Anonymous
Earlier this year

R2: Sixers v New Zealand 22/1/21

NZ make their season debut in Adelaide.

Will Giddey play?

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Can Iverson stay out of foul trouble?
Is LP fit?

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Rob Loe is questionable with a knee injury he has been trying to shake.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Did the extra couple of weeks allow Webster to get fit or is he still out?

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Corey Webster had a second opinion on the nerve damage to his hand and he'll be out for potentially a couple more weeks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Thanks Mystro. I still think NZ deserve to be favourites in this one.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ofcourse the breakers are favourites!? Adelaide have some work to do and probably some roster changes to make before they compete.

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millhouse13  
Earlier this year

When was the last time NZ played a game? 2-3 weeks ago?

no way they are match fit and players will be rusty - 36's should win easily

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

Enter the Dragon.

The Breakers start their campaign after Jacinda has stamped their leave passes, gave them a nice warm bowl of chicken noodle soup and a nice big hug. "We're going on a great adventure!" said Abba as they packed their kit bags and sailed across the ditch to the wild land of West Island where drop bears attack unsuspecting tourists.

Friday night action sees the Breakers lob into town to start their season and they look more buff than Manpower New Zealand. Old mates Abercrombie, Webster, Delany, Loe and Weeks are back on deck. Human brick shthouse Lamar Patterson joins them from Brisbun, and Trist is trying out his third team in three years. That's an impressive line up and we haven't started on their imports.

Adelaide should get star teenager Giddey back and while they are not completely woeful, they really need to get their head in the game as this run of home games should seem them exert their influence over their opponents. There's something not quite gelling with the team. A Stirling effort from DJ so far and he is leading the scoring table.

A brave man would have tipped Trump to beat Biden, and a braver man would tip the Sixers to beat The Breakers. Too much firepower tonight.

Breakers by .....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great work jack.

I think Sixers can win this if Johnson and Humphries keep going great. NZ will be rusty.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The OP doesn't understand that Jack Toft writes the previews .
NZ by heaps.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Rob Loe has been cleared by the Breakers Medical Team and is slated to start tonight.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Key factors that will decide this game:

- How much did Lamar eat in the off-season?
- Can Iverson stay out of foul trouble and trouble DJ on the defensive end?
- Will Donald Sloan play defence or will Tai Webster have a field day?

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

I think Lamar Patterson will have a field day we don't have anyone who could reliably guard him.

Breakers by 12

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Big Ads  
Earlier this year

I thought you might have used a fellowship of the rings reference JT but perhaps that would have been too obvious.

I call a Sixers win tonight but only if Crocker can lock down Lamar and Donald Sloan can stay on his feet for 3 consecutive plays.

I also wonder if Jack McVeigh now understands that Coach Henry won't stand for any of his clownish behaviour and lazy habits.

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Krazy  
Earlier this year

The Breakers have packed the flying Tarago and crossed the dutch.

Our only hope is them being rusty TBH.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where is this game being shown? It's not on SBS on Demand as advertised.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Trist out, got do 14 days quarantine after being given permission to have a family member visit him. None of it makes sense unless the visitor is from overseas.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

The visitor is from Victoria, which makes him ineligible to enter WA.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Working for me on SBS on Demand.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Tony Crocker highlight show tonight

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

So far we're probably looking the best we've looked so far this season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Breakers will be rusty and without Corey Webster. Adelaide should win this.

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Red74  
Earlier this year

Giddey needs to work on his defence. Looks uninterested at times. Not agressive defensively either.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Iverson won't last long.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The visitor might be not allowed in WA but there in Adelaide.

NZ playing crap but some home cooking going on.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sixers to fade in the second half? Their fourth game in a week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't get too cocky, Sixers fans. It’s still early days: the Breakers are rusty and the Sixers have had a very favourable foul count. Given the misery you have to put up with, regrettably this game will turnaround.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Breakers getting no love from the refs, as per usual... this season is going to be very tough with no home games.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

The visitor might be not allowed in WA but there in Adelaide.
They play in Perth next week.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Bach looking ok for Nz, doesn't look lost or out of place

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KET  
Earlier this year

Wait for the over correct, NZ all the fouls this half, 36ers next half

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Fouls will cost the Breakers this game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Working for me on SBS on Demand." Thanks it wasn;t there when I posted.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is NZ going to get our own commentators like this for all Breakers games? I really hope so...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Lotta contact on that last Patterson play. Sixers will regret not maintaining a bigger lead.

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cavolo  
Earlier this year

Does Delaney, and Loe to a lesser extent know how to play any legal defence that doesn't involve bear hugs, blatant holds and hooks and anything that doesn’t resemble molestation? Maybe I’m getting old and just too biased....?

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Alexis  
Earlier this year

17 FT for Sixers, 7 for Breakers ? Cmon refs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Wait for the over correct, NZ all the fouls this half, 36ers next half"

Lol, are you new to watching breakers games? The NBL refs legit hate us.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Koberulz ok, but why couldn't he play this game, I just don’t get it.

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Peter Ward  
Earlier this year

Welcome to Adelaide - the home cooking capital of Australia

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#FreeRiceJnr  
Earlier this year

Imagine how good DJ could be if he went hard at the ball rather than focus on getting fouls. He dropped on the defence end instead of going at the ball.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

977 he is now deemed a close contact according to WA's rules. If he played, all Breakers and 36ers would also become close contacts and not be able to enter WA for two weeks. Then every team they play in that 14 days would become close contacts etc.
Need to just not schedule games in WA until further notice. They are the only state really messing with the schedule

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Or you could just not breach COVID protocols.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tai Webster on track for 40.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The decals seem even worse than usual... so many slips.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes but he was given permission by his club so I think they either did not understand the rules. I feel he is very unlucky.

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cavolo  
Earlier this year

Sixers not playing smart... maybe attacks loe and Webster hard seeing as they're on 3 fouls and the only ones doing anything for the breakers... sigh

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

It's clearly the club's fault, yes, but the principle stays the same.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't any ever make a smart arse comment about H and his eating habit and body shape.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Man that music is annoying on tv. Is it as bad being at the game?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bach can ball.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

Pinder is unplayable. It's incredible how poor he is defensively for someone that long and athletic.

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FSTOS  
Earlier this year

Adelaide can't keep Webster out of the lane. So many wide open looks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Does Pinder think he is playing U14 leaving the corner to help like that?

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Three to Make Two  
Earlier this year



"The decals seem even worse than usual... so many slips."

Yes, there's been about 4 slips already. Abercrombie's looked nasty but he seems ok now.

Although when the coach went on court to check on him, he should've been subbed? (although it was Adelaide's coach! ;-)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Humphries has gone from overrated media hype to an absolute gun. Great coaching by his g league club last season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As usual Lamar Fatterson comes in out of shape

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

The way this is looking I may have have been harsh on NZB only picking them to win by 12.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hang on, the 36ers played Melbourne last Friday, who'd been in Cairns and Queensland is a medium risk jurisdiction (for some reason the whole state tarred because Brisbane went into lockdown for 3 days, also Victoria is a low risk), so surely South East Melbourne are now a dirty club as well since they've been in contact with contacts after playing the 36ers Sunday and Wednesday and can't play Sunday in Perth.

Probably shouldn't try and make sense of WA's border restrictions, which seem to be an election ploy more than anything.

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Anonymous  
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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

What's crazy with Patterson is he arrived at the Breakers later than they wanted because he was playing in the Puerto Rican league. he should be in mid-season shape now yet looks like he's done nothing since last season finished.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

All Adelaide in the 4th

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Pinder's worse than Kyei.

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Gano6  
Earlier this year

Sixers making a run.. heat up DJ....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Decals for DPOTY.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Perth should play all games away till there rules match all other states. As said above how can Phoenix go to Perth this weekend.

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Ando  
Earlier this year

I'm loving Humphries... I don't know what's with the imports. Is it just that they still haven't acclimatised to SA summer?

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Ando  
Earlier this year

I'm loving Humphries... I don't know what's with the imports. Is it just that they still haven't acclimatised to SA summer?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" I don't know what's with the imports. Is it just that they still haven't acclimatised to SA summer?"

They're just not very good...

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

Sixers great work... here we go.... tough d..

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Ando  
Earlier this year

sorry about the double post. I'm too excited bout Humphries. Having said that NZ without cramps would be a different team

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Humphries has always been good, people are just impatient.

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Ananon  
Earlier this year

Dech is rubbish, will be exposed soon

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Loco  
Earlier this year

This coach is a moron.

No Giddey in the clutch.

Mindblowing stupidity,

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Refs doing everything to keep Sixers in it.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

Refs just shit the bed with that travel - and lack of foul - call on Patterson.

That's shockingly bad.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Dech with the crucial 'steal'

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

Come on OT... Sixers are real deal... believe..

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Henry has been woeful imo either the subs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL refs... That's embarrassing

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Ando  
Earlier this year

sloan did something... WOW!!!

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Peter Ward  
Earlier this year

Blatant foul by Sloan - no call?

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

Sloan knockers - eat shit...

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sloan MVP!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Little bit worrying that we can't commit a foul, seems to be working though

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Ando  
Earlier this year

Go Humphrey you big bear!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Dech AND Humphries BOTH fouled Patterson on that drive. Wow.

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fuckrefs  
Earlier this year

ahahahah foul maybe ??? hope refs will d...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

These refs are hopeless, feel for NZ

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And now no foul on Webster.

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Red74  
Earlier this year

no foul because there wasnt one dude

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yeah it was a o call, no foul no block.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Refs have kept 36ers in it. Surely they will win now as no way the fatigued Breakers can win this.

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

No foul .... Sixers are kings of OT...
Play to whistles .. gre a t d Sixers...
Too good ....

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

The sooking from Webster & Patterson is getting a bit much.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sixers are more fatigued playing four games in one week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" no foul because there wasnt one dude"

Humphries wasn't vertical, dude.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Fouls on Patterson & Webster? lol Turn it up

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Surprised the NZ coach hasn't gone off his nut, that game was stolen from them. Hopefully they get up in OT

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Nice Humphries too good for them to stop

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Machine

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

That home cooking is an embarrassment to the league. I accept that a bit of contact is allowed, but Sixers are getting away with a helluva lot right now.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

LOL what a sloppy turnover.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Bullshit

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Wow Breakers have been matched as low as 1.01 to win on Betfair.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Loe flopping because he can't guard Humphries, pathetic.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Horrible charge call. And then the makeup call. Just call the fouls right in the first place!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What a dumb foul... This game has not been a glowing example of the league.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

This overtime sure has been fugly.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Patterson's multiple turnovers are to blame for this loss.

Is Iverson the new Havrilla?

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Webster and Humphris stood out tonight ... and guess which one was protected by the refs.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Wow Breakers have been matched as low as 1.01 to win on Betfair.
Hilariously Sixers only traded as low as 1.02 and they actually won!

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

A win is a win but that no call in dying regulation was a terrible call, NZB have a legit gripe.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is it time Isaac Humphries lost the t-shirt under his uniform?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Humphries with the F word. He's so hard.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great effort from the Breakers. And good on the 36ers for getting the W. Humphries was great and the imports made some timely contributions.

Refs? Abysmal.

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Agree, LB

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hopefully the home cooking goes to all the home teams evenly, Cairns last Saturday was bad as well

Humphries and Dech were magnificent, Humphries at both ends but Dech on defence was first rate. Good win Sixers despite the home cooking.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Sixers still winless in regulation.

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Bigdog  
Earlier this year

Shamir recruited Iverson right?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" Hopefully the home cooking goes to all the home teams evenly"

Except NZ don't have any home games...

Dech was brilliant. He slowed Webster down and made timely plays on Patterson he too. Sure Webster hit a few 3s but Dech took away the penetration that was opening the easy looks for everyone else. Having said that, the Breakers were impressive given how little they’ve played together, and experiencing foul and injury trouble. They’ll be tough to beat once they’ve got a few games under their belt.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Humphries going to lose his match fee lol

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Hopefully the home cooking goes to all the home teams evenly"

^ The Breakers have no home games.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The bias against NZ by the refs is a disgrace, and it's been going on for years.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Well if breakers get home games in Melbourne let's hope they get the home cooking.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Get some kiwi refs in the NBL please.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

These old refs been here far too long.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Kiwi refs aren't NBL1 quality. One of tonight’s refs was a 3rd gamer. But hey yeah they are all old aren’t they.

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Bigdog  
Earlier this year

I'm thinking the bookies have infiltrated the breakers.

Their decision making down the stretch almost looked deliberately bad.

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Bigdog  
Earlier this year

I'm thinking the bookies have infiltrated the breakers.

Their decision making down the stretch almost looked deliberately bad.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Kiwi refs aren't NBL1 quality"

^ neither were the refs in this game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If anyone's been infiltrated by the bookies it’s the refs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Go qualify for your badge then #069 if it's that easy

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Ben  
Earlier this year

The missed call then blowing Patterson for a travel was f***ing pathetic. Embarrassing even.

Soured the final result a great deal.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I'm not sure that is up for debate Ben. That is fact

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cavolo  
Earlier this year

The young ref is an Adelaide boy but good 'ole Adelaide can't take credit for atrocious hair Lyons or you never know what you’re gonna get, Sir Pine....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Home court calling has always been a thing nbl, it's just the way it is until the nbl decides to address it.

Besides that it was a great game to watch, Humphries and Webster making it their personal shows.

I know it's only first game, but if Iverson is going to be in foul trouble anyway I think Ashley would be the better pick. Painful to watch him get the ball out of the paint zero reason for the Sixers to commit to him and dominated in the paint by smaller centers.

Good nbl debuts for Bach and Webster.

Also lol that missed travel on Galloway was a shocker especially when he drills the 3 a second later!

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Sixers fans getting a taste of what Perth fans experience every home game.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Good game overall, nz didn't get the rub of the green but that’s basketball, all sports actually. As said above hopefully on there Australian home court it goes there way.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"A win is a win but that no call in dying regulation was a terrible call, NZB have a legit gripe."
100% look at the reply and see the foul. Even Perthworld can see it.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Home cooking

NZ no home court this year. Hmmmm.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LV the home cooking posting Ķing.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Quality game by Humphries though.

Might be Australia's next great 5 man after Bogut and Baynes

Landale a 4/5 hybrid but pure 5 Humphries who's a better prospect than Humphries?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A well-officiated game. Very much aligned with the FIBA regulations

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I had Humphries outside my boomers calculations was waiting to see how the nbl season goes.
So far so good.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I missed this game due to having a life on a Friday night.
A shame sounds like it was a good one.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

I don't think the no-call on Patterson followed by the travel was really that bad. That sort of contact would get let go plenty during the game, and it would've been of almost no consequence had he not just picked up the ball and stopped playing, which is a dumbass mistake you'd get reamed for making in under 12s.

The no-call on the final possession, where Adelaide were trying to use their spare fouls to burn some clock, was far worse for mine.

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KET  
Earlier this year

What occurred with Lamar happens in all these close games - the team trying to foul, try to foul without doing it in an USF way as quickly as possible to avoid time running down the clock.

There are a lot of unwritten rules and unsaid conventions around this part of the game.

When it gets close with seconds remaining - 1) small fouls aren't called, to the advantage of the team trying to drain the clock down until the foul is very clear,
And 2) despite the obvious fact the fouling team is intentionally trying to foul, so long as they provide some pretense in the form of swiping at the ball, it won’t be called an USF.

So, Refs ignore the ticky tacky foul, normally to the detriment of the team trying to foul as the clock runs down further.

Then Lamar plays for the foul clearly travels and refs are in an awkward position where they can’t just go back and say "well now you’ve travelled and lost advantage we will call that foul that previously occurred but we didn’t call"

If you’re a NZ fan you’re pissed the foul wasn’t called, obviously.

if you’re a fan of a club that isn’t either NZ or 36ers you’d probably look at that and say “I’d rather the refs keep striking that balance and don’t call ticky tacky stuff to help the fouling side but also don’t want it delving into USF. If Lamar settles instead of theatricising a foul, NZ probably end up winning”

If I’m a NZ fan, I’m more annoyed by Lamar in that instance - everyone knows how the situation operates and you always need to settle and keep control of the ball.

Also if I’m a NZ fan - things are looking bright, the fact it was their first game and Adelaides fourth was obvious given the cramps and missed opportunities, fatigue, shots not quite going down etc. The match fitness wasn’t there - as you’d expect. Can’t replicate it in training. Next game they’ll come out firing.

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Bigdog  
Earlier this year

Breakers positives

Bach - better than advertised
Tai webster - we knew he was good
galloway - didn't expect him to contribute

Breakers negatives
Weeks - thinks he is a superstar rather than point guard
Patterson - weight
Iverson - hard to believe Shamir knew this guy beforehand and still recruited.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" The no-call on the final possession, where Adelaide were trying to use their spare fouls to burn some clock, was far worse for mine."

You mean the hacks at Tai Webster when he tried to go full court?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Breakers should have brought Brandon Ashley back instead of signing Iverson.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" Go qualify for your badge then #069 if it's that easy"

The thing is that the NBL has improved in so many areas in recent years, but the refereeing isn't improving at all let alone a similar rate. This isn’t a criticism that the referees are shit and aren’t valuable, just that they are making avoidable mistakes (we aren’t talking about contentious 50/50 calls last night, we’re talking fundamental basic errors) and the NBL needs to invest a little bit into the professional development and improvement of its referees. They are an important part of the game too.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Earlier this year

The foul calls at end of game are only part of it. Refs completely turn blind eye to theoff the ball scragging , holding and pushing on DJ by Loe, Delaney and Abercrombie. Was getting beyond a joke and then people wonder why DJ gets frustrated.
Rookie game by Giddey. Was pushed around and sorted out. His confidence dropped big time where he was second guessing everything, turning down options when they presented. He doesn't show any aggression and even looks like he apologizes to opponent if he bumps him accidently or something.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Bach could be find of the season. He's a genuine 3 and D guy. I can see him maintaining those minutes and Weeks falling out of the rotation when C Web is back.

" Iverson - hard to believe Shamir knew this guy beforehand and still recruited."

A bit harsh after only one game. He rebounded well, screened and sealed extremely well, in limited minutes due to foul trouble. He’s clearly there to help create separation for the Breakers guards and I think he did that. Give him 2-3 games to find his feet and adjust. Ashley, while I agree may have been a better fit for this season (no Bogut, no Plumlee yet), didn’t adjust to the foul calling for the entirety of last season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" The foul calls at end of game are only part of it. Refs completely turn blind eye to theoff the ball scragging , holding and pushing on DJ by Loe, Delaney and Abercrombie."

Agreed that the bad calls went both ways, but bad calls were a large reason why the Breakers lost the game.

Giddey is too polite. He has gotten stronger but he's lacking a bit of mongrel. He needs to be aggressive at both ends and not back down. He’s got the physical tools and skills, but he gets uncomfortable when he’s pushed around just a little bit. Does anyone else feel he picks up his dribble too early if the on ball pressure is aggressive?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Giddley shot very poorly, I think the coach got it right at season end. Humphries has made me shut up, great game and start to season. Delaney scrags on nearly every defensive play. Good teams win close games, nz looked rusty but should be good. Nz having Trist out didn't help. I’m not certain how he was not allowed to play as you would think he would’ve been training with the team, why only him. If he was the scapegoat so as to get into wa make Perth set up in another state like Illawarra, nz, kings, SEM have done.

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KET  
Earlier this year

" Does anyone else feel he picks up his dribble too early if the on ball pressure is aggressive?"

Absolutely. Very noticeable.

What I like about Conor Henry is he gives minutes to those that are playing well and offer the best strategic matchup.

Lastnight was Sloan Dech Humphries etc night, games before was Giddey, DJ

Can't knock the coaching in respect of offering the in form people the minutes

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Pop  
Earlier this year

Re 'A well-officiated game. Very much aligned with the FIBA regulations'. If that is true, the sport is in deep strife.

From my perspective it was possibly one of the worst-called games I have seen in a long, long time, irrespective of any potentially contentious calls.

The number of illegal screens - does Loe ever set a static screen and roll out without dropping the shoulder or hip? - that were ignored by the refs, referee badgering and abuse by coaches and players that was ignored, blatant holds on cutters and rebounders, including singlet grabs, blatant pushes ['push in the back' stuff] to the body on rebounders and chops and slaps on shooters' arms that were missed or ignored ...

I say ignored because I was watching from about the same level as a standing referee, so at least some of the action was directly in front of me, and believe me, to my eyes they were simply ignoring what was going on.

If that's not the case, and they were in fact not seeing [or recognising] what was being done, well, that's another problem. If that is the case maybe the refs [in general] are again becoming inured to blatant overt illegal physicality and sloppy/illegal manoeuvres [like continually moving screens].

I'm not being partisan in this. If that is 'well officiated' the game is in dire straits and I simply don't want to know.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

"What I like about Conor Henry is he gives minutes to those that are playing well and offer the best strategic matchup."

In theory I agree, but in reality Pinder had no business playing 20mins against a team that fielded mobile , undersized 4s and Dillon had no business matching up on Lamar Patterson.

That was the worst game I've seen from Giddey so far this season, and it wasn't even bad. He missed some good, makeable shots, and threw some passes that were just off the mark or his teammates didn't have the same awareness he did. Giddey might have played more than 20mins if Sloan and Dech weren't as serviceable last night.

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sixtiesrockstar  
Earlier this year

Sixers should have attacked with Humphries even more. You could see he was troubling Loe, etc, he had scored multiple possessions in a row, yet for patches they seemed intent on using DJ first, outside guys like Dech,etc and bypassing Humphries altogether. I think DJ should've been used as decoy for Humphries as DJ wan't having best of nights.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

Tale of two halves for mine, Pop. I thought most of the fouls they called in the 1st were there - some a bit soft, but there nonetheless.

The 2nd half was an absolute shambles, both in terms of calls made and ignored, culminating with some costly missed calls against Adelaide down the stretch.

Re Loe's moving screens: I had the exact same thought process. He sets moving, illegal screens just about every time - and obviously so. The weird thing is that some of his infractions are called, but most are ignored. The glaring inconsistency within and between games is what largely causes confusion and frustration for players and coaches.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Pop, the moving and illegal screens has been happening for a long time, as has grabbing cutters. It's time to clean it up, not easy though as the game moves so quickly now.

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

Agree with that, sixtiesrockstar. They needed to go to the [Humphries] well until it dried up. That was an ordinary game from DJ, but could have been valuable if used as a decoy more often.

One set they ran (in the 4th if memory serves) for DJ faking a ball screen and coming off a flare from Humphries worked wonders, resulting in a Humphries and-one.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes Adelaide are showing resistance and fortitude, no crying we were rob culture, I like it. No guarantee of finals but it is a start, I'll take my hat off to JVG and the coaching staff. I can see next season with a few changes Adelaide will be very good.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Without Pinder you essentially have Humphries/DJ and nobody else. Don't have much of a choice - I agree though and flagged many a time that lacking one more defensive big will be an issue and force 36ers to have Pinder running around messing things up and fouling. Not ideal by any means!

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PlaymakerMo  
Earlier this year

If not DJ/Humphries, why did they need a second big at all? Crocker or Sloan might have been able to match up on Delaney (who is 6'6), not mess up your rotations, and actually contribute something offensively. It was worth a try at least when Pinder clearly hasn't been working for Adelaide.

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KET  
Earlier this year

That would be very very small ball - rebounds are hugely important and positioning in offence - wouldn't be playing those boys in prolonged pf.

Adelaide messed up going guard heavy and relying on Pinder for all bench minutes

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They had Obi but he retired, was probably still a better option than Pinder.

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Stephen patterson  
Earlier this year

Can anyone refresh my memory on the rules surrounding the coach standing on the court during play? I've a quick skim at FIBA rules but couldn’t find it.

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

Team that loses always blames refs. Look at your game play. Refs no impact on great discipline team effort by Sixers.. strong accountable defense... breakers very one dimensional and LP seems liability....
Sixers are building...improvement already bubbling away IH Sloan Dech - looking good.. Mcvay best 6th man in NBL - he becoming Sixers spark...and Giddey - no one can guard ... DJ mister reliable.
Sixers are underrated- do so at your peril... had all the answers for NZ ...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Wow. Sixers threads are always entertaining.
If they lose it's
Coach sucks
Import sucks
Stupid refs.

If they win it's
We will make top 4
Sloan is improving
Mudronja is great etc... lol.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Wow!

From day one this has had me worried. Waiting to see what Henry had planned for these two, and if it would work?

With Bogut out of the picture, along with Pledge, were we going to see a trend back towards smaller front courts?

Has Henry unilaterally reversed that?

Who are the Cats going to run against this pair and others? Mooney and Jervis?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The home cooking in cairns and Adelaide has been dodgy, as long as all home sides get same it is what it is. It's the same in the nba.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Wow. Sixers threads are always entertaining

They will be even moreso once the Sixers hit the road - they are going to find out the hard way how bad their team sucks.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Can see why Perth fans are so loved

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

" Team that loses always blames refs. Look at your game play. "

No one is blaming the refs for the Breakers getting cramps, having Trist ruled out, Webster knifing himself, shooting the 3 ball poorly or having a ton of turnovers. But 9 times out of 10 a foul is called and Sloan never gets a chance to shoot.

“ Sixers threads are always entertaining.”

Yep. In the same way they won one then lost one against SEM, I feel it will repeat against the Breakers and this forum will see exactly what you described.

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

If you watch the post game interview with coach and Abercrombie no where did they blame others. Took responsibility for their mistakes and slow starts. They did indicate that they feel they will be better for the hit put and were looking forward to the rematch

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

They would if they could - Breakers personnel can't blame the refs otherwise they'd get fined.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NBL posted a statement today, that they're "working with the Australian Basketball Players' Association (ABPA) and its venues to assess and address the performance of court decals at the Adelaide Entertainment Centre, and will closely monitor the same across its venues".

See nbl.com.au for the statement.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Were the decals purchased from the Philippines?

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Jock  
Earlier this year

36ers bench is a concern, if they don't get minutes they'll be out of form or next to no use for the Coach from an impact point of view. What's the story with Mudronja anyway - why hasn't he been bled into the team? Does the coach have a problem with him or something? He's not a DP anymore....back to the NBL1 league this year maybe?

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Anonn  
Earlier this year

Jock clearly coach doesn't rate.... disappointing if continues ....

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