Jack Toft
Last month

SF Game 1: Perth vs Illawarra

Finals actions starts tonight in the west. Gee it seems a foregone conclusion that the Cats will be there come finals time, but Illawarra are back and it seems they have a point to prove.

It's the most defensive team vs the 2nd most defensive team so expect a tight game. No Cotton for the Cats so they'll have to find another way and find another hero. They enter Thunderdome losing their last two games, the Hawks dropped their last game.

The Cats carry historical form and Trevor G will be cracking his fingers like a gangster going into a fight (assuming he doesn't use Anom), but he has a worthy adversary in The Gorj who has a perfect record of finals appearances.

This will be a cracker and the Cats should just do enough to get a W

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LV  
Last month

81-79 the other night

I'd expect 2 (or 3) games like that. Relatively low scoring, and close.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The other night, Perth were dealing with the morale-lowering news of Cotton, illness and injury to Norton, and both Blanchfield and Travers were ill and required covid tests and isolation. Not sure what the scoreline will be but I don't see it being as close. Perth to win.

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AngusH  
Last month

Yeah, low scoring and ugly is my guess. Wildcats to get the win.

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Another Anon  
Last month

Wildcats system vs the flair of Harvey and Jessup.
Great when two opposing styles go against each other.
Cats in a close one.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think the hawks will be primed, I'm going the upset, hawks by 3.

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Luuuc  
Last month

I'm expecting a close one.
Will be interesting to see how well the Cats can generate good looks under finals-level defensive intensity. Travers & Steindl need to stay aggressive to take some load off Norton & Blanchfield.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth has no chance without cotton. Not enough offensive out put to beat the Hawks in this series

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Senator11  
Last month

I think it will come down to whether or not Norton gets into foul trouble, he needs to be out there to defend Harvey at the final siren. Our odds go way down if he's not there to close out the game on the defensive end.

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Hoopie  
Last month

I seem to be in the minority - I reckon Perth will be in control for most of the game and will win fairly comfortably

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Senator11  
Last month

"I seem to be in the minority - I reckon Perth will be in control for most of the game and will win fairly comfortably"

I see them comfortably leading for the game, but getting close at the final stages.

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Curtley  
Last month

Am I the only one surprised hawks are paying 17:1 to win it all when they're gonna play Perth without cotton and if they win, would possibly play the whole GF series at Wollongong?

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ME  
Last month

I think perth win the series and this game.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Isaac may need to purchase additional bandwidth for the site if they don't.

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woody  
Last month

Olgun Uluc who's basketball knowledge does not even go back a decade has predicted 2-0 Hawks sweep. Good one bro.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

Cotton's loss is not just the 23ppg.

Blanchfield and Mooney are better because of Cotton's gravity and IQ to pass the ball when they are in a better position to score.

Without Cotton I expect Norton's, Blanchfields, Steindl's, Mooney's efficiency to drop, which will be where the Hawks will catch up.

Norton / Travers / White has to be one of the worst backcourts in the league, even Cairns has a better backcourt.

The Advantage Perth has is home court and thats still worth something and their front line.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Travers is a guard now? News to me.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth really have no margin for error with Cotton unable to pull something out of nowhere. If they have a bad shooting night Hawks could pull it off. IMO Blanchfield is the key, if he can score efficiently then open up the inside for Perths bigs.

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LV  
Last month

Perth could win in typical Perth ways

- Forcing Illawarra into heaps of turnovers- led by Norton's pressure

- Dominating on the glass, led by Mooney and Magnay generating loads of 2nd chance opportunities

However, it's true Perth lacks firepower without Cotton, and Cotton's absence has reduced Mooney's effectiveness (whereas the opposite isnt true- Cotton has been dominating for 5 years with a range of bigs. Just one reason Cotton is MVP for mine)

Perth still has elite defense, plus the Red Army and the home cooking.

I could see this going either way- Perth winning in those ways, or alternatively if Hawks control the ball efficiently, and Harvey and Jessup have good shooting nights, Hawks could win this comfortably.

Probably a 50/50 game and hard to predict a winner. Knowing the NBL, Perth will get a dodgy call with 35 seconds left and win by a point!



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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth have been preparing for Cotton's absence for 2-3 weeks now. They'll be fine.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Playoffs haven't even started and the refs are in LV's head already lol

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Zodiac  
Last month

I expect the Cats will come out all guns blazing they know they can't afford to drop this game if they want to win the series so think Perth will win tonight but Hawks will win the series.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Loveboat, travers is high quality player and so is Norton, Cairns would've loved them on their list, you really have no idea do you.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Cotton's absence has reduced Mooney's effectiveness "

Three out of the four games that Cotton missed say otherwise. He had a shocker against Melbourne but Perth were missing their starting backcourt, one an MVP frontrunner, and the other a top three defender in the league.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Love when no one gives Perth a chance, done better than expected so even without cotton I wouldn't count out Perth

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D2.0  
Last month

Perth ARE good enough to whoop the Hawks assess. But in addition to everyone having their "usual" good game, it requires a couple of extras to step up and have one of their great games. If everyone plays their usual role, and Steindl and Blanchfield get going, it will be goodnight Hawks. But Blanch has had some off games, and Clint has had more shockers than otherwise this season.
Hard to predict, and a loss wouldn't completely surprise me.

Cats need to shut-down Harvey.
And on the whole I think they will be too good.

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Perthworld  
Last month

PER odds firming from 1.6x to 1.4x, the market likes them.

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Jack Toft  
Last month

The only real difference between Cats fans and Collingwood fans is dental hygiene

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TB  
Last month

And our team has a coach

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jack Toft's recycled jokes get less funny each week.

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AngusH  
Last month

^^ good contribution, anon #452.

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Anonymous  
Last month

TB Yours might be done before Bucks is though

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Isaac  
Last month

Actually a pretty fascinating match-up given the quality of coaching on both sides, and Cotton's absence.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Agreed, the Master vs the Apprentice makes for an interesting battle too.

I think Gleeson might pop a blood vessel tonight from all the squealing, he knows how much they need to win tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last month

While Goorjian is going to remain completely calm during the game....

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Perthworld  
Last month

and here we go!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Aylen reffing makes Perth favourites.

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Perthworld  
Last month

ILL 7-52 record since 1982 in Perth.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Someone tell me how Kevin White is in the league

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Perthworld  
Last month

Yeah, Aylen is really helping us out. Ha!

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Anonymous  
Last month

What a horrible call from aylen.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What's the covid rule there, place is half full.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Semi finals are always half full

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Perthworld  
Last month

A lot of n00bs must be assuming another GF appearance is inevitable. If only.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Does Harvey think he can win it by himself? 2-10 and he's taken 6 horrible shots.

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LV  
Last month

Looking inevitable if Harvey keeps shooting like this.

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Bol  
Last month

White gets done for unsportsmanlike for trying to draw the charge.

Lol at Gaze saying "i dont like the play and something inside me tells me he got what he deserved". Isn't that exactly what Gaze himself did to draw the fourth foul on ricky grace in the 1993 GF??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Magney affecting the game without scoring. Great ring defence

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Anonymous  
Last month

So is Travers not in a dangerous position when in the air? Simons hip hits him in the shoulder, no foul...

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Anonymous  
Last month

How the hell wasn't that a foul on Simon???

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Perthworld  
Last month

Every face shown up close at Perth Arena is bright red. Fix the lighting NBL TV it looks amateurish.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No home court advantage!

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Anonymous  
Last month

This reffing is extremely inconsistent

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LV  
Last month

Will either of these teams get 80 points in this series?

Will either of them take a game off a healthy United?

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AngusH  
Last month

Not a great crowd. More of a red vanguard than a red army.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Get a new TV Perthworld. Perhaps something digital not CRT.

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LV  
Last month

I thought Creek's tech on Tuesday was the stupidest tech I'd seen in a long time

Trev just topped him!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Gleason may just cost them the game! Woot!

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Anonymous  
Last month

How the hell does Kevin White have a reputation as a good defender - he's atrocious on both ends.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Gleeson can really be a turd at times.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's seems goorjian doesn't know the rules.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Get a new TV Perthworld. Perhaps something digital not CRT.

Clever but I have a 4K UHD.

The production team aren't using the correct lighting during player interviews.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Gleeson's tech had zero impact on the game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kevin White fouling out is a big positive for Perth

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Anonymous  
Last month

Blanchfield 6/11 from three, rest of Perth is 1/14

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Perthworld  
Last month

It's actually awesome.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Kevin White fouling out that is. Disgusting when he chucks up no hoper three point shots.

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LV  
Last month

FROLING OVER WAGSTAFF

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Anonymous  
Last month

The reffing is beyond a joke. Completely favouring the hawks. How can your hip hit a guy in mid air laying up not be afoul but setting a pic or taking a charge is a usf.

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LV  
Last month

Wagstaff on a poster, then drops the shoulder

Reminiscent of the infamous missed layup

Time to hang em up

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Anonymous  
Last month

If that's unsportsmanlike, this game is pathetic

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LV  
Last month

Harvey can't buy a basket and Hawks 8/17 from the line yet Hawks down 2.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth will just because they no how to win, Illawarra make free throws they should have won it

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Perthworld  
Last month

Cotton is out yet Wildcats are up by 4.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Harvey has a bit of Casper about him come play-offs

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Perthworld  
Last month

That's a very good comparison, he definitely has helped us.

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Perthworld  
Last month

On cue he chucks up complete garbage. Love it.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Damn, too bad Jessup shot that one.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Jessup again. Ouch.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wagstaff lost this for Perth

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LV  
Last month

Simon MVP of this game

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Anonymous  
Last month

how bout them perf crowds

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Anonymous  
Last month

Haha

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Perthworld  
Last month

Damn, that would have been such a sweet winner by Blanchfield.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Good game, I still expect Perth to win the series

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Anonymous  
Last month

There were some atrocious calls during that game, all seemingly favouring Illawarra.

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Another Anon  
Last month

Just give United the trophy as planned from preseason and save everyone 3 weeks of crap.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Simon MVP of this game

You spelt Aylen wrong.

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Anonymous  
Last month

But it wasn't. 1 of 35 in perth for the Hawks. Boom baby. Good odds and fantastic to see Perth lose!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wagstaff got too much run. Kevin White is can barely bring the ball up past half court and plays no defense

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Anonymous  
Last month

The fans should have turned up, might be last game this season.

Well done hawks in a slugfest.

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LV  
Last month

Illawarra was $5 at half time

Quality D by both teams

The go ahead 3 by Jessup was massive. Good D on the possession by Perth, yet Jessup steps back and just ices it.

Can confirm home cooking was happily absent!

Don't think Illawarra have the capability to take either healthy United or healthy SEM to 5 games, but very happy for them and their fans if they can take this series

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TB  
Last month

Well played Hawks played till the end.

Refs didn't decide the result but it was still a shameful display.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Everyone complaining about the refs are idiots. Perth couldn't defend without fouling.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can confirm home cooking was happily absent!

Exactly. It was evidently one sided against Perth. Are you ok with that?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Norton's second and third fouls weren't fouls. Magnay getting called for a charge at one end, then the next play getting called for a block was completely inconsistent. White's USf was not usf - refs have been happy to call that as a charge all season. Cats players players asking for a review with no luck when all season a United player has to twirl his finger and he gets the refs to bend over.

That was atrocious.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Now you see why Cotton is the MVP. Once he is out, they look worse than Cairns.

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Anonymous  
Last month

*Cotton and Norton

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Isaac  
Last month

Simon the steady factor through Harvey's shocker and Jessup taking time to get going. Thought Norton chasing Harvey was key and went close enough to deciding the game.

Doubt they’re regretting digging Coenraad back up!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Why didn't Perth call a timeout after the missed FT? Does it not advance the ball?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perth foul defensively all the time, difference is normally in Perth they get away with it. Perth need to get someone else to mark Harvey as they need him on the floor offensively.
Mooney missing shots he normally makes.
Yes Coenraad has been great. Froling was exceptional as well.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can't call a timeout during play.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If Gleeson and Mooney go, even with Cotton still there the floppycats are going to have a very big rebuild to do. The cracks are already showing.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Haha are you serious? They have the best outlook over the next five years than any other club does.

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Bol  
Last month

Not one to criticise the refs usually but the reffing this game was atrocious!!

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AngusH  
Last month

That Froling dunk was something else. Didn't know he had it in him.

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Vesta25  
Last month

I was told only one coach could patrol the sidelines How come the Hawks assistant was allowed to walk up and down the sideline the Gorge most of the night without the refs correcting this. Last week Gleeson was given a tech for being in the wrong area

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Bol  
Last month

Wildcats blew it in the end. They had a good lead and couldn't hit their shots in the last quarter and some poor turnovers too. They have themselves to blame but the hawks did well to hang in there and make a couple of big plays.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Goorj is given a pass for all of his antics for nostalgic reasons, and for the fact he's never coached Perth. He steps on the court all the time, he screams at people from the halfway line, and he generally looks like he shat his pants and is trying to hide it.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Harvey did his best to brick us to a win, but even then we didn't have it in us.
No margin for error for Perth. Can't afford passengers, and we had a few tonight. Hawks defence was impressive.

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Luuuc  
Last month

... but shoutout to Blanchfield. Warrior mode tonight. Just not enough help.

I think it will come down to whether or not Norton gets into foul trouble

Those early ones were a big factor.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol, ha, ha,ha, it's the refs, Goorj and his assistant walking the sidelines, keep them coming, I’m enjoying it.

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Vesta25  
Last month

No it's not the refs. It’s the assistant who should know the protocols

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AngusH  
Last month

#enforcetheprotocols

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Vesta25  
Last month

Well played Hawks. Simon was player of the match. Great game Blanchfield

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Anonymous  
Last month

If you call a time out when it's not actually yours to call then I thought it was a technical foul, not only did goorj call it, the ref blew it, then realised, then went oops then let goorj have his subs anyway... like what the hell is that in a finals game??? The usf fouls were a joke, the blocks on wagstafff and magnay a joke and the fouls on norton to start the game obscene and frankly closer to offensive fouls from Harvey.

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koberulz  
Last month

If you call a time out when it's not actually yours to call then I thought it was a technical foul,
Goorjian was perfectly within his rights to request a timeout, why should he be teched because the scorebench screwed up and stopped the game?

Illawarra should be heading home with a lot of confidence. Unlikely Blanchfield and Harvey both repeat their performances in game two. But it's also pretty obvious this series would've been over before it started had Cotton been healthy.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'm asking if it is a rule? I had picked up somewhere, could be wrong that if you call a time out when your not meant to you can be given a technical foul. Surely at a minimum he should not get rewarded and be allowed to make his subs when he was not entitled to it.

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koberulz  
Last month

if you call a time out when your not meant to
As I said, Goorjian was perfectly entitled to ask for a timeout. Why would he be punished?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ok kober, should he have been rewarded for intentionally asking for a time out when he was not entitled to it? Should he have been allowed to make subs when the referees and bench fell for his shenanigans? Jason Kidd was entitled to spill a drink on the court accidentally back in the day too...

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koberulz  
Last month

intentionally asking for a time out when he was not entitled to it?
For the third time: Goorjian was perfectly entitled to ask for a timeout.

This conversation will go a lot easier if you learn to read.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You can not call a timeout after your team scores. Fact. He asked for one after his team scored. Even if he was allowed to ask, should he have been allowed to make his sibs when the ref's realised they messed up? To me that's like throwing a shoe on the court to cause a delay so you can make a sub.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The scorebench incorrectly stopped the game and the clock. Once the game is stopped BOTH teams are entitled to sub and both teams did. The scorebench made the error and then the referee's disallowed the time out.

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koberulz  
Last month

You can not call a timeout after your team scores. Fact.
Coaches can't call timeout, ever, under FIBA rules. Only the scorebench can call timeout.

The coach is entitled to ask the scorebench to call a timeout for him at the next available opportunity whenever he damn well pleases. It's the responsibility of the scorebench to stop the game at the appropriate time.

You frequently see coaches ask the scorebench for a timeout in situations where the game cannot immediately be stopped, most frequently after a missed shot or turnover, and the scorebench simply waits for a timeout opportunity and then alerts the referees.

There's no rule that says the coach must ask the scorebench for a timeout only during a timeout opportunity.

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D2.0  
Last month

End of the day, when you need to replace Cotton's scoring shooting 2 of 17 from outside (everyone but Blanch) just isn't going to get the job done.

I know that Cotton makes everyone look better, but there were a few guys who really needed to do better.
We all know that (barring a miracle) the 3-peat was shot when Cotton confirmed he was out. AND this remains a remarkable achievement for a squad we thought would struggle to even make the top 4. But some of these guys need to dig deep and find something to play for, even if it's only for a contract next season.

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Kb_24  
Last month

They play 36 games and semi finals is best of 3..need to be best of 5..

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UseTaHoop  
Last month

I missed all the excitement.

Haven't seen the game, but wanna see the time out call now.

Sounds like a cluster...

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TB  
Last month

I Watched the timeout cluster happen.

Perth had Subs lined up for a while. The hawks had a run on (I think 3 unanswered buckets).

After the corner 3 the score bench blew the horn for subs. Gorj and the Hawks assumed Gleeson had called a time out and all came on the court.

Aylen was trying to get them off, which took ages, last I checked if a coach and 6 players enter the court without a time out its a Tech.

During the screw up Naar or White entered the game without telling the score bench which delayed it further.

Absolutes cluster but showed how pathetic and spineless NBL refs are.

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TB  
Last month

So Kobe, yes, Gorj can ask for a Timeout whenever he wants...but he didn't ask for one. Use your brain, why would he want one after his team was firing.

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Anonymous  
Last month

TB go watch the video. As soon as the 3 splashed he rushed the scoretable asking for a TO

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Anonymous  
Last month

#562 you should write fiction

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Anonymous  
Last month

TB the bench were incompetent but not even they are going to blow the horn and stop the game for subs on a made field goal outside the 2 mins of the 4th. You my friend are delusional

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TB  
Last month

I just watched the replay, there is no footage of Gorj asking for the TO, it looked totally different at the game and even Santamaria thought Gleeson had called the TO. My apologies, like I said it looked different at the game.

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Anonymous  
Last month

If you call for a TO and you don't have any left you can be teched, maybe that’s what’s confusing you?

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Anonymous  
Last month

No you can't at NBL level. The scoretable won't give you a time out if you have none left. It's irrelevant.

The basis for all this complaining seems to be that the NBL are more organised than your local domestic game and therefore Perth got screwed.

1) scoretable made an error, benefiting both teams in the end, as both were able to sub when previously they could not.

2) Hawks AC stood to talk to head coach, as did Perth's AC but Hawks AC should have been T'd, no.

3) Attempted to set a screen, gave blinded player a hard hit with shoulder. Video reviewed by NBL Review centre, player correctly awarded USF.

Yet the refereeing was terrible. Summary my biased opinion of the game as a follower of one team was different to that of the referees. Therefore refereeing was bad. Australian sports fan logic.

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KET  
Last month

Deep down we all knew at some level refs would be blamed

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woody  
Last month

Look at how much Class Gorj has and then you look at the way Gleeson talks to the refs. He maybe a good coach but he has no respect the way he carries on is embarrassing. He would be a terrible ambassador for our country at world events I am glad he has not been and hopefully never will be boomers coach. Massive tool.

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Anonymous  
Last month

You think the way Goorjian carries on is classy? Wow.

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Another Anon  
Last month

Big fan of Gorj but his 'no no no no' tanty when White picked up his 4th was pretty funny.

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Bol  
Last month

Yeah it was a pretty obvious foul white moving into steindl's landing zone and it happened right in front of gorj. Hes smart enough to know its a foul i feel it was just emotion and gamesmanship taking over to sway the refs for the next call. All the coaches do it unfortunately the refs need to be better.

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Anonymous  
Last month

There was a game midseason where he was complaining about the lop-sided foul count and he asked if it was personal. That's not classy at all.

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koberulz  
Last month

I Watched the timeout cluster happen.
From where? I sit directly opposite the score table and Goorjian clearly went to the scorer's table and asked for a timeout.

Absolutes cluster but showed how pathetic and spineless NBL refs are.
How does it show that?

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Bolt  
Last month

Protocols. Refs. Perf lost.

Can't see Harvey playing that badly again, especially at home. Happy for guys like Coenraad & AJ who’ve lost their fair share of playoff games in WA.

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KET  
Last month

Most coaches ride the refs, I wouldn't put it against one specific coach for doing it.

I didnt have a problem with Wright doing it, I don’t have a problem with Gleeson doing it and Goorjian can do it if the others can.

If the NBL don’t want that, they can make a directive and T off the coaches quicker with less warning.

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TB  
Last month

No need to be a dick Kobe, I said I saw it differently and apologised when I realised I had it wrong.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kobe a dick? No way said no one ever.

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LV  
Last month

I don't mind it either. Gleeson is annoying as heck, but all he's doing is pushing to the absolute limit, just like him and Goorjian have always done with teaching their players how to play defense, or how Bellamy does it at Melbourne Storm. Same principle in a different area- ride the refs without crossing the line.

However, Trev did cross the line last night, at the worst possible time. ha.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Exactly, nbl should make it a rule on coaches next season, question respectfully it the tech. If junior coaches behaved that way they would out on their ear.

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Anonymous  
Last month

However, Trev did cross the line last night, at the worst possible time. ha.

Jessup missed the free throw. It had no impact on the game. ha.

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LV  
Last month

Doesn't matter, Trevs lucky he missed

Only worse time would've been 4th

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Anonymous  
Last month

So he did it at the worst possible time, it didn't affect the game but that doesn't matter and also there was a worse time for him to do it. That was bad trolling.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Illawarra got the ball back, it cost Perth one extra attacking play and hawks could have scored off that play, I can't remember if they did or not. He also had to kerb his aggression for the rest game or he was out of there.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Illawarra got the ball back

No they didn't.

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Anonymous  
Last month

568, I think your right it must be if you are out of time-outs you can be t'd up if you ask, possibly an nba rule?. As in my original post I did say I thought I picked it up as a rule somewhere, maybe if kober actually tried to answer the question without well being kober it could have avoided a lot of unnecessary crap. Those two usf were pathetic, just because they went to the replay hardly means it was consistent with how they were called all year. Also unsure how a player laying up the ball doesn't draw a foul when he gets a hip of the defender trying to block the shot in the shoulder? That's not a usf? Dangerous play? Hmm

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Anonymous  
Last month

#641 maybe learn the rules and none of this will be difficult for you to comprehend.

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Anonymous  
Last month

642, so seeking clarification is not part of the learning process? Your a bright spark aren't you

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Anonymous  
Last month

You didn't seek clarification on the USF’s you stated pathetic calls which shows you do not know the rules.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pretty simple rule. More than 5 players on the court is a tech.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Actually not that simple.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pretty simple rule, referee beckons you on it's a sub

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are people suggesting Hawks had six players on the court? What? When?

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Anonymous  
Last month

No complaining about the scoretable error in stopping the game for an Illawarra time out that they were not entitled too. Just salty Perth fans

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Anonymous  
Last month

There is nothing to suggest the people discussing the rule application are Perth fans.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No one but Perth fans give a shit about the play

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Anonymous  
Last month

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with people from Perth.

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Perthworld  
Last month

There's some really weird OCD going on in here about an inconsequential stoppage.

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Anonymous  
Last month

No just clueless people who have no idea about the rules

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hey 660, we weren't talking about the usfs so clearly you don't understand context. But they were pathetic calls. You can bend the rule whatever way you want to, fact is those plays have not been usf all season and is hardly play-off interpretations

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Anonymous  
Last month

Can you show me in the rules where there is regular season interpretations and where there are play off interpretations? I'll just sit here with my beer and popcorn as this factual response should be a cracker? I await your response citing rules and interpretations.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So you have never heard the expression play-off basketball? Where the ref's tend to let them play more? Nbl and NBA commentary talk about it all the time. In any case I notice you ignored the part where I noted that those plays had not been called usf all season, so why last night?

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's not a thing. A travel is still a travel, a foul is still a foul etc etc play off intensity is a thing but sorry dude the rules don’t change. All season if you have set a floating mid court screen, if you were never stationary and you rolled your shoulder to hit the defender it has always been USF since Tai Wesley started the thuggery. You should probably keep up and watch more games.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think we don't agree on the type of screen set bud. Any thought on the kevin white one or did he roll his shoulder too?

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Anonymous  
Last month

He just picked Grida off. Let's just take people out to stop the transition. There is a USF criteria for that. But hey you know all 5 I’m sure. You lost, you got no home cooking and your king finally got a T for carrying on like he has all season. You lost to a better team and your trying to blame it on the referees but you don’t know the rules or the criteria that is applied. But that’s ok. I never figured you for having any idea about the rules which has been plainly obvious from your posts.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Players have taken charges off the ball all season and got rewarded. I personally hate the play and actually have no problem with it been usf as for mine it's not a basketball play. I have a problem with the interpretation flipping. Later in the game when Harvey just picked norton off while setting a screen on the baseline was that not the same action? Went unwhistled. What I have is a different opinion to yours. Trev got a t weeks ago, I thought he could have got tossed last night, he seemed particularly irate, oh I wonder why??

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Anonymous  
Last month

hmmm how come you select plays that ONLY possibly have an impact on Perth? So you're one eyed in addition to not knowing the rules.

White wasn’t trying to take a charge he just jumped in front of Grida and made sure there was contact whilst extending his arms. This is a simple USF under the criteria

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Anonymous  
Last month

Well Perth played the hawks last night and they are the plays we are talking about.

I don't think what white did was really any different to what others have done taking charges off ball all season, what was different was the call. All fans want is consistent interpretations.

I guess you're definitely not a perth hater (one eyed), obviously I can see from your bio that you are supremely qualified to be the official judge in all matters basketball and could not possibly be wrong. Is this aylen????

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Anonymous  
Last month

What was different,it was in transition after release of the ball and not waiting in the paint to get run over. White never had LGP and just tried to kill the play. All key differences.

I'm not one eyed. I just hate people who don’t know the rules. The rule book is online along with the interpretations document. You don’t have to be a referee to know them. You just have to be able to read and apply them without bias.

But hey you’re the oracle, your trying to set the narrative. I’m a nobody, I just giggle at your lack of knowledge. I’m wrong more often than not. But I more readily accept it when you have better proof than playoff interpretations that don’t exist.

I’m sorry you lost game 1 I really am. You just got beat. And i have a bio? OMG that’s so cool

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Anonymous  
Last month

Players have been taking charges on a player running up the court outside the paint all season, my point is that this is no different to those plays, other than this was a usf not a charge. You are aware that people who know the rules better than most can view a play and interpret it differently right.

For a good reader I'm not sure how you deduced that I said there is a play-off version of the rules. It is a common sentiment uttered by those within the industry that play-offs are called differently. I just finished listening to a ringer pod where they were discussing just that, it's not some concept I saw in my crystal ball.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's not a concept. Players play harder, rules are the same. It’s a simple concept

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Anonymous  
Last month

"It's not a concept....it's a simple concept". That was rather insightful. Anyone ever been let of a ticket for a driving offence with a warning? Who knew the same law (rule) could be applied or interpreted differently.

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