Scout
Two months ago

Delly signs with Melbourne United

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Scout  
Two months ago

https://twitter.com/OlgunUluc/status/1413249072467636226

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Ritz  
Two months ago

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KET  
Two months ago

Hahah

LV uses losing McCaron to argue Melbourne aren't as big spenders compared to others;
Obvious response is maybe they have something better planned
LV criticises argument.
Then Melbourne sign Delly

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I was hoping they'd sign a defensive-minded, pass-first PG... and Delly definitely fits the bill.

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LV  
Two months ago

This would be awesome! Everyone loves Delly. Hustle, heart, team first PG. Please be true!

United are indeed big spenders but so are Sydney, Perth and SEM. Remember Oluc implied United weren't top spenders last season.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Last season was Perth. They will have the biggest luxury tax to pay

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Senator11  
Two months ago

Big signing, hopefully his body can hold up, surprised he's only 30.

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Daniel Felmingham  
Two months ago

Was hoping we could sign him at the Jackjumpers,I know we also tried hard to get him but I'm happy for Melbourne.

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KWhite_Rulz  
Two months ago

Having Delly in the league will be awesome.

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KWhite_Rulz  
Two months ago

Having Delly in the league will be awesome.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

I'm going to find it very difficult to dislike Melbourne now

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Senator11  
Two months ago

Would've been pretty awesome to see Damo vs Delly, the D and who could out hustle each other.

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Aussie  
Two months ago

Delly is a true legend!

Well done Melbourne United

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D2.0  
Two months ago

Well I was wondering who would be their marquee next season..
Bad luck JJs

And yeah MU biggest spenders again next season

Good for the league

Just hope JJs find someone else

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cmon Baynes in cairns...

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AngusH  
Two months ago

Happy to see Delly in the NBL... on paper, a perfect replacememt/upgrade to McCarron based on playstyle, lets see how he looks in Tokyo though, been awhile since he was fully healthy.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Fully healthy lol smh

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

Great for the NBL and for Melbourne.

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Scout  
Two months ago

Exactly D2.0 - pleased for Delly to be coming home to his home city and family.

Great for the league

Hoping that the Jackjumpers have another marquee signing in their sights.

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Bolt  
Two months ago

Not sure Delly is an upgrade on McCarron but he's a great compliment to the greatest player ever.

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Anon  
Two months ago

Not sure Delly is an upgrade on McCarron but he's a great compliment to the greatest player ever.

Can I have the name of your weed dealer?

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Cram  
Two months ago

Great to see Delly in the league. But going to United hurts.

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Senator11  
Two months ago

The league is looking super strong heading towards the future with players signing multiple year deals. Hoping the Wildcats have a "hold my beer" moment coming soon...

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LV  
Two months ago

Yeah, I doubt Delly will be an upgrade on McCarron.

United will be hoping Delly settles in his home city for the long term, like Anstey and Barlow before him. Whereas they would've thought McCarron might sign for 3 more years, then head home to Brisbane or the best offer.

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LV  
Two months ago

If Delly plays hard nosed D, sets the tone offensively and controls the pace, and makes NBL 2nd team I'll be pretty happy with that

Ie similar to what McCarron did this year

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AngusH  
Two months ago

A healthy Delly is undoubtedly an upgrade on McCarron.

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LV  
Two months ago

Based on what I've seen him do for the Boomers, I agree.

But it remains to be seen how that translates to the NBL under Vickerman.

Don't underestimate the season McCarron just had- the best of his 3 seasons with United. CG was better in playoffs but through regular season I had McCarron as United's 2nd most important player after Landale.

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loungefly  
Two months ago

Apparently 700K for Delly..I wonder what new player rule the league will make up so Melbourne can sign someone and not pay their salary like they did with Baba last season

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rjd  
Two months ago

This is great news for the league. Another high profile player returning at an age he can still contribute as a star of the league.

I'm actually glad he has left the NBA. It's better to go to another league than be left on the bench.

I'm not sure what value Delly has right now. I suppose we will see in a month's time in Tokyo. His time in the NBA seemed to be over, especially with rumours of a concussion-induced retirement. Hopefully those rumours were baseless and he has many years left in him.

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ME  
Two months ago

A 30 year old NBA point guard with NBA championship experience and starting point guard of the Boomers at three Olympics vs. Mitch McCarron.

Gee... I wonder who is better?!?!?!

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Senator11  
Two months ago

McCarron would be coming off he bench if he stayed at United.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Lol LV trying to play down the signing as not splashy, unlikely to be better than McCarron hahaha

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RS  
Two months ago

Official team announcement confirms this as a 3yr deal

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LoveBroker  
Two months ago

It with these conjectures about salary that I wish the league would release salaries by team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Matt Logue writes:

"Dellavedova, who is currently in Boomers camp in preparation for his third Olympics in Tokyo, also received interest from the NBL's newest team, the Tasmania JackJumpers.
However, it’s understood the JackJumpers didn’t have the budget to land the star guard’s signature.

However, it’s understood the United deal has been in the pipeline for some time, with a contract worth approximately $700,000 on the table."

https://www.news.com.au/sport/basketball/nbl-melbourne-united-set-to-sign-nba-championship-winner-matthew-dellavedova/news-story/7ccd39a200d95a34d70d84e71dcb67ec

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Delly is not worth more than cotton. Cotton be like I'm the mvp and gettin 650.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Rip his nba career

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rjd  
Two months ago

Is that $700k over the 3 years, or $700k per year?

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Delly is not worth more than cotton. Cotton be like I'm the mvp and gettin 650.

United always overpay though. Business as usual.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

In the team announcement, they said Delly is free to continue exploring NBA options this off-season.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Is that $700k over the 3 years, or $700k per year?"

I'm guessing per year. $700k over 3 years would be very low for a marquee signing like him.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"I'm guessing per year. $700k over 3 years would be very low for a marquee signing like him."

And would also correlate with the comment that the JackJumpers couldn't afford him.

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Senator11  
Two months ago

700K doesn't seem that bad considering his resume, not to mention putting bums in seats and hopefully getting new viewers/members across the board. United are building their team, but also helping the NBL as a whole by signing him.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Does this mean super agent Bruce can play himself in the upcoming Hollywood Movie? Would be great if they film the closing scenes on his career in Melbourne. What a coup!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

The cap is close to 1.7 mill now.
Asian players don't count I believe
Marquees don’t count.
Delly won’t count.

That’s 400 Baba + 700 Delly that won’t count to cap.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

D2.0 - let's get one thing straight - in NBL21, the highest spender by a lonnnnnng long long way was Perth. Melb Utd would be second or third. This will be the same in NBL22.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

We have no idea until they list payments.

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LoveBroker  
Two months ago

In the team announcement, they said Delly is free to continue exploring NBA options this off-season.


Thats like saying I'm free to continue proposing marriage to Emily Ratjuakowski.

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LV  
Two months ago

United can keep an import spot up their sleeve, for use if Delly returns to the NBA.

Marquees used to count 150k towards the cap- is that still the rule?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Marquee players do count, Deladova would be number one and Goulding number two. Combined total wage to the cap is400k, every club has the same rules.
Surely the JJ's can’t be that poor already, if they have paid more than 120k for anyone they have recruited there paying overs.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

$150 for 1st, $250 for 2nd. I believe you are allowed a third at $350. The rules are the same for all clubs.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

People seem to be missing the fact Delly signed a 3 year deal with United at $700k per year, I doubt the JJ's or too many other teams could afford that.

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The Real Nostraballmus  
Two months ago

Nostraballmus sees Delly being named our next Boomers coach, after the Tokyo Olympics debacle. 5 year contract, next Olympics, 4 year plan to win that elusive medal.

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

So Delly's signing is probably in place of Landale. It sucks United buying up all the best talent year in year out but still good to see a current NBA player like Delly come back home.

LV trying to spin it as Delly not a big upgrade on McCarron is hilarious. Delly is a triple Olympian and just spent 8 years playing in the NBA including a significant role on an NBA championship team, McCarron is a nice NBL player but hardly NBA standard.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

And if you go over the cap, where does the money go?

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Giacontigers  
Two months ago

Another great signing by Melbourne United!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"D2.0 - let's get one thing straight - in NBL21, the highest spender by a lonnnnnng long long way was Perth. Melb Utd would be second or third. This will be the same in NBL22."

Don't confuse the terminology "spent" with "value counted towards the cap".

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Hopscotch 55  
Two months ago

United going to be tough to beat again in 21/22.
Great signing.

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Perth fan.  
Two months ago

Overspend salaries are dispersed to lower spending clubs?

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Giacontigers  
Two months ago

Perthworld Wildcats will probably be stacked later in free-agency. Be patient because once Bryce is Australian I think no NBL teams can stop them?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Does being Australian make a player impervious to serious injuries?

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Bolt  
Two months ago

Rebounding, passing, shooting off the dribble, athleticism, speed - Macca.
Defender - Delly.
Three point shooting - even.

Time will tell I guess but Delly is going to have to hit the boards and push the ball at pace to replace McCarron and his worth on this team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

McCarron can't even make the boomers side/squad whilst delly has been a starter on the last wc and olympics teams and will be in the team again. Its clear who’s better

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Great to see him come home and strengthen the league but I suspect this will be the end of dellys nba days. Considering the talk of exum has done very well at camp, delly probably looked at his cards in that he likely won't start and thus won’t impress an nba team so decided to come home for money which would’ve been close to what he would’ve gotten in the nba. He also probably noticed he struggles to get minutes (even pre concussion issues) on a shit cavs side and is still young enough that he wants to play thus leading to United.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Imagine if you had just committed to sell an ownership stage in United. Oops. I guess they can change their mind, but query if you can own interests in 2 clubs.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

Yeah, deluded claims from random anons,
Welcome to Hoops

Only a complete crackhead would think Perth spent more than MU
I'm sure we would have if we could have, but there just wasn't the players available.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

and yeah it's a crying shame that the JJs weren't given the budget to get Delly
Would have been the perfect foundation Captain for them

Delly is Melbourne's marquee, Reath rumoured to Illawarra, who else is a possibility for JJs to go after

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Bolt  
Two months ago

Macca for me.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

At this stage of there careers it's maca for me.

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Hoopie  
Two months ago

Love ya, Delly, but give me Mitch right now

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LV  
Two months ago

My prediction would be Delly will have a similar impact on the offensive end as McCarron, perhaps another couple of assists, maybe 10 and 7.

McCarron better rebounder and pushing the break, Delly better in facilitating half court offence.

Defensively both are pretty solid, Delly a slight upgrade based on his experience guarding world class players, plus his physicality and elite hustle.

Id predict a slight upgrade overall and Delly to take McCarron's spot in All NBL 2nd team.

But its hard to say. Delly has had plenty of injuries the last few years. He'll show us where he's at in Tokyo. For Boomers sake, hopefully he's rolling!

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Hoopie  
Two months ago

Can he be required to wear head protection as part of his contract, to improve the chances of lasting the season?

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rjd  
Two months ago

When you consider injury concerns, career trajectory and recent form, especially in shooting, I also agree it's not ridiculous to suggest McCarron might be able to contribute more than Dellavedova. McCarron is coming off an All-NBL 2nd team. I don't expect Delly to come back as an All-NBL 2nd team player. On an individual level, McCarron can probably do more than Delly. But Delly is an experienced high IQ player and a winner. He will make a big contribution and make everyone around him better.

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PyroCross  
Two months ago

Wow.

Delly doesn't need to be a stat stuffer for MU, and he doesn't need to be healthy for the next regular season (thankfully Shea Ili can relieve the starting role for stretches). He just needs to be ready to take a lead playmaking role in the playoffs with the experience and basketball IQ to close out championship games.

Given the money MU's paying, he'll be an NBL player from here and why would he ever leave MU? Huge long-term signing.

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LV  
Two months ago

Agree rjd, I'd statistically their contribution will be comparable, but I'm hoping Delly's presence and "one percenters" will mean his overall impact is a fraction more than McCarron. That's a realistic target but I don't think Delly will be in the MVP conversation or putting up 15 points a night.

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Krazy  
Two months ago

Fingers crossed there is another a year or two of NBA in him after a healthy Olympics.

Nothing worse than a league owned big city team always getting first pick of everything.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Only a complete crackhead would think Perth spent more than MU
Cotton was on more than a million dollars.

One team spent twice the cap and didn't win the title.

We know these things.

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Bolt  
Two months ago

I'd love a source on the Cotton salary 'fact’.

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LV  
Two months ago

SEM would've spent big.

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Loungefly  
Two months ago

Cotton was on more than a million dollars

Hahahahaha his new deal is 3 yrs 2 million so unless he is playing the third year for free how does that add up to over a million a year?.

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JB  
Two months ago

Hopefully he's healthy and able to contribute as expected. Obviously an upgrade on McCarron (who I like very much) in that scenario.
But there is not insignificant risk that injuries will plague him and he won’t be that great.
Good for United and the league in any case, as that will bring attention and interest from casuals.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Hahahahaha his new deal is 3 yrs 2 million so unless he is playing the third year for free how does that add up to over a million a year?.
It was massively front loaded due to the pay cuts.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Cotton was on more than a million dollars."

My understanding is that Cotton wasn't on a million dollars. He was on half of that. For salary cap purposes, his number was over a million dollars.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cotton on 600k last season equals 1.2 million to the cap.

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JB  
Two months ago

Are imports not allowed to be marquee players? That would have greatly reduced the impact on the cap?

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koberulz  
Two months ago

No, imports are not allowed to be marquee players.

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Tornado  
Two months ago

Whilst similar in age it appears to me that Mitch is in the midst of his prime as a basketballer where as Delly seems to be on a decline.

I doubt with Dellys concussion issues we will see that same defensive hustle we are used to, his career was almost over 6 months ago because of this.

My 2 cents...Mitch gets the nod just. Taking everything into account they are very similar but Mitch just has that little bit more explosiveness and athleticism.

For those suggesting Perth were the big spenders last season must be forgetting how much MU paid Landale on top of his release from OS. He and Cotton would cancel each other out & you can't tell me Mooney, Norton and Blanchfield were anywhere near what Hopson, Goulding, McCarron were on.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

For the last time, there was no release from his euro contract, the big money for a release is to the nba. Cotton by being an import took mast of the Perth cap, or he was heading to Europe. Perth supporters got stop thinking there players play for small change, they spent the most of all last season.

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Sebastian  
Two months ago

#464 Olympic selections would suggest otherwise

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

SEM would've spent big.

On who??

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Mitch Creek is on $500k+ a year, Broekhoff wouldn't have come cheap, Gliddon was in the last WC team, Sykes came from the EuroLeague, Moore is ex-NBA, Wetzell was previously signed with a team in Germany etc

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Your first three Australian players can be marquee, the total cost to the cap 750g. Add two good imports and the rest budget basement players and you don't go over the cap much if at all.

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Hopscotch 55  
Two months ago

To sum up... Perth may (I highlight may) have coughed up the most $ due to a higher income man outside the marquee setup, seeing them pay more luxury tax..

..but in terms of $ that actually hit the pockets of players, Melbourne paid more, by that metric, in total.

How about that?

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D2.0  
Two months ago

Incorrect.
You can have upto 4 Marquees, but each one over the first reduces your imports.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Well that's Perth’s choice, you still spent more than all. You can buy one Porsche or three holdens, it’s your choice, you want depth you don’t overpay your top guy.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

For all those writing Delly off, he is only 30.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Bottom line - Melbourne spent much smarter than Perth

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LV  
Two months ago

Zodiac spot on, plus Pineau had just signed a contract extension after finishing top 5 in NBL in Rebounds and blocked shots. That extension will kick in this year so perhaps previous deal not so much $$ but should be this coming season. Or do extensions with your same club sometimes result in additional $ immediately?

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Mitch Creek is on $500k+ a year, Broekhoff wouldn't have come cheap, Gliddon was in the last WC team, Sykes came from the EuroLeague, Moore is ex-NBA, Wetzell was previously signed with a team in Germany etc
Creek never opted out, he just took the pay cut. Wetzell signed in Europe only after signing with SEM, not before.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Creek never opted out, he just took the pay cut."

How do you know he didn't? There was a tweet from Olgun saying that several players re-negotiated their deal after it became permitted.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"Wetzell signed in Europe only after signing with SEM, not before."

From Wikipedia:

On August 16, 2020, Wetzell exercised the European out clause in his contract and was released by the Phoenix. He signed with Riesen Ludwigsburg of the German Basketball Bundesliga on August 19, but rejoined the Phoenix on October 14 after experiencing passport complications with his move to Europe.

So he signed with Phoenix before and after his Europe contract.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

He rejoined the Phoenix under his original contract.

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