Anonymous
Earlier this year

New technical foul/suspension rule

I've heard through the grape vine that there is now a ruling in regards to technical fouls. 3 technical fouls and the player/coach is suspended for a week. What does everyone think of this?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What league?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The grapevine doesn't have a FIBA rule? If it does please cite it to keep KR happy. If not don't post crap based on the meaningless / unsubstantiated grapevine.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Don't want NBL refs with that sort of power

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where are we talking about this rule being implemented? Its a thing in the VJBL now if we're talking about a junior league? Think the NBA may have a threshold on tech fouls before you get suspended but its much more than 3

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Anon  
Earlier this year

I'm a player in 18s and during the game last night one of the opposition players received a technical foul and that ref proceeded to tell him that there was a new rule that he's only allowed 3 before he gets suspended so there's truth to this. I'm playing div 1 or what's called metro league 1s now i guess so not sure if the same rules apply for district league and below.

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Moses Guthrie  
Earlier this year

Basketball SA. New rule this year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's being implemented in SA after seeing a significant decline in behavioral issues in the Victorian Leagues. Applicable to all leagues except NBL1

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I dont want to be critical but how could they see whether there was a decline in issues...

They put the rule in during the 2019 season and have then had nothing to compare it to given 2020 was cancelled and 2021 has just started

The number of technicals I saw from the reports were not good, lots of people getting the maximum penalty after 5 technicals and not much movement from the first report to the second

Happy to be told im wrong if you have other info

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I haven't seen any final by-laws in SA stating that. Not sure how it can be implemented when no-one is clear on the new rules

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's SA. Meh...

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Classified  
Earlier this year

Nah.
I think they should keep 2 tech fouls and you are out of the arena, but i dunno if the suspension goes to it.

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Well Read  
Earlier this year

Good point, 375. However, this specific change has been confirmed for several months now and clubs definitely know the details.

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Under a Rock  
Earlier this year

#368 is it possible they compared the previous season stats in sports TG and then compared them to the stats from the season it was introduced, which would then show the reduction in technical fouls called?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#421 good point but I would imagine there would be some accuracy issues. The current tech foul rules require the referees to submit a jotform on the behavioural technical foul meaning high accuracy whereas the sportstg info isnt able to distinguish between behavioural and non-behavioural tech fouls!

Youre also relying on parent scorers to know to press techincal foul instead of the normal personal foul!

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Anon  
Earlier this year

BNSW started that rule in seniors about 6-7 years ago and a record was kept and if 3rd Tech or Unsportsmanlike or mix occurred you automatically received a one week suspension.

It taught some players and coaches to keep their mouth shut instead of being idiots all the time and they had to learn discipline.

Some junior associations had a rule if you received a Tech in the game you automatically sat out the following week.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Also the difference in capability of referees at various stadiums and competitions. I have seen one referee give 6 consecutive tech fouls as he couldn't manage a situation. A more experienced referee would probably given none.

I would hate to have a player missing an important game due to the inconsistent interpretation of a matter by referees or less experienced referees being influenced into giving a tech foul by a vocal crowd or coach.

I have no issue with the intent of the law but not sure we have people capable within SA to ensure consistency of application.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Tissue? How about coaches and players just play and shut their mouths and there will be no need to worry about inconsistencies

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

My understanding of FIBA rule is if you get two of either/or Tech/USF you are ejected. How does one person get three if thats the case?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Accumulated 3 tech fouls across multiple games Einstein. Hit your 3 tech threshold and your suspended

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Krazy  
Earlier this year

Would've put me in strife in the final stages of my div 1 district stages lol. My regression and incompetent referees were not a great mix!

Not a bad rule in my opinion TBH.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So you carry techs forward. What utter crap if true.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Haha and people think BSA are capable of tracking this? They can't even do the simple jobs they have. Is Morrison running the BSA marketing strategy. All talk no action.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's similar to the nba. Hence the jotform to track behaviour technicals.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Absolute joke if it is true. Just giving more power to refs, maybe teach the refs how to communicate and make them responsible for there mistakes before you start suspending players for the incompetence of some referees

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Absolute joke if it is true. Just giving more power to refs, maybe teach the refs how to communicate and make them responsible for there mistakes before you start suspending players for the incompetence of some referees

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anon  
Earlier this year

keep ya mouth shut and play ball. simple

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Show me in the rule book #822 where it says if a referee makes a mistake players and coaches can abuse them and swear at them? You're just snakey that there is a holiday coming your way because you can't keep your mouth shut.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Parents should be held to this cause some of them are the worse on the sidelines - U10 parents are top of the list. Tech fouls should be administered on spectators as well and put on the coach and I guarantee the coach will be making it crystal clear about their position. So many refs have left the game due to obnoxious behavior not only from parents but players. I know for a fact - ref's being spat on, threatened in parking lots, threatened physical harm, etc. These people have been reported and BSA either dished out minor penalties or done stuff all in the past and let these animals continue their bad behavior. The harsher the penalty the better - kids and parents will learn their lessons real quick. I say if refs are being threatened physical harm in future, bring the cops in and their children can see them be handcuffed and taken away in the back of a paddy wagon.

Their names should be up in lights on the website as suspended with a big picture.

This behavior shouldn't be a part of sport and teaching kids at a young age gives them good direction for their future in sports.

Yes - BSA and clubs should put this on public forum for everyone to read and know what the new rules are. Sport is supposed to be a fun activity even when competitive and many have taken that away because of they way they act.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You can't penalise the kids with technical fouls and potentially a loss due to the behaviour of a parent.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

But if a parent doesn't pay their fees - the kids is penalised by not playing. Would change parents attitudes and the game would be much better for it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

If only there were no parents in junior sports apart from dropping them off and picking them up. From having a break from coaching for a number of years to returning recently, parents are an absolute nightmare. Gone are the days where parents would just be there to support their kids, now they think they know more than anyone, coaches and refs especially. Not all are like that, but there's been a large increase in what I've seen. And not just in one club before everyone jumps on certain clubs. Been disgusted with behaviour of parents in my games that have had to tell them to calm down. But kids see their parents doing it and think its acceptable and copy them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So I 100% agree that there is no reason to abuse refs and as a Coach and a refs I think the answer is not as simple as "Just shut your mouth". From the coaching side of it the number of games where the ref's have no intersted in the game they are umpiring and spend more time talking to the mates on the side line is crazy and what is consequence for them??? Nothing 3 games here is your pay see you next week. As the coach if I question, complain escalate to the stadium supervisor nothing. So I control my player, parents and try and coach. When do we stay to the Ref's you get 2/3/4 warnings then sorry mate go home?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Unfortunately because your brethren have driven so many from the sport you cant because if you move them on the cupboard is bare.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Abuse is only one reason referees quit. To put it all on that is completely unfair.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why? Are you a ref? At the lower level it's a constant struggle every tick of the clock. No call is ever right.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes actually I am.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And I'm Larry K.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Reffing is the only job you can do wrong and still not get in trouble for it. I've never seen a head ref not back up his referee even if it’s blatant wrong

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

This would be hilarious at Big V level! I know a few teams that will be missing their coach every other week

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just remember - Coaches are the problem!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Youth league Big V coaches are the worst

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