd say out of, Handy, Caporne, Forde, Henare and the outside runner in Stewart. In saying all that probably none a chance now. Lol."
Handy not in the hunt. Caporne never. Forde is now Kings interim coach. Henare under contract. Stewart never in the hunt.
So what now? Sterling? seriously?
Well you are posting the inside info. No one else knows. I suggest you ask about Biewr if this rumour is true. Equally why even contemplate the combo when Stewart is in your back yard. Oh by the way if you think I dont know what's going on think again. Maybe if more money was on offer we wouldn't be in this stupid predicament.
? not posting any inside info An anon posted Andy Campbell for H/C and Biwer for Assistant - I was querying who they are.
From a anon - "Andy Simons from SA is negotiating a package now. Biwer from Nunawading to be his AC." I did not post that just asked questions on them
Also not querying your knowledge of what is happening, have posted previously think Stewie would be a good choice with support.
"If Stewie get's the gig he will attract no one and be fired before the end of season 1"
Is this the same detractor as previously? Is is the Phoenix returning?
Seeing you know so much about coaching who is your recommendation? I asked previously and got no answer. (how unsurprising)
Stewart might not have nbl experience but with the right support coaches will be excellent. Radford is questionable though. Not enough love for Nash either. Both have extensive nbl playing careers.
Yes they are now going to keep looking but sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.
Stewie lost his car keys in Cairns after a game. He couldn't find them and didn’t know where he left them. And when he found them....oh that’s right I put them in my shoe which is on my foot!! On his actual foot. Dude ain’t going to be an NBL head coach ever.
eased to hear Brookhouse on ABC radio this morning. He cleared up a few things that have been posted here as fact.
NO Asst Coaches have been hired. He will leave that up to the new Head Coach. Equally no players have been approached as thats a Head Coach thing.
He has already received about 20 applications and expects to get maybe 40? There may be a decision before Christmas still and a panel will be appointed as part of this process. There is a chance that a Christmas appointment may not occur and equally Brookhouse said they will take as much time as needed to make the correct selection. Spoke very well and he was off to Launcestion for the State Championship finals and his first BTAS boardmeeting.
So summing up, no asst coaches have been appointed nor HC. The slection process is underway so no HC appointments either.
So all the "Appointments made" previosuly posted are simply lies.
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