Mat B
Two weeks ago

Boomers V USA

11:30 am EST Tuesday

We can expect a competitive USA team on the back of their loss to the team representing Nigeria.

Defensively, we need to contain the 3 and penetration.
It's highly unlikely that Durant will have 2 bad games in a row.
Don't think we can go under any high screens.
I'm.hoping that Green gets a lot of minutes as he, Matisse and Exum will be needed as long quick defenders will be a key against this athletic USA team.



Would be nice to see Reath get more time - and he and Baynes can get some low block action going.
Exum's attack on the rim against Argentina was a great sign that his confidence is up, looking for more of same.

What do others see as keys to the game? Granted it's a practice match and you don't want to show your full hand, but another win would be great for morale.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

This game and next we could see more of Giddey, Cooks, Reath and Green.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Exum
Mills
Ingles
Thybulle
Landale

Delly
Goulding
Green
Kay
Baynes

Sobey
Reath

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

BTW as much as I and all of us love Patty, I'd prefer he not run the point on this team.

Against Argentina there was an iso play where he dribbled into a bad shot and the entire offense was completely stagnant. Same thing happened a lot in the WC vs Spain.
I'd rather see Patty exclusively at the 2 and have Delly, Ingles or Exum running the point with lots of off ball movement.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

11:30 am EST Tuesday

It's actually on at 10am EST (and 8am WST).

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Sebastian  
Two weeks ago

#123 unlikely

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Cooks and Giddey are reserves for injuries, why would they get time ahead of any of the squad members.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

^ FACTS HAHAHAHHA

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Need Benny Simmons

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Like a poke in the eye with a burnt stick

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Senator11  
Two weeks ago

Anywhere to see box scores?

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

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Senator11  
Two weeks ago

Cheers Luuuc.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Live stream on Twitch

Link

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Baynes hurt.

Shit :(

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Ingles 3/3 from three in 3mins.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

No Baynes now. Ouch.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Better it happened now than at the actual Olympics.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Hopefully nothing too serious and Reath can make the most of the forced extra opportunity

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Boomers offensive sets still look non-existent.

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

Can we have some off ball movements and run the ball through hands please?

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Whatever happened to all the sets that the core ran so fluently in the World Cup and Rio?

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

LaVine with the big reach on Joe to cause the turnover: No call. Joe with the lightest tap in response that had zero impact on anything: USF.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

So you're saying there's home cooking outside of Perth Arena? Surely not!

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

It was a clear USF. Stop moaning.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Rebounding looks like a serious issue without Baynes.

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

rjd I'm hoping that gorg is keeping those sets for the tournament because our offensive structure here looks pretty bad so far

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Don't we look pretty good? Ingles looking way more aggressive than at the WC, where him passing everything really hurt us. Landale not stuffing the stat sheet but not getting hammered, either. Pretty much everyone who's been out there has done a few good things.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

We do, but in a pickup game kind of way. That's the concern.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Mills getting a lot of practice on his iso plays.

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twenty four  
Two weeks ago

Goorj going with the slowest unit we have against these guys is... interesting.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Need cooks

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Fine. Everyone except Sobey, who should never leave the bench.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

I'd prefer to see Giddey get a run and be exposed than Sobey get a run and get exposed.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Cooks as an extra big for sure.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Fair enough, Perthworld, but showing a ton of nice sets before it matters doesn't seem like a good idea. I like pickup for letting them feel each other out, too. Get more of a sense of a guy's instincts when he's freelancing than in rigid structure.

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

Giddey would get eaten alive. If we could make a high low entry pass we'd be progressing.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

J.white would be good in FIBA.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sobey is getting eaten alive, too, Bolt. What's the benefit of having him there if he can't gap-fill for two minutes? The benefit of having Giddey there if he couldn't get on court is obvious.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Exum struggles to initiate -> Mills iso -> Mills can't put it up and there's no passing option. I'm worried we will see a lot of this.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Getting pretty sloppy here

Exum struggles to initiate -> Mills iso -> Mills can't put it up and there's no passing option. I'm worried we will see a lot of this.

I share this concern

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

In yo face, Draymond

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

#187 true, and as I recall the same thing happened under Lemanis in warmups so it probably isn't a cause for concern - but then what would we talk about?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sobey looks scared to even be out there let alone shoot. What is the point of bringing him to Tokyo? Would of been a great experience for Giddey

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Baynes just knee on knee injury or something more concerning?

And yes, we look good but like we're playing half paced. Definitely huge improvement on last game.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Tell sobey to go home, it is bad. Big liability for the team.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"Sobey is getting eaten alive" are we watching the same game? Played like 1 minute, pretty tough to get any flow under that circumstance.
On the other hand, all of the Delly apologists never hold him accountable for his lack of...….well anything really. He's just on the court.
It’s amazing how the people held most accountable are those who barely play!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Surprised with no baynes goorj didn't let reath get more of a run, like last time he was good in his limited time. Our point play is a concern, as much as delly brings the intangibles, it’s a concern if he’s going to play 20-25 mins at the Olympics and basically be no threat offensively, this is why Thybulle is so valuable as his defence is so good you can afford for him to be a zero on offence. Conversely, however exum might not be as good of an option to run the show but is at least a driving threat and sobey looks out of his depth so far.

Offence looks stagnant and when there’s only 1 of mills or ingles on the offence gets really bogged down, Goulding will need to be out there at times just for sheer spacing. Hopefully Goorj is saving the more lemanis type sets but I think also without bogut we’re hindered in that regard as you could have delly not be out there and still essentially have a facilitator when there’d be him and ingles. I do like the more aggressive ingles however.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Delly is our only player able to initiate on offense.

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

The points on Sobey are valid, but if that's the case, why isn’t anyone banging on about Goulding? Immediate turnover on a straight line entry pass followed by leaving Johnson open on a corner three - of which he wasn’t within six feet. But wait, he hit an open three...

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

Concur on Delly also. He's a liability on O. Can’t shoot, something Sobey can - but agree, he’s rattled at present.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Cooks please, Reath more too.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

For all the talk of giddey not being ready, this is why people would rather him be there than sobey as at least a young guy gets that experience to be prepped for future wc and Olympics compared to that of a guy who will not only give us nothing at this stage but also for future.

Delly is concerning, while he does run the point well, idk if it's worth him playing 20+ mins if he’s gonna be a zero offensively, I think it’d be good to see how exum looks with the starters

Green looked nervous out there but what else to expect from a young guy who goorj didn’t play in game 1

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I trust Gorj's roster decisions more than a few dudes who coach social hoops and play div 5 social on Thursday nights. Let it unfold a little, stop being instant haters!

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Is Boomers Thybulle 5/5 from 3?

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Thybulle is a joy to watch on D.

Boomers running some plays now. Look good.

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

To be this close with Lillard hooping like that is ok.

Keep executing offensively.
Landale looking good but Should've taken green in the post rather than the kick out pass

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Anyone that actually played at any high level will tell you that it takes minutes on court to get into the flow of the game. With Delly, it's like playing 4 on 5 on offence. Sobey would need more than a minute not to make a mistake and get a flow. Remember, he is a backup insurance.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Part of the experience of guys like Thybulle, delly, kay, exum, green and baynes will be that they all provide the hard nosed basketball that we love but their offence will be limited at times so it'll be at times painful to watch but at others will be menaces defensively, on the boards etc

To the point about why doesn’t Goulding cop crap like sobey, that’s because we know what Goulding will do and his role etc whereas sobey appears to be the the third pg which setting up offence isn’t his strong suit so if he’s a 2 he’ll be expected to be more aggressive which he hasn’t been thus far and when with mills and ingles out there he’s hardly the guy you’d want to be the first option. Basically Goulding will shoot 3s but be poor defensively whereas sobey doesn’t really have a clear role, but that’s down to goorj ultimately as other then full court pressure, sobey appears to be confused/ hesitant on the offensive end and defensively he tries hard but when you have delly, exum, thybulle, green and ingles then it’s not enough to try hard on defence, I suspect goorj is giving him a run to mostly see how he’ll look in case of an exum injury.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

CG43!

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Goulding showing his worth now.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

CG43 to the NBA

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"why isn't anyone banging on about Goulding?"

aged well

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Goulding is the Aussie JJ Reddick

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

reath has been fantastic. S should play a lot more minutes

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

We'll see...

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

Now that was a better quarter.
Loved our aggression, back door movement.....and the 3 dropping.
We still look Culberson iso plays especially when everyone else is stagnant.
Stay aggressive Exum.

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BeeGee  
Two weeks ago

Does anyone know if the full replays are/will be on Kayo?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Not enough love for Kay, you need players that do the team stuff. He's as important as Landale.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Kay and sobey are big liabilities of this team.
What is the f**king point playing them? Would rather have Daniels and Giddey in the lineup

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Dat Goulding run.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Goulding can stay, but sobey and Kay please let someone else take their spots

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Anon says what's the point of having them on the team whilst Australia is up 5 on USA! Idiot

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Goulding fills a very important role on this team. A flat-out shooter who can create his own shot when necessary.

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

Nick Kay great agression

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Not enough love for Kay, you need players that do the team stuff.

He is unathletic and not on an NBA roster therefore a useless spud despite playing his role beautifully for us.

It's crazy how there are people on a hoops forum who evidently do not understand the sport of basketball.

Do some dunks, Kay, or go home.

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Sebastian  
Two weeks ago

Kay with a 5 min patch that makes #228 look like a bright spark

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

"Kay and sobey are big liabilities of this team."

Have you been watching Kay is this game?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Nick Kay is a great glue guy. He is not afraid of this level and stepped up as seen in the world cup. Reath impressive so far, great length. Boomers starting to run some plays, I think they can win this.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Are you serious re: Kay? People who don't want Kay and Delly there never been seriously involved in basketball. If you've ever played with or coached a guy like that you know why they're there.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

USA's strategy right now: give it to Durant.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Weird take re: Kay. He proved his worth at the last World Cup.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Bitter Jonah Bolden stan energy

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Regardless of what happens with the result, there's been a fair bit to like about this game for the Boomers

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

USA trying to get the switch so Thybulle is switched off Durant, getting Kay instead. Kay denies. (luckily)

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

The bloke bagging Kay after I rapped him, lmao, he's better than Landale. Go back to calling for Adel to be in the team.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Really liking Thybulle, he's added so much to this team.

Kay and Goulding proving they can play useful roles, just like they did in 2019

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Musk  
Two weeks ago

For all the doom and gloom (it's what we sports fan do) by no means should we be disappointed in this performance

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Awful non-call by the refereeing crew there on that out of bounds by Team USA.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

There's a strong argument for Kay being our best 4 man. He's closing out this game now at the 5.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Thybulle swatting Durant was the sort of play we've never been able to make. We're gonna hang on here.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Goodbye Sobey

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Aussie Aussie Aussie!

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Musk  
Two weeks ago

US bout to be 0-2, great job by our boys

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

We did it guys!

USA 83-91 AUS.

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Musk  
Two weeks ago

On the US side of things you've gotta be scratching your head over Kevin love not getting on.

For us, well done, hopefully baynes is ok

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

USA's problem is that they don't have enough NBA players

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Ben  
Two weeks ago

Exhibition, but still. Wow.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Is Australia the first team in the proffesional era to beat the USA twice?

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Sebastian  
Two weeks ago

#251 Sobey isn't going anywhere

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KWhite_Rulz  
Two weeks ago

Ben who????

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LV  
Two weeks ago

We're on a 2 game winning streak against the USA

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Musk  
Two weeks ago

God that Kevin love selection looks bad for them, pop played two select guys over him, any word on baynes?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Cooks did well in limited time I thought and reath again as well.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

This was a surprising win, especially considering how bad we looked early on.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Our D did very well other than the few durant getting open at times but he's an all time great for a reason, good sign that our offence not only held up but went on a run without mills.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Yep, the D was seriously high level for much of that game. Loved it.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Reath is good. Great size, good athleticism, good hands with a soft touch and can even hit the 3.

He's going to dominate the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Patty is the GOAT. I know that national pride isn't a defining feature of good humans, but caring that much about something other than yourself is. What a legend.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Yeah I think people can stop talking shit about Nick Kay and Chris Goulding being on the team now. Kay played his role to literal perfection. We saw signs of sme of the great offense we saw n 16 and 19. Still work to do but this win is a fantastic sign moving forward.

I think it's time for Delly to take to the bench to be honest, or at least for Exum to see more minutes. Delly was okay defensively and kept the ball moving but he's a complete zero sum offensive player. Sobey looked a bit rattled but once again, not seeing the minutes. I doubt he sees minutes in the actual Olympics at this rate.

I am hearing Cooks might be in the team over Green now. Is there any legitimacy to thart?

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Shano76  
Two weeks ago

I love Patty Mills! What a star.
Also, Nick Kay- for someone not that athletically he's just a smart, strong, skilful team orientated player who busts his arse every game. Gun.

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RobT  
Two weeks ago

"USA's problem is that they don't have enough NBA players".

Absolute classic Luuuc.

Maybe next WC's and Olympics, they'll take yanks who have played in the NBL. They may even try to naturalise some of our own and play them too, a la Nigeria.

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Sebastian  
Two weeks ago

Musk there is a chance Love is carrying an injury. I don't think he played against Nigeria either

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Perth fan.  
Two weeks ago

Patty still our best player at nearly 33.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

@ME, I thought it was cooks, giddey and motum were only able to make the side in case of injury or a pull out (by the player like bolden)

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Patty is the GOAT. I know that national pride isn't a defining feature of good humans, but caring that much about something other than yourself is. What a legend.

He seems to go to a level beyond beast mode when playing for Australia. It's amazing.

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Perth fan.  
Two weeks ago

Exhibition game yes but a huge confidence boost nonetheless.

Kay won't make any NBA rosters but his game is perfectly suited to fiba level.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Maybe next WC's and Olympics, they'll take yanks who have played in the NBL. They may even try to naturalise some of our own and play them too, a la Nigeria.

Haha, yeah, word is that USA have already lodged their application to de-naturalise Bryce Cotton

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

It's always good to win but let’s not forget that USA have several handy players to come into that team once NBA finals are done

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RobT  
Two weeks ago

"@ME, I thought it was cooks, giddey and motum were only able to make the side in case of injury or a pull out (by the player like bolden)"

Possibly at the O's, but we're just in "Exhibition" game-mode atm.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

The thing that impresses me is that it is a night and day contrast to the way we played against Argentina. I think these days you can take wins against the USA, as great as they are, with something of a grain of salt. But the team looked switched on, players played their roles, we shot pretty well, and we seemed to have the nerve to really go for the win. All of this without our best big man. A lot of reason for optimism.

And honestly, there's a place for Cooks on this team. if that means Green misses out, so be it. We could really do with his defensive mobility. We can talk about blooding for the future all we want but if we're serious about a medal this year we need every possible upside we can get, and there's nothing Green provides that Thybulle doesnt provide more of.

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twenty four  
Two weeks ago

Kay looked bad against ARG (sluggish, slow, even more ground bound than usual) but was back to that WC level today. Quite handy.

I seriously think Delly might be past it though. Not sure he really 'runs the point well' anymore. He brings the ball up and passes it. That's about it. Exum can do that and also adds some driving ability (although today he struggled against the bigger D) and length defensively. I'm not saying bury him completely, but line ups with him, Ingles and two bigs haven't seemed to work.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

It's his second game back from a long lay off to be fair but if the signs arent looking better soon I'd be looking at cutting his minutes.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

@RobT why would BA announced the 12 in first place with the three replacement players? If there's any truth to what ME is saying it’s a bonehead move, Should’ve just announced the 15 and cut three right before Tokyo.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

I think they have to give a 12 for the IOC before games. For me though, Cooks length at that four spot could be crucial and Green doesnt necessarily provide anything we don't already have.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Considering goorj himself I think has been on record about the importance of getting the young guys having them be around the team to prep them for future, one would have to think that considering giddey has already not been selected and green has taken that young player spot, if cooks does get in it would likely be for sobey as there's already delly and exum at the point, with mills and ingles spending time at the one 1 also at moments. And considering at the wc that’s what we did when delly wasn’t out there, I’d presume we’d do the same. Plus sobey isn’t getting wing minutes over Goulding, Thybulle or Ingles and throw in patty playing the 2, I assume if cooks does get in it will be for sobey as he’ll likely play the 4 and considering our current 4’s are landale and kay it’d be good to have a more mobile one out there. Not to mention potential injury scares from our bugs and then we’d be extremely thin at our frontline. If cooks does go in hopefully it’ll be for sobey, that way we aren’t relying on heavy minutes from Thybulle and Ingles to play the 4 at moments. It’s not that sobey can’t play it’s just I struggle to see his fit in the team whereas cooks can legitimately play the four in spots.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Goulding in the 3rd really saved us along with our d

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Dugless  
Two weeks ago

Anyone have any updates on Baynes?
Could be a big out

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Senator11  
Two weeks ago

I agree with Sobey over Cooks being a mistake. Cooks can provide more valuable minutes than what Sobey can.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

We all hold the NBA as being the best league in the world, some of that is based off the old 90s NBA where stars played against real defence and it was a highly physical form of game. The legends like MJ would make the current NBA a farce.

What we are seeing with the modern NBA , with their warped gameplay that is more globetrotters vs washington wizards highlight reel , that frankly they are no longer guaranteed a gold medal. They dont play a lot of defence so the minute you move into FIBA rules based play the whole picture changes.

They have the best players perhaps but NBA ratings steadily in decline and certainly when I watch the odd game its just lacks intensity we see in other league and can be frankly boring. You have players regularly getting 40-50 points they just wouldn't get in other quality leagues.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

"Anyone have any updates on Baynes?
Could be a big out"

No official update but he was on the bench with ice with a smile in the footage and seemed to walk a bit under his own power. I imagine he will miss tomorrow's game and then front up Saturday. I think just a really bad knee collission.

"What we are seeing with the modern NBA , with their warped gameplay that is more globetrotters vs washington wizards highlight reel , that frankly they are no longer guaranteed a gold medal. They dont play a lot of defence so the minute you move into FIBA rules based play the whole picture changes.
"

Agree with this. I get bored watching the NBA. the whole league and it's ruling, court dimensions, and everything about it is catered to letting big athletes dunk as much as possible. It's a showcase and rarely does it look much like traditional basketball. As soon as you puyt them on a FIBA court with traditional rules they get caught out. Team USA is a thousand times more talented than we are but we play better FIBA style basketball and I think that is going to ring true for a couple of teams at the Olympics.

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Tricks  
Two weeks ago

I have no doubt that USA will end up winning the gold medal. These exhibition games are exactly what they need to adjust. These games aren't about the end score for the USA.

Regardless, they need to stop playing and relying on so much iso ball. Leave that to the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

'Kay looked bad against ARG '

when you mean to type good but accidentally type bad instead oops

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Gus3232  
Two weeks ago

It is so bloody cool to think that my national team is actually capable of beating the mighty USA at any given time. 18 year old me in 1990 watching us choke away a lead against the USA at the World Champs thought that would be our only chance. We (and the world) have certainly come a long way since those days.

It is nice too to see all of us here (even some of the moronic anons) band together to support our Boomers. Top stuff!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Kay had not played in six weeks, got get the rust out.

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Matisse Thybulle was again very impressive. Spectacular defense and continuing his shooting form. Are we going to see more of Thybulle at the 4?

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

We look so good offensively when we're cutting, driving, dishing.
Iso plays with stagnant offense are a concern.

Reath looked good on both ends.

Dellys shot looks off but his D and passing is excellent.

Exum's aggression again was very good. I don't mind that Green blocked one of his drives, every other attack in the rim was a score or second chance score.

Goulding did exactly what he needs to.

Thybull's defence again was outstanding and his shot was extremely valuable.



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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Goulding with 11 points and a team high +13 in under 10 minutes. This is what a streaky shooter can bring to the table.

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Mat B  
Two weeks ago

rjd Thybulle shows he can definitely play the 4. His block on Durant good example
I think where he plays will depend on who opposition teams have on the court as he's so versatile defensively.

Agree 're Goulding

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

" Anon says what's the point of having them on the team whilst Australia is up 5 on USA! Idiot "

Mills, thybulle and jingles won the match for us . You dumb ass
Kay and sobey still suck.

Goulding can shoot but can't defend. Would rather have josh green playing more minutes

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago


Dellavedova/Exum
Mills/Goulding/Green or Sobey
Ingles/Thybulle
Landale/Kay/Cooks
Baynes/Reath

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Imagine cotton too.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Mills, thybulle and jingles won the match for us . You dumb ass
Kay and sobey still suck.

Goulding can shoot but can't defend. Would rather have josh green playing more minutes




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Podcast: Santamaria & Bogut post-game thoughts
Link

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

who can replace mills in 3-4 years time when he retires?

We can cover everyone else's spot.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

#319 get a clue douche

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Bolt  
Two weeks ago

Ustase boy in da house!!!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

It's an exhibition game people...coaches don't want to get their players hurt and I'm sure they're not going to show all their cards regarding plays during these games. Relax and just enjoy the games vs over-reading the games. When it's time to suit up for the actual Olympics - then you can really start to bagging on them.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

#319 oh my. If you are trolling you are doing well or you are just a straight out f..kwit

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rjd  
Two weeks ago

Santamaria and Bogut discuss the game on "The Huddle". Excellents points made. Listen.

Find the links to Spotify or Apple here:
https://twitter.com/NBL/status/1414784853594152961?s=19

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Young Gun  
Two weeks ago

" We look so good offensively when we're cutting, driving, dishing."

I wish all of Basketball was like this... I hate most iso ball

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ME  
Two weeks ago

I don't think it's worth engaging the Kay haters. Kay is a well established and pretty consistent international player now. He was huge at the world cup, especially in the semi final against Spain, and he was huge again for us today. Is the problem that his lay ups aren't throw down jams? Does he not look sexy enough? Whatever the issue, they exist solely in the brains of a few anonymous posters and not those of basketball coaches, basketball players, or anyone with an operating brain.

"Goulding can shoot but can't defend. Would rather have josh green playing more minutes"


Successful coaches with over 20 years of professional experience disagree with you. But I suppose you know more, from the vantage point of your armchair of infinite wisdom.

"It's an exhibition game people...coaches don't want to get their players hurt and I'm sure they're not going to show all their cards regarding plays during these games. Relax and just enjoy the games vs over-reading the games. When it's time to suit up for the actual Olympics - then you can really start to bagging on them."

A win against, easily, the most talented team on the planet isn't something to just shrug off. It means we're going to be a team to reckon with at the Olympics. But more than that, what impressed me is seeing players play their roles, make shots, make the right plays, and play smart. If we played the same way yet lost I would still have been pretty high on what I saw from the team, especially given how much they've improved since the Argentina game. But let's face it, USA would have had motivation internally to win that game. They might be working through things but they were unable to get it done. That's credit to the Boomers.

"You dumb ass
Kay and sobey still suck."

Your views on Kay have been entirely discredited and you're fighting an uphill battle against evidence, logic and reason to even try to keep that going.

As for Sobey, you might have some grounds there. Sobey hasn't looked particularly useful in any of the games yet. If the team is still high on him I'd give him the floor tomorrow to do whatever he likes for a good 20 minutes against the Nigerians. If he cant make something happen, I'd be moving him on for Giddey or Cooks seeing as we need length and athleticism at the 4.

I for one celebrated Sobey finding his way into the team. It was a great story of determination, willpower and hardwork. But the rubber is starting to meet the road now, and if he keeps looking like a deer in the headlights and someone you cant trust out there, then the dream may have to end for Nathan Sobey.



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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I think Sobey stays, Cook defensively is overrated and yes he can dunk it, it should not be the top priority on team selections. Again Sobey is a back up guard.
Goulding has been a better than average defender ever since vickerman coached him and today was good defensively.
Great all round performance today, we should be at least top two of our group.

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twenty four  
Two weeks ago

"when you mean to type good but accidentally type bad instead oops"

Nah. He somehow managed to look more agile against the US than he did against Luis Scola.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

If cooks shines tomorrow against athletic bigs, it's over for Sobey.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

"Great all round performance today, we should be at least top two of our group"

We need to be the top team in our group or the best placed second team in the tournament to miss a Spain/USA or France type booby prize in the quarterfinals. I think that's entirely within us to do that.

As for Nigeria tomorrow, I agree with Bogut's sentiment. Rest the main guys. Give them very little to see in person. Give the bench all the runs you can give them. Maybe looking at Cooks asw a possibility for nudging himself into the team. See what Green can give you. I'd much rather lose by 20 tomorrow, show Nigeria little, and beat them at the Olympics, than win by 20 tomorrow, risk injury to our main guys, and show them exactly how we roll in person. Yes, scouting tapes are a thing, but it's different actually playing someone and getting a feel for them.

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Cram  
Two weeks ago

I was one of the people who questioned Kay in the 2019 WC team, but will never again question his value to the team.

To this anon:

"We all hold the NBA as being the best league in the world, some of that is based off the old 90s NBA where stars played against real defence and it was a highly physical form of game. The legends like MJ would make the current NBA a farce.

What we are seeing with the modern NBA , with their warped gameplay that is more globetrotters vs washington wizards highlight reel , that frankly they are no longer guaranteed a gold medal. They dont play a lot of defence so the minute you move into FIBA rules based play the whole picture changes.

They have the best players perhaps but NBA ratings steadily in decline and certainly when I watch the odd game its just lacks intensity we see in other league and can be frankly boring. You have players regularly getting 40-50 points they just wouldn't get in other quality leagues."

What a load of crap. Its good that you made this observation from the "odd game" you watch too by the way.

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Senator11  
Two weeks ago

It's fair to be excited about a Boomers win vs the USA in an international friendly, but ppl pretty much bagging the NBA now is hilarious. SMH.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Australia second favourite in Olympics now. $1.57 to medal.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

#354 no it isnt

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sobey can't score or defend and you can swap,em out before olympics.
That would have been told to them in camp.

Motum gone home. Only cooks n Giddey reserve.

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Zodiac  
Two weeks ago

Sobey and Exum don't look up to this level. Not sure why Goorj is running Sobey at the point he's a terrible PG. All those idiots who didn't understand why I said Goulding was a lock for selection now understand why. Probably the same clowns bagging a proven big game player in Nick Kay. Delly looks just about shot though.

Overall a very good win against the USA but you could tell both teams were holding a fair bit back, our offence at times looked quite ordinary until Goulding broke the game open. Fantastic defence though.

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Woody  
Two weeks ago

Delly hasn't been able to shoot for years now. No idea why he changed his shooting mechanics to basically chest pass his 3 ball. Still a good game manager but you can’t play him for long stretches when he offer literally 0 scoring output. Ingles plays a lot of 1 for Utah he’s probably the best option to play at the point.

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BCF  
Two weeks ago

Exum is silk and definitely at the level. There are two players in the squad that couldn't play NBA, Sobey and Kay. Kay is a strong and solid European/FIBA four .So he's an in. If Cotton was available, Sobey would be out. May as well give Giddey a crack, after all he'll be our starting PG for the next 12 years.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Exum has been fine.

Sobey has been the only downer in this squad.

Green I'm sure will see tomorrow more.


Sobey, Reath, Goulding, green, cooks will get more minutes, maybe Giddey too.

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Hoopie  
Two weeks ago

It was an excellent Boomers result and I thought they deserved it.

I now expect the media to start hyper-ventilating and talking up our chances so much that not medaling - even coming 4th - is considered a failure by many, as has happened in the past.

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Manly Man  
Two weeks ago

has Gorj spoken a word about the Nigeria game?
if he tries to win it, the hype will be even more ... dangerous road

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I thinks it clear he wants to give the other guys more minutes

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Yep, winning, ultra dangerous!!!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

If Cotton was available, Sobey would be out.

Not at the expense of Thybulle.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

We play nigeria in pool play, he ain't showing everything tomorrow.

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KET  
Two weeks ago

Australia aren't allowed Thybulle and Cotton in that scenario.

They’d be forced to choose one or the other.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Thybulle apparently gained citizenship before the age of 16 so doesn't take up the one naturalised slot. It was discussed in the Argentina game thread.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Can only have one because we are not Africa region.

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koberulz  
Two weeks ago

Whatever happened to all the sets that the core ran so fluently in the World Cup and Rio?
We sacked the coach so that Ben Simmons would play.


Thybulle apparently gained citizenship before the age of 16 so doesn't take up the one naturalised slot. It was discussed in the Argentina game thread.
People who don't know were making their best guess. People who do know (ie actual Boomers coaching staff, BA, etc) have repeatedly said they can't have both.

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

Okay.

Can only have one because we are not Africa region.

Haha, nice.

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Thybulle is the perfect fit for this team. And while Cotton could certainly help if I was choosing between the two, it would be Thybulle all day.

Tomorrow will be interesting. I don't see us playing our main guys big minutes. If we're smart we show Nigeria nothing in person. Use the game to see whether it's time to give Sobey the flick or show him more faith, and if we might be better served by having another big (cooks) or another ball handler (Giddey) on the team.

A lot of people critical of a lot of players on the team but the only guy who I really question right now is up to it is Sobey. They need to make a call on him after the next game in my opinion.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

One thing is for sure going forward
We have a giant problem in 24 olympics or just after at the 2 spot.

You can run off 2 to 4 quality 1-3-4-5s for the boomers but no 2s like mills(who will be 35-36y.o in 24 olympics) and if we go with Thybulle, cotton(31-32y.o) won't be available either.


Lots of guys that can play the 2 but can’t create own shot, dribble or shoot at the % like patty.

These are the young guys that could play at the 2 in a few years.
D.o.b / height / age in paris 24
Thybulle 1997 6’5 26-27
Vasljevic 1997 6’2 26-27
Green 2000 6’5 23-24
King 2002 6’5 21-22
Armstrong 2002 6’5 21-22
Daniels 2003 6’6 20-21
Proctor 2004 6’4 19-20

Who do you think will be the next sgs after/during Paris?
I see a few of the above as the future 3s, not 2s like Thybulle, green, Daniels

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ME  
Two weeks ago

Mills has another go-around in him I think. He wont be the main guy on the next Boomers team, but I think he'll be there, probably ending off his playing days in one of the more financial NBL team colours. Probably good for 15-20 minutes per night at the 2024 Olympics.

I actually think Joe will do the same too. We would be in a pretty poor situation at pg though if we need to rely on Delly to also do the same.

But either way, Vasiljevic seems to me like a likely candidate. His ceiling is beyond the NBL so look to him to make moves up in Europe at some point.

As for anyone else, there's always some new kid coming through that is unheard of one minute, then the next big thing the next. I don't see too many glaring holes developing for the next generation of Boomers.

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Perth fan.  
Two weeks ago

For guards in general I think we are looking strong moving forward..
Giddey 2002
Daniels 2003
Proctor 2004
Green 2000
Ķing 2002.

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

I'm super high on Daniels and proctor going forward. Different players for sure but both look really really good on the eye test, proctor especially. Daniels defence can honestly be as good as thybulles if he continues progressing at the rate he is and proctor seems like a class shot creator that in one or two olympics time will become very valuable. Both have a ways to go with stuff like pick and roll reads and shooting percentages but no ones perfect. Boomers looking good for the future, interested to see where it goes!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Ingles at 37, I don't think so.
No one born before 92 is making 24 olympics bar mills who will have the fitness but not the same impact.
No Delly, ingles, Sobey, Goulding, Broekhoff, Baynes all born 90’ or before 34-38y.o


Atm, you would assume the young extended list is


88 6'0 P.Mills CG
92 6’0 B.Cotton CG*
92 6’2 M.Mccarron CG
97 6’3 D.Vasljevic SG
92 6’5 M.Creek SF
94 6’5 S.Dech SG
97 6’5 M.Thybulle G/F*
98 6’5 W.Mcdowell-White PG
00 6’5 J.Green G/F
02 6’5 M.King SG
95 6’6 D.Exum PG
03 6’6 D.Daniels CG
95 6’8 X.Cooks CF
96 6’8 J.Mcveigh CF
97 6’8 J.White CF
01 6’8 L.Travers CF
02 6’8 J.Giddey PG
93 6’9 N.Kay PF
96 6’10 B.Simmons PG/PF
96 6’10 J.Bolden PF
97 6’10 J.Hunter C
98 6’10 W.Magnay PF/C
95 6’11 J.Landale PF/C
96 6’11 D.Reath PF/C
98 6’11 I.Humphries PF/C
00 6’11 M.Maker PF
00 7’0 S.Froling C
97 7’1 T.Maker PF/C

I’m sure I’ve missed a few guys but it’s clear perimeter shooting is a problem.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

I'll also add the nz list is very impressive also. Post 92’ born.

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proud  
Two weeks ago

I'm proud of you posters in here, we beat United States of America in a game of basketball for the second time in a row mind you and yet not poster is suggesting that this is the best Boomers squad ever, quite the contrary in fact and I think that's great as we like the squad itself aren't getting ahead of ourselves and we know there is so much hard work to be done, lucky bounces and bad refereeing decisions to come before we know how good this current side can be.

Those bagging Sobey and suggesting that we also need a play maker when Delly is off the court are really making a case for Giddey and I really hope that he gets some minutes soon and we can see what he can do... I remember back to when Baynes really came to the fore as a national squad member and it felt like we didn't know just how good he was and then he was our go to big man in the post, and he has been with the Australian side since 2010 so it makes me wonder if Giddey could impress so such an extent also against real opposition (instead of training camp) and be selected on the back of one or two performances

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Anonymous  
Last week

If anyone has been paying attention to the boomers on social media, cooks was spotted wearing a jersey on Thybulle's Instagram story. Is this just a case of the replacement players getting jersey’s so in case of an injury they’re good to go right away or has there been a replacement/injury kept on the down low. I also ask as the Boomers Instagram showed the original 12 players that were selected are getting their own cards, so is this just being safe and the replacement guys get a jersey or has something happened to cause a change.

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Anonymous  
Last week

It's the same 12, cooks n giddey just reserves. Giddey leaves for draft, cooks goes home.

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