A-ight

If Giddey will not play, who will the point guard of Adelaide..Perth by 10

I been box-car riding on a freight train going West. -
They got fields all made of wheat and maize.
Western town is where I want to be. Western town is where want to stay.

Perth by plenty.

Wildcats on the big drift from $1.16 to $1.19 this morning!! ;)

There is no drift as they opened at $1.27 originally.

ADELAIDE by 8. We win games we shouldn't just to piss the fans off even more.

Adelaide have changed over more of their roster than any other Club since last season (and so for in this season) - if don't starting winning soon, will JVG be the next change

Adelaide have changed over more of their roster than any other Club since last season

Perth by triple figures.

The Sixer starting line up is actually IMPROVED by inserting Paul.

Dech
Crocker
Paul
Pinder
DJ

The bench is where it falls into a heap after McVeigh
McVeigh.
Teys
Mud
Dillon
Hulland

Hope so Zodiac. A 25 point beating is more likely

I just don't care any more. I used to love the 36ers but their is nothing about them I get excited about any longer. Great league, but the team does nothing for me.

Pinder kissed on the N#ts with all the injuries and that he's even a starting five player. Just show's you where the 36ers are in the life of NBL right now.
Whoever recruited the current crop of Pinder and the bench should be shot and evited from the sport of basketball.

#352 that would be Jeff van Groningen who seems to be a cat with nine lives.

Winning a game would be a start

Perth by 43

You can accuse the Sixers of bad administration but I don't think you can accuse them of not spending. Last season's Sixers team was reportedly one of the most expensive in the league (Griffin was said to be on $400K) and this season would likely be similar.

Humphries said to be on $400K & Landale some suggested $800K.

Pinder and Mudronja in the Sixers starting five. Mind blown.

"Steindle. He's a terrible defender". Interesting call from Henry with camera on!

Perth home cooking goin on

Good start by the 6ers (other than Teys). The better team so far.

Good game, so far. Pretty to watch

That was me above.

Gleeson whinging then gets the next call

It tastes so much better after being away from home for so long.

Cotton with 20 already

Disgusting defence by DJ

DJ is cooked. Been looking horrible for a month now.

Only down 6 at the half, happy with that.

#Cotton50watch

Disappointed with Bryce going unselfish in those last 5 minutes instead of going for 30.

6ers did well to claw it back when it looked like it could blow out. With BP3 on the bench.

Surely Paul starts and gets 35 minutes. How is he coming off the bench. This is not a strategic move it's just stupidity. Paul must be think what on earth have I gotten myself into

Can someone talk me through Henry's rotation strategy?

"Crooker is not a bust, he is a thug who sometimes makes a basketball play or two."

How is your finger going, Jack?

It's quite the amazing owner/GM/coach/captain combo you have over there in Adelaide.

This is hilarious - Crocker BEAST MODE?

How can someone fail as much as JVG and still get a job? The average joe on here could do better

Love the camera work showing a bemused Paul on the bench. Even the broadcast crew and producer are scratching their heads at Henry's subs.

Say what you will about JvG but he has adapted by becoming the head of a minority ownership group buying into the Sixers back in November. Good luck getting rid of him now.

WTF is BP not playing? It's not only terrible tactics, but why would he want to hang around next year.

Must be be feeling the love being 3rd sub

He is still our best option even if doesn't know the plays.

If he isn't on minutes restrictions and being saved for the stretch then someone has some questions to answer. Hell even Andrew Gaze is calling it out

Cairns probably watching Paul very closely for next season if there are 3 imports

"He is still our best option even if doesn't know the plays."

We have plays?

Fair call twenty four, we certainly didn't in the last 2 possessions against Pheonix

Paul getting frustrated at how bad his teammates are.

Paul back to the bench. This is comical

It's painful watching a dumb coach trying to be smart.

29 only.

Finally Cotton gets there free throws.

three

God the home cooking they get is appalling.

The melts on this will be some good reading.

How is this margin only single digits?

Sixers should focus on boxing out instead of the refs. Coach is a numpty.

Well when adelaide get their full team together they will have humpries Johnson Paul giddey dech. That will probably be the bench though if Henry is coaching

Who needs to watch a Netflix comedy when you can watch the sixers

Norton has killed them. Troubled Mudronja constantly, and then some key plays later on.

Wow, there are so many big bets on tonight's game.

Why is DJ still out there? Game is gone.

The Pinder trolling loses its impact slightly after 20 posts.

DJ should stay out there till he manages to box his man out.

DJ is woeful in almost every aspect on the defensive side of the court.

Saved by injuries & O-boards.
I wasn't impressed with the Cats at all. Thankfully Adelaide were worse.
Good to see Norto getting some love though. He was excellent.

Fair enough. Sorry. I was impressed with the Cats.

Why is Connor still coaching? If we are now destined to 2022 chance to make the finals, cut him.

Tonight he was the only person in the basketball community to think having Paul on the bench was helping.

How can Paul only have 5 field attempts? He's clearly their best shooter already, every second play should go through him.
Unforgivable.

He was -13
Maybe Connor thought that his mere presence on the court was firing up Cotton to unbeatable levels ;)

Coming out of the NBL Cup, the Sixers needed to have a 2 wins - 1 loss ratio to make the playoffs, they have responded with 2 losses, one to SEM without Creek and Broekhoff scoring 1 field goal.

I am beyond frustrate, I understand we have lost 2 key players and now Paul (but thats OK he's only our 8th Man so no loss).

I thought we did good in the first half and again couldn't string together another decent half.

Those people taking shots at DJ, do you realise if it weren't for him we'd lose by 20? 8/14 with 2/3 3pt not good enough for you?

Yes he bleeds points but at least he will keep the opposition honest on the other end in this game.

I'm old school I believe rebounding wins games as part of good defence. Mooney got 9 offensive board. 9! The Sixer's tally as a collective? 5. LOL. Again I understand Humphries is out but this is still unacceptable by any stretch.

If Paul is injured for any more than 2 games I think that is it. Send him and Crocker home, let the younger guys play.

Henry is a big big problem here but I fear he might get a free pass due to the injuries.

Flames on the way but I would take Joey Wright over Henry ANY DAY. Except for the last season Wright kept his team honest and got more out of people.

Just about done with Sixers. Be positive and pimping all season seeking a reason to Be OPPO...but shit creek looks a good option because this is a titanic team... BP3 was meant to be the man and can't get on court .. purchase is clearly a give away and tinder pinder ain't worth banging the dunny door about.. I starting to want to see crazy hazy days tays rewinding father time... given up on mud and Hollander.. Don't start me on dear Henry dear Henry get the bucket. And please JVG let's get serious about getting some guns

I wouldn't give up on the Sixers just yet. Humphries and Giddey will be back next week and Paul's injury doesn't look to bad. I think Henry will eventually roll out a Giddey/Dech or Crocker/Paul/DJ/Humphries lineup once everyone is available which is very competitive.

The sixers were impressive considering the adversity they faced for this game. It should have been a blow out game but they kept themselves in it up until the last few minutes.

If they can get their full roster together with humphries and giddey. Play paul more than 11 minutes. Stop with the brain fades and tech fouls. Play some decent D and box out on the boards. Get a different coach and pinder becomes half the playa his old man was. Then they might have a very good team!

Keeping Henry for the duration of his three year contract is what I would like to see.

Cotton won't get the calls he gets in the NBL internationally. Great player, top 10 Nbl all time for sure. But he’s protected out there.
Does Gleeson ever shut up? Refs the game and coaches. Did someone hear on the mic " the nba isn’t calling you back" when Paul missed that last shot and hurt his ankle? Wonder who said that. Mostly I heard Gleeson whinging.
Sixers were gutsy enough, but clueless.
Missing Giddey and Humphries and a coach who knows what they’re doing.
All in all, a result that was expected. Perth aren’t great but still way too good. Few calls went their way in the last qtr too, shocked at that.

That should've read Perth weren’t great, on the night. They’re definitely having a great season. Mooney is a star.

The Sixers are beyond frustrating. Pretty consistently in a position to win, or at least push teams to the edge and then just die in the arse, usually through poor judgement.

To go down by 10 in Perth with two of their best players out is admirable. But it could have been a win.

Offensive Rebounds. Tech Fouls. Turnovers. Giving Pinder Court time. If you fix any two of those four issues, you'd go close to winning the game.

Perth defeats Adelaide sans Humphries and Giddey, with the margin in single digits for most of the night.

This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats.

Paul got injured too?

Sheesh.

" This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats."

You're playing with fire - Perth has too good of a track record to be discussing it that way

I still think Perth are gettable, by someone. Although Cotton as an Aussie will help them. They haven't copped any major injuries have they? Imagine Mooney or Cotton going down. Teams like SEM, 36ers, United and Kings have been injury plagued. Credit to the cats, but there’s a lot of season left. Wouldn’t be marking down no 11 yet.

I'm happy with Perth's start too.
If you said they would be ladder leaders this early on I would take it.

There is plenty of season left however and my concern is Perths lack of depth.

Give Adelaide some credit though keeping the game close throughout with no Giddey,no Humphries, a spud import (Crocker) and a spud coach , they actually went ok.

Mitch Norton's flopping - wow - but I guess he has learnt from the best at Perth

The fact that they reviewed that play and still awarded the foul shows the ref's thought there was no flop.

LV bringing up Paul going down as beneficial to the cats is ridiculous, there was 2min to go and they were down by 11 at the time and Paul had taken a total of 5 shots.

Did anyone hear the "the NBAs not calling you back" directed at Paul on the last play...appeared to come from a coach's mic...

It's been mentioned several times, but came from the crowd.

Is the crowd refreshingly honest with everyone?

They could direct the same at Cotton, just without the "back"

[You're playing with fire - Perth has too good of a track record to be discussing it that way]

If Cotton gets naturalized and they get a quality 2nd import, then Perth will deservedly be championship favorites. Or perhaps a close 2nd behind United.

But, that wont change the reality that they've leapt out to an 11-4 start, being helped by plenty of close ish wins against opponents missing 2 or 3 rotation players. Yes, loads of teams have injuries but Perth has uniquely benefited- eg all the early games vs SEM, playing NZ after Corey Webster injury, playing Sydney while Martin was out, etc.

Yeah, generally like Mitch Norton but it appeared on the foul he got from Pinder and then Paul that he didn't plant his feet and when he got contact he didn't brace for it (rebounding contest/box out and then setting a screen), and allowed the contact to knock him over like he had no legs. Liked that the commentators called him out for the flop on the screen. Pretty embarrassing from a solid, hard working player.

Yes Perth is the biggest team of floppers

if Perth keeps this team, they wont win the title. United, SEM, Sydney will all be substantially stronger with full strength lineups. Any of those teams fit and firing come playoffs will defeat Perth.

However, If Cotton naturalises that will be a game changer

[United, SEM, Sydney will all be substantially stronger with full strength lineups]

Of course there's always the chance that absences keep hurting these teams

Perth could truly win a Bradbury. We'll see.

And of course any other lineup upgrade could be a game changer too

Perth have done incredibly well getting to 11-4, even with their lucky injury run and their opponents injuries. Perth have put themselves in a position where they can fight for home court advantage, which is crucial.

[LV still obsessed with teams "on paper"]

Not at all.

Those teams I mentioned have decent structures in place. Mitchell has impressed me in 1.5 seasons and Forde likewise from the bits and pieces I've seen. It's a reasonable inference to me that with better cattle on the court, those teams will improve. United likewise.

Perth has the best structure in the comp, the best coach and the best player

But it won't be enough to overcome the talent deficit in players 3-10 in their rotation, when they're coming up against well-coached, balanced teams who have had 6 months to develop their own structures

Like I said though, if Perth upgrades their roster (and there's a strong chance they will) that talent deficit will be less significant or even non-existent and then Perth will really take some beating. Especially if they get home court.

I thought it must've because I could hear Gleeson whinging all night. Very witty from the crowd. Least Paul had played NBA I guess. Must be wondering what he’s got himself into with this rabble though.

I never said it was Gleeson did I? I just heard it and wondered, never accused. Yes it was ordinary, but I'm sure much worse gets said. Always a comedian in the crowd, probably an old fat dude in a red jersey who hasn’t played at any high level.

[You made the same prediction last season.]

Not sure that I did

I tipped Sydney to win Game 3, but so did most people. If you read the thread I started, there were even Perth fans tipping Sydney by 15.

United had Perth's measure last season, and United were denied by a game winning MVP refereeing performance for coach Will Weaver and the boys in Purple]

It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. Hopefully this year and some revenge for 2019.

Whst did you actually do to " get the Grand Final we deserved."?

Did LV get attacked by a wild cat as a kid?

" It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. "

Some would say United got one it didn't deserve.....

This is turning into a brilliant Bradbury season for the Wildcats.

Anyone signed bar McVeigh under Joey Wright would be very nervous.

United had Perth's measure last season, and United were denied by a game winning MVP refereeing performance for coach Will Weaver and the boys in Purple

It's a shame we didn't get the Grand Final we deserved. Hopefully this year and some revenge for 2019.

[United were denied the GF by giving away a lead in Game 1 of the Sydney SF that would make Connor Henry blush.]

You're right.

A Game 1 choke and a game 3 denied by the refs.

But either way, that was a series where the better team lost. It happens.

You're right.

A Game 1 choke and a game 3 denied by the refs.

But either way, that was a series where the better team lost. It happens.

[If United was the better team, why weren't they above Sydney on the ladder at season's end?]

United took a lot of time to get going and work themselves out

They were starting to peak at the right time. If it wasn't for the dodgy reffing in Game 3 (and the Game 1 choke, yes Lovebroker) they would've rolled into the Grand Final against an opponent they'd easily had the better of. (2-2 but look into the details of the two losses and you'll understand why the two double digit wins over Perth later in the season are a better guage of where things were at)

[You are a knob.]

My pleasure.

Here's the box score

https://basketball.realgm.com/international/boxscore/2020-03-05/Melbourne-at-Sydney/359130

27 fouls to 15.

Sometimes every foul is deserved- a lop sided count isn't necessary indicative of referees favoring one team. But rest assured that wasn't the case in this game. It was one of the more disgracefully one sided games you will see

It was a real shame, United had finally worked out the right balance, Trimble was red hot averaging 23ppg at 53% from the field over the last 7 games after being relegated to the bench (including the semi series). United's talent was finally clicking, and it would've been awesome watching them go up in a repeat of 2019 against the Perth juggernaut.

Instead we got a truncated 3 game series, ended prematurely by Sydney.

Disappointing. Such is sports. Such is life.

Complaining about Game 3 of the SF when Game 1 was the cause is like complaining about physical trauma from an accident when the motorist refuses to wear a seat belt in the first instance.

Declaring oneself as the best team because you beat the eventual Champion twice whilst also losing twice is incredibly asinine. Even more so when you consider you barely made the playoffs and couldn't keep a SF lead that the 88 SuperCats would have comfortably.

[Declaring oneself as the best team because you beat the eventual Champion twice whilst also losing twice is incredibly asinine]

Look at the details and the trend.

Saying "2-2' without further analysis is literally the level of analysis I would expect from a toddler.

Good on you anon #634, it's all fun and games

United were absolutely screwed out of game three last year. I started the game wanting the Kings to win and was supporting United by the end of it due to how blatant it was.

[Declaring oneself as the best team]

Btw, never said we were the best team, I said we were the better team in the SF series and would've felt good going up against Perth

Whether we were better than Perth or would've beaten them, I'm not suggesting that. Perth are big game Cats. Just hoping a healthy United get the opportunity this year

[United were absolutely screwed out of game three last year. I started the game wanting the Kings to win and was supporting United by the end of it due to how blatant it was.]

If you look up the game thread, many people thought it was blatantly one sided

Thats always the best test with these things- what do the neutrals think?

if it was just United people complaining, you could fairly easily dismiss it as bias. Not so.

If you look up the game thread,

If Melbourne wins game one, no way in hell does game two go down the same way it actually did.

Why does it matter who Perth beats or would have beaten whether it be Sydney or Melbourne?

Important aspect to understand is Perth won and would have won it regardless of who they faced

According to LV, going by the 2 game sample space of United beating Perth twice by 10+ points, they would have beaten Perth.

For United to make the finals they have to get through Sydney.

Putting aside that they did get, much like Perth v Melbourne we have to look at a hypothetical alternative reality. If we follow LVs method of looking at regular season, do we look at Sydney smacking Melbourne and say that Sydney win anyway?

Playoffs is different from regular season. Melbourne were more competitive than regular season, Perth was more competitive than regular season.

I'd have backed Perth to have beaten Melbourne and given their track record, given they actually did win the damn thing, there’s no leg for any United fan to stand on to think they’d have won it all.

Putting aside that Sydney beat Melbourne***

It would've been probably 60/40 in Perth's favour, given they would've had HCA

All I said was United would've felt good going in, which is undoubtedly true when you review the 4 regular season matchups

In a comp like NBL, regular season definitely matters as it illuminates the matchups of that particular year. Historical results carry less weight in a competition with significant player movement every season.

Hypotheticals are pointless

If we follow LVs method of looking at regular season, do we look at Sydney smacking Melbourne and say that Sydney win anyway?

All I said was United would've felt good going in, which is undoubtedly true when you review the 4 regular season matchups

[In that case, with a 2-2 record how did you surmise that United were going to 'feel good' especially when both teams won home and away?]

30 sec rundown of the 4 games

Game 1 in Perth- United missing CG43, Barlow, Prather/3rd import. United led for most of the game, Perth won by a point

Game 2 in Melb- United fresh off the plane after 2 games in the US, 4 days after playing in Sacramento (or whereever it was). Still missing 3rd import. Perth by 2.

Game 3 in Perth- United absolutely destroyed them. Perth scored a few late to make the score look more respectable but it was a thrashing. United by 13 and still without their 3rd import who signed soon after

Game 4 in Melb- United by 10. Shot out to a 13 point quarter time lead and never looked like losing

Based on the 4 games, a big win for United despite the 2 losses

[This is obviously ignorant to the fact that Perth destroyed Melbourne in the previous year's GF, and were improved on that year's time, while Melbourne had regressed. Perth certainly would not have feared Melbourne]

I don't agree that United had regressed

Based on the first 3/4s of the season yes, but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20

[but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20]

And again a hypothetical, but if they'd won that Game 3, they would've given Perth a real shake, no way would it have been a comfy Perth win ala 2019.

Perth beat a cooked Bogut in a swinging series that was prematurely ended by COVID. There's an asterix on that one.

And Sydney had chances to win game 1 before losing by 2, and beat Perth easily in Game 3. This was a Sydney team who were down by what, 59 against United in Game 2?

And Bogut actually did bring it in Games 1 and 2 vs Perth, but not as good in Game 3, would've struggled with his body in Games 4 and 5 I assume, given he was practically limping up the court most of last season

End of the day, luck always comes into it- Sydney had chances to win Game 1- a very very very tight GF that was literally ended early by a pandemic.

Why does it matter how you lose? You still lose

I don't agree that United had regressed

Based on the first 3/4s of the season yes, but the final iteration of United- with Ili starting, Kidd playing a role and Trimble destroying them off the bench (23ppg @53% over the last 7 games)- was better than the 2019 team, especially when CG43 had a better season in 2019/20

Just pointing out the obvious that United were unlucky last year and Perth were lucky

Perth won a GF that was ended by a virus, after United had their season ended by referees (something that outraged many neutral fans at the time)

[When people speak of whether one has improved or regressed, one would simply go to the ladder for the truth.]

And those people we would rightly call simple minded

Richmond's 3 premierships are no lesser merely because they finished 3rd or 4th on the ladder every year. Richmond has mastered the art of peaking at the right time. Something United was doing last season until the refs handed the deciding game to their opponents on a purple platter

[Richmond's 3 premierships are no lesser merely because they finished 3rd or 4th on the ladder every year.]

Not only that, but they've scraped into top 4 every year off the back of a late season winning streak. And won 3 flags doing that

Just when you thought an Adelaide loss thread couldn't get any worse...

Give it up LV, you'll live longer...

[In the GF Bogut was busted and Gleeson had Weaver measure, Kay and Cotton had the measure of Ware, Cook and Tate as well, Damo did damo stuff and Sydney did not respond. As per normal Perth win.]

Not that simple, Sydney had chances to win Game 1 from memory

Perth were a missed game winner from losing that series

End of the day, after 120 minutes of basketball 3 points separated them. Evenly matched, each team won one comfortably, and one went to the death.

Just pointing out the obvious that United were unlucky last year and Perth were lucky

Perth won a GF that was ended by a virus, after United had their season ended by referees (something that outraged many neutral fans at the time)

Of course to a degree you make your own luck.

But when the most influential performer for your opposition in a deciding playoff game isn't even a member of the opposition team, you can reasonably say you were unlucky.

And when a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic gifts you the championship without you needing to complete the series, after you won an opening game that could've gone either way, then we can reasonably say they were lucky in the circumstances of the playoffs.

The funny thing is when I think of lucky NBL titles the first thing that comes to mind is United's sole championship against the Sixers after Childress got injured.

Who won is irrelevant because both teams were lucky to be fixtured in for last night, therefore depriving United of a win.

[Dickhead LV conveniently forgets that Terrico missed one of those Melbourne wins last year.]

Perth had an injury? Wow, that's a rarity. Usually it's other teams, like this whole season

[Just like 2019, Perth had the measure of their GF opponent.]

After 120 minutes of basketball they had their opponents measure by...... 3 points.

Fair point, Perth have had their share of injuries through the years, even going back to Bevo's days where Martin and Redhage suffered injuries that disrupted entire seasons or playoff series

It's not that I want Perth to have injuries, it's that I want to be watching a full strength United, SEM, Sydney, NZ, Adelaide right now

Corny as all he'll line but...'the best ability is availability'

A couple of years ago Richmond lost Rance in round 1 and he missed the whole season. Since then I can't remember a significant injury and now they are headed towards a 3peat. Team cohesion is as important as form but depth matters more, when Rance went down Grimes stepped up.

3 seasons ago when Utd were LUCKY (lol, jokes) to play Adelaide in the final Cotton missed significant time (5 games I think) with a thumb injury, but others stepped up and I think we won 3 of the games he missed. other's stepped up and got the job done and we made the playoffs, Adelaide were just BETTER when it counts in our semi. Try saying that LV when you lose...'The other side was BETTER'.

The refs were shit in game 1 of that semi last year but I give the kings credit, they stuck with it and hung around (for the last time it seemed) and made Utd adjust which they didn't and lost. A season includes playoffs and the games are 4 quarters, Utd should learn that.

Joey Wright doesn't want to talk to Melbourne about Melbourne.

Let it go? On here? ROFL!

I am expecting someone to say "Well, Perth would not have won the 1990 title if Andrew Gaze hadn't suffered from a thrombosis!!. Not fair!"

On another note, if you EVER blame the umpires/refs/officials for your team losing a game, you are a moron. End of story. Until a team shoots 100% in a game with zero turnovers, then there is always something they could have done to change the result.

The amount of 13 year old boys trapped in the bodies of adults in here is eye watering.

[On another note, if you EVER blame the umpires/refs/officials for your team losing a game, you are a moron. End of story. Until a team shoots 100% in a game with zero turnovers, then there is always something they could have done to change the result.]

What a ridiculous thing to say

Of course there are always multiple factors at play.

But we should demand better refereeing than what occurred in that game, and improvement will happen when it's demanded.

And saying "if the reffing had been fair and reasonable, my team would have won" is NOT the same thing as saying "the referees were the only reason my team lost".

gosh, learn some nuance in the English language, and learn to walk and chew gum at the same time.

In other words, saying "United was kicked out of the playoffs by the referees" or saying "The most influential performer for the opposition were the referees" can be true simultaneously with the statement that "United could've done things better and would've won if they'd played their best game".

All three statements are true, as it happens. There's nothing inconsistent about that or difficult to understand.

You might ask why the focus on reffing, and what's the point. Well, it was one of the worst, most egregiously poorly and one sided games I've seen- so it's worth talking about- and hopefully the uproar at the time was heard by the powers that be.

[I don't necessarily agree with Gus but I will say if you blame the refs for losing a GF one year and a SF the next, while pretending your team was firing on all cylinders and ignoring all other factors, you're a moron.]

I have never blamed the refs for losing 2019

I started a thread listing the timestamps of the 9 fouls on McCarron in the 2 Perth games, to draw attention to the ridiculous home cooking

But given United was trounced at home in Game 4 (and smashed in Game 3), no one could argue Perth wasn't the deserving victor and the better team.

Totally different situation to the 2020 semis where United lost by 2 points in a game where many neutrals were disgusted by the one-sided reffing.

LV finally acknowledged Perth were the better team in 2019 series. I appreciate that.

As for 2020 semis maybe Melb were hard done by but I'm grateful we got Sydney in the final. Was more confident of getting past them.

I have never blamed the refs for losing 2019

I started a thread listing the timestamps of the 9 fouls on McCarron in the 2 Perth games,

Well those are definitely all words. Except "reff'd", I guess.