Jack Toft
Last month

Perth v Adelaide Mar 22

This game wraps up Round 10, A-ight
The Sixers will finally get to see the Cats 10th* flag, A-ight
Giddey is out for the Sixers, A-ight
Perth are top of the table, A-ight
Adelaide have lost 3 in a row, A-ight
It'll be a brave person to tip the Sixers to win, A-ight

I think I've over dribbled.... A-ight

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lame. I expect better Jack.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

A-ight

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Kb_24  
Last month

If Giddey will not play, who will the point guard of Adelaide..Perth by 10

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Anonymous  
Last month

With Giddey out Perth are going to press all night & Adelaide are going to have problems just getting the ball over half court.

This isn't going to be pretty for the 36ers.

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Camel 31  
Last month

I been box-car riding on a freight train going West. -
They got fields all made of wheat and maize.
Western town is where I want to be. Western town is where want to stay.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I still like it Jack. Perth by fifty.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

Perth by plenty.

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Another Anon  
Last month

Wildcats on the big drift from $1.16 to $1.19 this morning!! ;)

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Anonymous  
Last month

Orrrrr......it just may highlight a few things for the 36ers in a positive way.

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Perthworld  
Last month

There is no drift as they opened at $1.27 originally.

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FM  
Last month

ADELAIDE by 8. We win games we shouldn't just to piss the fans off even more.

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Rhea 67  
Last month

Adelaide have changed over more of their roster than any other Club since last season (and so for in this season) - if don't starting winning soon, will JVG be the next change

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Adelaide have changed over more of their roster than any other Club since last season


Have we?

Here are the Sixers

Randle
Moore
Griffin
Drmic
Froling
Obi
* White but I am going to pretend he was never a Sixer.

Of that list the only ones you would 'want' to keep are Drmic and Obi.

So those people leaving are actually GOOD for the team.

Let's take Perth for example.

White
Kay
Martin
Plumlee
Majok
Vague

Other than Majok and Vague, you'd want to actively keep those guys.

Adelaide may have more turnover, but it is because those players are junk.

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Anonymous  
Last month

We already have the worst percentage in the NBL. Maybe we can pull a Sydney and forfeit, and get ready for our next game. It's ridiculous that Larry made us stay in Melbourne after the NBL Cup and then forced us to travel all the way to Perth in the same round anyway. But if you are not Melbourne, you are screwed over regardless

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Anonymous  
Last month

Majok didn't leave - he is out injured

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Zodiac  
Last month

Perth by triple figures.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

The Sixer starting line up is actually IMPROVED by inserting Paul.

Dech
Crocker
Paul
Pinder
DJ

The bench is where it falls into a heap after McVeigh
McVeigh.
Teys
Mud
Dillon
Hulland

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Perth fan.  
Last month

Hope so Zodiac. A 25 point beating is more likely

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Anonymous  
Last month

I just don't care any more. I used to love the 36ers but their is nothing about them I get excited about any longer. Great league, but the team does nothing for me.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You can always look forward to which player will be pushed out and then comes good in Brisbane next year

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LoveBroker  
Last month

I just don't care any more. I used to love the 36ers but their is nothing about them I get excited about any longer. Great league, but the team does nothing for me.


We can attract a big marquee name like Humphries, and would-have-been Rookie of the Year Giddey.

We will be moving to a huge stadium, meaning more revenue for the club and bigger names on the roster.

We have corrected the mistake of Sloan with Paul.

Isn't that a good start?

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Jock  
Last month

Pinder kissed on the N#ts with all the injuries and that he's even a starting five player. Just show's you where the 36ers are in the life of NBL right now.
Whoever recruited the current crop of Pinder and the bench should be shot and evited from the sport of basketball.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Let's be honest, Josh has been good, but DJ has been the ROY

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Perthworld  
Last month

#352 that would be Jeff van Groningen who seems to be a cat with nine lives.

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Titan 58  
Last month

Winning a game would be a start

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lovebroker, it's been shocking for years upon years. They don’t build rosters to win, they build them to save money. This isn’t like the nba where a bad season leads to a high draft pick. Each season you have to be aggressive with the bank book to get the rings. They haven’t bothered trying for a title for ages.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Humphries is the highest paid Aussie in the league, probably with the exception of Landale, Johnson is on good money, Crocker is probably a cheaper import but still costs and Paul would be on top $$$. Giddey as a next star would have his above wage paid by the club. Adelaide might not be in the United bracket by they do spend. It takes time to change things up, Humphries and Paul with Johnson are good starts.

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Ganneymede 90  
Last month

Perth by 43

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Anonymous  
Last month

Some idiot (LB) said.
"The Sixer starting line up is actually IMPROVED by inserting Paul.

Dech I say crap player
Crocker I say crap player
Paul Great player
Pinder I say crap player
DJ OK player

That side is far from an improvement

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Anonymous  
Last month

Paul aint all that, and Dech is FAR from crap. Greatly improved, legit two-way player. I like him.

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Anonymous  
Last month

How much $ is Humphries and Landale on?

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Zodiac  
Last month

You can accuse the Sixers of bad administration but I don't think you can accuse them of not spending. Last season's Sixers team was reportedly one of the most expensive in the league (Griffin was said to be on $400K) and this season would likely be similar.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Humphries said to be on $400K & Landale some suggested $800K.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No Giddey, no Humphries, and Brandon Paul STILL does not start.. LMAO.. Only Adelaide..

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Anonymous  
Last month

If Melbourne paying Landale that sort money they got rocks in there head, but then they Kennedy 750 a few years back.

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Anonymous  
Last month

400k? Zodiac is on the terps again.. He was touted as the highest paid before Jock signed. I love how you pull 'facts' and numbers out of your arse. 800k. haha

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Anonymous  
Last month

DJ Johnson $325,000
Pinder $240,000
Dech $210,000
Crocker $290,000
Paul $415,000

The Sixers spend, just on the wrong players

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Perthworld  
Last month

Pinder and Mudronja in the Sixers starting five. Mind blown.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Man all these people guessing salaries. Pinder $240K bullshit. Dech $210k. You sir are an idiot.

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Ganneymede 90  
Last month

"Steindle. He's a terrible defender". Interesting call from Henry with camera on!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh god, Purchase is already a SA local with the dirty mullet

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Anonymous  
Last month

He's not wrong

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Scout  
Last month

Perth home cooking goin on

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Anonymous  
Last month

I can see why Teys doesn't get a lot of court time.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth home cooking? I thought they were a little hard done by as a neutral supporter

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Luuuc  
Last month

Good start by the 6ers (other than Teys). The better team so far.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Agree, but strange why Henry made him Captain

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Camel 31  
Last month

Good game, so far. Pretty to watch

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Anonymous  
Last month

He was touted as the highest paid before Jock signed.


That's right highest paid local prior to Landale, not including imports.

I love how you pull 'facts' and numbers out of your arse. 800k. haha


I don't pull anything out of my arse, those are the figures clown anon's like yourself say they're on.

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Zodiac  
Last month

That was me above.

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Scout  
Last month

Gleeson whinging then gets the next call

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Anonymous  
Last month

That smell...home cooking.

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Perthworld  
Last month

It tastes so much better after being away from home for so long.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Cotton is a bloody legend

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Zodiac  
Last month

Cotton with 20 already

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Anonymous  
Last month

Zodiac exposed himself, arguing between his signed-in account and his anons. Get a life

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Anonymous  
Last month

$290,000 for Crocker? Man he must wake up laughing every day.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Disgusting defence by DJ

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twenty four  
Last month

DJ is cooked. Been looking horrible for a month now.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Book it . The floodgates will open in the second half. Gallant effort by the Sixers but the floodgates will open in the third

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Zodiac  
Last month

Only down 6 at the half, happy with that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

McVeigh 20 point second half incoming. Book it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

if DJ is away from Adelaide where he can cry his way to the foul line effectively then he becomes mediocre very quickly.

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Anonymous  
Last month

DPOY candidate Dech did a great job in Cotton in the first half, but looks gassed

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Perthworld  
Last month

#Cotton50watch

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Anonymous  
Last month

Boomer Bryce? It makes a mockery of Australians who grow up dreaming of representing their country. May as well take the easy road and nationalize to the Philippines.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Disappointed with Bryce going unselfish in those last 5 minutes instead of going for 30.

6ers did well to claw it back when it looked like it could blow out. With BP3 on the bench.

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Surely Paul starts and gets 35 minutes. How is he coming off the bench. This is not a strategic move it's just stupidity. Paul must be think what on earth have I gotten myself into

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sixers only play till halftime, this is going to end terrible.

If Crocker, Pinder are on that sort money JVG should quit now. Crocker is a bust and Pinder should be on minimum amount.

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Harry  
Last month

Can someone talk me through Henry's rotation strategy?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Crooker is not a bust, he is a thug who sometimes makes a basketball play or two.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Can someone talk me through Henry's rotation strategy? "

Yeah, sure. You overdribble, you overdribble, you overdribble, you are not even playing and you f*king overdribble. Oh, and Steidl is a s*it defender

Thats about it. But actual rotations, just look at the first quarter of the NZ game to learn his sub strat

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Anonymous  
Last month

Cotton scored 23, if that's a good defensive job I hope it improves in the second half.

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Anonymous  
Last month

That lack of D on Mooney from DJ towards the end is a real soul destroyer. The captain just opened the gate for him and then turned around to bag his team mates for the lack of help. Those type of moments just kill the team's morale and you can see that our offense turned into individual's just getting their shots after that. We were just lucky that a few dropped.

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twenty four  
Last month

"Crooker is not a bust, he is a thug who sometimes makes a basketball play or two."

How is your finger going, Jack?

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's quite the amazing owner/GM/coach/captain combo you have over there in Adelaide.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"How is your finger going, Jack?"

Good, thanks for asking. I'll be back soon and looking forward to playoff basketball. How's your passport going, Barry? Looking forward to Poland?

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Perthworld  
Last month

This is hilarious - Crocker BEAST MODE?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Crocker ahead of Paul, oh my. He might be on an hourly rate and there saving coin.

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

How can someone fail as much as JVG and still get a job? The average joe on here could do better

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Perthworld  
Last month

Love the camera work showing a bemused Paul on the bench. Even the broadcast crew and producer are scratching their heads at Henry's subs.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yinka, that's standard for basketball in SA.

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Anonymous  
Last month

And still, despite Henry, Radelaide right there

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Perthworld  
Last month

Say what you will about JvG but he has adapted by becoming the head of a minority ownership group buying into the Sixers back in November. Good luck getting rid of him now.

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Peter  
Last month

WTF is BP not playing? It's not only terrible tactics, but why would he want to hang around next year.

Must be be feeling the love being 3rd sub

He is still our best option even if doesn't know the plays.

If he isn't on minutes restrictions and being saved for the stretch then someone has some questions to answer. Hell even Andrew Gaze is calling it out

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Cairns probably watching Paul very closely for next season if there are 3 imports

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twenty four  
Last month

"He is still our best option even if doesn't know the plays."

We have plays?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Man this D is terrible without Pinder.

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Peter  
Last month

Fair call twenty four, we certainly didn't in the last 2 possessions against Pheonix

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Anonymous  
Last month

Former Adelaide superstar Kevin white

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Anonymous  
Last month

Connoisseur Connor looks like he is about to have a stroke

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Paul getting frustrated at how bad his teammates are.

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Anonymous  
Last month

BP3's body language not good, but really, can anyone blame him? Looked bewildered in their mini huddle even

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Paul back to the bench. This is comical

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Anonymous  
Last month

Brandon Paul might as well go home

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Didn't sook, cheered on his teammates, need him fresh for the fourth"

How didn't Gaze succeed in Sydney?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just give him the ball, clear out a side and let him work.

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's painful watching a dumb coach trying to be smart.

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Anonymous  
Last month

50 watch update?

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Perthworld  
Last month

29 only.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Mostly do not agree with homicide but he's 100% right re Paul.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Seriously just need the Paul and Pinder 2 man game pick and rolls, pick and pops whatever just get those to involved every time down the court.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yet another idiot said ""Didn't sook, cheered on his teammates, need him fresh for the fourth" How didn't Gaze succeed in Sydney?"
Nothing to do with Gaze. If you were actually paying attention and clearly you weren't it was Damian Martin that made those stupid comment.
Yes we know Gaze can't coach. His "expert" comments on tactics are meaningless to me.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Finally Cotton gets there free throws.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Watch Purchase on d fence. Absolutely clueless.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pinder by far and away the best defender in the NBL

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Perthworld  
Last month

three

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Anonymous  
Last month

463 never change. The world needs more keyboard warriors

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Anonymous  
Last month

Henry Conner. Idiot.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Dech would look so good back in a Cats jersey. I miss him.

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Anonymous  
Last month

How are we in this when only DJ,Crocker and Pinder have played well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pinder just as clueless as Purchase on defense. When JVG brings in Mason Gaze next season the Sixers will have the trifecta.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yet another person who is clueless, he's just fouled out!!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Crooker = dumbass. The sooner this moron is out of the league the better

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Anonymous  
Last month

6ers are officially a rabble

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Anonymous  
Last month

I've never seen any team allowed to play Bryce so physically, yet he still puts up numbers. Absolute superstar. Would have 50 if they actually blew the whistle when he is fouled. Never complains, just balls out. Love him!

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Anonymous  
Last month

27-11 just leave that cooking here.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I have said it since day 1. Crocker is a Barry. Who he has a job I don't know.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Norton you should be embrassed

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Anonymous  
Last month

Norton. FLOP.

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Zodiac  
Last month

God the home cooking they get is appalling.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The Sixers love starting shit in Perth when they're losing

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Btown  
Last month

The melts on this will be some good reading.

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Perthworld  
Last month

How is this margin only single digits?

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Anonymous  
Last month

We can't get a damn rebound without Pinder

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Btown  
Last month

Sixers should focus on boxing out instead of the refs. Coach is a numpty.

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Well when adelaide get their full team together they will have humpries Johnson Paul giddey dech. That will probably be the bench though if Henry is coaching

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Anonymous  
Last month

Remember when Adelaide was Perth's rival ? Now they are Perth’s bitche$

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Anonymous  
Last month

This team has no chemistry next season we should only keep McVeigh DJ and Pinder.

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Anonymous  
Last month

were do u get 8 players from

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Anonymous  
Last month

We win tgis game if Dech and Pinder don't foul out.

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Yinka Dare  
Last month

Who needs to watch a Netflix comedy when you can watch the sixers

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Anonymous  
Last month

"How is this margin only single digits?"
Perth aren't that good. Adelaide are far worse.

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Isaac  
Last month

Norton has killed them. Troubled Mudronja constantly, and then some key plays later on.

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Anonymous  
Last month

This is some absolute scum in the Perth crowd tonight. Paul hurt himself and some dero started screaming "NBA's not calling you back". Jesus Christ I got $20k on Perth but calm down.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Wow, there are so many big bets on tonight's game.

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Isaac  
Last month

Why is DJ still out there? Game is gone.

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twenty four  
Last month

The Pinder trolling loses its impact slightly after 20 posts.

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Anonymous  
Last month

when sydney nz 36ers and utd are 100% are perth still winning it all

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Anonymous  
Last month

Paul has an ankle injury and the physio with the garbage knot tie on his head hasn't applied any ice. Says a lot about the whole of Adelaide's program.

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twenty four  
Last month

DJ should stay out there till he manages to box his man out.

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Anonymous  
Last month

26ers 100% has what impact on Adelaide stopping Perth? LMAO

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Btown  
Last month

DJ is woeful in almost every aspect on the defensive side of the court.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Purchase makes DJ look like Defensive player of the Year.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Saved by injuries & O-boards.
I wasn't impressed with the Cats at all. Thankfully Adelaide were worse.
Good to see Norto getting some love though. He was excellent.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth are wining it again.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Fair enough. Sorry. I was impressed with the Cats.

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FM  
Last month

Why is Connor still coaching? If we are now destined to 2022 chance to make the finals, cut him.

Tonight he was the only person in the basketball community to think having Paul on the bench was helping.

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Anonymous  
Last month

36ers have worst percentage in the league. And have played many more home games than most. Going to be a loooooong couple months to come.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Its crazy because when the 36ers all lost their shit they were very much in the game, perth never really seemed to get going. But some stupid techs and even dumber fouls and there it goes. Also not only do you bench Paul, when crocker gets hot to start the 3rd or 4th whichever, you drag him, for not Paul!!! Lol

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Another Anon  
Last month

How can Paul only have 5 field attempts? He's clearly their best shooter already, every second play should go through him.
Unforgivable.

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Luuuc  
Last month

He was -13
Maybe Connor thought that his mere presence on the court was firing up Cotton to unbeatable levels ;)

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Anonymous  
Last month

Spotlight starting to turn on the 36ers coaches now. Strange philosophy to have coaching that game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Henrys Tech was at a crucial time and more than turned the flow of the game, followed up by Crockers action (fish rots from the head). Is it true he was arguing about the position o of the foul being on the leg and not the arm? If so, why? Has he lost the plot?

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Lovebroker  
Last month

Coming out of the NBL Cup, the Sixers needed to have a 2 wins - 1 loss ratio to make the playoffs, they have responded with 2 losses, one to SEM without Creek and Broekhoff scoring 1 field goal.

I am beyond frustrate, I understand we have lost 2 key players and now Paul (but thats OK he's only our 8th Man so no loss).

I thought we did good in the first half and again couldn't string together another decent half.

Those people taking shots at DJ, do you realise if it weren't for him we'd lose by 20? 8/14 with 2/3 3pt not good enough for you?

Yes he bleeds points but at least he will keep the opposition honest on the other end in this game.

I'm old school I believe rebounding wins games as part of good defence. Mooney got 9 offensive board. 9! The Sixer's tally as a collective? 5. LOL. Again I understand Humphries is out but this is still unacceptable by any stretch.

If Paul is injured for any more than 2 games I think that is it. Send him and Crocker home, let the younger guys play.

Henry is a big big problem here but I fear he might get a free pass due to the injuries.

Flames on the way but I would take Joey Wright over Henry ANY DAY. Except for the last season Wright kept his team honest and got more out of people.





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Anonymous  
Last month

It is pretty telling that every man and his dog bar the main main himself was wondering why Paul was either not starting our not even on the court. And then when he is on there he hardly gets a touch.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Man Sixer fans are a different breed. Insult and name-call all night, abuse players and other supporters, literally talk crap so much that it dribbles down your chin, then cry and moan when other people speak.

Sixers are not that good. Never were, never will be. That's sports. Look for little signs and hope it carries over into next season. Stop being so negative and abusive, both to fellow posters and your players who are out there on the court trying.

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Anon  
Last month

Just about done with Sixers. Be positive and pimping all season seeking a reason to Be OPPO...but shit creek looks a good option because this is a titanic team... BP3 was meant to be the man and can't get on court .. purchase is clearly a give away and tinder pinder ain't worth banging the dunny door about.. I starting to want to see crazy hazy days tays rewinding father time... given up on mud and Hollander.. Don't start me on dear Henry dear Henry get the bucket. And please JVG let's get serious about getting some guns

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Anonymous  
Last month

Giving up 19 offensive boards and only getting 4 yourself is NOT playing hard. Don't be trotting out that garbage in a press conference.

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KWhite_Rulz  
Last month

I wouldn't give up on the Sixers just yet. Humphries and Giddey will be back next week and Paul's injury doesn't look to bad. I think Henry will eventually roll out a Giddey/Dech or Crocker/Paul/DJ/Humphries lineup once everyone is available which is very competitive.

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Bol  
Last month

The sixers were impressive considering the adversity they faced for this game. It should have been a blow out game but they kept themselves in it up until the last few minutes.

If they can get their full roster together with humphries and giddey. Play paul more than 11 minutes. Stop with the brain fades and tech fouls. Play some decent D and box out on the boards. Get a different coach and pinder becomes half the playa his old man was. Then they might have a very good team!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Henry seems to be a mug coach

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Perth fan.  
Last month

Keeping Henry for the duration of his three year contract is what I would like to see.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adelaide is missing Giddey and Humphries. You go to Perth and make it somewhat competitive and shoot 50% from the floor.
What more do you want?
You scream about Paul's minutes, do you want him playing a full 40 a week out of quarantine and then you sook when he gets injured?

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Anonymous  
Last month

But but but we must take thybulle over cotton....

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Shano76  
Last month

Cotton won't get the calls he gets in the NBL internationally. Great player, top 10 Nbl all time for sure. But he’s protected out there.
Does Gleeson ever shut up? Refs the game and coaches. Did someone hear on the mic " the nba isn’t calling you back" when Paul missed that last shot and hurt his ankle? Wonder who said that. Mostly I heard Gleeson whinging.
Sixers were gutsy enough, but clueless.
Missing Giddey and Humphries and a coach who knows what they’re doing.
All in all, a result that was expected. Perth aren’t great but still way too good. Few calls went their way in the last qtr too, shocked at that.

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Shano76  
Last month

That should've read Perth weren’t great, on the night. They’re definitely having a great season. Mooney is a star.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Paul didn't start and wasn't even the first sub into the game

Played 18 minutes before rolling his ankle

The biggest issue is that he got 5 FGA, not one offensive structure was run for him, not one pick n roll with DJ. Simple basic basketball.

Henry has no plan and his subs are erratic. 11 played last night , 9 played the OT game vs SEM and thats with Teys getting 4 minuets and Purchase 1 in that game.

The players dont know what they are doing one game to the next. Pinder starting is like a cancer on the group. He doesnt warrant being on court and creates dumb fouls which lead to free throws. He is a liability at both ends, yet Connor keeps him out there.

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The Sixers are beyond frustrating. Pretty consistently in a position to win, or at least push teams to the edge and then just die in the arse, usually through poor judgement.

To go down by 10 in Perth with two of their best players out is admirable. But it could have been a win.

Offensive Rebounds. Tech Fouls. Turnovers. Giving Pinder Court time. If you fix any two of those four issues, you'd go close to winning the game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Some Mud minutes good to see but couple of rebounds and one assist is low for 15mins game time and a nervous ball handler as a guard. Does he get more time or have 36s seen enough now

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LV  
Last month

Perth defeats Adelaide sans Humphries and Giddey, with the margin in single digits for most of the night.

This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats.

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LV  
Last month

Paul got injured too?

Sheesh.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Anyone signed bar McVeigh under Joey Wright would be very nervous.

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KET  
Last month

" This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats."

You're playing with fire - Perth has too good of a track record to be discussing it that way

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Anonymous  
Last month

LV is never going to give recognition to Perth for anything they achieve.

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Shano76  
Last month

I still think Perth are gettable, by someone. Although Cotton as an Aussie will help them. They haven't copped any major injuries have they? Imagine Mooney or Cotton going down. Teams like SEM, 36ers, United and Kings have been injury plagued. Credit to the cats, but there’s a lot of season left. Wouldn’t be marking down no 11 yet.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

I'm happy with Perth's start too.
If you said they would be ladder leaders this early on I would take it.

There is plenty of season left however and my concern is Perths lack of depth.

Give Adelaide some credit though keeping the game close throughout with no Giddey,no Humphries, a spud import (Crocker) and a spud coach , they actually went ok.

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June  
Last month

Mitch Norton's flopping - wow - but I guess he has learnt from the best at Perth

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Anonymous  
Last month

Flopping?

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TB  
Last month

The fact that they reviewed that play and still awarded the foul shows the ref's thought there was no flop.

LV bringing up Paul going down as beneficial to the cats is ridiculous, there was 2min to go and they were down by 11 at the time and Paul had taken a total of 5 shots.

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Shano76  
Last month

Did anyone hear the "the NBAs not calling you back" directed at Paul on the last play...appeared to come from a coach's mic...

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's been mentioned several times, but came from the crowd.

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KET  
Last month

Is the crowd refreshingly honest with everyone?

They could direct the same at Cotton, just without the "back"

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LV  
Last month

[You're playing with fire - Perth has too good of a track record to be discussing it that way]

If Cotton gets naturalized and they get a quality 2nd import, then Perth will deservedly be championship favorites. Or perhaps a close 2nd behind United.

But, that wont change the reality that they've leapt out to an 11-4 start, being helped by plenty of close ish wins against opponents missing 2 or 3 rotation players. Yes, loads of teams have injuries but Perth has uniquely benefited- eg all the early games vs SEM, playing NZ after Corey Webster injury, playing Sydney while Martin was out, etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yep, definitely a fluke, just like their 3 titles in the past 4 years. They were just lucky Melbourne's defenders had a bad day when Terrico White went off.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Shano, how do you figure the comment came from the coaches mic?

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Anonymous  
Last month

The only title United won was because Childress got injured.

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Anonymous  
Last month

TB they reviewed the play to see whether they needed to upgrade from a normal foul to a USF! It's a review, not a coaches challenge (which is no longer available) where the call can be cancelled. So whether Norton flopped or not has absolutely stuff all to do with the review.

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cavolo  
Last month

Yeah, generally like Mitch Norton but it appeared on the foul he got from Pinder and then Paul that he didn't plant his feet and when he got contact he didn't brace for it (rebounding contest/box out and then setting a screen), and allowed the contact to knock him over like he had no legs. Liked that the commentators called him out for the flop on the screen. Pretty embarrassing from a solid, hard working player.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'm almost certain he doesn't give a fuck what you think.

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Kas  
Last month

Yes Perth is the biggest team of floppers

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LV  
Last month

if Perth keeps this team, they wont win the title. United, SEM, Sydney will all be substantially stronger with full strength lineups. Any of those teams fit and firing come playoffs will defeat Perth.

However, If Cotton naturalises that will be a game changer

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LV  
Last month

[United, SEM, Sydney will all be substantially stronger with full strength lineups]

Of course there's always the chance that absences keep hurting these teams

Perth could truly win a Bradbury. We'll see.

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LV  
Last month

And of course any other lineup upgrade could be a game changer too

Perth have done incredibly well getting to 11-4, even with their lucky injury run and their opponents injuries. Perth have put themselves in a position where they can fight for home court advantage, which is crucial.

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Anonymous  
Last month

LV still obsessed with teams "on paper"

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LV  
Last month

[LV still obsessed with teams "on paper"]

Not at all.

Those teams I mentioned have decent structures in place. Mitchell has impressed me in 1.5 seasons and Forde likewise from the bits and pieces I've seen. It's a reasonable inference to me that with better cattle on the court, those teams will improve. United likewise.

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Anonymous  
Last month

And Perth have a better structure.

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LV  
Last month

Perth has the best structure in the comp, the best coach and the best player

But it won't be enough to overcome the talent deficit in players 3-10 in their rotation, when they're coming up against well-coached, balanced teams who have had 6 months to develop their own structures

Like I said though, if Perth upgrades their roster (and there's a strong chance they will) that talent deficit will be less significant or even non-existent and then Perth will really take some beating. Especially if they get home court.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"LV still obsessed with teams "on paper"


This is true, but as a fan it's an easy trap to fall into. Perth as it stands can win a title on the basis of how hard they play, how well they execute and how good their 'big 3' is performing. They are very susceptible to injuries though as they are lacking depth.

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Anonymous  
Last month

But it won't be enough to overcome the talent deficit in players 3-10 in their rotation, when they're coming up against well-coached, balanced teams who have had 6 months to develop their own structures

You made the same prediction last season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There are a handful to a dozen posters on here who when they post you just have to systematically disregard. LV is very high on that list right along side Daz.

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Shano76  
Last month

I thought it must've because I could hear Gleeson whinging all night. Very witty from the crowd. Least Paul had played NBA I guess. Must be wondering what he’s got himself into with this rabble though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If you'd heard Gleeson all night you probably should have realised the guy who said it sounded nothing like Gleeson.

I thought it was an ordinary comment considering Paul was potentially injured at the time but the rest of the crowd applauded him so let's not forget that either

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Anonymous  
Last month

Think cotton played a few games with the jazz? Or that preseason games?

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Anonymous  
Last month

No team has a Cotton and Mooney combination, even if no second import arrives they are favourites. Sydney have Glover and Cooks out, Glover could cause trouble in spurts as great at both ends, Cooks is a way off so not certain he'll help much, didn’t really set world on fire last season either, certainly against Perth. SEM you would not think Creek will be back, court case take time, they still could trouble but Creek is a big loss. United are probably the best chance but need to be full strength.

So Perth is the team to beat as per usual.

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Shano76  
Last month

I never said it was Gleeson did I? I just heard it and wondered, never accused. Yes it was ordinary, but I'm sure much worse gets said. Always a comedian in the crowd, probably an old fat dude in a red jersey who hasn’t played at any high level.

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LV  
Last month

[You made the same prediction last season.]

Not sure that I did

I tipped Sydney to win Game 3, but so did most people. If you read the thread I started, there were even Perth fans tipping Sydney by 15.

United had Perth's measure last season, and United were denied by a game winning MVP refereeing performance for coach Will Weaver and the boys in Purple]

It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. Hopefully this year and some revenge for 2019.

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Peter Ward  
Last month

Whst did you actually do to " get the Grand Final we deserved."?

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Mobbin  
Last month

Did LV get attacked by a wild cat as a kid?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not sure that I did

I tipped Sydney to win Game 3

You tipped them to win because Sydney had the better team on paper. You went into a detailed analysis why Sydney was better... On paper.

You acknowledge that Perth has the best structure, player and coach, yet you look past this because you think that other teams are better on paper.

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KET  
Last month

" It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. "

Some would say United got one it didn't deserve.....

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LoveBroker  
Last month

This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats.

United played SEM with no Sykes, no Gibbo, No Pineau and No Broekhoff, yet lost.
This would be like Bradbury taking a break and sitting down for a Latte whilst USA and China fell.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Anyone signed bar McVeigh under Joey Wright would be very nervous.


DJ should be nervous? He is the star of the show.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

United had Perth's measure last season, and United were denied by a game winning MVP refereeing performance for coach Will Weaver and the boys in Purple

United were denied the GF by giving away a lead in Game 1 of the Sydney SF that would make Connor Henry blush.

It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. Hopefully this year and some revenge for 2019.

Deserved. The sense of entitlement is quite incredible.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hopefully this year and some revenge for 2019.

Oh you mean the year that a heavily favoured United lost at home to a Wildcats team that only had two imports and faced heavy criticism all season for not being talented enough to go all the way?

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LV  
Last month

[United were denied the GF by giving away a lead in Game 1 of the Sydney SF that would make Connor Henry blush.]

You're right.

A Game 1 choke and a game 3 denied by the refs.

But either way, that was a series where the better team lost. It happens.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Do you see planes? Is your name Tattoo? Because I think you live on Fantasy Island.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If United was the better team, why weren't they above Sydney on the ladder at season's end?

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LoveBroker  
Last month

You're right.

A Game 1 choke and a game 3 denied by the refs.

If United had held onto a lead that could have been achieved by merely doing a 24 second violation on every United possession, there wouldn't have been a Game 3.

But either way, that was a series where the better team lost. It happens.

You are a knob.

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LV  
Last month

[If United was the better team, why weren't they above Sydney on the ladder at season's end?]

United took a lot of time to get going and work themselves out

They were starting to peak at the right time. If it wasn't for the dodgy reffing in Game 3 (and the Game 1 choke, yes Lovebroker) they would've rolled into the Grand Final against an opponent they'd easily had the better of. (2-2 but look into the details of the two losses and you'll understand why the two double digit wins over Perth later in the season are a better guage of where things were at)

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LV  
Last month

[You are a knob.]

My pleasure.

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Anonymous  
Last month

LV, when will you learn?

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Anonymous  
Last month

But with LK in charge how did they get dodgy reffing?

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Anonymous  
Last month

So the best team in a series choked away a loss....thats now how any of this works!

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LV  
Last month

Here's the box score

https://basketball.realgm.com/international/boxscore/2020-03-05/Melbourne-at-Sydney/359130

27 fouls to 15.

Sometimes every foul is deserved- a lop sided count isn't necessary indicative of referees favoring one team. But rest assured that wasn't the case in this game. It was one of the more disgracefully one sided games you will see

It was a real shame, United had finally worked out the right balance, Trimble was red hot averaging 23ppg at 53% from the field over the last 7 games after being relegated to the bench (including the semi series). United's talent was finally clicking, and it would've been awesome watching them go up in a repeat of 2019 against the Perth juggernaut.

Instead we got a truncated 3 game series, ended prematurely by Sydney.

Disappointing. Such is sports. Such is life.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Complaining about Game 3 of the SF when Game 1 was the cause is like complaining about physical trauma from an accident when the motorist refuses to wear a seat belt in the first instance.

Declaring oneself as the best team because you beat the eventual Champion twice whilst also losing twice is incredibly asinine. Even more so when you consider you barely made the playoffs and couldn't keep a SF lead that the 88 SuperCats would have comfortably.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Crazy how LV lives inside y'all heads rent free. The thread is about Perth and Adelaide, yet everyone just personally attacks this guy who, regardless of what he says, remains respectful. Crazy how the site removes a post saying they hope Brandon Paul misses 4-6 weeks as that is 'offensive', but they allow personal attacks and bullying on another member of the forum.

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LV  
Last month

[Declaring oneself as the best team because you beat the eventual Champion twice whilst also losing twice is incredibly asinine]

Look at the details and the trend.

Saying "2-2' without further analysis is literally the level of analysis I would expect from a toddler.

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LV  
Last month

Good on you anon #634, it's all fun and games

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koberulz  
Last month

United were absolutely screwed out of game three last year. I started the game wanting the Kings to win and was supporting United by the end of it due to how blatant it was.

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LV  
Last month

[Declaring oneself as the best team]

Btw, never said we were the best team, I said we were the better team in the SF series and would've felt good going up against Perth

Whether we were better than Perth or would've beaten them, I'm not suggesting that. Perth are big game Cats. Just hoping a healthy United get the opportunity this year

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LV  
Last month

[United were absolutely screwed out of game three last year. I started the game wanting the Kings to win and was supporting United by the end of it due to how blatant it was.]

If you look up the game thread, many people thought it was blatantly one sided

Thats always the best test with these things- what do the neutrals think?

if it was just United people complaining, you could fairly easily dismiss it as bias. Not so.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

If you look up the game thread,


There wouldn't have been a SF Game 3 game thread, if Goulding and Barlow didn't shoot hero threes with half the shot clock still available.

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koberulz  
Last month

If Melbourne wins game one, no way in hell does game two go down the same way it actually did.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lovebroker - I think the poster may have been giving Johnson a pass as he got his contract extension after Wright left the 36ers. That extension was in May 2020 and Wright left in February 2020.

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KET  
Last month

Why does it matter who Perth beats or would have beaten whether it be Sydney or Melbourne?

Important aspect to understand is Perth won and would have won it regardless of who they faced

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LoveBroker  
Last month

According to LV, going by the 2 game sample space of United beating Perth twice by 10+ points, they would have beaten Perth.

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KET  
Last month

For United to make the finals they have to get through Sydney.

Putting aside that they did get, much like Perth v Melbourne we have to look at a hypothetical alternative reality. If we follow LVs method of looking at regular season, do we look at Sydney smacking Melbourne and say that Sydney win anyway?

Playoffs is different from regular season. Melbourne were more competitive than regular season, Perth was more competitive than regular season.

I'd have backed Perth to have beaten Melbourne and given their track record, given they actually did win the damn thing, there’s no leg for any United fan to stand on to think they’d have won it all.

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KET  
Last month

Putting aside that Sydney beat Melbourne***

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LV  
Last month

It would've been probably 60/40 in Perth's favour, given they would've had HCA

All I said was United would've felt good going in, which is undoubtedly true when you review the 4 regular season matchups

In a comp like NBL, regular season definitely matters as it illuminates the matchups of that particular year. Historical results carry less weight in a competition with significant player movement every season.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

Hypotheticals are pointless

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LoveBroker  
Last month

If we follow LVs method of looking at regular season, do we look at Sydney smacking Melbourne and say that Sydney win anyway?

I think he's blocked out Casper putting on a show and staring at the United bench.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

All I said was United would've felt good going in, which is undoubtedly true when you review the 4 regular season matchups

So you are looking at the 4 games and not the last 2 United wins.

In that case, with a 2-2 record how did you surmise that United were going to 'feel good' especially when both teams won home and away?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Because he thinks Perth got lucky in their two wins while uniteds two wins were the greatest of all time.

This is obviously ignorant to the fact that Perth destroyed Melbourne in the previous year's GF, and were improved on that year's time, while Melbourne had regressed. Perth certainly would not have feared Melbourne.

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LV  
Last month

[In that case, with a 2-2 record how did you surmise that United were going to 'feel good' especially when both teams won home and away?]

30 sec rundown of the 4 games

Game 1 in Perth- United missing CG43, Barlow, Prather/3rd import. United led for most of the game, Perth won by a point

Game 2 in Melb- United fresh off the plane after 2 games in the US, 4 days after playing in Sacramento (or whereever it was). Still missing 3rd import. Perth by 2.

Game 3 in Perth- United absolutely destroyed them. Perth scored a few late to make the score look more respectable but it was a thrashing. United by 13 and still without their 3rd import who signed soon after

Game 4 in Melb- United by 10. Shot out to a 13 point quarter time lead and never looked like losing

Based on the 4 games, a big win for United despite the 2 losses

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LV  
Last month

[This is obviously ignorant to the fact that Perth destroyed Melbourne in the previous year's GF, and were improved on that year's time, while Melbourne had regressed. Perth certainly would not have feared Melbourne]

I don't agree that United had regressed

Based on the first 3/4s of the season yes, but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20

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LV  
Last month

[but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20]

And again a hypothetical, but if they'd won that Game 3, they would've given Perth a real shake, no way would it have been a comfy Perth win ala 2019.

Perth beat a cooked Bogut in a swinging series that was prematurely ended by COVID. There's an asterix on that one.

And Sydney had chances to win game 1 before losing by 2, and beat Perth easily in Game 3. This was a Sydney team who were down by what, 59 against United in Game 2?

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LV  
Last month

And Bogut actually did bring it in Games 1 and 2 vs Perth, but not as good in Game 3, would've struggled with his body in Games 4 and 5 I assume, given he was practically limping up the court most of last season

End of the day, luck always comes into it- Sydney had chances to win Game 1- a very very very tight GF that was literally ended early by a pandemic.

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KET  
Last month

Why does it matter how you lose? You still lose

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LoveBroker  
Last month

I don't agree that United had regressed

Based on the first 3/4s of the season yes, but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20


You seem to like to use micro level details to misrepresent reality.

When people speak of whether one has improved or regressed, one would simply go to the ladder for the truth.

In 2018/19 United finished with the equal best record in the league with 18-10 with Perth and Sydney, only losing out to close percentages.

In 2019/20 United finished 15/13 (One game above.500 with the amount of money you spent), and only snuck in due to percentages and one Jordan Ngatai brain fade in Perth.

That is the very definition of team regression, by any measure anyone seeing this would conclude Melbourne were a worse team than the year before.

Picking minute level positive team dynamics because Melo was benched is just stupid.

Will Weaver made Sydney even better (read : improvement) with 20-8.

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LV  
Last month

Just pointing out the obvious that United were unlucky last year and Perth were lucky

Perth won a GF that was ended by a virus, after United had their season ended by referees (something that outraged many neutral fans at the time)

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LV  
Last month

[When people speak of whether one has improved or regressed, one would simply go to the ladder for the truth.]

And those people we would rightly call simple minded

Richmond's 3 premierships are no lesser merely because they finished 3rd or 4th on the ladder every year. Richmond has mastered the art of peaking at the right time. Something United was doing last season until the refs handed the deciding game to their opponents on a purple platter

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LV  
Last month

[Richmond's 3 premierships are no lesser merely because they finished 3rd or 4th on the ladder every year.]

Not only that, but they've scraped into top 4 every year off the back of a late season winning streak. And won 3 flags doing that

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Anonymous  
Last month

Sydney limped into the finals, Weaver had them at 11 and 1 but as season progressed they got worse. Yes the refs helped Sydney in the win over Melbourne, that's what home court advantage gives you. In the GF Bogut was busted and Gleeson had Weaver measure, Kay and Cotton had the measure of Ware, Cook and Tate as well, Damo did damo stuff and Sydney did not respond. As per normal Perth win.

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Isaac  
Last month

Just when you thought an Adelaide loss thread couldn't get any worse...

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Old Mate  
Last month

Give it up LV, you'll live longer...

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LV  
Last month

[In the GF Bogut was busted and Gleeson had Weaver measure, Kay and Cotton had the measure of Ware, Cook and Tate as well, Damo did damo stuff and Sydney did not respond. As per normal Perth win.]

Not that simple, Sydney had chances to win Game 1 from memory

Perth were a missed game winner from losing that series

End of the day, after 120 minutes of basketball 3 points separated them. Evenly matched, each team won one comfortably, and one went to the death.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Just pointing out the obvious that United were unlucky last year and Perth were lucky

Perth won a GF that was ended by a virus, after United had their season ended by referees (something that outraged many neutral fans at the time)


I see.

Melbourne who went out and got the 2 players from the All NBL second team to go with CG43 and MM, then added Stanton Kidd were unlucky.
Melo and Long under-performed for the first 2/3 of the season and Melbourne were unlucky.
United choked away a huge lead in SF Game 1 with horrible shot selection were unlucky.

Perth had Dario Hunt which often didn't but they were lucky.
Perth had to play GF Game 1 in Sydney with a full crowd and won, that was lucky wasnt it?
Yet when it came to Game 2 over in Perth, they got no crowds, no revenue, that was lucky too.
Perth then won on the road again in Game 3, all jag and no skill right?

Then to top it off LK (owner of United) and Jeremy L decided to gift the series to Perth despite basketball being a game that crowns the top of the ladder team. Jackpot!

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LV  
Last month

Of course to a degree you make your own luck.

But when the most influential performer for your opposition in a deciding playoff game isn't even a member of the opposition team, you can reasonably say you were unlucky.

And when a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic gifts you the championship without you needing to complete the series, after you won an opening game that could've gone either way, then we can reasonably say they were lucky in the circumstances of the playoffs.

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Perthworld  
Last month

The funny thing is when I think of lucky NBL titles the first thing that comes to mind is United's sole championship against the Sixers after Childress got injured.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just like 2019, Perth had the measure of their GF opponent.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Dickhead LV conveniently forgets that Terrico missed one of those Melbourne wins last year.
But that narrative only works when it's Perth who benefits

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can someone tell me who won out of Perth v Adelaide last night? That's the title of the thread isn’t it?

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Perthworld  
Last month

Who won is irrelevant because both teams were lucky to be fixtured in for last night, therefore depriving United of a win.

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LV  
Last month

[Dickhead LV conveniently forgets that Terrico missed one of those Melbourne wins last year.]

Perth had an injury? Wow, that's a rarity. Usually it's other teams, like this whole season

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LV  
Last month

[Just like 2019, Perth had the measure of their GF opponent.]

After 120 minutes of basketball they had their opponents measure by...... 3 points.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are you serious? In the past few seasons Perth have had Martin, Norton, White, and preceding them Knight, miss multiple games but they still won. I'm not talking about the GFs, I'm talking games on the road, down a few men, but they still won yet you bitch and moan for months when Perth happen to have a clear run of injuries, despite not having a "strong team"

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Anonymous  
Last month

"After 120 minutes of basketball they had their opponents measure by...... 3 points."

Pretty sure Perth had won 5 of the teams' past 6 meetings, so yes they had the Kings' measure. They've just been too good for Melbourne and Sydney the past two years.

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LV  
Last month

Fair point, Perth have had their share of injuries through the years, even going back to Bevo's days where Martin and Redhage suffered injuries that disrupted entire seasons or playoff series

It's not that I want Perth to have injuries, it's that I want to be watching a full strength United, SEM, Sydney, NZ, Adelaide right now

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TB  
Last month

Corny as all he'll line but...'the best ability is availability'

A couple of years ago Richmond lost Rance in round 1 and he missed the whole season. Since then I can't remember a significant injury and now they are headed towards a 3peat. Team cohesion is as important as form but depth matters more, when Rance went down Grimes stepped up.

3 seasons ago when Utd were LUCKY (lol, jokes) to play Adelaide in the final Cotton missed significant time (5 games I think) with a thumb injury, but others stepped up and I think we won 3 of the games he missed. other's stepped up and got the job done and we made the playoffs, Adelaide were just BETTER when it counts in our semi. Try saying that LV when you lose...'The other side was BETTER'.

The refs were shit in game 1 of that semi last year but I give the kings credit, they stuck with it and hung around (for the last time it seemed) and made Utd adjust which they didn't and lost. A season includes playoffs and the games are 4 quarters, Utd should learn that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

At the end of the day the margin never matters, if you only ever win by a point then you did enough to win. To say a team could have lost on a shot is great but a bit like saying its wet when in rains, no shit. You can only play the hand you're dealt, you play who is on the court. Also on this game, 17 extra offensive possessions, more than enough opportunity to draw extra fouls against a sloppy defence. For every supposed soft one cotton gets on his shot I'd say there is plenty more not called when he is working off ball, and you know what in basketball and most sports the biggest names or assets usually get "looked after" more, because they generate revenue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So what if a Grand Final series was close. You would expect that in most cases.

And when Melbourne United won their title against Adelaide, didn't it go 5 games and Childress missed games due to injury?

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Zodiac  
Last month

Joey Wright doesn't want to talk to Melbourne about Melbourne.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The Childress injury was definitely unfortunate.

But there are too many people saying
"could have, should have, would have"

History can't be changed. Let it go.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Look up the word 'Childress' in the dictionary and you'll find a ton of salty Adelaide supporters trying for dear life to cling to an excuse as to why they lost. They were never going to win. The Adelaide Crows losing to Richmond, those same salty supporters I can understand as the Crows were the best team, but 36ers, lol. Should not have even been in the Grand Final, and if it was not for all the free throws it would have been a sweep. The only joke about that series was how long it was dragged out.

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Gus3232  
Last month

Let it go? On here? ROFL!

I am expecting someone to say "Well, Perth would not have won the 1990 title if Andrew Gaze hadn't suffered from a thrombosis!!. Not fair!"

On another note, if you EVER blame the umpires/refs/officials for your team losing a game, you are a moron. End of story. Until a team shoots 100% in a game with zero turnovers, then there is always something they could have done to change the result.

The amount of 13 year old boys trapped in the bodies of adults in here is eye watering.

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LV  
Last month

[On another note, if you EVER blame the umpires/refs/officials for your team losing a game, you are a moron. End of story. Until a team shoots 100% in a game with zero turnovers, then there is always something they could have done to change the result.]

What a ridiculous thing to say

Of course there are always multiple factors at play.

But we should demand better refereeing than what occurred in that game, and improvement will happen when it's demanded.

And saying "if the reffing had been fair and reasonable, my team would have won" is NOT the same thing as saying "the referees were the only reason my team lost".

gosh, learn some nuance in the English language, and learn to walk and chew gum at the same time.

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LV  
Last month

In other words, saying "United was kicked out of the playoffs by the referees" or saying "The most influential performer for the opposition were the referees" can be true simultaneously with the statement that "United could've done things better and would've won if they'd played their best game".

All three statements are true, as it happens. There's nothing inconsistent about that or difficult to understand.

You might ask why the focus on reffing, and what's the point. Well, it was one of the worst, most egregiously poorly and one sided games I've seen- so it's worth talking about- and hopefully the uproar at the time was heard by the powers that be.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Heard in what way? That they sacked the 3? Nope as they all did GF games last season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I don't necessarily agree with Gus but I will say if you blame the refs for losing a GF one year and a SF the next, while pretending your team was firing on all cylinders and ignoring all other factors, you're a moron.

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LV  
Last month

[I don't necessarily agree with Gus but I will say if you blame the refs for losing a GF one year and a SF the next, while pretending your team was firing on all cylinders and ignoring all other factors, you're a moron.]

I have never blamed the refs for losing 2019

I started a thread listing the timestamps of the 9 fouls on McCarron in the 2 Perth games, to draw attention to the ridiculous home cooking

But given United was trounced at home in Game 4 (and smashed in Game 3), no one could argue Perth wasn't the deserving victor and the better team.

Totally different situation to the 2020 semis where United lost by 2 points in a game where many neutrals were disgusted by the one-sided reffing.

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Anonymous  
Last month

2019 Perth won over Melbourne, fair and square. Just like Melbourne won over Adelaide in 2018, fair and square. Perth should of and were awarded the chip in 2020 because Sydney quit. The decision was theirs, not the league or the government, and it was the only acceptable outcome. 2021 will now be played out, and where it all falls is where it falls. End of thread.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adelaide lost to Perth two nights ago fair and square.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

LV finally acknowledged Perth were the better team in 2019 series. I appreciate that.

As for 2020 semis maybe Melb were hard done by but I'm grateful we got Sydney in the final. Was more confident of getting past them.

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Anonymous  
Last month

United don't have the mental fortitude to beat a great team like Perth who are hard ass winners in a series. It’s not happening

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LoveBroker  
Last month

I have never blamed the refs for losing 2019

OK.

I started a thread listing the timestamps of the 9 fouls on McCarron in the 2 Perth games,

This is a prime example of ref blaming.

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Anonymous  
Last month

LV your time stamping is biased and means sweet fuck all

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Anonymous  
Last month

^ right next to your 'opinion'

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jesus this Thread deteriorated worse than the 6ers finals chances.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I love Aussies that use the word ass. I bet their sentences are full of "like" as well. Math, crap and so it goes on. As Gus said "The amount of 13 year old boys trapped in the bodies of adults in here is eye watering."
We won't go into all the ref bias not the expert coaching from the sidelines from people that have probably never played any form of basketball let alone coaching a Z grade team. Even if they did that gives them no qualifications nor right to criticise and NBL coach so badly. Have they ever reff'd is real life? I bet not. So tiring now here I must say.

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koberulz  
Last month

Well those are definitely all words. Except "reff'd", I guess.

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