KET
Years ago

New Adelaide city arena pledge

The centrepiece of Libs re-election campaign!

"Crisis elections" deliver good results for incumbents - there's a very good chance this happens now


https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/steven-marshall-will-pledge-to-build-a-city-arena-for-concerts-and-sports-to-replace-the-adelaide-entertainment-centre/news-story/6d82407af0492c2b8bdeddc4c4d3a446

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Big Ads  
Years ago

Not a subscriber to Advertiser but this is the site mentioned previously between Karrawirra Parri/ River Torrens and North Terrace, West of Morphett Street, Adelaide

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KET  
Years ago

If they end up building a CBD ~12-15k stadium that will setup the 36ers nicely. 36ers will be just fine at entertainment centre (10,500) until it is built.

Basketball infra wise, most clubs are in pretty good situation - Tassie with new infra, Cairns with new infra, Perth/Melbourne set, Sydney is ok albeit far from CBD. NZ is fine.

That leaves Illawarra with their crappy stadium

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't forget bullets wit new Olympic arena.

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Bolt  
Years ago

Sydney's entertainment centre is currently being rebuilt, hence their current location.

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KET  
Years ago

You're talking the ICC, that has been built already

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SA have no money so can't see this getting up!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

KET your bagging of Illawarra has become so predictable its rather comical.

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swish  
Years ago

Much noise was made about the Wollongong based Hawks regaining the name Illawarra and yet 99% of the time, they are still referred to as The Hawks. If it was such a big deal, why haven't they as least changed one of their uniforms to at least include the name of their region. It even looks like none of their merchandise includes Illawarra.
Why was the name Illawarra removed? I'm happy its back, but don't understand why it is not used.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

An indoor arena for concerts, conventions, basketball and other court sports will be built between Adelaide's railyards and the River Torrens, Premier Steven Marshall will announce today.

Unveiling a centrepiece of his re-election bid, Mr Marshall will pinpoint a site immediately west of the Morphett Street bridge and Adelaide Convention Centre.

The arena, expected to cost hundreds of millions of dollars, will replace the Adelaide Entertainment Centre.

It also will significantly increase the Convention Centre’s capacity, putting it in the market for larger and more lucrative events.

The axing of the Entertainment Centre, on Port Rd, Hindmarsh, opens the prospect of a major inner-city development including the adjacent West End Brewery site, slated for closure in June.

As revealed by The Advertiser in 2018, the Adelaide arena proposal has been developed by the Adelaide Venue Management Corporation, which operates the Entertainment and Convention centres.

TELL US BELOW: What questions do you have about the new arena? We will put the top reader questions to the government.

The Adelaide Entertainment Centre on Port Rd. Picture: Morne de Klerk / Getty Images
The Adelaide Entertainment Centre on Port Rd. Picture: Morne de Klerk / Getty Images
It is understood the arena will not include a soccer pitch, which in earlier proposals had involved a pitch that elevated to become a roof for indoor events.

The arena’s precise cost and capacity are not known, although The Advertiser has been previously told it would cost $700m - offset by the Entertainment Centre’s sale – and seat 30,000 people.

Defunct proposals that included the retractable roof for the soccer pitch ballooned the cost to $1.3bn, which was steadfastly opposed by Treasurer Rob Lucas.

Mr Marshall in February last year confirmed an arena was a central part of his government’s agenda, using parliament’s opening to declare active planning for major inner-city and sporting entertainment infrastructure. It is understood the latest plans have undergone preliminary assessment by Infrastructure South Australia, an independent body established in 2018 by the Liberals to scrutinise projects.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Sydney entertainment centre was sold to the developers, it's basically a block of units now. The owners of the Homebush arena don’t like competition and liberal governments love developers.
Good luck to Adelaide, hopefully you get it up and running soon.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another monorail ffs

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Election promises are like farts - easy to make, seem to have substance, gain attention, soon disappear but often have an unpleasant effect on those around them.

Look at any party's previous scorecard of promises versus delivery and you’ll generally come away disappointed .

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Zodiac  
Years ago

If it's anything like the govt's electrifying of the train lines it won't happen in our lifetime. Sounds good though, these projects always do. Not sure why the 36ers need it given they don't come close to filling the AEC but likely more about making the team more attractive to buyers.

Grant Kelley is always seen working over the Premier at home games the squeaky wheel always gets the grease.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They're not building it for the Sixers only.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Not much in that space now, and it would extend that new riverside district/facade well. That said, seems somewhat wasteful to be constantly throwing public funds at replacing serviceable infrastructure.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

They're not building it for the Sixers only.


I know but why do the Sixers need it other than making the team more attractive to sell? What's wrong with the AEC exactly?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A new venue in the city centre will attract more fans.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Another monorail ffs"

I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map! Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-car monorail!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I hear those things are awfully loud?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It glides as softly as a cloud

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

I feel like we're really seeing that Adelaide mindset on show here. Soon as someone says "let's do something" you hear a chorus of "why bother?" "what's wrong with things as they are?"

If it were up to some of these people we'd still be playing out of Apollo stadium.

I understand being a little dubious that this plan gets off the ground but I don't understand being in any way against it. Bigger stadiums mean potentially more events coming to South Australia, which means more opportunities for business, which is therefore better for everyone.

And if you're asking why Adelaide needs a bigger stadium, well, why doesn't it?

We may not fill up the Entertainment Centre at the moment, but we have seen a vast improvement on crowds since moving there. The reason being simply convenience. It is now easier to get to 36ers games, so now more people go to 36er games.

But how easy would it be if the games were smack-bang in the middle of the city? It would be easier for public transport, and it would just be convenient. Why not start your night out at a 36ers game? You could literally walk to the pub of your choice immediately after.

It also has convenience from a marketing standpoint. You can put up signs around the city, and the 36er crowds, wearing blue, coming to-and-from the games is the kind of free marketing money cant buy.

I see absolutely no reason why a successful 36ers team could not average 10+ thousand fans a game in this city. Absolutely none.

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DennisRodmansHair  
Years ago

Is there a chance the track could bend?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not on your life, my Hindu friend

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Monorail.....


Monorail....


MONORAIIIILLLL!!!!

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Perthworld  
Years ago

MONO... D'OH!

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KET  
Years ago

Agree - this is a no brainer.

These types of things see all the NIMBYs, Pissantry, Cynicism and general lack of ambition South Australians are famous for.

Usually starts with the "it's a waste of money, spend it on education and health", not understanding the fact that infrastructure like this are key drivers to economic prosperity, jobs and bringing revenue in from other states and countries. Economic prosperity is how you get into a position to have best possible investment in education and health.

Then you have the Parkland conservationists who fiercely believe in lots of barren parkland and vehemently oppose any sort of activation of parklands - despite a city like Melbourne showing exactly what you can do with parklands. A Riverbank Arena on the railway lines encroaching on the parkland/river turns that surrounding parkland part of the riverbank into an activated area that’s going to be used and enjoyed more.

Then you have the NIMBYs who just don’t want development of any kind and would love to see us remain in the 1950s, as if they own their own land property as well as the rest of the city.

This is how you have an undeveloped old Lecornus site that has now become so old there’s a second “old Lecornus site”.

Let’s be clear here - if it’s starting development after the WCH is built, so 2025, you’re talking a 2030 finish almost. 8/9 years down the line is the ent centre going to be up to scratch?

Here is an opportunity to consolidate convention centre facilities with basketball, netball etc instead of having multiple stadiums for multiple sports with multiple catering/facilities management. Leveraging the CC and consolidating makes financial sense. Having increased capacity means ability to have international conferences and the like. It means growth potential for 36ers, Thunderbirds etc - no reason to think we won’t see crowd increases like we have at Adelaide Oval. It becomes the city experience - night out, dinner then bball then a few bars.

This would almost be that final piece to the overall Riverbank/North Terrace development, it’s the right financial, economic, infrastructure move.

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Years ago

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Years ago

Yes, but let's say stupid things about the monorail because Adelaide getting a new arena is such a crazy idea.

There's a reason why Adelaide kind of sucks a little bit, and it's the people of Adelaide that make it that way

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Zodiac  
Years ago

That's alright ME you can go live in Melbourne with KET. This whole "Adelaide is just a big country town" mindset is perpetuated by Vics because they know they've irreversibly screwed Melbourne and want Adelaide to walk off the ledge with them.

Adelaide being 1/3 the size of Melbourne and the smallest of the five major capital cities is precisely what's great about it. I remember a few years ago big American rock band Queens of the Stone Age came to Adelaide their frontman Josh Homme who knows a thing or two about Aus having been married to a Melbourne girl for over a decade at the time said something to the crowd like "Adelaide is great for being Adelaide, don't try and become like Melbourne because they've stuffed that city".

I'm not advocating never do anything but all the best parts about Adelaide are because it's Adelaide you're virtually 20 mins from the CBD or the beach wherever you live, we've got the best designed CBD in the world, the best CBD parklands in the world etc.

The 36ers have got a perfectly fine AEC to play in that they never come close to filling that is virtually in the CBD only 2-3 mins drive out of the city with a tram at the front door. There is zero justification for the 36ers needing a bigger venue 2-3 minutes away.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From my understanding, Adelaide is roughly 100 courts short of what they need to be able to properly run the sport. How about some money gets spent on that instead of on yet another overpriced professional sport stadium.

If BSA let the clubs run their own stadiums rather than leasing them for as little as $1 per year and then charging clubs over $25 per hour for each court, maybe the sport would be in a far better place in this state.

Government should fix that problem first.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry Mom, the mob has spoken.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

909 1 venue has a lease that small and comes with all kinds of other costs. Nice try

Given clubs can't even run junior programs, same club in that $1 venue is a basket case right now, you're making a huge assumption clubs will be able to run stadiums effectively. Also $25 an hour per court is a bargain! Good luck getting that price from any other organisation. Remember a lease is just one cost. Electricity, water, maintenance, cleaning, insurance, staffing... It adds up quick.

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Years ago

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