Aussie
Years ago

Basketball participation rates in WA growing rapidly

Really impressive to see:

https://basketballwa.asn.au/

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Suxxer Fan  
Years ago

So is the lack of courts for training etc. Bendat could be twice the size. Joondalup could be thrice the size. Probably the same for many of the associations. I hear of WABL teams having half a court for 30 minutes once a week. BWA would be well served to not waste the surge in participation by not providing parents and kids with bang for their bucks. I know the associations have a big part to play in this but most of them can't do it on their own due to poor resources.

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koberulz  
Years ago

You can't magic courts into existence, of course an explosion in participation is going to lead to a lack of courts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The expansion is in the works for Bendat, but that won't be for 5+ years.

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Anon  
Years ago

That Bendat expansion better include considerably better parking options and perhaps better communication between Basketball WA And Athletics WA as to what weekend's they are having their main carnivals so perhaps we can avoid further parking chaos

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rumoured further expansion in the works:

Bendat - Increase +4 to a 12 Court Stadium by 2028
Rockingham - Increase +3 to a 10 Court stadium including new 2,000 Seat Showcourt by 2029
* Also rumoured the Flames are in lengthy talks with the City of Kwinana for a possible 10 to 12 court facility out on Anketell Rd near the Motorplex, which will be part of a large sporting precinct the city has planned to be completed in stages between 2027-2029
Guaranteed 2021 upgrade or rings, backboards and Scoreboards on courts 5-8 at Warwick Stadium as promised by Labor pre-election
South West Sports Centre to add two new courts including a new Showcourt and making the old courts all FIBA compliant size wise with the view of hosting future nationals tournaments in the South West as part of promised 10 million funding from Labor pre-election.
Major 20 million dollar upgrade of Goldfields Giants stadium making it a six court stadium and possible new SBL showcourt (No word on whether the lovely folk up there will fix the visitors changeroom window. Maybe the Buccs can share the dimensions they had for the custom foam piece they take with them now to all Kal games to block said window hole and increase changeroom temperature by as much as a toasty seven degrees!

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Anon  
Years ago

Numbers in Vic are dropping by the truck load. My domestic club had 20 less teams in this season, fees have gone up massively, just a domestic game you would have paid $5-6, is now between $10-12 per player. Clubs getting rid of entry fees, and reducing staff, yet charging us more.

A massive cash grab.

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Red84  
Years ago

More $ will come to those areas which are Federal marginal seats. This factor, combined with cheap land contributed to Melbourne and its sand belt suburbs in the south east attracting govt $ for facilities compared to NSW metro.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

COVID effect on vic basketball, other states were still playing. It'll go back up over a few years.

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LC  
Years ago

Domestic numbers down in Vic, but this was the first season back after COVID lockdown. Give it another 6 months to evaluate - domestic registrations already appear to be on a large rise for the winter season in Vic set to start after school holidays.

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Suxxer Fan  
Years ago

Yep, must of just happened overnight. Not really obvious at all, except that WABL floated all or most grades of juniors having four divisions about five or six years ago. Then we watch the Wildcats as champions in 2014, 16, 17, 19 and 20. History has a habit of repeating itself. Just two obvious things that could have had basketball looking to be proactive. The timelines listed above will see court availability at a premium even when they are finished.

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Aussie  
Years ago

How are participation rates going in other states?

QLD and NSW?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It also varies depending on quality of capture. BSA used to publish participation numbers based on number of teams times x amount of players as they couldn't be bothered working out the real number.

SA Country used to greatly inflate their numbers until BA and BSA made them pay per player they claimed. Sharp drop at that point.

All comes down to the people involved in putting the data together.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hope the figures are real. Perhaps associations and clubs could look into "shared use" deals with schools. Weekend court use for ball, weekday for schools. Sort of overflow system. Kids and parents are often attracted to clubs and sports through engagement with schools anyway.

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hoopie  
Last year

A footy or soccer ground is easier to set up than a stadium, and has value once the organised games are finished for dog walking, family groups, picnics, etc. However, land is expensive, grounds are expensive to maintain, and not a lot of people are kept active during organised games.
A stadium, on the other hand, is expensive to set up, makes better use of land, keeps more people active, and can be used by the community in all weather.

I wonder how this tension between footy/soccer and basketball is going to go over the next 20 years as more girls want to play AFLW and soccer but more of both sexes want to play basketball.

Will councils and state bodies put up more stadiums because they're better use of scarce and valuable land, even if it means taking over parts of existing footy and soccer grounds? Or will the AFL use its financial power to buy up land and pressure councils and state bodies to set up footy grounds, kind of like they did in Tassie for it to get its AFL team?

Thoughts?

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McBlurter  
Last year

Factories, and already zoned industrial land can be reconfigured into indoor venues.

The likes of VickyKicky need to keep claiming green title, and it becomes more evident when they're the only ones benefitting from it.

They can only ally with cricket, and their junior numbers are dwindling.

Vicky Kicky has spent over a century antagonising soccer and the rugby codes, so it's be a difficult bridge to build.

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McBlurter  
Last year

"Rockingham - Increase +3 to a 10 Court stadium including new 2,000 Seat Showcourt by 2029"

The spend has been confirmed. $10 million in total.

it's $8 million to build a new hall, probably 3 courts, and $2 million to replace the roof and ventilation on on of the existing halls.

The design hasn't been finalised, but I presumed it was updating the current show court.

This summer will be telling when the kids come back from footy. RBRA is already spilling over into Baldivis indoor every week. Might be quicker to arrange shared facilities with the schools.

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