Jack Toft
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MEL v SYD May 2

If it's Sunday afternoon, it must be a Melbourne home game. It's 1 v 3 in the capital city Shakedown.

So far it's 1 all in the series and this will be a cracker. I need to ask a Cats fan how many wins Melbourne have won in a row now. Sydney have 4 and could run out of fingers, unless you're from Sunbury and have the extra one.

Melbourne do very well at hoe and have only lost 2 home games so far this season. They definitely deserve my kiss of death today

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Anonymous  
Last week

I love a good Hoe.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Melbourne at home.
Think they will win.

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Luuuc  
Last week

I need to ask a Cats fan how many wins Melbourne have won in a row now.

Zero.

Oh wait ... sorry, you meant games. My bad! (As a Cats fan I've been conditioned to thinking in terms of titles) :p

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Anonymous  
Last week

Newley out. I don't think kings have enough players left to mount a serious challenge. Should still be reasonable game though.

United by eleven.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Melbourne do very well at home

Thats because they never leave Victoria.

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Bolt  
Last week

Didn't realise Melbourne were playing all of their triple header at home this weekend. Pretty ordinary from league headquarters for mine.

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Anonymous  
Last week

They've left Victoria once in the past three months.

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Perthworld  
Last week

When do they play their away games or do these not apply to United any longer?

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Was wondering that too.

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Anonymous  
Last week

A bit like Perth they don't go to NZ either

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Anonymous  
Last week

They'll play them towards the end of the season but they have no arduous road trips or back to backs.

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Anonymous  
Last week

"A bit like Perth they don't go to NZ either"

Perth has played their two away games against the Breakers. That's a bit different than a three month stint at home.

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TB  
Last week

Melbourne play Cairns, Illawarra, Sydney and Perth twice in the last 5 rounds.

By seasons end they will have played 26 games at John Cain arena and 2 in Bendigo. So 28 games in Victoria.

They have (until now) travelled twice since March 14 when the cup ended.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

28 out of 36 lol.
That's good at least they get 8 games out of Victoria.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Melbourne getting favourable scheduling again?

#expecttheexpected

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Perth fan.  
Last week

The no Landale card might be played if Sydney win this game.

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Nix31  
Last week

This is the 50th game of NBL in Melbourne in 70 days since the NBL hub commenced.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I hope other clubs have made enquires with the league about United basically playing the entire season at home. It's an absolute joke. If I was an owner of another club I would not be happy. It’s hard enough to compete when they have a significantly bigger budget...this makes it nearly impossible.

Anyway, get up Sydney.

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TB  
Last week

Hmmm, good idea. Can complain to the United owner and the league boss at the same time and save some money...its the same phone number

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Anonymous  
Last week

^It's corrupt.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Refs keeping sure Melbourne stay in front.

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Zodiac  
Last week

Can complain to the United owner and the league boss at the same time and save some money...its the same phone number


Joey doesn't want to talk to Melbourne about Melbourne.

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Anonymous  
Last week

It's hard being a ref, just wish they call the same at both ends. Vickerman yells more than Gleeson.

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KET  
Last week

People need to stop sooking about the NBL Cup being in Melbourne because that's what it is amounting to.

If we want to talk corrupt Victorian-centric administration, go complain to the A(V)FL.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Vickerman is by far the worst coach for yelling. Can hear him constantly. Must be irritating even for his own players...

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Anonymous  
Last week

"People need to stop sooking about the NBL Cup being in Melbourne because that's what it is amounting to."

No. The NBL cup ended weeks ago and they still have barely left Melbourne since. No excuse for it.

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KET  
Last week

" No. The NBL cup ended weeks ago and they still have barely left Melbourne since. No excuse for it."

Why does it matter if they end up playing 14 away games?

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Anonymous  
Last week

some of their "away" games were also in Melbourne against the Breakers. Lol

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Anonymous  
Last week

They should at least have to travel to NZ sine they played their "away" games against the breakers at home, but of course they don't.

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KET  
Last week

Because it's the NBLs fault that NZ hasn’t been viable as a home base?

Not a bone in my body likes Melbourne United, but these arguments are simply sooking for the sake of sooking.

There’s nothing wrong with Melbourne being a base for NZ for a period or NBL Cup, given the arenas and government assistance it probably made the most sense. Given that it made so much sense it’s hard to be critical.

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Scout  
Last week

Forde is doing a good job, now is the time to focus on coaching not the calls.

United getting some home cooking but that is to be expected

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Anonymous  
Last week

"Because it's the NBLs fault that NZ hasn't been viable as a home base?"

Did I say that? No. I simply said that in fairness united should have to travel to NZ because they played them at home and it was called a United away game (which it obviously wasn’t).

I’m done here. Some will never acknowledge that United are favoured by the league.

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KET  
Last week

Travel to NZ with what fixture mate?
Point me to the fixture where Melbourne plays NZ again?

Gotta love a backseat driver without consideration for concepts such as logistics.

And what the previous games where Melbourne members don't get access to their seats because it isn’t a United home game? Were they only to get access to 12 of the 14 games they paid for?

What you’re actually asking is for the NBL to go out of their way, logistically and financially for the sheer purpose of making life harder for United during a pandemic where logistics and financial aspect are the most important things?

How entitled are you? Get over yourself!

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Anonymous  
Last week

Quality game

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Anonymous  
Last week

The issue is because it isn't a balanced schedule. Teams don’t play everyone 4 times like in years past. They play some teams 4 times and others 5 times. United are playing both the Phoenix and NZ 5 times, so they can benefit by playing their away games against the Phoenix and NZ in their home state.

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Anonymous  
Last week

United was on the road for most of their games at the start of the season, so yeah they have fewer away games later in the season. That's how it works actually.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

All finals to be played in Melbourne:) no road games.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Home court for ever followed by home cooking.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

It's only logical.
Say it's a Melb v Perth final it should be HH and if required H again for Melbourne. Save $$ on airfares.

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KET  
Last week

Which makes obvious financial and logistical sense - people aren't targeting Phoenix about it they’re targeting LK as if he has this grand scheme to spend like $30 million to give his team advantage.

If he wanted to do that he could have just outspent Perth, Sydney, Brisbane’s of past and present. Then all we would hear from those fans is how they’re radically outspending everyone else without a sense of irony felt by Adelaide, Brisbane, Cairns, Hawks fans about hearing rich clubs bitch about richer clubs.

There’s nothing more aggravating than entitled clubs bitching about entitlement.

Those of us whom don’t have a grand aura about ourselves and our club, we can see things a little more clearly and have more understanding than a blanket "owner of NBL club buys league and spends millions to screw Perth and Sydney".

If he wanted to do that, he’d have the money to do it without propping the entire league up.

As the decision is make purely by LK without any thought of any other factors and as if there’s a grand conspiracy, and not a whole host of employees who are just doing what is logistically optimal in an obvious challenge of a year.

What’s next conspiracy theorists, global warming is a hoax, twin towers was a gov conspiracy, moon landing was faked?

The world is flat?!

United and Phoenix played NZ in Melbourne - let’s upend everything in order to correct it to satisfy the criticisms of local hoops conspiracy theorists.

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Perthworld  
Last week

If SEM quality for the playoffs in 4th spot MEL will avoid further travel.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Breakers could have been back in NZ a lot earlier than their first home game is scheduled, well in time for the last United game..... and also the schedule has only recently been confirmed for rest of season. It's not about making things harder for United, in this case it’s about giving something to the breakers who have had zero home games and have been on the road for months.

There’s no need to be so aggressive.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Bigger flogs in Australian basketball than Kickert?

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KET  
Last week

" Breakers could have been back in NZ a lot earlier than their first home game is scheduled, well in time for the last United game"

United home game - who pays back the United members for depriving them of a game they paid for?

NBL can't be moving everything at the drop of a dime the moment a bubble with NZ opens, that’s not strategically viable.

It’s not even the same as dealing with state border closures which is also very tough strategically.

It’s more important that the NBL operates properly on risk factors then it is to appease fans feeling screwed that the NBL doesn’t upend everything.

I’m glad the NBL is operating like a good administration should in planning, redundancies, considering risk factors - it’s the best way of not screwing things up like past administrations.

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Bolt  
Last week

Has issues with his temper does Daniel. Just trying to think where we've seen it cost his team previously...

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Anonymous  
Last week

Kings got go to nz and play twice, then fly to Perth. Brisbane had to do a five day quarantine. That's all ok United did go to Bendigo twice.

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KET  
Last week

"Covid sucks"

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Anonymous  
Last week

It was a good game, Sydney ran out troops. It would be nice if Martin could show a bit other Santamaria hype. Casper has had a good season, Moller the same, double, double today, if Newley and Cooks could get back and they make finals they could trouble sides. Forde has settled down nicely for first year coach.
Melbourne just got so much depth, Perth even with magnay will battle to beat them.

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KarryLestelman  
Last week

You all complain too much about my league.

I make basketball great again. MBGA

Basketball nothing without me.
All you say thank you.

Ps Melb is best!!!

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Approximately 153km from Melbourne to Bendigo.
That is one hell of a distance , nearly 2hr drive.

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KET  
Last week

And no McGowan to close border....

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Perth fan.  
Last week

If United don't win the title this year it will be humiliating for them.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Perth Fan, you won a title with a COVID * this regular season isn't even completed and you’re crying like a bitch. No wonder everyone hates Perth.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Plus, minus can be dodgy at times as a stat but Kickett at minus 32 is some sort of bad.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Not crying at all but Melbourne deserve an asterisk too.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Bigger flogs in Australian basketball than Kickert?

Do the Webster brothers count?

Pinder. Froling. Wagstaff.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Gleeson is a flog and a shit coach apparently.

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Perth fan.  
Last week

Tai Webster and his "flexing reminds me of Shannon Shorter.

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Anonymous  
Last week

People hate Perth because they win, not because some random fan on the internet says something you don't agree with.

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Last week

Tai Webster embarrassed himself last night carrying on like a pork chop after he blocked Cotton. Learn your place in the league mate, you can start talking trash when youve actually done something.

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FSTOS  
Last week

It was a particularly spectacular play on a superstar of the NBL. Great to see a bit of personal expression in the game. I am not a huge fan of either Webster but I enjoyed what he did last night.

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Anonymous  
Last week

There goes Dean and his Hey !!! Hey!!!! Hey hey heyyyyyy all game. He's become a joke really Hey !!!! The refs are bad true but he’s saying hey!!! On every call Hey Hey Hey hey!!! Hahahahhaha she could make a hit record "Hey"

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hunter should have got more time than Kickett, Vadonovic, Martin, and Hutchinson struggled on D. Kings just need a few bodies back.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Jla sets every screen illegally, screens are a major part basketball, you are supposed to have feet around shoulder width, Jla has them a metre apart.

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Anonymous  
Last week

He's 7'1", his shoulders are a meter apart

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Anonymous  
Last week

#233 better get to your optometrist. Lol. I agree with the other bloke, his screens are illegal.

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Anonymous  
Last week

You both might want to consult the rule book and check out the cylinder section and illustrations

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koberulz  
Last week

"Shoulder width" was abolished in the most recent rule update, I believe.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Art 33 Diagram 5

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Anonymous  
Last week

The NBL cracked down on illegal screens 2-3 years ago, let it slip last year, and this season it's a free-for-all. I would love to hear why there has been such a change.

It's the same with hands on the ball-handler, which is now largely ignored in the NBL. Same McDaniel had a permanent armbar on Casper Ware in the second half of this game and wasn't whistled once. FIBA clarified the offensive cylinder in the off-season, it should be easier to officiate.

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Anonymous  
Last week

There is a difference between an armbar and a hand check

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Anonymous  
Last week

Exactly, the cylinder, refs got a tough job but got on to screeners who's foot width is far outside their shoulders, JLA is the worst. Barlow sets good and fair screens, others do, clamp down on the illegals.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Cylinder principle
The cylinder principle is defined as the space within an imaginary cylinder occupied by a player on the floor. It includes the space above the player and is limited to:
• The front by the palms of the hands,
• The rear by the buttocks, and
• The sides by the outer edge of the arms and legs.
The hands and arms may be extended in front of the torso no further than the position of the feet, with the arms bent at the elbows so that the forearms and hands are raised. The distance between his feet will vary according to his height.

Nowhere are shoulders mentioned.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I'm surprised no player trying to bust through a screen where the screener has overly wide stance hasn’t stood on the screeners ankle, now that could cause injuries both ways.

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Anonymous  
Last week

#285 heck must be USF then

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