Jack Toft
Years ago

Phoenix v Breakers Apr 4

Seems the Phoenix know how to rise again. They're sitting in a solid third position and should be fairly confident about getting this one against the Breakers.

The Creeksters took care of business last time they met and despite Jacinda sending her best wishes, even Joe Wheeler would say the Phoenix are "leally impressive"

No need to hide the eggs, SEM should get the choices this game

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Mystro  
Years ago

Breakers have struggled with SE Melbournes pace in their previous games.

C.Web is back and WMW is suiting up for his first game as a Breaker and while Levi Randolph is out of Quarantine and has trained he won't be suiting up for this one.

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-1.5 favourites seems a bit to good to be true......
Just Broekoff breakbout game? Or an absolute weapon moving forward. Is creek back playing too?

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-1.5 favourites seems a bit to good to be true......
Just Broekoff breakbout game? Or an absolute weapon moving forward. Is creek back playing too?

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Apologies for the double post

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looking forward to see the hyped up WMW play, is passing should suit the nz bigs. SEM certainly favourites but nz have a little spring in there step. Broekhoff to be the difference, SEM by 11.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Breakers defence has been really good recently. If they can control the tempo and Iverson stays out of foul trouble, it will be interesting if SEM can contain the Webster bros and WMW on the on-ball. They may have to go to a zone and that may be a good bet given the Breakers haven't shot the 3 ball consistently well this year.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Broekhoff producing the form many expect from him.
SEM by 6

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Perthworld  
Years ago

-1.5 favourites seems a bit to good to be true......

Not sure what you're looking at as the line is between -4.5 and -5.5.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Does anyone know what Breakers and/or Boomers fans could expect from WMW? Will he be Deng Adel 2.0 or is he going to show some serious game?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A shame Randolph isn't playing. Based on where he’s played and the numbers he has put up, he is better than Paul and Hopson. But could be a bad fit at the Breakers who are deep at the 2-3 and as shallow as a car park puddle at the 4-5.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

creeky on the bench again.

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STHEaster  
Years ago

Another fairly ordinary Phoenix crowd. Is it the AFL affect or has the club just not captured the 'hearts and minds'?

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Overlapping with AFL isn't ideal.
Having cheap cup games meant Melbourne based fans got their fix.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Creek with the 3 before quarter time.

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Lovebroker  
Years ago

That was an awful foul call on Webster.

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Scout  
Years ago

great call from Gaze

Coaches should be careful on criticising other coaches carrying on like a pork chop they share that around a fair bit!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As the season has gone on and Iverson has found his hands, my god he is an old school beast rarely sighted.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SEM are a different team with Broekhoff.

I feel like the Breakers need a really good PF.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Creek up to 15 points.
Iverson on track to break 40min rebound record (since reintroducing 40min games 2009).

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mitchrulz  
Years ago

Breakers have done well to still be in touch but they're no match for Mitch. Mitch is too much.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Creek with an Offensive foul.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Creek just smashed into the helpless defender. "In your face" he was heard to yell at the time.

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mitchrulz  
Years ago

Creek just led his team to victory over a very competitive Breakers team
Iverson excellent but Creek even excellenter

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That was a very borderline lane violation on the Creek FT. It's like that guy can do nothing wrong in the eyes of this league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The league loves Creek.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Iverson with most rebounds in Breakers history and NBL 40 minute era, and first person to have back to back 20-20 game since Mark Bradtke. But Wetzell gets player of the game!? Who decides these things?

Breakers lost the game when WMW came on for Tai. He had a costly turnover and lost Adnam twice (even though he missed the first). But he'll get better. Breakers look much better with him and Corey Webster sharing the load with Tai in the backcourt.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

No disrespect to Creek but Iverson was in beast mode today.

Not even Mooney can get those numbers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We should definitely hod Creek up as an example of leadership, or otherwise he might repeatedly punch us in the face.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another close breakers loss. There's been so many this season.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

As for Wetzell getting player of the game I would have picked Iverson for sure despite his team losing.

Creeky was great off the bench. Te Rangi was rubbish.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Iverson was player of the game, the NBL just hates the Breakers.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

You could see NZ don't have the depth to compete. Iverson was lucky to finish the game was clearly struggling to run towards the end.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The NBL doesn't hate the Breakers, they just have this thing where the POTG has to go to someone on the winning team. Now they cant give it to Creek so they give it to their next best player, despite being outplayed by his direct match up.

An absolute farce.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rob Loe walking out on the team really screwed the Breakers this season.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

Spot on anon 852.

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Mystro  
Years ago

Great performance from NZ despite losing.
Corey Webster will be better with a game under his belt as will WMW and I can't wait to see the new import.

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Hopscotch 55  
Years ago

Hard not to think the top 4 we have now is going to be the one with us at the end.. albeit perhaps in an order yet to be determined: Wildcats, United, Kings, Phoenix

So much potential in the other teams, but not enough legs in the season remaining, and too far behind to get it worked out in their favour.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Wildcats, United, Kings, Phoenix"

The dream final 4 for the NBL. This is exactly what they want.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think the league would like Sixers in the finals.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Loe has his reasons. I don't want to be in his position. But him pulling out did affect the balance of the team. Having said that though, the bigger issue with this team was the way Patterson turned up. For him to turn up in that shape, get injured and then want out really screwed up the team. I think they’ll be competitive from here but they will miss the playoffs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

One can see why SEM and NBL want Creek to play. SEM is nothing without him.

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Bigdog  
Years ago

Breakers have some serious roster construction issues

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STHEaster  
Years ago

1850 people there today.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Breakers have some serious roster construction issues"

Yes, and they could have fixed this by signing a forward to replace Loe, but they signed another guard instead. Makes no sense.

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Bolt  
Years ago

Will be interesting to see if the league pursues legal options this week to stop Creek from playing further until his hearing. Certainly sounds like that's their preference.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Phoenix are the red headed stepchild of Melbourne. No one cares, especially with someone who allegedly beats up women on the roster as the marquee

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Anonymous  
Years ago

From a legal standpoint - suspending someone isn't exactly an option.

It’s an all or nothing approach under Australian law.
He has the legal right to work whilst the case is pending in the courts.
The only other option is to terminate his contract - which you can’t really do whilst the outcome isn’t known.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What did everyone think of WMW in the limited minutes he had? He nearly broke Broekhoff's ankles, had an impressive block on Adnam, but otherwise wasn’t much of a factor.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

877 I thought it was an okay debut, from what I saw he guarded decently but was a bit disjointed with the play at times (expected after only a few trainings).

He looks promising, as a breakers fan I saw good glimpses from him. I don't think he will be what Broekhoff is to the Phoenix or Humphries is to the Sixers. But I do think he will be a strong addition he looks like he wants to play which is a good sign.

Also Broekhoff is a shooting machine, why is he not starting for the Phoenix.

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Perth fan.  
Years ago

The question is why is Te Rangi starting?

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STHEaster  
Years ago

@Bolt, what gives you that's the leagues preference?

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Bolt  
Years ago

There was a report on the perthow website that strongly implied that was their preference. Not sure if Olgun was allowing his personal feelings to dictate his reporting - or whether he's acting on behalf of the league - but he certainly wasn’t supportive of his reinstatement either which is surprising.

Personally, it didn’t feel great watching him play on the weekend. It’s an ugly situation for all.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

"From a legal standpoint - suspending someone isn't exactly an option."

The National Rugby League has a so-called "no-blame" policy. It requires players charged with a serious criminal offence to be stood down (not play) until such time as the charge has been through the courts and the player either has been acquitted or has served his sentence (if found guilty). That policy was tested in the Federal Court and was upheld (https://www.zerotackle.com/breaking-de-belin-federal-court-ruling-handed-down-44150/).

So, from a legal standpoint, it's possible to establish contracts that permit someone to be suspended in a circumstance such as Creek's. The NBL would just need to have adopted a rule or policy such as the NRL's, or SEM Phoenix have included a suitable clause in player contracts.

The NRL adopted its policy 2 years ago (March 2019). Overseas professional sporting leagues/teams have had even stricter policies in relation to domestic violence for a lot longer (e.g., Kareem Hunt and Ezekiel Elliott cases in the USA's NFL). With such high profile precedents, either NBL decided it wasn't necessary/appropriate, or they weren't paying attention. My tip is the latter - that's more consistent with the league's reactive approach to policies and rule making over the past 5 years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm all for innocent until proven guilty and the right for employees to continue to earn a living, but you’re right it was awkward. In NZ the commentary team discussed that it was really surprising he was playing given the seriousness of the allegations and everyone was trying to not talk about him too much even though his efforts probably won the game for SEM.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nice information Peter-John, thanks, I agree it's probably the latter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ and that's what I meant from a legal standpoint. The NBL does not have such clauses in their contracts, so from a legal standpoint, they can’t enforce a suspension. I’m not even 100% certain that the AFL has these policies standardised in player contracts.

The NRL only did this because of the amount of players falling under this umbrella, so they had to.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#914 exactly on all accounts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Crowd 1850. How long can this franchise last?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks have been around for years with those crowd numbers.

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