Anonymous
Last year

Deng Adel released by the Hawks




Olgun:
This was the best outcome for both parties. This NBL stint was only hurting Adel's career; sure, a marquee local getting cut is unprecedented but his value was just getting worse and worse. For the Hawks, Adel was consistently a net negative on both ends so they don’t lose much.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Good riddance over hyped turd.

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Anonymous  
Last year

no need for a personal attack just because he didn't play as well as you hoped.

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Anonymous  
Last year

What local could they get quickly.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If they could get maker for 10 games...

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Anonymous  
Last year

How much $ was Adel on as a marquee player?

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Anonymous  
Last year

A lot.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Harvey
Jessup
Simon
Maker
Froling

Naar
White
Grida
Deng
Ogilvy

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Anonymous  
Last year

Crap attitude the day he turned up.

Bairstow another rubbish signing so the Hawks will be very very short handed.

I wouldn't be surprised if they sign no one as Gorg has lost the players anyway.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Maker will be as bad as Adel, some people never learn.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No way, maker would be great.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Coenrad out of retirement

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Anonymous  
Last year

Marquee, probably on 500k plus. Good out come for the Hawks, could another nbl club pick him up?.

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Anonymous  
Last year

They don't need a sf with Simon and grida, they need a stud 4

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Zodiac  
Last year

Goorjian should be COTY with that crap roster having a them a touch under .500

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Anonymous  
Last year

Gleeson only has cotton n Mooney, they lost Martin Terrico plumlee

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Anonymous  
Last year

What are you basing your opinion on Maker being great, the same media that told us how great Adel was and would clean up nbl. You should actually try and watch a few games. Also Maker has not played in 18 months.

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Zodiac  
Last year

Also Maker has not played in 18 months.


3 months.

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Anonymous  
Last year

He wasn't any good? Bad attitude? Club needs to take equal responsibility from a recruitment point of view. Bad luck.

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Goorjian should be COTY with that crap roster having a them a touch under .500"

You can't be serious? Three imports, a returning NBA player, a decent Aussie veteran big and an up and coming big, and he's done nothing with them.

It's time we started calling Goorjian out for being completely overrated.

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Isaac  
Last year

Which Maker? Thon suited for Cleveland earlier this year. Last played in the NBA in mid-Jan.

Matur?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Its up to the player to actually care and have a decent go.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Overhyped, fraudulent and lazy.

Goodbye.

It would be interesting to find out who exactly at the Hawks was behind signing him in the first place. Shocking mismanagement.

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Macca  
Last year

Making way for Gelo ??

https://youtu.be/Ji8mMGN2TwQ

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Anonymous  
Last year

Lock up everything or it might go missing.

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Zodiac  
Last year

You can't be serious? Three imports, a returning NBA player, a decent Aussie veteran big and an up and coming big, and he's done nothing with them.

It's time we started calling Goorjian out for being completely overrated.


Dead serious their roster is disgusting, I said that before the season started and why I had the Hawks finishing bottom. This is arguably the greatest coaching performance of Goorjian's career to have this Hawks team 5th at 12-14.

Deng Adel turned out to be a disastrous signing, as some on here predicted, Bairstow was always going to be a bad signing we saw that mistake by the Bullets. Soft as butter and injury prone. Two cheap G-League imports with major deficiencies in their games and local players that would make the Taipans blush. Jessup turned out well.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Crazy.
The first time in NBL history the hawks paid more for players and coaches then their "big brothers" Sydney.
Been very underwhelming.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Who gives a toss about the kings.

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Thanks  
Last year

Goorjian newds the overwhelming best roster in the league and a boring grind it out gameplan to be successful

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Anonymous  
Last year

Cooks is available at seasons end, Kay as well, marquee money can get you a good player.

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Bolt  
Last year

The Hawks have not spent more than Sydney.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes they have. By a considerable margin.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Must be the CEO to know how much they spent or just a s. T talker

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Zodiac  
Last year

It wouldn't surprise me if the Hawks have spent more than the Kings. Most of the Kings players were already under contract thus they're taking 50% pay cuts, the new signings were Martin who was playing for peanuts in the G-League, Vasiljevic who wasn't getting paid at all in college and Glover a benchie from the Hawks.

It was rumoured that Deng Adel signed with the Hawks on pretty big money and none of the Hawks players were previously under contract.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sydney spent half a mill more.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sydney total budget compared to hawks.

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Curtley  
Last year

Chances to play in Tokyo just took a dive

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Anonymous  
Last year

Please take Cooks. Another over rated player.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Santamaria tweeting kings should take him, lol, he's still believing in the hype, I suppose he’s part of the reason for the hype. Forde to smart to bring him in.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The boomers list can be cut down significantly.
Can take out 5 guys right now.

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Sydney spent half a mill more." If they did someone should be sacked.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Only 5.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Another over hyped bum!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Adel shows that his game is built for G-League adn NBA style of game but in a more FIBA style of basketball he doesn't have the fundamentals or game smarts to effect winning and simply isn't good enough!


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Anonymous  
Last year

The worst best player i know

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Senator11  
Last year

Apparently Will Magnay is in quarantine, few teams would be chasing that right now.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anyone calling Gorgi overrated speaks volumes to how stupid he or she is. Typical don't know the first thing about basketball never played anywhere domestic leagues don’t count hahahahhaah

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Anonymous  
Last year

No heart or discipline....gee that's a surprise.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anyone calling Goorjian Gorji is even stupider.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think even the most one eyed Gorjian fan has to admit that the coaching has caught up to him since he has been away.

The answers to some of the problems presented by other teams this year, just haven't been there, and although the Hawks locals aren't the best, he does have one of the best scorers the league has seen in a while. Imagine what other coaches would do with Harvey?

For me how he goes with the Boomers will be the litmus test. If it's the same, grind, grind, grind at one end, with only the amoeba to change things up in the half court and the 4 out 1 in - cut opposite corner stuff that clearly lacks the variation other teams have available to them, then we're in real trouble.

Here's hoping that he's got a LOT more in the bag for the big kids, but I'm worried that he's looking starting to look a little fossilised.

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Bolt  
Last year

I'm pretty comfortable in my source. I also know that what the Hawks spent THIS year would have put them at sixth highest spend for last season.

You have to understand that all of the GMs know each other’s spend.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Goorjo reminds me of my grandpa was young once but alas now is old.

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LoveBroker  
Last year

Goorj is doing OK in my view.

He has gotten more out of Froling, AJ, and utlised Harvey and JJ well.

Grida is also picking up where he left off, with Naar serviceable.

The downsides are the injuries to Deng, Bear and Adel's disappearing act.

Adel probably came into the team expecting to be the focal point and spiralled downwards when it became clear he is behind Harvey, JJ, Froling, Simon .

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AngusH  
Last year

Also think Goorj is doing ok. Team has some talent and he's gotten a lot out of some of the supporting pieces, but roster a bit unbalanced also and the imports are a bit more one-way than Goorj would probably like.

Adel worth another shot I feel, unless there is an attitude issue, which I haven't heard outside of this thread. Cairns should snap him up and put him at the 4 spot and see what happens.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Goorjian chose the imports.

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PlaymakerMo  
Last year

Illawarra have had the worst offense (107.3 ORTG) and third best defense (108.9 DRTG) this season.

Chalk up some of the offensive deficiencies to talent, but this might support the notion that Goorjian's philosophy hasn't evolved THAT much over recent years.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Some punters on here don't have a clue,
Perth keep winning championships because they play DEFENCE, Goorj has got to get that right first, good offence flows from good D.
Harvey needs a lot of ball and is a bit of a one out player, hasn’t helped even though he has been good, at least he shoots at a good percentage and plays ok D.
Adel has done nothing at either end, Bairstow is injury prone as usual have been there two big mistakes for money invested. Is this on management or the coach or both.
The rest of the locals have improved there games significantly, an example is that Naar actually plays reasonable D now. AJ has had his best year in seasons, Froling, Deng both on the up.
Jessup and Simon have been ok to good.
They are still a chance of finals which would be remarkable.
The nbl, fiba competitions and European basketball is not like the nba, as proved in the last World Cup, USA second, third string side could not get it done.
Goorj will be fine, just hope politics doesn’t get in the way of selections as it looks like in the forty man squad.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Interesting stat which makes sense - Goorjian is the father of sludgeball in the NBL after all.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The level of knowledge that people think they know how much teams spend on their rosters from so called reliable sources is astonishing
No GM or anyone close to that information would let it leak out,that's why none of the players salaries have been made public for salary cap reasons

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Bolt  
Last year

Glad you're astonished. I was going for flabbergasted, but I’ll sleep well all the same knowing it’s got you riled up.

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koberulz  
Last year

Some punters on here don't have a clue,
Perth keep winning championships because they play DEFENCE, Goorj has got to get that right first, good offence flows from good D.
I like that you posted this in response to someone pointing out they have the third-best defence in the league, but their offence is terrible.

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Anonymous  
Last year

It doesn't rile me up, it’s just a laugh that you think you have inside knowledge

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Anonymous  
Last year

When the two players you sign as marquees fail you, I'd say your offence failed for that reason. Adel never showed up and Bairstow only play spasmodically due to injuries.
Defence still wins premierships.

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Bolt  
Last year

I don't think anything. I’m mates with a GM at one of the clubs. Believe it or not, they have friends, and we discuss stuff.

After all, it’s not like anyone gives a shit about it other than the people on these forums.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think Goorj has done OK. The Hawks are better than I expected. And I think everyone, including the Hawks, expected much, much more from Adel. At the same time, the quality of coaches and players are probably much better than Goorjian's last stint and league parity is probably much better.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bolt said "I don't think anything. I'm mates with a GM at one of the clubs. Believe it or not, they have friends, and we discuss stuff."
Pretty sure mate that when it comes t the crunch about what GM's talk about you aren't included. If you are then your GM mate needs sacking.

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KET  
Last year

Why are you replying to someone whose sole purpose is to troll

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bolt is indeed a troll.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I wouldn't write off Goorjian yet. Remember when the Hawks got off to a flying 4-0 start? Deng Adel was injured for those games. This will be addition by subtraction and you can expect the Hawks form to pick up again.

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Jick  
Last year

People saying Bairstow is soft as butter!?!? This is absurd.

Bairstow is a high-skill player with superb touch around the rim. He's an asset to any franchise lucky enough to have him.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Bairstow is not soft, just injured a lot. Adel has been bad, hasn't contributed to the hawks at all, so no loss.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Imagine if Illawarra got Dech and Blanchfield instead of Adel and Bairstow and got an import 4 instead of Simon

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Perth fan.  
Last year

Lucky Hawks then hey Jick.

Hoping Adel's departure and Magnay's supposed quarantine are just a coincidence.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hawks would have needed him in quarantine three days earlier than he was rumoured to have arrived in order to make him qualify

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RobT  
Last year

re: "Hoping Adel's departure and Magnay's supposed quarantine are just a coincidence."

Would help Magnay's Boomers' ambitions if under Goorjian at the Hawks.

And, having Magnay with Froling and Ogilvy would help Goorjian's NBL ambitions, no-end.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hawks tweeted last night that Bairstow and Adel out tonight due to injury.

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Senator11  
Last year

"Hawks tweeted last night that Bairstow and Adel out tonight due to injury."

I saw that too, maybe they have no chance of Magnay so holding Adel?

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1969  
Last year

Adel is now gone

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Anonymous  
Last year

Going to Perth I'm hearing.

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