KET
Last month

Age article re NBL and Offshore Gambling

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/gobsmacking-national-basketball-in-league-with-illegal-betting-sites-offshore-20210325-p57e6x.html


The National Basketball League's new integrity partner, Sportradar, is producing unauthorised live data feeds of the league’s matches and supplying them to illegal offshore bookmakers.

At least nine bookmaking websites that use Sportradar’s live data appear to be in breach of Australia’s Interactive Gambling Act by accepting Australian customers without a licence and offering live online betting on sporting events.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Does this explain the erratic refereeing?

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KET  
Last month

No

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Zodiac  
Last month

Former senator Nick Xenophon, who helped to reform the Interactive Gambling Act, said the NBL was "either treating its fans as absolute mugs, or they are the biggest mugs of all to be entering into this deal".

“This is gobsmacking. The sports minister needs to look at this from an integrity point of view. This just destroys the credibility of the game. It just shows you how poor the regulatory framework is ... I think there should be a revolt amongst the membership of the NBL because, on the face of it, they have compromised the integrity of the game.”


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Anonymous  
Last month

#404 I'd be hiding you email address and IP address if I was you. If you’re insinuating 28 NBL referee’s are on the take get ready for a law suit.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Haha settle down.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why settle down? You are implying the referees are cheating. Slippery slope with sweet FA evidence. Becomes a cute civil action. Just ask Joey and Brett Hogan.

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Anonymous  
Last month

He said nothing of the sort. "Erratic refereeing" is the quote. It's another word for crap refereeing. Nothing has change since I was involved a long time ago. It's far worse than ever and this is highlighted well by the video reviews and how many calls they get wrong.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who is going to take legal action against an anonymous internet user for a silly comment?

BTW I'm not the person who asked the question.

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Anonymous  
Last month

On the back of a gambling article. Shit a decent lawyer would have a field day clown

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Anonymous  
Last month

#417 ask someone like Brendan Joyce

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Anonymous  
Last month

I just asked him. He said who are you, and how did you get this number?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Does Larry still have interest in the Russian betting agency?

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'm tipping this gets locked sooner than later

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Perthworld  
Last month

Wow, what hard hitting investigative journalism.

After legislation changed here which banned Australians from accessing overseas bookmakers most websites complied.

All that will happen is NBL will contact Sportsradar who will then inform the nine bookmakers to ban Australian IP address ranges. Chances are since these bookies are so obscure, like the one which was named, that no Australians were betting with them anyway.

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Perth fan.  
Last month

#404 has nothing to worry about.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There are no laws being broken here except for overseas bookmakers offering accounts to Australian customers and that has nothing to do with the NBL.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Exactly, it's such a fluff piece.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are you seriously going to get that better odds overseas from some obscure bookie. I doubt it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Gee concerning this is.....on a side note anyone catch that NZ Vs United game at bendigo?

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Red84  
Last month

In response to Zodiac's post

I know this is off topic and I apologize in advance.

In my opinion, Nick Xenophon has rarely spoken in support of the national interest and I would not listen to a word he says.

For instance, if not for Xenophon's stance in favour of local procurement during the Gillard and then Abbott governments, Australia would soon be taking possession of new "off the shelf" subs to meet the CCP menace. Instead - if I can put this generously - Xenophon rather distorted view of the national interest delayed the sub acquisition by at least a decade. And where did Saint Nick go after his jaunt in Parliament? Employed by the Chinese state sponsored telco - Huawei. Says it all really. When the fight comes, and it will come, Australia (again) will be hopelessly underprepared. You bring to a fight, the equipment you have on hand, and the training you have received. Thanks to Nick, we won't have the equipment, and our service personnel won't have the training.

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Anonymous  
Last month

While a lot of other sports are moving away from gambling and in particular sports betting sponsorship, its been disappointing to see the NBL shamelessly plug it at every opportunity.

Almost every pro sports club in Victoria has pledged to not have sports betting sponsorship, but the two NBL clubs wont get on board.

its not surprising to see this latest development.

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ME  
Last month

Just seems like a hit piece more than anything. Oh there's a 'scandal' everyone! The only thing that worries me is the poor crowds NBL games are getting at the moment. This offshore gaming nothing story will blow away with the wind.

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KET  
Last month

NBL would benefit a lot from the money, they aren't really in a position to be a leader in giving up gambling money

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Isaac  
Last month

Bit of a breathless piece. Isn't it ultimately the responsibility of those international sites to stay aware of gambling laws in every country they might operate?

Not the first or last time the internet exposes oddities in laws and access.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Doesn't the owner of the league own a gambling company?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Article a massive hit job, likely by a data competitor. Article is poorly researched for an investigative journalist to get one side of story. Government missing out on taxes is the concern with offshore bookmakers. Maybe government should come in and provide funding to the sports so they don't have to take any commercial revenue? Sports need to run their business - AFL, Cricket, Soccer all have deals in place that generate significant (much more than basketball) revenue from betting, most have stopped taking betting "sponsorship" but generate plenty in the background + they benefit from gambling ads on signage at games and ads that underpin their TV rights.

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Anonymous  
Last month

^Doesn't it say in the article that the NBL and BA declined to be interviewed for the story?

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Hoopie  
Last month

^ not until they've spoken to their lawyers, and we know that things can take a long time to happen in our basketball administrations

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Anonymous  
Last month

So many ppl from NBL league office and/or employed by the league on this thread...

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Anonymous  
Last month

Is there any league in the world where one person owns/ controls a majority of the teams, owns the league , employs the refs and also owned a sports betting company?

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Anonymous  
Last month

And uses nbl teams as leverage for his property developments?

See Tasmania

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Perthworld  
Last month

Which sports betting company does he own?

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rjd  
Last month

Twitch chat during games seems to be full of overseas gamblers. Isn't it the responsibility of the overseas betting agencies to not accept Australian customers?

It's hard to take Xenophon seriously now given his post-politics career choices.

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KET  
Last month

I'm not saying it’s a big issue because it probably isn’t and I don’t know what the circumstances or law is regarding this and don’t care because I don’t understand how it works. Is it what, helping gambling businesses overseas screw their clients? Gambling 101 anyway right?

But the proposition people are putting here goes something like "overseas business does the wrong thing that’s overseas business problem" but that’s not how it works - can’t wash all responsibility like that, that’s certainly not grounded in law. There are most certainly mechanisms to enforce obligations on Australian companies.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"But the proposition people are putting here goes something like "overseas business does the wrong thing that's overseas business problem" but that’s not how it works - can’t wash all responsibility like that, that’s certainly not grounded in law. There are most certainly mechanisms to enforce obligations on Australian companies."

My read of it is that the NBL is making their data available to offshore betting companies (via the intermediary Sportradar, as described in the article) to allow for live betting on games to be offered. This isn't against the law. Australian bookmakers offer live betting on NBL, and a whole bunch of other sports (including the major Aussie ones like AFL).

There is a rule against overseas betting companies offering betting accounts to Australian customers (as someone else pointed out, this is partly because Australian Govt. misses out on the tax revenue, although they'll tell you its to protect punters from "dangerous" offshore bookmakers). This isn't something the NBL has control over.

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