Anonymous
Earlier this year

Citizenship of national team players

Looking at the rosters for Asia cup qualifiers, a couple of teams have 2 players born outside of the country they represent. How is this possible?

A lot of talk about Nigeria getting several players to play for them at once, none born in nigeria.

What are the FIBA rules?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Was looking also, found it odd.


Side note. Check this new chinese n.t player.
http://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2021/qualifiers/player/Chuanxing-Liu

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Looks like China has a development squad

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Cram  
Earlier this year

As I understood it, if they're naturalised as a kid they don't count towards the cap of one player naturalising (think CJ Bruton). Though the Thybule thing has tested this. All I can think of is that he never got his citizenship until recently (rather just stayed as a PR)

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Isaac  
Earlier this year

Iraq has two Americans listed who naturalised, but Mayfield replaced Galloway. Might be the case for other teams too?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Japan has edwards born in arizona, watanabe born in hawaii.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Anyone seen the Nigerian team lol.

Also the women's side may have all ogwumike sisters.

Absolute bs by fiba.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Disgrace, yet we can't have Mitchell naturalised.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Mitchell as a local I mean.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

If you have duel-citizenship, then you don't need naturalise, can simply choose which country to represent. So for most countries you can have citizenship even if one parent was born there. So if your grandparents moved to say America when your mother was a baby, you can still have citizenship on the country where she was born.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

But they have already played for the USA.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

"A lot of talk about Nigeria getting several players to play for them at once, none born in nigeria."

And?

For our NBA players who've had children born in the USA, should those kids not be allowed to play for Australia?
Should Irving not have been allowed to play for the USA?

Maybe if your parents were so poor they didn't have a pot to piss in, they were likely to be murdered in ethnic and tribal violence, and you were most likely to die as an infant, they too would have taken any opportunity to get into the USA, or indeed anywhere slightly less hellish.

"Japan has edwards born in arizona, watanabe born in hawaii."

Watanabe (Hogland) has a Japanese mother, and has NEVER played BASKETBALL for the USA.

A lot of the lists floating around are COMPOSITES, and include players from different stages.
(Other lists are just plain fucked, ascribing "Country" based on their current professional team.)

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Irving spent no time in Aus. The Americans in nigeria team were not born there nor have they ever stepped foot in nigeria and parents immigrated from nigeria 30 years ago.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

So with all that, why can't we have both Mitchell,and Whitcomb.

Mitchell was not born in Aus but has Aus mum...

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

As stated it's all about making Africa basketball grow. 1 set of rules for them, different for the other regions.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

3 of the Nigerian women already played for USA lol but FIBA allows the transition within 2 weeks to nigeria. It's fked.

Both men n women teams from nigeria may have 20 of the 24 players born in the USA next year or following. That’s pretty scummy thing to do and locals aren’t happy.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

"The Americans in nigeria team were not born there nor have they ever stepped foot in nigeria and parents immigrated from nigeria 30 years ago."

And? WTF is your point?

"That's pretty scummy thing to do and locals aren’t happy."

Yes, White people often get upset when uppity black nations forget their place and try to compete. Thank goodness they can't afford swimming pools or bicycles.

As for "locals", yes I'm sure Jason Caddee would love to be representing Australia. How rude of us to allow those damn "better players" to take his spot.

The basic rules are simple, and apply to every country.
If one of your parents was born in Country 'X', then you qualify for citizenship. End of Story. You're' not naturalised, you're a citizen from birth. You don't have to even visit the place.
As a General rule, you can only represent one country, however there are rules and exceptions in place to protect players from the effects of coercion.

For most purposes, representing a country before the age of 17 is practically irrelevant. There are some protections available up to the age of 21, and even after that FIBA can and will rule on cases of exploitation.
Of particular concern has been the American practice of forcing young collegiate athletes to declare for the USA just so they can "represent their country" playing for a D-squad in some type of bumfuck "friendship" games, just in case said athlete later develops into a real prospect.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

D2, read the rules please.

If that was the case lei Mitchell would be a local.

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Manly Man  
Two months ago

stop the nonsense please.

Fiba has a "HAGOP" rule, that states that you had to have a country's citizenship by the age of 16, that way you are not considered a naturalized player. Only one naturalized player per national team.

SOME countries give you a citizenship automatically by being born there (EVEN to foreign parents) or being born to a parent citizen of that country (not sure about grandparents)

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Manly Man  
Two months ago

Qatar team for example has now many Bosnian players playing for them. They have been brought to Qatar (and given citizenship) before the age of 16 and have been developed there since.

You have to also understand, that SOME countries with lets say LESS STRICT internal laws can forge and present documents, stating that a person had been given a passport (citizenship) long long time ago in his childhood.

On top of all of this, there are EXCEPTIONS given by the FIBA federation at their discretion.

There is also a rule that you can represent DIFFERENT countries in your career, IF you are given a release by your OLD FEDERATION and IF FIBA authorizes this change.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

It's nice that someone made a website already for the Nigerian team, aka USA B team
www.usab.com

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