Anonymous
Last month

Cambage having another shot

Whats more special treatment

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/i-swore-i-wouldn-t-be-back-cambage-s-surprise-return-a-chance-to-talk-olympics-race-and-fertility-20201110-p56d5a.html

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Anon  
Last month

Always the victim, never will she take accountability for her own actions, it's everyone else who is at fault but her.
She is not good for women’s sport

"It's very frustrating me playing here. I'm continuously told by referees how hard it is to ref me. I don't like having to shrink my game, make my game smaller because other people can't handle it. But I have to push through it this season."

She carry’s on when she can’t get her own way, plays dirty and when pinged for it blames the refs.

Southside are welcome to her, if she shrunk her ego and attitude, she would play a far better game lol

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Anonymous  
Last month

Any ref who tells her that should not be in the league nor any league for that matter

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Anonymous  
Last month

We have had men from the NBA be told they should be able to play being fouled in the NBL - no surprises here

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not in recent memory

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Anonymous  
Last month

The thing is she whinges about the reffing in the WNBA as well. She whinges about it in international competition as well. So I hope the WNBL refs don't take it personally. It's not them. It's her.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Big basketball people have always suffered from a referees inability to cope with that situation. Nothing new here.

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Jacqui Lambie  
Last month

Male version of Bogut. But with 50% less talent and 50% more entitlement.

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Perthworld  
Last month

and even less intelligence.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Less intelligence than Bogut is a stretch...

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Luuuc  
Last month

More dominant on the court than Bogut could ever dream of being, but yeah she does enjoy a sook.
I'm very happy to have her drama back in the league though. It needs more attention and she brings it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bogut played against people of his own size. LC not so much.Easy to dominate against dwarfs.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Well said Luuuc

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2BALLZ  
Last month

Das a yuge b**ch!!

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Andy  
Last month

I dont get this, she whinges in the WNBA constantly.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Anonymous ppl on forum crying and questioning players smartness and entitlement.
Classic

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Anon  
Last month

More dominant on the court than Bogut could ever dream of being, but yeah she does enjoy a sook.
I'm very happy to have her drama back in the league though. It needs more attention and she brings it.


But she brings negative attention, no sporting league needs that , wonder how many times she will get sent off this year and heckle the crowd as she exits

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Anonymous  
Last month

Do you really think that people anywhere care about the WNBL?

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ME  
Last month

Foul calls are racist though so..

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hoops is a greater cesspool than twitter
And thats HARD to do!
Well done Isaac, you have built quite a forum!

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Anonymous  
Last month

You're literally contributing to the state of the site, 800..

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Luuuc  
Last month

But she brings negative attention, no sporting league needs that , wonder how many times she will get sent off this year and heckle the crowd as she exits

She's a very effective villain, and pretty much every sporting league needs more of those.
If people tune in to boo her / barrack against her the same way they log on to Hoops to trash her then the WNBL won't mind that type of negative attention one bit.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Elmvet and Perthworld also contribute to state of the forum.

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Anon  
Last month

Don't think anyone tunes in on here specifically to trash her, they are already here to talk hoops, but people do turn off as they did last time she was in the wnbl, from watching, Boomers fans did not appreciate it one bit, no one wants to see behaviour like that in a family sport

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who will she punch in the gut now that Suzy has retired ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Policitics! ha ha nearly fell off my chair! She'd need to get a free leg up to the safest possible Greens seat in the country or she'd be not chance.

She is actually probably further left than the greens and wouldn't want the free leg up as that would be using her "privilege" to be ahead of everyone else.

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Billy Bob  
Last month

My favourite part of Liz threads are when she clearly gets on and claps back.

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Anonymous  
Last month

amazing the amount of people on forums that support the NBA, which is full of the players the flop, and moan about fouls, and not getting calls etc etc. LJB being one of the biggest in games at doing it. not to mention players going over like they are shot, only for the game to be stop for them, then they get up and play on like nothing has happened.
but when a female does it its bad, and she is bad for the sport???

i guess we can't comment as we aren't experiencing it in her shoes.

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Cram  
Last month

I'm happy to see her back in the league.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Be happy to see the back of her and her self entitled behavior.

Please head back to China or the USA!

Lets be frank Liz could be the best player in the world but she's a terrible leader and make no one else better.



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sixtiesrockstar  
Last month

Liz will want to hope she wins, as with a stacked team, not sure where the blame will be if they lose.
She swore she would never be back in WNBL. A lady of principle when it comes to taking money. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"amazing the amount of people on forums that support the NBA, which is full of the players the flop, and moan about fouls, and not getting calls etc etc. LJB being one of the biggest in games at doing it. not to mention players going over like they are shot, only for the game to be stop for them, then they get up and play on like nothing has happened.
but when a female does it its bad, and she is bad for the sport???"

I'm not sure if you follow basketball or this forum specifically, but flopping is routinely criticized - and LeBron specifically for it.

So yes: when a female does it, it's bad, and she is bad for the sport.

For many more reasons previously mentioned in this thread: Liz's constant complaining, tantrums, ill-formed opinions and cries out for attention are bad, and bad for the sport.

Hopefully this clears up the issue for you.

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Tjamu  
Last month

Liz is no worse than NBA guys that do it.

NBA is full of Diva's too

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBA guys are also heavily criticized, and rightly so when they say/do dumb shit.

How is this so difficult to grasp?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Have been told by a number of NBL refs that she is the biggest c*** on the court.

No surprise really eh.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Hoops is a greater cesspool than twitter"
Well maybe if the media stopped publishing crap fluff pieces and then only published comments that where all hugs and kisses for the so called "news article", then we would not need to vent here. Put up articles on the real players of the league - Mitchell, Ohea, George, Madgen, Cole, Kunek, Talbot.

So much more talent than this sook that already gets so much unworthy special treatment

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Curtley  
Last month

Her BLM and other stances means people have their own ingrained biases against her before she mentions anything else.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The criticism many have of Cambage is based on her history of moronic and unprofessional behaviour. This predates her vocal support of BLM.

To be fair though: I'm sure your point is accurate, since poltical expression is quite divisive nowadays. Nonetheless, it's also not really the root of the issue people have with Cambage.

If she were a better role model, or at the very least not carry on in public view like she does so often, then we would have more comments regarding the impact she'll have on-court, and for the popularity of the WNBL. Wouldn't that be nice?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Have heard that She was the only one whining to the refs in the hub scrimmages and it was on every call and it was non-stop huffing and puffing, all the other girls took it as an internal scratch match

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anon  
Last month

It all comes down to how she will be remembered in the game, where does she sit, alongside lauren jackson etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Liz hasn't got a drop on the LJ in terms of professionalism. Never will.

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Hoopie  
Last month

Lauren will always be a 'great', whereas Liz looks like always being a ‘grate’

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ANON  
Last month


"She's a very effective villain, and pretty much every sporting league needs more of those.
If people tune in to boo her / barrack against her the same way they log on to Hoops to trash her then the WNBL won't mind that type of negative attention one bit."


No she's simply someone who uses excuses to blame everyone else for her own short comings on and off the court

People don’t “tune in” to watch her bratty antics, they want to watch a game of professional basketball players .

Her behaviour off the court is just as bad , you wouldn’t even say her name in the same sentence as LJ..... Magbedor is about to replace her mantle though, that girl can not only play but she plays with heart not excuses, she’s what the media should be focusing on not some playboy expo or tantrum recant of why she’s back in the WNBL

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Anonymous  
Last month

Won't anyone please think of Liz and her mortgage payments?!?!

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Perthworld  
Last month

and her turntables!

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'm less likely to watch a game if Liz is playing.

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Scout  
Last month

Lot's of triggered sensitive, snowflake blokes on here having a crack at an assertive female

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Anonymous  
Last month

spot on scout. the stench of insecurity is strong in here.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Now that's one warped angle to be coming from.

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Anonymous  
Last month

she doesnt identify as female you bigoted nazi

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Scout  
Last month

triggered blokes continue to display that they are sensitive and touchy snowflakes

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Anonymous  
Last month

You da real MVP Scout, love it!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Scout, you're the one who is coming across as being triggered. The majority of us just agree based on Liz's actions that she's a very talented basketballer, but at best an average human being.

Think we're wrong? Fair enough. Give us your rebuttal that isn't solely a combination of basic, context-less idioms and buzz words.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Feel for Jenna as she will have to spend another season both working on her own game while also trying to keep Liz in check and in the game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think Scouts point is that plenty of our talented male athletes may or may not be good humans, doesn't seem to be mentioned as much. Liz is a star player and it’s great to have her back in the league

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Anonymous  
Last month

Liz is only a star because of her physical attributes. With her skill set if she was only 6 foot she wouldn't get a game anywhere.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Liz has both skill and size, it's what makes her a top 3 centre in the world.
The only 2 players comparable are griner 6’ 9 and fowles 6’6 on the international stage.

Looking forward most new centres prospects across the world are 6’4 mobile which is what it’ll be for australia also, Magbegor, smith, Aokuso etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"I think Scouts point is that plenty of our talented male athletes may or may not be good humans, doesn't seem to be mentioned as much."

Yes, and this is just wildly incorrect. This is why Cambage draws so many comparisons to Bogut: they both have a platform to speak their minds, and often use it to their detriment. Bogut is routinely called out for saying something stupid or controversial - go check hoops if you don't believe me.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I have no issue with her being an assertive woman, but she doesn't realise that her "campaigning for social issues" comes across as whinging. Compare her actions to someone like Patty Mills who does significant, meaningful charity work. Yes NBA salaries are larger, but she still has privilege and and a platform and she only appears to use them in a self-serving capacity.

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Scout  
Last month

"campaigning for social issues" comes across as whinging.

Back in her box, she should behave and not speak out. Act the right way and not offend all.

Shhhh Liz - behave and be a good hooper and act the right way.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I don't mind her trying to make social change. It's the way she carries herself in the media and on and around the court that I dislike. Here is a tip, not everyone has to like everyone. For me she is like Trump, you see their face and you just want to punch it.

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Scout  
Last month

fair call anon 965

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Anonymous  
Last month

If someone has no clue what they're talking about, they should sftu. This goes for athletes or non-athletes, men or women.

It's incredible that people fail to grasp this.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You do not have to have a clue. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You do not have to agree with it or like it but they are entitled to it.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Bogut & Cambage are kinda comparable in terms of being high profile basketballers who readily voice their opinions on social media.
Comparing their actual opinions though is a very different kettle of fish.
Bogut seems to want to position himself as the next Sam Newman, with an agenda of blind political incorrectness and plain ignorant shit like perpetuating Pizzagate. I don't mind what he's trying to do, but he's far too stupid to actually pull it off. Even moreso than Sam.
Cambage's main stances seem to be elevating people of colour, promoting veganism, and de-stigmatising mental health issues. All worthy causes IMO. (Though it's clear that there are still more than enough racists around for the first one to ruffle some feathers whenever the topic comes up)

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Luuuc  
Last month

... but yes, everyone is indeed allowed to have an opinion.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"You do not have to have a clue. Everyone is entitled to an opinion."

Wow. That's a hot take!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Luuuc you forgot maked playboy shoots to
"Empower" young girls.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No doubt an only fans next.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Naked*

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Luuuc  
Last month

Luuuc you forgot maked playboy shoots to
"Empower" young girls.


She said that she did that for herself, not for anything to do with empowering anyone. Regardless, do you have a problem with it?

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The Ibek-Way  
Last month

Maybe the problem here is that everytime hoops discusses Cambage, it strays away from her on court performance (both her dominance playing and her abusive behaviour towards game officials) and always seems to wind up talking about her personal opinions and off court persona...

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Anonymous  
Last month

"She said that she did that for herself," Never a truer statement made!!

Everything she does is for herself. You can't be a public figure when it suits you watch the "Call my Name" were she claims almost everything it’s because of her. Then claim “I just want to be me, I am not a role model for anyone”
For anyone that watched the game last night would have seen her complaining and abusing the ref’s from the first call

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ANON  
Last month


Everything she does is for herself. You can't be a public figure when it suits you watch the "Call my Name" were she claims almost everything it's because of her. Then claim "I just want to be me, I am not a role model for anyone"
For anyone that watched the game last night would have seen her complaining and abusing the ref’s from the first call


Yup literally each call she got against her ( or didn’t get but thought she should have in her favour) the body language spoke volumes and the facial expression, she’s a ticking time bomb , it’s not if she’s ejected but when in this short season lol

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Anonymous  
Last month

Here you go Luuuc
Easy google (note: its even in the headline)
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/7news.com.au/the-morning-show/basketball-star-elizabeth-cambage-is-stripping-down-in-playboy-for-an-empowering-reason--c-1359221.amp

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Anonymous  
Last month

Might give that issue a miss.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hahaha nice one, Luuuc

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Luuuc  
Last month

Here you go Luuuc


So as I asked before, what's the problem with it?

Quite a few people here seem to take offence at everything she does (which involves them paying constant attention to her - something they apparently can't seem to help themselves from doing), and then disappear back down a hole when asked to explain what's so bad about it. Be it DJ'ing, stripping down, adding her voice to various causes, etc. it's all completely harmless, yet it triggers the hell out of some people for some reason. I don't get it.

I get being frustrated at her sooky on-court stuff (in the WNBL it's mostly funny to me since I'm not a Flyers fan, internationally it annoys me when she techs herself into trouble), but I don't get the preciousness about her personal life.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I might be in the minority in this woke era, but someone doing soft porn does not empower my daughter.
Nor should it.
Ever.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Personally, I just dislike that she's a massive sook. That and she makes comments like "I swore I wouldn't be back, I swore I wouldn't play in the WNBL again", because that really helps Australian women's basketball.

It's a good thing that she's not trying to be a role model.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I have never seen this many snowflakes in November before!!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Good one.

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Anonymous  
Last month

An anon forum is quite literally snowflakes.

Hiding behind fake names to belittle athletes.

Id love to meet some of the gems on this forum!
Pillars of society!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh no. If I search on the internet I can find nipples. Human nipples. Female human nipples. The horror!!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

You're literally contributing to the forum anonymously...

One of us! One of us!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Difference im not a luuuuuc or numerous others that anon have a crack @ athletes from their living room

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh no. If I search on the internet I can find nipples. Human nipples. Female human nipples. The horror!!!

And werent they a mighty big set of pikelets!!!!
Yugeeee

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anon  
Last month

I might be in the minority in this woke era, but someone doing soft porn does not empower my daughter.
Nor should it.
Ever.


Id like to think your in the majority, it was tacky and tasteless IMO, but its just another grab at attention, and in a way she's got what she wanted, after all here we are discussing it, but sadly attention can come in good and bad forms, hers always seems to be the later both on and off court. If she stopped playing the victim, just got on with her game , then when she spoke about causes she believed in people might actually take her seriously , their is a right and a wrong way about getting your message across, something both her family and managers should be guiding her in, but at this age her habits are too ingrained, sad really as she could have had so much more of a positive influence on not just the game but also anything else she felt strongly about. Now people just roll their eyes or tune out and go, oh she's off again. Watching the game the other night I actually found myself wanting to turn the TV off, purely because she was playing, but then I thought of the likes of Jenna Ohea, and Leilani Mitchel, two brilliant players both on and off the court, they will continue to get my support, Cambage though for me is not a value add to this league.

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Anonymous  
Last month

yeah STFU and just play basketball Liz

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Anonymous  
Last month

Luuuuc is def a male feminist.
Hope it gets you laid Luuuucy boy

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koberulz  
Last month

Imagine thinking that's an insult.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kober is right.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Feminist of any kind is generally an insult these days. In fact most women don't want to be considered a feminist given how extreme the movement has become.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Keep drinking soy lattes boys!

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Billy Bob  
Last month

Thanks Liz. For those of us with lactose intolerance we really appreciate you being so woke

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Anonymous  
Last month

#279 not sure that 'most women' elected you as their spokesperson. Feminism is the belief that all humans are equal, not sure why anyone would have an issue with that?

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Cool Howie  
Last month

Anonymous sexist fools out in force again.

Strong women scare you that much eh.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No, just women was massive nipples!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Id love to meet some of the gems on this forum!
Pillars of society!

Would love to meet you as well - I am guessing I am more active in both women's and girls sport than yourself, however because I disagree with your "view of the world" and dare to call out a spook I would be sounded down. So instead I keep quite

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is the guy doing comments on foxsport for the WNBL, is he being payed to pump up Liz? Every time she catches the ball his comment last night "Thats why she is the best player in the world". Has be not heard of
1. Breena Stewart
2. Diana Taurasi (might be getting old)
3. Maya Moore
4. Parker
5. Griner
6. Charles
7. Delle Donne
8. Sue Bird - Legend
9. Ogwimike (spelling sorry)

Just saying

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Anonymous  
Last month

Really Sorry - "call out a spook" was meant to be "Call out a sook" - very sorry cant edit it

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Anonymous  
Last month

Stewart atm is best player, but Liz is certainly top 5.

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Scout  
Last month

Good posting Luuuc

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Luuuc  
Last month

Who is the guy doing comments on foxsport for the WNBL, is he being payed to pump up Liz? Every time she catches the ball his comment last night "Thats why she is the best player in the world". Has be not heard of
1. Breena Stewart
2. Diana Taurasi (might be getting old)
3. Maya Moore
4. Parker
5. Griner
6. Charles
7. Delle Donne
8. Sue Bird - Legend
9. Ogwimike (spelling sorry)

Just saying

Yeah, that started grating on me pretty quickly too when it kept being repeated. "Arguably the best in the world"
It's an argument that would be over very quickly.
You can argue top 5, but not top.
(I don't agree that Moore, Taurasi, Charles or Ogwumike are as good as her right now, but IMO Wilson, Stewart & Delle Donne are all better, and I'd add Thomas & Vandersloot to the list who are around the mark)

Other than that detail though (which is likely just a talking point that has been handed to him to mention), I rate Corbin Middlemas. He's one of those solid commentators who can call what's in front of him even if he might not know all the details & history. Contrast that with Cam Luke who is very much a basketball guy yet completely butchers all the players' names. That reeks of disrespect to me and is not a great look for the league.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Shutup Luuuuc

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koberulz  
Last month

Other than that detail though (which is likely just a talking point that has been handed to him to mention), I rate Corbin Middlemas. He's one of those solid commentators who can call what's in front of him even if he might not know all the details & history. Contrast that with Cam Luke who is very much a basketball guy yet completely butchers all the players' names.
If I hear "Ezbry" one more time...

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Anonymous  
Last month

Did Cam Luke phone him at quarter time? He was saying it right at the start and then changed to Ezbry.

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koberulz  
Last month

I think it's been wandering between Ezbry and Ebzbry all afternoon.

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Anonymous  
Last month

He got it right a few times early. Might have been accidental.

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Anonymous  
Last month

BBC

In recent years, feminist movements have attracted significant attention in Europe and North America. So why do so many young women still say they do not identify with the term?

Fewer than one in five young women would call themselves a feminist, polling in the UK and US suggests.

That might come as a surprise as feminism - the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes - has been in the spotlight lately.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Um, we live in Australia

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Anonymous  
Last month

^Captain of the debate team right there.

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Anon  
Last month

Corbin is generally excellent. Would quite happily listen to him do all the games but WTF, I'm seconding the "Ezbery" thing. Almost had to turn it off, it drove me that mad. I also noticed he had it right early in the game, so who knows what happened. Hope it doesn't continue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

She's a pain in the a**. Can't stand watching her antics and constant whinging. She could be such a great role model, instead she's a spoilt brat. She's had a lot of work done to her face I've noticed as well (as a side note).

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Anonymous  
Last month

She really did carry on like an idiot today

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Anonymous  
Last month

judging by the boxscore she dominated

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Anonymous  
Last month

A dominating idiot

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X  
Last month

Luuuc is easily one of the best posters. Post on son.

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